Guild Wars 2

Just a flesh wound.3589:

On top of this there is no tutorials on how to combine skills to get combo effects.

100% not true at all. QT is a fine example.

boo.3582:

Sykper.6583:

boo.3582:

I’m guessing that it’s taking forever because they are afraid that when they do release it alot of raiders will just stop raiding because they have their armor and don’t really care about the rest.

They should have given a preview of other classes by now and at least a recipe to make the precursors for other tiers.

“We remain hard at work, and release is still some months off.

We know you’ll have a lot more questions about legendary armor, but we’ll save those for closer to launch. For now, enjoy this sneak peek, and we’ll keep you updated as work progresses on the other sets." Paul, Oct 20, 2016

It’s been some months off.. how about an update please?

As a raider, I believe Forsaken Thicket won’t be so easily left behind, partially because I can do it weekly for shards to purchase the Ghostly Infusion which at this point is highly sought out and provides an alternative to doing Fractals. Plus I’ve still not gotten all the unique skins from there.

…Plus we just like doing the raid, it’s engaging. I return back to normal Heart of Thorns and I do remember back in the day those maps were rather difficult, now I feel extremely competent so much that they feel a bit weak now.

I really, really do think we are due for a Preview of something though, let’s hope for this coming Tuesday with some form of announcement.

My prediction? February 7th is when a really major patch hits.

I’m also a raider but unlike you, have multiple infusions and alot of the skins (all of which that I want). Something new to work to would be a plus in my eyes..

I still think it’s getting stale.. been a while for a new release and I’m pretty sure they openly stated that making the raids aren’t a huge drain on resourses and are completed fairly quickly. So.. now the legendary armor is holding up new raids from coming out? Seems pretty lame to me… When did wing 3 come out?

the main thing is people are preparing cause of all the info released early that anyone who wanted them will have them instantly. besides heavy looks like garbage imo.

corpse toss only does a half charge when a ranger is running druid and when a revenant uses it. works fine on my warrior but when i switch to those classes it breaks. which sucks because revenant is the class i use it on most.

Gator.5729:

gebrechen.5643:

Are we talking lag or ping?

I’m connecting from EU to NA and got terrible pings tonight. Spikes up to 3k, average about 500ms

Meanwhile tier 1 has terrible lags for everyone. How about an infrastructure upgrade, Anet?

It is not terrible lag for everyone. The lag only affects certain people. More then likely it is one of the many nodes you connection passes through on its way to the game server. Run pingplotter and determine where the problem is, this will show you where to start.

actually for me it wasnt. it was the new dragonball game. anytime i go play it my ping spikes to 4k. if i dont play it at all my ping wont spike. i maintin less than 50 ping at all times.

notice how necro isnt in any of this. op is a baised as he can get.he also wont explain how he got them as he just pulled them out of his kitten to make himself look like hes taken time to do this and isnt baised.

SlippyCheeze.5483:

Khyan.7039:

SlippyCheeze.5483:

Roald.1260:

Herald isn’t that bad in terms of dps or cc. But it is lower than Temps and thiefs and scepter guards.

Lower theoretical DPS. Higher practical DPS than the person who just grabbed that Scepter Guard who they levelled to 80 last week with tomes, and know very little about to play, so wind up on the floor a lot.

Player skill >>>>>>>>>> class choice for most people. and if you were in the 4-person qtfy team clearing the raid, you wouldn’t be debating this here.

Guard has nothing difficult to learn, it’s a really bad example you did there.

I’m just gonna sit here and pretend that was the joke.

sorry but gaurdian isnt as complicated as you think it is. like most classes its just a matter of spamming skills.

Xcorpdog.2840:

apharma.3741:

That presige is lost if you can buy the raids though, if you weren’t allowed to sell raids we wouldn’t need extra categories in LFG and people would have to earn those prestige items one way or another.

I don’t go around crying I’m never going to have God of PvP title because I know I’m not that good nor am I willing to put in the amount of effort needed to get it which would be PvP for months. I am ok with this, I’ve made my choice of either “git gud” or do without and I will do without. Same can be said of legendary armour, no-one needs it and it would be cheaper to get multiple exotic or even ascended sets instead.

There’s never been any prestige behind the armor, the bosses are comparatively easy to kill with a group of 10 maybe decent players. I would argue that WvW players are better suited to beating the encounters since they are more used to being lead through fights where most PvE players are used to PHIW game play that doesn’t reward any different.
Beyond raid selling there’s always going to be players who get carried through the content, like revenants that deal 4k dps on Matthias for example. The only real difference is the players are being carried for free instead of paying people for the privilege.
And you could argue that the people selling the raids would be more likely to help other players clear if they weren’t making money, not that you did but covering a base, most of the people in my guild would probably be on hiatus were it not for selling since at the moment there isn’t much to do in game right now.
Until Anet actually makes a content that truly can only be completed by a minority of players, all working hard, there will be 0 prestige behind any item in game.

and if they do make content that can only be completed by a minority (raids are that currently. most players dont raid) then itll just be sold until its lost all prestige like raids are right now.people can still be carried through any level of difficult content if the others are good enough. you seem to think this is only a problem because raids are “easy” for exp players. newish players struggle rather hard which is why the raid population is so low.

its fun watching everyone make every excuse they can to “prove” they arent as bad as they actually are.

nothelseth.4621:

Soothsayer.9206:

nothelseth.4621:

henry is easily the goat baiter

for years hes been able to trick the forum into having a wild wall of text discussion for 5+ pages by writing simple small statements as facts

glad to have you back man, proof that s5 was a success

u should go into competitive fishing

So, if what you are saying is true, then trolling people on the forums makes S5 a success, what in the world sort of logic is that? Furthermore, goading people into discussions that effect a particular profession is somehow a good thing especially because it raises the ire and now wastes the time and energy of so many? Mesmer is already on the verge of being nerfed into irrelevancy and you think this is good for both community and players? So, why encourage people to spread malcontent over a venue that is supposed to be enjoyable?
By the way, probably should encourage him to stick to his day job, competitive fishing is probably a lot more work than playing GW2 and trolling forums.

I like Henry. He sparks unique conversations instead of the usual, boring and repeated conversations being parroted over and over. Even when it is a tired conversation like balance he makes it unique enough for me to click which I can’t say for other people.

You shouldnt put too much stock on how much a ‘’nerf profession’’ thread is going to have on the game. The developers may certainly read these forums but no drug is going to make anyone follow through on a decision based on what they read here.

If you don’t want to give a thread like this traffic then don’t comment on it. If you find the current conversations boring then create your own one and see if people want to talk about it here.

Say what you will about the duke here but he gets people talking.

it took 1 thread from 1 guy complaining about ap to get it removed from the pvp leaderboards.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Ithilwen.1529:

Lordrosicky.5813:

….I rest my case..and I don’t play mesmer or thief, just saying

New players can easily face role on mesmer and be carried by clone and shatter spam.

I lose to gold mesmers, even silver mesmers cause me problems. This is not ok.

It’s “not ok” that you lose to Mesmers? And, by implication, they need to be nerfed because you lose to them?

Wow, just wow. That’s very revealing.

Lol its just so op. Dont pretend its not. Everyone knows it. Look at the damage they can do whilst be incredibly hard to kill

you think your so good you shouldnt be beat by mesmers period? news flash. your not the best player you think you are.

Lordrosicky.5813:

fumbii.3582:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Supreme.3164:

Lordrosicky.5813:

Moonsinn.5382:

I’m so sick of these threads. Mesmer is not OP. There isn’t a single OP class now. Some might need some tweaking, but balance is very good right now. Honestly, I eat mesmers like candy. Maybe you just need to learn when to attack (not during BF or shield), and dodge or aoe the clones.

Lol the window to attack the doesnt exist. They can chain invukns or blocks whilst clone spamming for huge dps. Then just blink away for the few seconds they can be attacked. Their condi clear is mad too

But..

1) They can’t sit on top of traps/wells whose CD starts the second they’re used

2) They can’t hold a point

3) You don’t see 2-3 mesmer teams winning consistently every teamfight where one team lacks strong condi clear

4) You don’t need outstanding condi clear ( like your build loaded with condi clear to 70-80% total) to win against condi mesmer

5) They have no god mode, where they have pulsating stability and just advance without fear into the thick of battle

6) Blurred frenzy root them…they don’t walk towards you while blocking the kitten out of everything

7) You don’t see bad mesmers being carried by passive sustain…they die in few secs

8) They can be CCed for a change…not like most other professions that truly fart stability/block for hours to no end

9) New players don’t roll a mesmer for easy win..they die in 2s using them, they need loads of practice.

In a game dominated by cheesy mechanics…you still don’t find videos like this..for mesmer:

-Necromancer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcho3twIK2g

-DragonHunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWRWW3tb4Rw

-Warrior
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpxIggT6thM

….I rest my case..and I don’t play mesmer or thief, just saying

New players can easily face role on mesmer and be carried by clone and shatter spam.

I lose to gold mesmers, even silver mesmers cause me problems. This is not ok.

You lose against mesmers because you’re playing with necro and did you know that you can dodge moa?

Gold/silver mesmers shouldnt be owning me. Something is seriously wrong

you said before you got placed bronze. soooooooo

Lordrosicky.5813:

CrashTheGrey.1492:

Henry can’t differentiate clones from the real player.

How can we expect you to understand how active damage mitigation works?

Let alone what power creep even is… or the fact that its present in every single elite spec.

Henry just needs to be held after the repeated abuse he faces against anyone who bests him. Poor Henry. A moment of silence please.

Hmmm well whatever you stay its still the most op class by far.

i thought you claimed that was DH then, warrior. then you claimed it was thief. now mesmer. lets be honest you dont care about balance. you just want your class to be op right?currently youve claimed half of the total classes are overpowered. you see how stupid this is getting?

multiple ESL players streaming have said rev is perfectly viable. i think highly of their opinions much more than your average forum user.

i dont play mesmer. so i get beat by them a lot on builds with low aoe pressure. EVEN I KNOW MESMER IS NOT EVEN CLOSE TO OP.

Valento.9852:

sophiewhite.3149:

Valento.9852:

Astralporing.1957:

Originally it was to force you to use either a defensive and offensive stat infusion, or to use a versatile one, which cost more (there weren’t any “easiest to obtain” items, as there was only one source for everything). Now that all slots are the same, the reason for unique tag disappeared as well.

The purpose has shifted. Now it is to populate all maps if someone wants both rings/accessories.

except when they nerf one into making it insanely grindy. no thanks. id rather raid to get my rings which arent unique (and i dont like pugging that much.)

The unique attribute isn’t useless and has a purpose, regardless if it suits your choices or not.

i never said it was useless. but raid rings are not unique. id love to see a explanation why some are and some arent.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Not seen anything of this dude in a while but unless Helseth has changed considerably in the last 2 years then playing this tournament seems a terrible idea seen as all he will do is call everyone plebs, ridicule everyone and just generally use the whole thing to make people feel bad about themselves.

So if you play just be prepared to be mocked on stream for everyone to see. That is how he did things previously. I doubt he has changed although others can speak to that.

helseth has a funny persona he sticks to to make streams interesting. if your skin is so thin you cant take a joke or take yourself too serious then this isnt the tournament for you. however if you want to show off your skill and have fun? this is totally for you.

Valento.9852:

Astralporing.1957:

Originally it was to force you to use either a defensive and offensive stat infusion, or to use a versatile one, which cost more (there weren’t any “easiest to obtain” items, as there was only one source for everything). Now that all slots are the same, the reason for unique tag disappeared as well.

The purpose has shifted. Now it is to populate all maps if someone wants both rings/accessories.

except when they nerf one into making it insanely grindy. no thanks. id rather raid to get my rings which arent unique (and i dont like pugging that much.)

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

You can do PvP dailies in one of the 1000s of arenas (set up for just that purpose). That alone earns you probably far more tomes than you’ll be able to use (eventually; initially you’ll eat them up faster than you can gain). Ask your guildies about how to do it; it’s easier to show you in game than to explain the details on the forum, especially if you’re “not a huge pvp fan”.

winning a game in the farming arena counts for less than losing a regular pvp game. so id recommend you just do regular pvp. you dont need to be good. just play. who knows you might like it.

duster.7013:

Amaimon.7823:

1. I use the meta hammer+GS build < exact opposite of snowflake

This gave me a hearty laugh. Let’s assume this isn’t bait.

There are three war builds

1. (The only meta war build) macebow condi.
This is tanky and can kill elementalists/druids assuming they dont drop the dodges. It has a 35% chance to beat guards and can only survive on point vs theifs, so it’s not really a great meta build until you start fighting good druids and eles. Although newbies sometimes struggle against it.

2. GS/2axe
Necro lewding machine, sucks at everything else. Also needs stability and a little bit of luck to zerg the necro. Not meta.

3. Burst burning
One of the worst burning builds in the game, only saving grace is that it’s tanky IF you have a healer, its 1v1 tankyness leaves some want. Also not meta.

GS/hammer has not been meta since HOTS came out, in fact it’s trash. Even when it was “meta” it was only strong due to rampage. The actual stun combo was garbage meant to keep you going until the next rampage. In addition, gs/maceshield is also complete trash. I don’t know why people run it.

greasword axe hasnt been good ever. mace is much better for the power build (odd i know) because axe is trash. but condi mace warrior and power macewarrior are the only meta. you go condi when your enemy team is DH/druid heavy. also the burst burn lacks sustain pretty bad.

Astralporing.1957:

cranos.5913:

Randulf.7614:

It’s partly delayed because it requires the next round of raids to patch into the game. That was my understanding anyway.

If anything is getting delayed it’s the actual raid because of legendary armor. They are horrendously slow at creating armors for some reason.

That has been explained. With each armor they not only need to make sure there’s as little clipping/misjoins as possible. They also need to make sure there’s no clipping/misjoins on every combination between each new armor piece and every already existing one within the same weight category.

Which, of course, means that each next armor takes them longer to make than the previous one.

I assume, that, with legendary having animated pieces, it’s even harder.

And that’s only technical problems. There might be an additional slowdown if they decided to, for example, make a second legendary set for a different content (which, frankly, they should have done at the very beginning).

the devs are insane for taking on such a task. thats a lot of work.

Nickzor.2453:

sophiewhite.3149:

Bugabuga.9721:

But ranger/druid and theif’s traps work the same? Placed they become invisible to the enemy (unless you actually see player place them) and player can ran away. And then you’ll run into dual-triple ranger trap and almost die from condie burst unless your cleanse is available (fire + poison+ bleeding + knockdown )

those traps are a absolute joke compared to DH traps. cmon dont bother comparing them.

Thief traps are kind of useless but condi ranger/druid traps are honestly much more deadly in the sense OP is complaining about. You walk on a DH trap with no DH near by and you just roll out of it. Walk on a druid/ranger trap pile and are condi bombed. In general neither are really a big issue IMO but I disagree with your assessment.

their size is also extremely small. you can cap a node and never touch one. they arent used in any working build because they are trash. damage can be high but landing the things is super hard. even if you drop them on a node and leave. you can also just dodge out of them taking way less damage. only time ive died to them is on thief and i just stood there.

Bugabuga.9721:

But ranger/druid and theif’s traps work the same? Placed they become invisible to the enemy (unless you actually see player place them) and player can ran away. And then you’ll run into dual-triple ranger trap and almost die from condie burst unless your cleanse is available (fire + poison+ bleeding + knockdown )

those traps are a absolute joke compared to DH traps. cmon dont bother comparing them.

spiking to 4k ping sometimes. dced about 3 or 4 times tonight. my internet is completely fine. its just gw2.

Amaimon.7823:

Jzaku.9765:

Stop using baseline warrior and use the elite spec.
Also stop using what sounds to be a special snowflake Hammer warrior build with Physical utilities (?) and use an actual meta build if you want to feel effective.

1. I use the elite spec
1. I use the meta hammer+GS build < exact opposite of snowflake
1. using physical utilities leaves me 100% vulnerable to the skrittstorm that is the conditions in PvP

the greatsword hammer isnt the best build and uses all baseline traits. not the elite spec. try this baby on for size http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Berserker_-_GS/Mace_Burst
FEEL THE POWER. FEEL THE DAMAGE. FEEL LIKE A GOD!!!!
also read your traits watch drazeh stream on twitch. if you arent achieving success. copy those that are achieving it. guarantee it will make you a better player.

apharma.3741:

sophiewhite.3149:

Auroraborealis.7310:

sophiewhite.3149:

so basically your saying because people were born on a different part of this giant rock they are automatically much different and kinder and better.

Well compare two different species of bird, that evolved in different parts of the world. They are both majestic and unique in their own way, but due to certain environmental factors sub species could display completely different behavioral patters. Yes they are both birds, and no bird is more special than another bird when you consider a universal perspective; all live is amazing. However, its undeniable that sociological and behavioral patters of humans can vary from culture to culture.

I’m no psychologist but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out there’s a difference in the average player in EU and NA regions. But don’t take my word for it, go check it out for yourself. You’re still gonna lose in EU, and you’re still gonna have blowouts, but they are less common, and even when they do happen you don’t have people expressing their negative emotions quite as frequently and as vulgarly as in NA.

so EU and NA are also different species? i agree it can be different but im getting tired of non stop EU is superior to NA comments constantly. if you even mention your NA in a thread or stream you instantly get comments like “well na isnt real pvp anyway” as if the comment has no validity. your sample size is too small to say its for sure better 100%. id say you got lucky. EU has toxic people so does NA its no different.

Jebro is in the top 50 in NA.

Just let that sink in for a minute.

Jebro….top 50….NA….Jebro.

im not talking about whos better. EU has better high tier players we all know this. but your not any different from us. your not more or less toxic. our opinions have the same validity. we both play the same game.

Sorin Noroku.5342:

sophiewhite.3149:

i wish i knew enough people that wanted to burn the market. if your cool with wasting your time you could easily crash it. just sell your raids cheaper than theirs. they get nothing you get it all. they drop their prices you drops yours.

I watch a lot of the raid sellers on twitch. This wouldn’t work. They don’t drop prices in NA if someone undercuts them. People go to them since they finish it in 1-2 pulls. They have a name/brand you’d try to muscle your way into. Though I do encourage you to try it! More raid sellers could mean more people interested in raids, meaning more people pugging!

haha i wish i could. tbh finding people who are interested in a static group is hard enough. let alone people who know the mechanics and arent very bad at them.alongside knowing rotations and such. i pretty much gave up on raiding after i spent a entire weak just waiting during my playtime for ques and finding none for the bosses i wanted to do.

Auroraborealis.7310:

sophiewhite.3149:

so basically your saying because people were born on a different part of this giant rock they are automatically much different and kinder and better.

Well compare two different species of bird, that evolved in different parts of the world. They are both majestic and unique in their own way, but due to certain environmental factors sub species could display completely different behavioral patters. Yes they are both birds, and no bird is more special than another bird when you consider a universal perspective; all live is amazing. However, its undeniable that sociological and behavioral patters of humans can vary from culture to culture.

I’m no psychologist but it doesn’t take a genius to figure out there’s a difference in the average player in EU and NA regions. But don’t take my word for it, go check it out for yourself. You’re still gonna lose in EU, and you’re still gonna have blowouts, but they are less common, and even when they do happen you don’t have people expressing their negative emotions quite as frequently and as vulgarly as in NA.

so EU and NA are also different species? i agree it can be different but im getting tired of non stop EU is superior to NA comments constantly. if you even mention your NA in a thread or stream you instantly get comments like “well na isnt real pvp anyway” as if the comment has no validity. your sample size is too small to say its for sure better 100%. id say you got lucky. EU has toxic people so does NA its no different.

i wish i knew enough people that wanted to burn the market. if your cool with wasting your time you could easily crash it. just sell your raids cheaper than theirs. they get nothing you get it all. they drop their prices you drops yours.

so basically your saying because people were born on a different part of this giant rock they are automatically much different and kinder and better.

Tanglewood.7523:

Solo / Duo and NO Team Queue just has to stay as it is.
What we do need is community run events and or even automated events!
That is a far far better way of providing the full 5v5 team based competitive game.

no. not only do we need team ques we need team events implemented by anet. the community working hard wont grow it alone. no sane person would become competitive in a rng gameplay like this i understand other games can do it. but those games arent so dependent on your teammates like guild wars is.

cranos.5913:

I see more warriors and the same amount of thieves/necros tbh. The only difference is when it comes to thieves or necros that they swap before the start of the match.

lower tier you see more warriors. medium tier you see more DH and high tier you see more druids.

Just a flesh wound.3589:

dagrdagaz.4913:

Just a flesh wound.3589:

Neural.1824:

OriOri.8724:

From his post, OP is genuinely confused about the name of the patch, and not concerned with the price of the mats.

THANK YOU! People around here seem to be so obsessed with finding flaw in another persons opinion that it completely blinds them to what is being stated in the first place.

Well, the OP did say in his title

Why do Silk Patches Cost Mostly Leather?

Which implies he was asking about cost and not name of the item.

To me the title does not imply to any gold value, but indeed why Silk Patches are mostly made of Leather.

He could be. But he did word it ambiguously enough by asking about cost in the title and then not clearly stating what he meant in the original post that some people could believe he is asking why leather is a predominant cost rather than silk being the most costly item.

leather is the currency here. silk patches cost mostly leather. wording might notve been absolutely perfect but you came here looking for a way to turn it into something its not.

dh’s are practically free kills half the time.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Solstace.2514:

I guarantee you will get destroyed against any competent player if you are mindlessly spamming skills.

Nah you wont.

so your number 1 right? because if your correct. then you are #1 right now.

DeceiverX.8361:

Spartacus.3192:

Auroraborealis.7310:

Its most ridiculous when you have a Warrior lord rushing because they can literally tank the lord and 2 other players simultaneously long enough to secure a kill.

So you are saying a 2v1 (2 players vs 1 enemy warrior) AND you had Lord and his soldiers helping you and you couldn’t kill the warrior before he killed lord?

I think that says more about the 2 players on your team than it does about the warrior or Lord.

or shall we chalk this post up as another one of those super exaggerations?

I mean depends heavily on cooldowns and the builds at hand. Stance DPS berserker can surely last long enough to get the kill during its immunity uptime. It’d burn everything to do so, but it would be doable.

he can kill the lord within 20 seconds while being cced for about half of that and spending half of that outside of berzerker? LOL. and after 20 seconds resistance is gone. 10 seconds endure pain both of them are gone. i want to see a warrior be 2v1ed and kill a lord with actually good players.and im not talking drazeh vs bronze people. im talking drazeh vs helseth and sin or something on those levels.

BlaqueFyre.5678:

sophiewhite.3149:

bluri.2653:

kitten you make too long posts okay I’ll give you one last reply as well then.

2. You say thief can 1v1 mesmer and ele. Let me tell you this – do you think 1v1 an ele for 1-2 minutes before killing it is worth the time or optimal play? One the ele shouldn’t even be in a 1v1 EVER so this whole 1v1 is weird from the start. And you also feel that ele should be able to tank any dpser forever without dying? Fighting a mesmer as DP dash thief there is no way you hold the node against a mesmer, I bet you can hold the node much longer for the thief to not have this matchup being worth a single second and not even being able to kill you, as said feel free to prove me wrong on stream.

im sorry but a full bunker class shouldnt be instakilled by thief at all. taking 1 or 2 mins should be a minnimum. ele isnt going to be able to kill you. so you shouldnt be killing it easily 1v1 at all. you call instagibbing a class completely specced for tanking balanced? thats your end goal?

Point out where he said he wanted to instagib Ele, no where in his posts has he inferred to it or Stated as such.

hes talking like taking 1 or 2 mins to kill a ele as a thief is a problem. the alternative is instagibbing them.

bluri.2653:

kitten you make too long posts okay I’ll give you one last reply as well then.

2. You say thief can 1v1 mesmer and ele. Let me tell you this – do you think 1v1 an ele for 1-2 minutes before killing it is worth the time or optimal play? One the ele shouldn’t even be in a 1v1 EVER so this whole 1v1 is weird from the start. And you also feel that ele should be able to tank any dpser forever without dying? Fighting a mesmer as DP dash thief there is no way you hold the node against a mesmer, I bet you can hold the node much longer for the thief to not have this matchup being worth a single second and not even being able to kill you, as said feel free to prove me wrong on stream.

im sorry but a full bunker class shouldnt be instakilled by thief at all. taking 1 or 2 mins should be a minnimum. ele isnt going to be able to kill you. so you shouldnt be killing it easily 1v1 at all. you call instagibbing a class completely specced for tanking balanced? thats your end goal?

watching sindrenerr’s last stream there was yet again a guy throwing the game. same guy doing it over and over and over. can we nerf him yet?

5 pages of people complaining because theyd rather nerf than get better at the game.

you didnt lose raiting. so whats the issue?

sophiewhite.3149:

David.5974:

200 games is too much for me (and I really want participate). Some of us who want place in leaderboard don’t have enough time to play. But this idea is great. 100games should be good start.

even as little kitten games would work tbh. the main problem is these 16-0 accounts.

why did it sensor fifty? wat?

if you um want to send me some of that leather. ill love you forever XD ill put it to good use! congrats on all that leather man. im jelly. congrats on all that leather though. your a rich person now.

David.5974:

200 games is too much for me (and I really want participate). Some of us who want place in leaderboard don’t have enough time to play. But this idea is great. 100games should be good start.

even as little kitten games would work tbh. the main problem is these 16-0 accounts.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Lies and slander. EU’s moral purity would not allow for this sort of immature behavior. At best those players will be transfers from NA seeking to destroy the sanctity of the EU leaderboards and PvP community as a whole. This sort of thing ONLY happens in NA.

everytime i go to watch sin or hesleth or drazeh streams people always start talking about how pro eu is and how they dont have these issues. its nice to see it happening there too. maybe itll finally get support to change how it works instead of people just bashing NA constantly.

Lordrosicky.5813:

Warrior, thief and mesmer are too good currently.

All the other classes are fine.

So lets come up with some ideas how to nerf them in a fair way.

I will edit this with the best ideas in this thread and then we can contribute to the development of the game.

ill take you seriously if you post a video of you playing against all of these classes and post your rank .

Ross Biddle.2367:

Implement voice comms in PvP and 5 randoms instanly become a communicating team.

Even if only 1 of the 5 has a mic.

Amazing.

at the beginning of the season (NA) a guy i qued with in high gold gave our team a discord link. 2 of us instantly got on making us a 3 man premade.we dominated the game. he had been doing that every game and that was his 10th win. communication is key here guys. hes probably legendary by now.

Kuya.6495:

A dh can put up a formidable fight against a war, but the problem is if the warrior takes signet of might the dh has to be very very careful not to get hit by any of the big gs skills or otherwise it’s gg. And i don’t think there’s anything honestly wrong with that. It makes it for an exciting fight and you gotta pay attention to what the war is doing. I think the problem with warrior is mostly the double endure pain.

DH is really the only reason warriors are running signet of might at all. its a utility designed to counter 1 specific class. you dodge for 6 seconds and its almost like magic no more signet of might. i know you would rather nerf a class than try to get better at the game. but go try to play warrior for a bit IN HIGH TIER PLAY. its a noob stomper. landing headbutt on skilled players is not easy.

kakumbien.8047:

Ross Biddle.2367:

Heavy direct damage will burn a meta warrior down (force both endure pain procs). That’s 8 or 10 seconds of endure pain depending on if stances are traited or not. After that you have one shield block to work around (3 seconds) which can be ignored with unblockables. If you do this with range you can neuter kite and never suffer his melee.

Most META warriors are running cleansing ire. So with solid direct damage build, and an unblockable, you can work through a warrior after 8 seconds of direct damage immunity.

And this is hard for you?

Maybe get off the healbot eles and bring a counter to get the job done. Then you’ll be laughing instead of crying.

Have you ever tried to fight against a warrior on point with ranger/thief / necro / revenant / ele ? Let me guess , you didn’t . Because staying on point with these classes is almost impossible in the melee range of warrior . You can’t kite enough in 1v1 because you ll lose the point . Warrior is direct counter to lots of builds and classes no matter what build warrior thanks to just defense traitline . It does too much for just 1 traitline.

rant incoming====
i have with everything but a ele. necro and thief ill agree had issues. but thief is not a 1v1 class and warrior counters necro hard. revenant laughs hard as hell at warrior with all its evades. ranger just heals through it and cleanses the condis. learn to outplay. stop pretending its so hard. ROM has beat tons of warriors. so has sindrener and helseth. kiting doesnt mean you have to run around the map. you can kite on a point with correct dodges.your stating things under the assumption you have no skills or dodges yourself and you deserve to win. its very obvious when a warrior is going to skull grinder you. and after the first one you can count the rest exactly when hes going to do it. its easily possible to dodge every single skull grinder. i guess youve never bothered to read other classes traitlines. just as bad. how about you go watch some streamers videos of your main class and see how its done. also you should think of what its going to be like if you nerf warriors into the ground lets not make a class unplayable.

Ross Biddle.2367:

Emdrix.6124:

I just want the dmg nerfs reverted.

someone kills a few golems with revenant “ZOMG ANET PLS NERF TOO OP”

Crinn.7864:

alemfi.5107:

Basically this. Only reason mace is being used is because of the skill being complained about, the rest of the weapon is pretty lackluster.

Except the block, and the instant daze.

The only thing “lackluster” about mace is the auto.

you mean the block that is insanely short? 1 word. cc break. lets get real. the only reason warrior isnt in ESL is because its a noob stomper. everything it does is easily telegraphed and can be dodged everytime. if you lose to warrior constantly. please just get good. stop blaming everything else for your own shortcomings.if you dont like endure pain kite it or use condis. you dont like 20 seconds of resistance? corrupt it or kite it. or better yet apply so much condi while hes using it that when its down he insta dies. i do it all the time to counter other warriors who dont understand resistance isnt a cleanse. warriors post hot were pretty bad before they beefed up their sustain.