Guild Wars 2

shaquinna.2869:

Cyninja.2954:

Tspatula.9086:

So sad, many of you have absolutely no idea, or perhaps just don’t want to admit the reality of what I am talking about. That’s fine, I have no problem getting through the content full Zerk, but the sad truth is that it doesn’t matter if you run glass cannon or tank, the spamming of hitpoint sink mobs with excessive cc and condis just doesn’t equal engaging gameplay for me , and a lot of other people. So please continue to tell me it’s a LTP issue, when in reality is it’s a game design issue, one where Anet took a very lazy path….

You’ve continuously failed to provide a counterargument to the suggestions people have been providing.

- bring stability
- bring condition cleanse
- learn what to dodge
- use class provided mechanics to counter cc (reflects, blurr, distortion, teleports, etc.)

These skills are more than enough to get you through ANY HoT content no matter if solo or full zerg. Some classes have it easier, yes, but every class can cope and manage the content. (notice how I didn’t mention toughness, since it’s basically useless in open world content. Also a l2p issue if you did not know)

This is a clear learn to play issue if others can manage but you can’t.

Is this fun to you? Maybe not, but that doesn’t mean it’s not doable or unbalanced. It simply means you do not enjoy this type of challenge.

Without actually going into this discussion (I personally have avoided Maguuma, been busy with other stuff), I think people are not getting what he is saying. he never said he can’t, he said it’s not fun to do so.

With everything I read sofar I think the part I bolded in his previous comment is the part that bothers him:

That’s fine, I have no problem getting through the content full Zerk, but the sad truth is that it doesn’t matter if you run glass cannon or tank, the spamming of hitpoint sink mobs with excessive cc and condis just doesn’t equal engaging gameplay for me

No read above, he said there is no build out there that can deal with hard and soft CC.

Espurtzzzzz

MirrorOfNature.4279:

KraunK.2319:

Is it possible to maintain two games in one? I’m playing this game since beta and with the release of HoT it’s became to me impossible to play everything at medium-high competitive levels. Even if I have 4 years experience in my backpack, it’s almost impossible to play on equal fights.. Gw2 Core builds have totally different mechanics and are ridiculous underpowered compared to Gw2 HoT. I don’t really get the point why I shouldn’t be offended by such thing. Do you (arenanet) have this in account for people not interested in buy the expansion?

You made the choice of not buying HoT, why the hell are you now -offended-? Do you even realise how redicilous that sound?
If you want to stay competitive in sPvP, buy the expansion, get the new specs and stop your whining.
Every expansion for every MMO ever made some areas of their respective games hard to keep competitive if you haven’t bought their expansion, so… deal-with-it!

Actually a net stated that elite specs are not supposed to be an upgrade so buying the expac to stay competitive would be a complete lie, not to mention a waste of money on a dying game.

HipposWild.7185:

I don’t get why elite specs aren’t usable in spvp for free accounts. Esports are typically f2p if you want spvp to go esports you need it to be f2p. Right now it is pay then exploit to win. Who is going to keep playing that?

But they want more HoT sale monies to fuel their failed 200k tournaments

this is what the title reminded me of xD

cranos.5913:

kitten , that’s quite a bit of hostility. Personally I’m a pretty decent player, but I can understand that the sheer amount of CC in HOT maps can get extremely annoying… Especially with the lack of WP meaning you have to traverse half the map. Maybe it’s just me being lazy, I’ve never been big on open world content in general. I wouldn’t call many of the new mobs fun tho, wether it’s endless evades/invulns, stealthing or indeed the amount of CC.

Yeah dont get me wrong, its most likely extremely annoying and probably unnecessary. However, I dont like him sayings its too hard and especially saying that there is no build out there to counter this. I remember how annoying orr was if i just wanted to travel through it, however, if i was to specifically design my build to counter soft and hard CC the content would not be too difficult and it is also entirely possible.

Problem with this sadly is that you could lock down the bosses by damaging them to 49% and leaving them. :/

Also to be honest it might not turn out that much more skillfull for both teams to just go ham on the boss when the encounter arises.

Fuzzion.2504:

A dev i spoke to said they were fixing old bugs of the wvw maps and that we should wait for the mid-late of next year.

I hope that means we will get back orbs

Well to get the orbs back they would need to be able to prevent fly hackers which I honestly don’t see them bothering with.

Floplag.4032:

Zetsumei.4975:

Floplag.4032:

i appreciate not wanting to give secrets… but how else do we build the class of those who know dont help others who are interested?
im with a good guild, but the current meta leads in other directions.. im trying to break into that but havent quite got it right.
ive watched a lot of streams.. most are doing sPvP.. ive seen very few in WvW or GvG that are “known” to look to for advise.
Its nice to know there is a way… but it would be better to see some details Thanks for at least confirming my thoughts

If youre serious about your guild it will be better for the long run if you learn to theorycraft for yourself. Too many players these days just look to copy and paste off of metabattle.com. From my experience unlike in spvp, serious gvg guilds atleast back in the day wouldnt go round giving out their builds, it is a weapon the theorycrafters spent hours designing to give their guild a real advantage on the field.

Make a build regardless of how crappy, test it and reiterate. Learn every single minute detail of this game’s combat system and the mechanics of your class. Gain the trust of your guild and assert yourself so that they listen and go along with your testing because with a 20man group testing builds solo wont give you any meaningful indication of how good it is. Once youre happy with the build start teaching the others using your class how to use the build in the optimum way, train them and then perfect both the optimum playstyle and build from there.

Honestly the game mode is as good as dead now so i almost feel bad for people newly arriving at this game to go on a journey when it comes to zergbusting. Or you could screw the long run and just wait till someone posts a dull outdated build on metabattle and play it in a mediocre way.

which i have been doing… but asking for ideas is never a bad thing right?
I’ve been trying a few things and am looking for ideas to see if im on the right track etc… since meta battle doesnt really have anything relevant.

Yeah dont get me wrong, asking the right questions is good but dont blame him for not wanting to giving out all his ideas away, youre his competition after all

Floplag.4032:

i appreciate not wanting to give secrets… but how else do we build the class of those who know dont help others who are interested?
im with a good guild, but the current meta leads in other directions.. im trying to break into that but havent quite got it right.
ive watched a lot of streams.. most are doing sPvP.. ive seen very few in WvW or GvG that are “known” to look to for advise.
Its nice to know there is a way… but it would be better to see some details Thanks for at least confirming my thoughts

If youre serious about your guild it will be better for the long run if you learn to theorycraft for yourself. Too many players these days just look to copy and paste off of metabattle.com. From my experience unlike in spvp, serious gvg guilds atleast back in the day wouldnt go round giving out their builds, it is a weapon the theorycrafters spent hours designing to give their guild a real advantage on the field.

Make a build regardless of how crappy, test it and reiterate. Learn every single minute detail of this game’s combat system and the mechanics of your class. Gain the trust of your guild and assert yourself so that they listen and go along with your testing because with a 20man group testing builds solo wont give you any meaningful indication of how good it is. Once youre happy with the build start teaching the others using your class how to use the build in the optimum way, train them and then perfect both the optimum playstyle and build from there.

Honestly the game mode is as good as dead now so i almost feel bad for people newly arriving at this game to go on a journey when it comes to zergbusting. Or you could screw the long run and just wait till someone posts a dull outdated build on metabattle and play it in a mediocre way.

BrotherBelial.3094:

Also, ANet don’t like people sharing accounts. Its been in the EULA since GW1.

you must be fun at parties

dank.3680:

Random Weird Guy.3528:

RonDonJonVanDam.1289:

Power builds are dead because of the abundance of “block block immune evade block invulnerable block chill block”.

You do realise most of the stuff you just listed also affects condi builds right?

Not the same since power builds generally rely on big hitters and cc chains where condi builds can just spam constantly and don’t really rely much on damage cooldowns.

Thats.. not true at all. This is like saying power builds can spam constantly because of the existance of an auto-attack and complaining that i dont have aegis one a 1sec cd to block every auto.

SlayerSixx.5763:

Tibia is literally a text based game that’s as old as some of us here.

LOL seriously? wow..

TheOneWhoSighs.7513:

Oh god, GW2 is beating Black Desert for viewers.

GG Black Desert devs, you sux.

Well I guess itll be a different story when it launches in eu/na :P

Agemnon.4608:

Speaking of Super Smash Bros. Brawl is Little Mac getting introduced? He’d be overpowered like nobody’s business because he beat Mike Tyson. Even Solid Snake feels OP enough canon-wise compared to the others.

Yeah hasnt smash 4 been out for a while now? He’s debuting in there, they balanced it by making him weak in aerial combat and a beast on the ground.

Wetpaw.3487:

I have enjoyed HoT, mostly. Some aspects that cause me concern would be…

Adventures-No fun for me, and pretty much forced into them for mastery points. As soon as I got my bronze & silver (a few I couldn’t even get close to silver) I won’t be back for them.

WvW-I’m baffled that this game mode takes a backseat to garbage like esports in a mmo? Happy to hear all the bad things coming out of spvp/leagues, I can only hope that continues.

Ley-line sparks & Auric Dust-How these items are not %100 drop for one per chest is beyond me. Once I have farmed these out It’s pretty safe to say I won’t be setting foot in these maps for a very long time.

They spent 200k on a tournament as the prize pool and one of the teams ragequit when the score was 72-0 because of #balance, xD such esports.

HoT money being put to good use right there.

Cant forget this gem

Lol at all the people who havent played this game in a shunned game-mode or on a shunned class long enough to know what anet is like. Dont make me laugh xD “major overhaul” i thought anet managed to screw over all game modes a little with the expac to show all players their true colours but people still believe this PR crap.

The things coming to wvw were coded months if not years ago – how do i know? because it was a one-off event. The players asked for them to turn PPK back on permanently but were simply ignored. None of whats coming took major time to implement, its plain and simple they missed deadlines and are milking the hype train because people still believe their empty words.

It is already over for wvw, the game mode will not recover in its current state anet missed their chance. People denying this need to look up videos of their current tier in wvw from 2 years ago to remind themselves of what it used to look like.

Was only a matter of time, they removed the orbs largely because they couldnt deal with the hackers. Would be hilarious if this causes them to remove the oasis event because they would rather do that than deal with the hackers. Funny thing is they would get away with it because we all hate the oasis event, was only a way for them to rake in extra HoT cash (to throw at their failed esports event).

Has there been an announcement about the alpine map? havent been around

Anyway what theyre most likely going to do is reform the alpine so that it is more square-shaped and fits a system that heavily favours holding your side of the corner like eotm, EB and the desert one. You can see they were already trying this when they moved the waypoints from bay and hills to the spawn towers, that was the whole idea. However, they saw that the layout of the map just didnt work with this probably due to the overall rectangular shape aswell, which is most likely why they took it out altogether for the time being.

What they probably want to do is reformat the alpine and bring it back so you have EB, eotm map, desert and alpine. They couldnt do this previously because whoever ends up with the original alpine map as their home border would have the advantage because its much easier to hold the entire map whereas the new maps push you to only be able to hold your corner.

In other words, dont get all excited when they announce the return of the alpine border because the only resemblance will be the theme and it will probably play out completely differently.

Chicho Gosho.6507:

Zetsumei.4975:

Chicho Gosho.6507:

I hope you get banned.

P.S. Yeti or w/e his name is.

lol? theres a difference between exploiting for reward and exploiting to send a message

P.S im guessing you dont want the pro teams doing the same thing banned

Fix the system, ban the cheaters. Why should we care if its a pro or not?

Well looking at your post history it seems we’re on the same page that everyone should be dealt with equally so my bad. But anyway my point is you want threads like these because its the only way to force anet to deal with it rather than delete the thread and bury the problem.

Chicho Gosho.6507:

I hope you get banned.

P.S. Yeti or w/e his name is.

lol? theres a difference between exploiting for reward and exploiting to send a message

P.S im guessing you dont want the pro teams doing the same thing banned

i guess this was their answer to story mode giving more gold than exploration xD

Kuellet.2710:

work Anet! work!!

Unfortunately to them that reads “delete threads” not “fix the league system”

isnt that summoners war thing a mobile phone game?

dont scare me like that xD i hate all the other ones

I’m actually keeping count of the times i’ve killed the mesmer while in moa form, the sweet victory is hilarious.

One of my favorite moments was when my condi ranger fire trap went off after I got transformed and without missing a beat i leapt into it for fire aura and proceeded to kill him xD.

new meta confirmed

the real question is, will the upcoming rev downstate build be more glorious than our short-lived necro one

youre doing it wrong you didnt take a picture in 240p, please buy yourself a proper potato

Burtnik.5218:

Youre not supposed to beat necro with condi.

Olny necro is supposed to faceroll condi builds with condi -Anet 2015

The irony

BATMAN.6794:

-The number of players who can rally off a single kill has been reduced from five to one. Players will also no longer be able to revive defeated players while in combat.

these 2 were the only 2 bad changes listed.

For blobbers, yes – thats the point.

This is literally the opposite of a necromancer

Why do people want them to reset MMR? Thats not gonna help the situation, it will still go crazy after a short win-streak.

The idea is to disable the standard MMR during leagues completely because leagues themselves are a form of MMR system. As long as you only get matched with people in your division (or one below to help queue times) that is a form of MMR and how leagues would place you in your correct division according to your skill.

CooloutAC.3451:

rennlc.7346:

They say it doesn’t matter because they think it doesn’t it matter. Whatever stance you take on score, whether it’s closer to one extreme (“Best score = best player always!”) or the other (“Score means absolutely nothing ever!”), there are going to be plenty of exceptions to that rule. In my opinion, it’s more beneficial to look at GW2’s relationship between score and skill (and lack thereof) as an opportunity to learn more about the use and misuse of statistics than to attempt to determine a concrete answer on how important or unimportant score currently is in this game.

In my opinion its no different then any team sport. GW2 is no exception. nerds just can’t understand that.

I like how this guy thinks he’s cool because he turns off his computer every now and then to go and sit in front of the tv.

Hvaran.6327:

https://youtu.be/BaRGUCXfqfQ?list=PL3HNz51jtYr5TzkOjJLUKXIsbb1n83Tqe

watch it 3 times a day and you will become unbeatable in wvw

(90% old bls crybabies camped EBG for whole of their playtime)

Lol one of the comments on that vid is so true – “manliest age of gw2”

pretty sure the red guy is a scrapper

It’s going to reset but I wonder if your division icon will linger until the start of the next season.

Salamander.2504:

Holy smokes people, relax. Calling me an “armchair coach” is…crazy. My original post (quoted below) was merely defending 2 other posters after they were called “jealous” after expressing their dissapointment. I couldn’t gives a rat’s kitten whether someone rage-quit in a tournament. The conversation then delved into semantics as Dale Rojo tried to tell me that quitting during a match isn’t “rage-quitting”. Do not try and turn this around on me. LOL

Salamander.2504:

Zetsumei.4975:

To be honest this just sounds like jealousy and nothing more.

Zanther Deathbringer.4762:

Maybe you should get over your jealousy and see the bigger picture here that any decent competitive gaming vet can already see. That is, GW2 as an esport has no future

Wait what? Why are you guys jumping all over Matisse and Wolf Shadow for being “jealous?” They aren’t jealous; they’re correctly pointing out that rage-quitting is unsportmanlike. Geez…

Slandering and complaining that people with talent are ‘wasting it’ is jealousy in my book. If you wanted that opportunity as bad as you say you do then put the work in for it, don’t sit on your behind telling people in a position where they are allowed to make a choice based on their opinion what they should or shouldn’t do.

Matisse.9356:

Wolfs Shadow.7234:

kdaddy.5431:

Whoa whoa dont blame them, there is no counter for them.

Currently only 1-2 teams actually counter this meta out of 16 and dont blame them for anet not doing there jobs.

I don’t care how bad ANET is at balancing, or how lopsided a match is. There are players in pvp right now that would kill for the opportunity to play in this tournament whether they win or lose. Those member(s) of Zero Counterplay that did rage quit are as pathetic as it gets.

I have no respect for players or teams that rage quit; regardless of the circumstances, the sportsmanship goes right out the window.

How can anyone give excuses to rage quitters.

I agree 100%.
No matter how frustrating it is, you play for league and as such that sort of immature behaviour has no place at all.

From my point of view, the rage-quitter(s) – not the whole team per se – should receive the red card for the next season.

No respect.
None.

To be honest this just sounds like jealousy and nothing more.

Sicarius.4639:

Looks like it’s getting to the point where Anet can’t literally even pay people to play their game.

Indeed, just shows you cant reach esports by doing nothing but throwing money at it. Such a waste.

Personally I prefer telegraphs being in the form of character animations rather than cast bar names because it keeps it feeling like an actual fight rather than a game of whack-a-mole staring at your skill bar rather than watching the actual enemy character.

In fact this feeling of it being an actual fight is probably the main reason I like gw2’a combat.

Umm isnt this basically what divisions are… minus the match manipulation

report them under botting to get them looked at

King xiuras.3615:

Dear players and dear Anet.

I’m playing warrior in pvp which is my main. I am still using the gs/hammer build. This build is still good in pvp, tough its not a meta anymore. I am tired of people saying war isn’t meta anymore. Let me set up a few things:

- I am not as brainless as a DH trap guard.
- I am not such a powerful monkhealer as druidù
- I am not a thief who dps ppl to 30% and uses the elite skill to stomp ppl
- I am not a chronomancer who put ppl in a circle, removing their stability and letting them fly in the air.
- I am not a reaper necromancer who got unlimited stability and 2 lives.

Pvp is about fun. It doesnt have to be always META. Stop the fuzz about how bad war is in pvp.

Greetings.
A pvp player.

That says a lot about you

This is hilarious, a bandwagoner trying to pretend he has server loyalty

lol people need to play more archeage.. you should have bought it in installments of 5 or 10 if they refused to deposit before being paid

“Maintaining it”

I hope you guys dont seriously think these are coming any time soon xD

Lol who cares if the guy is mad that you didn’t +1 his fight it just shows his cowardice. He’s not going to lose anything out of dying in a 1v1 with armour repair being free tell him to stick to with the blobs.

azizul.8469:

why does pvp need hero point ?

When you primarily play pve and gain hero points through that to unlock the elite spec you do not need to farm proof of heroics from scratch again if you want to experience wvw in your elite spec and vice versa for if you primarily play wvw. It should be so that if you primarily play PvP you should be able to unlock elite specs through that for the same time investment so that you may experience wvw in your elite spec without regrinding.

Also, they did so already with giving us tomes, how is this different.