Guild Wars 2

SYPHA.9283:

Chaith.8256:

SYPHA.9283:

Chaith.8256:

Dead Muppet.9718:

SobeSoul.6910:

Quake Con had 1v1s, not team play, in the beginning, and there were so many ladders for Quake 3 that I find that your claim of being on the best team in the world to be very dubious.

1v1 got its push start with Thresh Vs Entropy for the ferrari. From there Team Deathmatch 4v4 and 1v1 was pretty big from 1996 through til 2004ish.

1v1 is still going fairly strong but with the assortment of games out today the pool of players isnt like it was for sure.

If your point is that nobody cares about competitive GW2 I think you’ll find there are less people that care about Quake round’ these parts.

Ya I’ll have to disagree. The whole 300 hundred or so that watched the twitch stream is considerably lower than any Quake tournament that ever went on.

Gw2 is not and never will be a true E-sport. A game that relies on meta-builds and counter builds, will never be taken seriously in the gaming community.

Builds > than actual skill involved

Ya.. that’s all pretty irrelevant to my point. Let me reiterate, can I get a show of hands in this GW2 forum who wants to hear about Quake glory days?

Its cute you get kitten when another more competitive game is brought into the(HOORAY YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME) thread.

And i wouldnt mind hearing more Quake talk. It was a fantastic game centered around true skill.

Quake? Isn’t that a shooter? You all are trying to compare a FPS to an MMORPG? Shooters are reaction times and basically thats about it GW2 is reaction times and also timing of attacks while working on combos and rotations. IDK if you’d say LoL was more competitive I would have agreed I don’t think GW2 is LoL levels yet but a FPS? FPS don’t compare to high pace MMORPGS because their is really less thinking involved.

Aeroxe.8140:

Dead Muppet.9718:

Chaith.8256:

Dead Muppet.9718:

trolled? or truth… rank 80 is inevitable by playtime.

Also the decay comment is the truth. The bit about annoying though is opinion ill give it that… however im sure im not alone on that one.

Want to put that out there everytime, why cant I respond.

O god

Kudos to you being an elite engineer also

Of the 2000 players that still play PvP worldwide
of that the players that take it to the level you do
of that the players that play engineer

Grats on being ONE of the better players playing a meta build engineer.

Dont kid yourself into thinking youre esports anything.

Truth.

The salt is high in this one. Higher than campbell’s chicken noodle soup.

^ and that is some salty soup.

Kitt.2567:

NOT EVEN FUNNY. I WANT TO PWN NOSCOC BUT HE ALWAYS RUNNING AWAY FROM MY DUELING REQUEST. I WONDER WHY PEOPLE PRAISE THIS GUY. COWARD. PLZ RUN AWAY TO HELL.

NAH, WHATEVER…

1DON’T CARE ANYMORE SINCE THIS GAME BALANCE IS HUGELY BROKEN BECUZ ANET IS S**K. GOGO ENGI ELE NECRO GG. even noob Wakkey started op ele, or Aeroxe, from Warrior and thief, relatively.

NA BEST? WORLD BEST?
DOES THAT MEAN SOMETHING? see how gw2 competition is so small as compared to other esport game bro. plz get a life and see realities becuz it never comes to real. I rather recommend you become Starcraft 2 pro-gamer.

if i lose to you i will give you all the things i have with my whole gw2 account, meaning i will give you free my gw2 account and all the things i have about gw2. plz reply to this if you are interested, MR.Noscoc*?? (don’t pm me but reply to this in forum cuz i want it every people spectate it)

3 rounds! ok?

LMAO Kitt is Noscoc #1 fan! Funny how you say get a life and then say to play Starcraft LOL! Your so dumb the more games go Esport the more ESL grows but your very short sighted so idk if you can understand that concept. Instead of raging on forums why don’t you meet Noscoc in WTS and beat him there? Wouldn’t that be more humiliating?

Alliances
GvG
Map being more opened and able to be explored. (One day ill walk through ALL of Tyria
PvP (Future looks bright)

wow watching the last match of the finals TCG should have won temple. Once the buff came up rotation went to kitten. Still epic finals.

can’t lie a few of the posts made me lol hard.

So I’m curious to know when the VOD on the WTS finals will be ready. I’d like to “review the tapes” to see what I missed when I saw the games live and have been eagerly waiting! ANET come on people!

Hello everyone just have a quick question if anyone has read up any information on this or can put up a link to the answer i’d really appreciate it. I’m curious to know if their are any plans or announcements on the statistics shown in the PvP tab. Currently it shows solo and team ranked information i’d like to know if they plan or if ANET has announced any changes on the statistics that are shown. Now that we have the new unranked and ranked arenas it feels like the statistics are not relevant. Thanks for taking the time to read this post.

yeah the only change i’d like to see is being able to join hotjoin games. I can understand going into PvE or WvW but they should allow people to join from hotjoin games.

butch.8136:

^ Why market a gw2 for it’s pvp, when it’s pvp is still not where it needs to be. Maybe when we have the league structure, fixed the MMR, etc etc.

Why market gw2 as esport, when we’re not ready yet. The stream was kitten, the game itself was lagging, etc. etc.

They market it for ingame players, that’s fine. No need to market outside the game yet, as it’s not ready for that yet. You want to attract players, not put them off.

Your right about the stream and yeah they still need to fix a few thing but the finals were the saving grace. NA-EU games were quality. Very competitive. But for sure still a lot more to work at and to make better.

Lopez.7369:

After having a few good matches, I actually like this map. I think people may just need to learn how to play it and group up after wipes.

Of course, it would be better if the map was changed to function through some sort of round system, or resurrections could be staggered more.

The map definitely needs work but glad your having a positive experience bro! lol didn’t think it would happen.

infantrydiv.1620:

Coulter.2315:

Guys calm down, NA did not beat EU, 5 people beat 5 other people. The entire NA had next to no input as did the EU. You’re sounding like these idiots who watch football and think they are part of the team.

^The truth.

Supporting you region is important. RIP practiced/play in NA servers so you can say they are a product of NA. So yeah we are all in the same boat.

IDK why people are so focused on comps I agree you have to have something that syncs but TCG didn’t lose because of comps they lost because of rotations. Game 4 was TCG’s until buffs popped then RIP took advantage of TCG not being coordinated and the rest is history. Comps aside in high tier rotation is king.

Aenaos.8160:

I really don’t get this.
Map design has nothing to do with winning or losing CY.
It’s just an arena.
TDM is the purest form of PvP.
It’s a 5v5,the best team wins.
Pure fighting.No gimmicks.
And it is selected by a lot of players in the queues
so I guess there’s a few of us that like to PvP.
Most common mistake I’ve seen in courtyard,
that results in one sided matches,is teams not
regrouping after wipes,and yolo pushing alone
and ofc dying.
@Zoso It’s true if you have a sense of how open field fights work
out,you have a good time in CY.
AFKing and complaining about a PvP match on a PvP game mode
is pathetic.Be a sport and help your team win instead of crying on map chat.
How would you like it if others AFK at Khylo or Foefire etc etc?
I’m dead bored of those maps,but still I play them.

I agree but your account name LOL! +1 (I could be reading it wrong)

Lopez.7369:

Zoso.8279:

Lopez.7369:

I’m not “too pro.” I just find the map boring.

Would you be upset if someone thought forest was boring and didn’t play and left you stranded? What if it was foefire/skyhammer/etc…

Its about sportsmanlike conduct kitten not even that its being a decent teammate lol

I could understand someone going AFK on Skyhammer, and I wouldn’t blame him or her for doing it. But it would be weird for anyone to boycott any of the other maps since those are what Guild Wars 2 is mostly about. It would make me question why they queue in the first place.

My point was basically just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean you can’t be a good sport about it. If you don’t like courtyard/skyhammer/spirit etc… vote for the map you like if it lands on a map you don’t like be a good sport/mature and just play the game. Your last sentence is actually on point. If you know their is a chance sky hammer for example can be rolled why even que? This is only for the test season anyways so its not like its permanent but at least we are going in the direction of new content.

Courtyard can be annoying now because of the circumstances but if it had its own game mode or its own Q with TDM versions of current maps then everyone wins…. also TDM could be a great way to get WvW exclusive players to try out PvP because they are familiar with that style of play. Personally i’ve played courtyard with some WvW commanders (self proclaimed) and it was really fun because they understood the play style (we ended up winning because of communication and teamwork.)

Dustin.2793:

Zoso.8279:

Dustin.2793:

Man this event was legit. Tcg played excellent and gave us one hell of a fight. Also meeting tcg and the arena net staff was awesome. They are really cool and caring people.. Friends for life yo.

Hey toker reactions from game one. Im really curious to know did you guys notice the clock or just had a huge feeling of relief when you saw you won.

Yeah bro we didn’t know the clock was running out. We were so concentrated on getting a cap back that we had no idea the game was ending. Normally games never clock out to zero. It’s usually only on temple people pay attention to the clock for the buffs.

Lol so you guys were in the same boat as I’m sure 90% of the viewers. Focused on the cap and relief when the whistle blew (well relief from the NA side and a lot of swear words from EU side)

johnsonade.9547:

Zoso.8279:

They played good just didn’t rotate well enough they were dominating game 4 but lost it idk how.

Yeah I really feel they just got tired up there. And when good fighters get tired, they just try to kill ppl, but at this level it’s way more about rotation, distraction and communication. They could really use a cc-heavy profession in their comp. Being able to lock a player out of a point while you get the decap is critical at that level where everyone is rotating properly.

Lol yeah I agree Sizer showed that good rotations and decaps are key. Sneaky thieves lol.

Dustin.2793:

Man this event was legit. Tcg played excellent and gave us one hell of a fight. Also meeting tcg and the arena net staff was awesome. They are really cool and caring people.. Friends for life yo.

Hey toker reactions from game one. Im really curious to know did you guys notice the clock or just had a huge feeling of relief when you saw you won.

Ok just have to comment on everyone that thinks now full DPS comps are going to be the only viable strategy. TCG should have won and the fights were so close that it was great to watch. TCG would have won game 1 if they had what 5 sec more lol?! Game 2 was close also and 3 ABJ trying to kill Helseth was what tipped the balance to TCG game 2. Game 3 well nobody beats NA in foefire that just doesn’t happen lol.

Match 4 TCG were DOMINATING the start of the match but once the buffs started they rotated poorly and NA capitalized. NA won because we rotated better lol not even better but we made less mistakes (which is funny because I always felt EU rotated better then NA) and time was on our side :P. But I must say the finals didn’t disappoint. On a side note how the hell did PRIME lose to team SALA?

They played good just didn’t rotate well enough they were dominating game 4 but lost it idk how.

Malchior.5042:

The absolute best tournament final of GW 2 to date. Every game was close, both teams on edge, sick plays and 1v1s from both sides.

Also, Jebro and Chronick absolutely killed it on the cast! Best GW 2 casting duo in the game.

Friendly Petition to fly Jebro and Chronick to cast the next WTS together!

Yeah also want to give shoutout to Jebro and Chronick who were clutch today gj guys. Also TCG great match fun to watch you all play. #respect

Just had to give a post to best game of all tournament (IMO) game 1 Abjured v TCG. The comeback from TCG was real the timer was realer lol

LOL NA for the win! Going to enjoy my finisher a little more now

NANA NANA NA NA next time EU :P

Backpack.8517:

Forcing people to leave their spawn after 20 seconds creates a “stagger” that makes then man down in every fight for the remainder of the game…
Example player X and Y die and go on 15s re spawn, players A B and C live for another 30 seconds before dying, then they go on respawn. 5 seconds later players X and Y are forced out and they are 2v5 for the next 10s, more than enough time to be killed…. The cycle continues. Change the time for players to respawn to either wave ( full team must wipe to respawn) or long enough to adequately regroup.

Ps: I’m tired of farming bad players 500-0 every kitten game

Yeah I agree +1 just minus the last sentence.

Lopez.7369:

I’m not “too pro.” I just find the map boring.

Would you be upset if someone thought forest was boring and didn’t play and left you stranded? What if it was foefire/skyhammer/etc…

Its about sportsmanlike conduct kitten not even that its being a decent teammate lol

Shadelang.3012:

Lopez.7369:

lesalthg.4536:

What bothers me most is that they were the ones who said that courtyard was intended for 2v2s/3v3s

Yup.

Just don’t participate in any of the matches. That’s what I’m doing.

Really? Your purposefully ruining the match for there the others in your team just because you don’t like the map? And that actually seems okay with you? Man I hope they put in a vote to dishonor button. I don’t even care if it gets abused if its used to get rid of people like you.

Lol they do it because they are too “pro” but its funny they are showing that they are really just trolls. #esports :/ better yet #whinnylittlekids

Its been happening to me too.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAndWjc00UbxN22whbifhS6SIASBIDzTgysYLA-TZRBABbcEAQa/BwLDUxjAAgTAAA

Been running this build lately I’m having fun with it. IDK if its what your looking for but its based around DS and bone minions.

The bugs really cripple any MM build.

MM has been the build I’ve ran since GW1 i’ve always loved the feeling of swarming enemies and you still get that feeling (somewhat) in GW2. You can check out my MM build in my signature if you want to run a bunker/boon strip build (change shadow fiend to flesh wurm I find that extra damage and mobility makes a huge difference) but their are many variations to MM. When I play MM I tend to have a harder time against D/D Ele Moa Mesmers and good against thieves and warriors but it really depends on the build and the player skill. My only suggestion would be if your going MM in PvP go 2/0/6/6/0 if your minions can’t handle all the AOE then your going to have a real hard time and AOE is a giving with this current METAs. I played with a really fun build that focused on marks and was also 2/0/6/6/0 but I would have to go back and look for the whole build.

It would be cool to have DM versions of the current maps. Forest for example can only be the beach all the middle to point B. Idk just ideas because I like courtyard and it is nice have a different game mode.

Elitejelly.7462:

I believe this was brought up when Anet did the Guild CDI’s a while back.

This.

We had a CDI on alliances you should check it out it had a lot of cool ideas. Im hopeful we will get alliances.

Yeah after the update I was able to q. Still have to get used to accepting when prompted lol.

Blu outdid himself.

witcher.3197:

Zoso.8279:

People please. Skyhammer is not foefire or forest. You have to learn to play it properly it has its own strategy. At first I raged when I was feared etc… on hammer but with time after learning how to play it….. somewhat lol. I feared etc… ppl. Its frustrating to be winning and then (because you are in a wrong position) get knocked back or feared to your death but thats on you as a player not being aware of your surrounding not the map. Hammer was the biggest issue before not being able to dodge roll but now its playable.

Edit – Don’t pretend when you all fear someone off the map you don’t lol a bit :P

I think there are 2 types of players in PvP. Player A is still below r40, thinks positioning means standing in a corner, and loves Skyhammer because he can finally kill opponents who are better than him. Obviously, player A at this point thinks he’s “good” and tries to convince others about it (and then gets destroyed on other maps by those guys). Player B spent enough time in PvP to realize winning by bypassing combat is not good design and understands why Skyhammer has no place in the rated rotation.

LOL! Yeah I know a lot of R80 who have spent their day in hotjoin but I guess your right as long as you have a dragon finisher your good???? LMAO! L2P. If your good then you beat the player in sky hammer/foefire/forest/spirit watch or whatever map. L2P and stop complaining. Treb and hammer and the same thing well actually no treb is more annoying because if your not looking for it you’ll probably get hit while hammer has a big kitten circle that you see regardless of what your doing. You base skill on rank? Thats how I know your a scrub. I can get to R80 and never leave hotjoin….skills? A good competitor/athlete doesnt complain about the stadium he wins so stop Q.Q “pros” and L2P.

The common complaints from people. “We want something new!” something new gets introduced “We don’t want something new we don’t want to have to change our play style!” lol make up your mind. No DM because people don’t like it…. No hammer because ppl don’t like it… kitten I don’t like treb lets erase kyhlo too! Actually you know what only foefire and forest those are the only maps that should be available in ranked matches! /sarcasm

Winning by bypassing combat? Lol I don’t even know what that means. Does that apply to kyhlo? how about spirit watch or foefire?

Evan Lesh.3295:

http://i.imgur.com/fSV89.gif

LMAO! just wanted to make a note.

Having issues with Unranked and Ranked arena. Not letting me join because of firewall (turned off firewall still had issue) but I am able to join hotjoin matches.

Having this same issue. Only happens for ranked and unranked it lets me join hotjoin.

First off let me just say awesome topic OP really fun to think back as to why we are here in Tyria. I’ll just make a quick post as to why I am here.

I started playing GW1 and instantly fell in love with the game. I have always been a player who likes to feel like I’m leading an army in every game I play and GW1 really gave me that feeling with MM. When I played other MMO I would hate the grind to max level and once you got to max level is when you started to really have fun with a game because you can basically do everything I had never reached max level in any MMO that I played because it always felt like work to me and when I play a game and it starts to feel like work is normally the time that I leave. GW1 I never felt like I was working it always felt like fun for me. Only having to pay for the game and no subs quick leveling to max level where you could then enjoy everything that the game had to offer always sat well with me.

GW to this day has been the ONLY MMO that I have reached max level (with multiple characters) I always felt engaged and never felt a “need” to do anything I always had a choice and always multiple ways to get to where I wanted to go. Then I hear GW2 is in production didn’t have a date it was ready when it was ready and kitten how I respect that in a company. I’ve always been the type of person that likes to take their time doing things when you get rushed you make mistakes and ANET having that stance for GW2 always made me respect them so much more so I waited. Read info here and their learned it was going to be an “actual” MMO (not instanced) and that really pumped me up. I always felt that GW open world would be so much nicer then instanced how it was and I’m not disappointed. Read about the combat (which is for me the best combat in any MMO out now) was pumped being able to combo with other players just got me more and more hungry for the game.

So now 2yrs later and I am very satisfied with how the game turned out overall. Sure my beautiful MM class has been changed but I still get the feeling of swarming enemies that I had in GW1 (obviously not the same but its still there) the combat the feel of the combat turned out to be better then I expected and is one of the main reasons why I love the game so much. The evolving world watching NPC fight each other the feeling of a living world I feel that and its nice to have that feeling in an MMO because thats what you want. You want to feel like your part of a world that is alive a world that will change and if I don’t log on for a few months and I come back I can expect something new ( FREE!!! ) to explore and new lore to read or experience. And then the 3 modes PvE/PvP/WvW for me that is another huge reason why I’m here.

I played PvE for a very long time when I started with the game now I find myself always in HotM I’m sure in a few months ill be constantly roaming the borderlands and jumping between the 3 modes keeps me feeling good and not worn out of the game because GW2 is basically 3 games in one. Well these are a few reasons why I’m here in Tyria and somethings I didn’t want but the majority are things that I did want so overall I’m a happy camper.

#Kurzick4life!!!

Yeah them Karma streamers always run bet arenas and such they stream on twitch so if any betting is going on I’m sure it will be from them. IDK how reliable they are but from past streams they seem ok as middle men/ event coordinators idk handle at your own risk all! Persoanlly I’m not a betting man I only put my money in 100% situations but bets do make for interesting stories lol.

perilisk.1874:

Hey, I’ve got nothing against Disney/Marvel, but now that I think about it, aside from from Kasjory, our main characters in this arc are a genius in a robot suit, an archer, a big viking-style guy with a blunt weapon, and a sneaky-type with questionable loyalties. Now we’re all working with a high-tech global defense force (complete with floating battleships), and its hands-on leader. All we’re missing before we can really start to avenge Mordremoth’s victims is for Canach to get exposed to draconic energy and transform into some sort of incredibly powerful Husk.

LOL! The Incredible Husk!

I’ve always liked the idea of customizable idle stances. Gem store bought idle stances. Since customization is one of the big things about GW2 it would be nice to customize your stance when idle maybe have a wimpy stance or heroic stance. It would definitely make HotM for example look a bit more alive and natural compared to everyone doing the same animations lol.

Tachenon.5270:

lordkrall.7241:

People are aware that recent Marvel movies were made by Disney, right?

People know that Disney owns Marvel, yes.

LOL! Ok now that picture is funny. Right now I’m excited about the story and I’m curious to see where they go with the dragon egg. I don’t think GW2 can get very “childish” when they have some “controversial” characters. So they have already shown they will touch on some taboo topics.

Q.Q I can’t beat a turret engi so ban them!

/sarcasm

NeXeD.3042:

Thx, not what I asked though. Also totm is bugged to kitten right now right? Why handicap yourself.

Oh sorry, misunderstood the question. Yeah I know the minions stats don’t affect my necromancer stats but they themselves affect my necromancer because of the traits I pointed out in my last post. FotM is a bit bugged basically exploding all my minions when I have Death Nova but its ok because of the damage done when they explode and when running a minion build you have to expect bugs lol minions themselves are bugged so even playing an MM your kinda handicapped :P

To address the OP i’ve never ran any variation of full DPS MM because when playing an MM build you have to take your minions survivability into consideration and minions just die way to fast for me to even experiment with a full DPS MM build but if your looking for numbers a GREAT way to find out is going to HotM open up the combat log from your chat box and test the minions DPS on a test golem. Very easy to do just takes some time.

NeXeD.3042:

Zoso.8279:

Thaddeus.4891:

Kain Francois.4328:

Narkodx.1472:

Any build that invests in minions is automatically un-optimized for damage – there are far better traits for damage and far better utilities for damage

6/6/0/0/2 is not optimized for damage?

[Minion Heal skill]
[Minion Shadow Fiend]
[Minion Devourer]
[Signet that grants +180 power]
[Flesh Golem]

The only difference is that you change one of the traits for minions to deal 25% more damage, and instead of the two wells, you take minions.

How does this compare to the wells and other classes?

What is this suppose to prove? Yes, MM have some attack that can do dmg. Does it mean that it’s good dmg? The Necro is horrible at direct dmg with about 65% of the dmg of a thief. MM have some advantage in PvP, but damage is not one of them.

Highlight the part I agree with the most. Minions thats focus on DPS die too fast. If your going to try to use minions for DPS then your better off using minions like bombs or only using ranged minions and hope they don’t get too close to all the AOE that is constant in a fight. 4-4-6-0-0 or 6-6-4-0-0 personally I don’t like too much for MM stats because like I said before the minions just die way too fast. You’ll be able to get 1 or 2 (if your lucky) uses of you minions utility skill before having to wait for their cool down because they die quick. 2-0-6-6-0 for me is the optimal MM trait because it allows your minions to actually stay in the fight and lets you use your utilities more often then other trait lines. Life Siphon + toughness will give you a lot of survivability while still doing enough DPS to win in a 1v1. Personally when I play with builds I look for two thing. 1) Can the build win 1v1 2) Can the build hold out in a 1v2 or even have enough survivability to let me escape. Full DPS MM might win a few 1v1 (maybe) but will not last in a 1v2 situation.

You know the minion health, attack, toughness have nothing to do with the necros stats right?

Flesh of the Master give you 20+ toughness for each minion summoned. Vampiric Master gives you life. Fetid Consumption give you automatic condi cleanse.

Just watched Ready Up looks sic! HORNS OF WAR!! :P

Thaddeus.4891:

Kain Francois.4328:

Narkodx.1472:

Any build that invests in minions is automatically un-optimized for damage – there are far better traits for damage and far better utilities for damage

6/6/0/0/2 is not optimized for damage?

[Minion Heal skill]
[Minion Shadow Fiend]
[Minion Devourer]
[Signet that grants +180 power]
[Flesh Golem]

The only difference is that you change one of the traits for minions to deal 25% more damage, and instead of the two wells, you take minions.

How does this compare to the wells and other classes?

What is this suppose to prove? Yes, MM have some attack that can do dmg. Does it mean that it’s good dmg? The Necro is horrible at direct dmg with about 65% of the dmg of a thief. MM have some advantage in PvP, but damage is not one of them.

Highlight the part I agree with the most. Minions thats focus on DPS die too fast. If your going to try to use minions for DPS then your better off using minions like bombs or only using ranged minions and hope they don’t get too close to all the AOE that is constant in a fight. 4-4-6-0-0 or 6-6-4-0-0 personally I don’t like too much for MM stats because like I said before the minions just die way too fast. You’ll be able to get 1 or 2 (if your lucky) uses of you minions utility skill before having to wait for their cool down because they die quick. 2-0-6-6-0 for me is the optimal MM trait because it allows your minions to actually stay in the fight and lets you use your utilities more often then other trait lines. Life Siphon + toughness will give you a lot of survivability while still doing enough DPS to win in a 1v1. Personally when I play with builds I look for two thing. 1) Can the build win 1v1 2) Can the build hold out in a 1v2 or even have enough survivability to let me escape. Full DPS MM might win a few 1v1 (maybe) but will not last in a 1v2 situation.

I go more bunker build rather then DPS when running MM see signature for build (changed shadow fiend to flesh wurm). When using minions for DPS i tend to focus more on bone minions and death nova. I’ve been playing around with 4-0-6-0-4 trait line that seems fun. I’ll post a link to the build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fRAQNAndWjc00UbxN22whbifhS6SIASBIDzTgysYKA-TZRBABbcEAAvMQFnAAr2fAgHBAA

Tadsoul.6951:

the damage from death nova is roughly a 1000 that doesnt scale off of power or any stat that i could find so 5 death nova all at once is 5000 damage this wouldnt kill anyone from full hp.

oh yeah I understand that it won’t kill someone with only the mark of horror but used with bone minions it can take out a good chunk of health. If your able to control the detonation of Mark of Horror you’ll have more control of when would be a good time to use that AOE. You would even be able to do a combo with Mark of Horror instead of now just hoping they die fast enough so you can set up a decent combo chain with bone minions and DS.

Also note Training of the Master trait makes each bone minion cause 2k damage for each detonation. But I’m not sure if it affects Mark of Horror jagged horrors explosion damage.

Build templets! +1. This has been posted before lets hope ANET can make this happen even if its only for sPvP. The trusty pen and paper is getting tiring :P