Guild Wars 2

Huskyboy.1053:

If you really think it’s that OP then go play it yourself.

this isnt really a argument. i dont think its op. but if you look at matchmaking theres 3+ dh every game. people are going to play them since they think they are op. and every one comes back saying its so easy they shouldve switched long ago.

Orangensaft.7139:

that means if you layed one trap and heal trap too maybe and it didnt get triggered and fight moves to other point you cannot use your traps and your heal at all anymore for the rest of the game if noone happens to trigger those first ones ?

Thats such a stupid idea and i dont think you even thought further than just “NURF DH TRAPS”

What Anet could instead do is just make traps not last forever but only for ~30 seconds
That hurts those guards who just go on a point and place all traps on it and wait for people to walk in
It would punish that lazy passive trap play and instead force people to use traps actively

im not all pro nerf dh. in fact i find them quite ez to kill once i played one for a bit. realized most are trash. but you COULD just have the button able to instantly set them off on your own. for a reduced cooldown.

Saiyan.1704:

JayAction.9056:

you can literally evade/block/LOS most of their skills and they place these instant cast traps and boom ~90% hp gone.

It’s actually quite easy to instagib someone on DH or +1, but you don’t see that happen as often as could be because even at legend in s1-s4 it was quite obvious that most DH are horrible.

For instance how often do you see a DH use traps to prevent a res? Rarely, if ever…

I guess i’m that 1% of the DH population who can do what’s deemed uncommon to you. I beg the question though… what trap in the game that causes 90% health gone? I mean, you’d have to get hit with literally 4 traps+additional dps for that scenario to happen.

Had a full trap DH insta die to 2 guys on point today. I had the time to type, “lol, full trap dh?” Before I fought the 2 guys and won the 1v2 fight.

People complain about full trap DH… Literally every single class in the game can counter it.. I just can’t fathom how people are having issues.

well they are probably either talking about multiple dh’s or they got comboed by a dh placing a trap pulling them into it knocking them out with longbow 3 and using longbow 2 to finish them off. any class should die (assuming they just stand and take it no dodging) or a mesmer who would die really quick if they missed their blocks and invulns.

SuperduperMLGbsns.9345:

SteepledHat.1345:

They won’t be missed.

This. Exactly this.
Still wonder why anet refused to nerf Unrelenting Assault, that has an unlimited gap closer range and can follow a Mesmer thru a portal over a 4000+ range effortlessly.
Worst balanced class ingame when it comes to the mechanic. Still.

comments like this have proven to me that no one on the forums actually wants balance. they just want their classes buffed and others classes nerfed.

SeranusGaming.7362:

I must be missing something as I play a power-minion master using dagger/warhorn with a staff and thus far, it’s working very well. I even got mocked for playing a carried build. The constant swiftness combined with all the blinds, fears, and hard CC have just destroyed people. Perhaps I just get lucky.

i went against a necro the other day that feared me 5 times in a row. of course he 1 rotated me

Patrick.2987:

Rev should lose almost every 1v1 like thief cause it is a +1 profession. That is why it has high mobility. It was also a better pick than thief cause it has amazing sustain on top of it. Being able to kill druids 1v1 for example shows how broken this profession was. The banned class stacking is a result of revenant aswell. Good sustain, high mobility, high damage and boonoutput for team on top of one of the best cleave and cc.

funny enough im not sure how anyone thinks the revs heal is a heal. the second they stop dodging and usually just stand still trying to make it easy for you to deal damage. so when they stop i stop. its by far the worst heal ingame against competant players. the main class whos going to be affected by this is necro and DH as they cant just stop doing damage.

Konakona.4130:

OP is probably didn’t give that post much though because idk how do you suppose to prevent that. Disable pre-match swapping? that’s stupid, any competitive game allows that, especially in soloQ it is a must. Disable class stacking on matchmaking stage? Queues will take hours then at any tier, that’s stupid.

Learn to play pls, learn to win and learn to lose.

i know nothing about programming all i ask is that if 4 thief’s que put 2 on each team. instead of all 4 on one side. if people want to switch so they can have 5 thief’s on team you cant stop that. but you can prevent the flawed system from doing it.

Cynz.9437:

sophiewhite.3149:

Zintrothen.1056:

It won’t be countered any worse than it already is though. But this is a very nice amulet for them so you’re right that there’ll be more of them.

the only counter ive seen that works is high damaging aoe usually condi (necro does well here with staff) my warrior struggles to no end to just land a single cc and i have a ton of them. when their cooldowns are burned they just dodge away and hide until they are back up (which are really short) and yes im timing everything to try and land in the single frame you have open.

Do you know how frustrating (or rather near impossible) it is to fight warriors on power thief? Yeahhhh…… get the taste of own medicine. Condi thief is still way easier to kill than condi war – 1 CC murders them.

Frankly, i would be more worried about other condi classes using this amy.

actually i do. do you know what every thief has told me since day 1? thief is not a 1v1 class. its a team player unless you go staff. if you go staff youll eat warriors for lunch.i might main warrior but i play thief revenant necro and lately a little bit of druid (though i suck bad) today i decided to try staff thief instead of dagger pistol. assuming my aim is good and i land hits they die in a couple. endure pain goes up and i avoid them until its down and dps hard. perma evade condi thief is cancer. skullgrinder is op as kitten. but so is every class atm. theres a reason we arent in ESL.

Zintrothen.1056:

It won’t be countered any worse than it already is though. But this is a very nice amulet for them so you’re right that there’ll be more of them.

the only counter ive seen that works is high damaging aoe usually condi (necro does well here with staff) my warrior struggles to no end to just land a single cc and i have a ton of them. when their cooldowns are burned they just dodge away and hide until they are back up (which are really short) and yes im timing everything to try and land in the single frame you have open.

Hamfast.8719:

Here’s a screen shot from tonight’s Tequatl. This is getting pretty commonplace. It doesn’t help that this particular chest makes you stand real close in order to collect from it.

To make matters worse, someone’s Job-O-Tron backpack was yakking all during the fight. Please, ANet. I’m here to fight dragons, not trolls.

the aviatar box is the worst imo. not only does it make me mis click but if i dont immediately leave the zone i get to hear a 3 year old play airplane for a hour.

jewishjoyride.4693:

sophiewhite.3149:

jewishjoyride.4693:

Power rev will still be meta. Condi rev may or may not be.

Not much else to say.

from what theyve shown with necro and now revenant. they try to make kittenty builds good by nerfing the good builds. so this wont be the only nerf. is also like to know what staff brings. seeing as sotm was the only thing mildy useful on it. staff needs a buff now.

Not sure what you’re talking about as Necro/Reaper has a pretty wide range of builds you can queue and win with.

Your statement about staff shows a pretty strong lack of understanding of how staff works, and how it synergizes with the rest of the build.

sorry was referring to recent pve balance changes. ik ik different team same stance. this patch was supposed to be minor to “shake things up”. but please explain how staff synergizes well with the rest of the build. id love to know. all i know is its auto sucks staff 2 3 and 4 all suck. only redeeming quality is staff 5.

jewishjoyride.4693:

Power rev will still be meta. Condi rev may or may not be.

Not much else to say.

from what theyve shown with necro and now revenant. they try to make kittenty builds good by nerfing the good builds. so this wont be the only nerf. is also like to know what staff brings. seeing as sotm was the only thing mildy useful on it. staff needs a buff now.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

BeLZedaR.4790:

you pay 2x the cost to actually craft the item in addition to the daily gated pages. It should be drastically reduced.

This is intentional — the vendor offers an alternative for those unwilling to craft; it’s not meant to be a substitute path for the rest of us.

BeLZedaR.4790:

I get many many many boots or shoulders ascended chests and nothing else. All it does is stack up chests in my bank with no way for me to actually complete a set.

This is consistent with drop rates for the rest of the game. I find it amusing more than frustrating. Still, it would be nice if you could turn in e.g. 3 boots for one set of leggings or something like that.

In the meantime, I tend to outfit other toons with the boot/shoulder/gloves, since some ascended is better than none.

BeLZedaR.4790:

I don’t see a reason to limit stats from fractal chests to not include HoT stats such as viper’s or commander’s that are integral for some builds to work, forcing you to play sub-optimally till you’re an adept raider that can get these from magnetite shards.

Raids are only available to HoT owners, while Fractals can be managed by anyone. With the recent changes to infusions, there are no longer any important barriers to someone reaching AR150.

For better or worse, it remains ANet’s intention to limit HoT stats to HoT owners. Since owners can easily convert any ascended gear to HoT stats, this doesn’t seem like much of an inconvenience.

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tl;dr it would be nice if it were easier to acquire torso & leg pieces; I think we can live without it for now.

i would like to note that anet said they were looking into making hot stats available through fractals but only to HOT owners. sadly thats not a easy thing to do.

i understand we cant do 1 class per team as that would cause issues. what i ask for is when you run into a match and your team gets 4 necros and the other side has none. thats stupid. you couldve split 2 and 2 and been fine. but you didnt. same with any class but specifically thief’s ele’s and necro’s are noticable because they are horrible if stacked.

Gryphon.2875:

Well, let’s see. We were present when the Bloodstone exploded.
We actively hunt creatures and “blood-crazed” people for their unbound magic, to “store” it.
We mine bloodstone crystal nodes for dust and rubies.
Some of us have glowing red eyes from hunting shards and creatures.

No, we’re not blood-crazed… everyone else is…
Need… more…. rubies…..

O_O

wow youve convinced me

BlackBeard.2873:

sophiewhite.3149:

Zintrothen.1056:

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For all those complaining that power Rev will no longer be viable, awesome!

for this statement alone im looking forward to your classes being nerfed too hard.

Honestly, I don’t want ANY class to be nerfed too hard. I know what that is like (Ele circa winter 2013) – it isn’t fun and causes people to leave the game.

However, Rev had some extremely OP aspects that needed to nerfed. It may need subsequent buffs to counteract some of its weaknesses (like condi), but its hard to know before seeing the impact of nerfing the OP stuff. I would hope if they are a little UP, they get some buffs (in other places, like sustained damage) in the next patch. However, a class can’t be buffed reasonably without first getting rid of something OP if that is the main thing carrying it.

From the extremely reasonable responses of Cal (who actually seems to have a clue about roles and holes), I would have more hope going forward. Good to see.

yes rev needed nerfing. what i have a problem with is the 50% part. thats a ridiculously high number. its how you turn classes into being useless. you do small changes but lots of them and see how they do . its called tweaking. this is bulldozing. rip staff on rev. thats the only use it had. if they want condi to be viable they should buff condi. nerfing power doesnt make condi viable.

Zintrothen.1056:

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For all those complaining that power Rev will no longer be viable, awesome!

for this statement alone im looking forward to your classes being nerfed too hard.

Arcane.1526:

Assuming that you use the added fractal relics from boss chests to be optimal and buy Large Mists Potions for T4 fractals and only really considered the 225 from pristine fractal relic conversions, it would take approximately 2.5 months.

You could probably shave half a month off or more if you never used your chest relics to buy potions.

225 * 80 Days = 18,000 relics

thanks a ton. i have the defensive one all thats left is offensive and mobility

has anyone done the math on this? could be useful for anyone trying. im just curious personally. assuming you didnt get any special drops giving you more and only did dailys.

Iain Ross.6903:

sophiewhite.3149:

deffinetly not revenant. really any class besides revenant.

rev will remain meta, even without the probable compensation as this is just a preview. Don’t be stupid.

the compensation is nothing. its a build no one runs. they are trying to make one build viable by making another kitten. instead of fixing the problems with the actual build. rev needed a nerf. not like this. rev was already weak to condis and all they had was pure power. every trait was meant to increase damage. why do you think that is?

deffinetly not revenant. really any class besides revenant.

Hyper Cutter.9376:

sophiewhite.3149:

so the op thinks anet controls the tp right?

They literally based how much it takes to craft a given precursor on how much it was going for on the TP at the time. That’s why the resources required vary so wildly (by an order of magnitude or more) between weapons instead of hewing to the usual 2H/1H/OH rules as literally everywhere else in the game.

and the market is constantly changing. some precursors sold for more some for less. supply and demand. unless they made them free it would be impossible to keep it the way YOU want it while not crashing the market entirely. and if it was free there would be no market at all.

so the op thinks anet controls the tp right?

you should check out the dreamer. 350 gold to buy and like 800 to craft. but hey thats not anets choice. the market decided its price. its not very popular.

Mapisto.2154:

The majority of us are level 80 and playing end-game content.. I don’t think any of us find the loads of blue/green gear useful.

im sorry but WHAT? you have no use for leather or wood or ore of any kind? what game are you playing?

nagr.1593:

DresdenAllblack.1249:

So let me add, I play Warrior, and I can only concentrate on my own DPS.

One question for any Warriors on here, in Stage 1 when we have pinned near the speed mushroom should I at any point use Bladetrail? I’m thinking no, but well I’m obviousily not sure. Also, someone explain to me what good the banners do after the split when we’re pulling him in a circle. Somehow chaos always ensues, so even the best laid plans (banners) are probably being missed by our party.

You shouldn’t be concentrating only on DPS but watch out also for blues and CC when needed. Bladetrail is only used when boss not against wall, otherwise it’s a dps loss. If your stacking on wall and he’s near edge, don’t use bladetrail.. just cut that out of ur rotations.

Banners when boss is mobile is an issue, I just put em most times in the nearest colored area (unsafe zone) from where u start. You could also put em right in the center, if u coordinate with ur tank a priori and he agrees to kite boss within the innermost concentric circle, thus guaranteeing entire pt would get the most out of banners the whole while they are up.

sophiewhite.3149:

the main skill is auto attack banners and hundred blades.

If your definition of rotations for war is ‘spam hb and aa’ then ur doing something seriously wrong. This is a watered down version where it’s somthin comparable to Rev rotation maybe only there’s the distinction, war is not have same mechanics as rev.

It’s like those terribad players who’re so awful they somehow struggle to play a simple class like war. The role of ps has been advocated by many as being ‘braindead’, then what is the term for players who have trouble with the class mechanics, such as understanding the role itself and how mechanics work?

In a sab group once I came across a pair of outstandingly useless wars who didn’t know what their role was. Stacking with rest of grp, mindless aa drone dps, and refusing to listen or change their behaviors despite repeated advice is like an affront to ur class. Me and another dude got so fed up with it after we realised the wars were determined to be useless, that we both insta left over that. I even give them a caustic shout out before I also dipped. L2p war community..

im not telling him not to use other skills. but those are the important ones you need to keep full uptime on. this is not quantify. this is a casual group. he doesnt need to be attempting to do max dps and killing himself not paying attention to mechanics because of it. its VG not mattias. the important thing for a warrior is to keep their might stacks and banners up and try to dps while doing it. but the main dps source will always be other classes.

DresdenAllblack.1249:

Thanks people.

So it is still a mechanics issue, as we still get ported a half dozen times before he enrages. Also I would say we haven’t discovered a great solution to seeker clears.

have a gaurdian using hammer for knockback. mesmers using their pull and druids using glyph of tides to push them back as a warrior you dont really use bladetrail all that much. at least its not entirely important for you to. the main skill is auto attack banners and hundred blades.

ive done it. got the defensive potion working on the rest atm. mainly play condi druid. NA

Emdrix.6124:

Malediktus.9250:

BlaqueFyre.5678:

Just another QQ post from Malediktus on mobility because he mains Necro…. nothing to see

Not really, I got 10k hours on guardian and played mainly palyed druid in 3 of 4 seasons. I barely play Necro because it is unplayable in soloQ

Look at my screenshot, the pie diagram proves that I have not really a main class in pvp.

Also nice 49% win ratio lmao

lets see yours. i guarantee you wont post it.

Evan Lesh.3295:

Crise.9401:

Evan Lesh.3295:

New about season 5 is coming very Soon™!

Here I am trying to decide whether you forgot an entire word or just a letter, but waiting for both news and new info all the same :P.

One letter -_-

ignore the haters. WOOT WOOT

Gwaihir.1745:

Ive been playing a lot of classes lately, thief, ele, warrior to name a few. Traps hit so weakly now that barring dragons maw I can facetank the hits long enough to walk out of them without dodging. I could probably backpedal out on anything but my dd who would have to pop his ever handy 15s cd block.

if a dh is only kill you with traps your bad. the main thing a DH can do is cc the living hell out of you so his teammates can kill you easily. and believe me they have tons of access to it.

its funny that your all still complaining DH is getting a nerf next balance patch. they said that in the previous one.

Soothsayer.9206:

Kuya.6495:

Seen plenty of matches where the team with 3 dh fails miserably. It looks like the op is just complaining because dh generally counter mesmers. If it were a mesmer daily, you’d see more people such as power revs whine about class stacking.

I’ve seen plenty of matches where 3 of anything (including DH) rolls another team too, not particularly a good argument. Played a match Monday night where I was 1 of 3 Mesmers (along with 1 Druid and 1 Thief); didn’t go well for the other team. Just because DH generally counters Mesmer doesn’t mean OP cannot point out the fact that stacking is, in their opinion, bad and just used that as an example.

Personally speaking, I think sPvP community complains entirely too much and mostly about worthless things instead of just enjoying the game (yes, its not perfect but its really good imho and I am okay with it being a work in progress). Besides, can anyone name another type of competitive anything where you get to pick your opponent, or field of play, or composition of enemy, and even some times, your own team? I have played all sorts of sports on all sorts of teams, my job is to give it my all with whatever role I am assigned by my coaches/staff. I have been on plenty of good teams, and some poor ones as well, but never have I met so many so called “competitors” that whine as much as we do in sPvP.

the amount of spam when you get 3 or more mesmers. full portal uptime and kittentons of clones everywhere. i was on a team that got stomped because of it. i couldnt cleave the clones down and none of my team had builds that could do it either.and cleaving clones is the only way to kill a mesmer for me. no other way works. thats why condi warrior sucks so bad against them. gotta go power.

how many here against the dps meters actually raid? i want to know. and i dont mean “well i raided once with my guild” i mean within the last 2 weeks killed more than 1 boss.

Cakemeister.5792:

Question: don’t the enemies in higher fractals have greatly increased toughness? So wouldn’t a condition damage 9/5 have a bigger effect?

no they got rid of that because condi necro became the meta.

people in raids are using dps meters as we speak. all the top guilds use them. any serious raid guild uses them. and uses them with pugs. tbh the only time ive seen it is when they try to help people get better. basically theres a lot of terrible players being carried by groups constantly. or causing them to fail because they are so bad. but they are good enough you cant tell their rotations are trash. so they go unoticed.

heres a website that does the math for you. it always goes back to 49-53 http://silverwastes.loltools.net/

wrathmagik.3518:

sophiewhite.3149:

wrathmagik.3518:

sophiewhite.3149:

its part of the game. it gives you something worth it to work towards.

No its not “part of the game”. its basic feature that every MMO has that anet has not made ‘part of the game’ unless you GRIND for it.

you basically want to remove progression because your impatient? this is a great time to start practicing it.

I’m not sure if your nieve or trolling, but an auto-loot feature is not PROGRESSION.
Its a BASIC feature in every game that anet has locked behind GRIND.

Thats like callling the hang up/end call feature on your cell phone progression where you have to make 800,000 phone calls before they allow you have that feature.

no mastery’s are progression. autoloot is a reward for reaching a milestone in progression. you seem to think just because other mmo’s have it automatically so should GW2 well gw2 isnt other games.

its part of the game. it gives you something worth it to work towards.

Exciton.8942:

Ecto maybe?
Since AB multiloot will ultimately get nerfed, you would expect ecto price to slowly rise back. You probably won’t earn a lot but it should be safe investment.

its going to take a solid 3 months or more after the nerf to drown out ectos. since we have warning everyone and their mother is saving them.

auric basin multi loot or silverwastes event farm

sexuallegend.2153:

LMAO DH doesn’t lose to any class? Oh man what a comical statement that is. Sorry OP, but I’ve literally taken on 2 Trap DH’s at the same time. The fight ended with my stomp anim playing above both of their bodies. If you want to learn how to defeat a DH, try watching episode 1 of Best Player, it’s linked in my signature.

every player you killed couldnt come close to matching your skill dude.

Gaaroth.2567:

sophiewhite.3149:

Astralporing.1957:

sophiewhite.3149:

reikken.4961:

it’s very good design.
ensures you always have something to work towards without massive powercreeping

honestly the stat boost is so tiny its not worth it.

I remember when people were saying the same about ascended gear.

from what i hear its like 200 power or something. thats nothing. ascended gear gives way more boosts.

Well, a food stack is lower than that, is not necessary, but is a nice help.
So yeah, is not game-changing, but if you haven’t anything to spend on, might just improve your stats

food costs about 2 gold. vs 150 gold per.sure if you have nothing to spend it on its fine. or anet could actually make it a worthwhile thing and people might go for them. a new gear gold sink. win win imo. or lower the cost. but id prefer the better gear personally.

Inoki.6048:

This mechanic (chests and keys) should be banned from games because it heavily supports gambling.

The likelihood of you ever getting something valuable is below 1%.

If you have a “spending” problem you can easily end up broke and angry.

seems like the perfect place to practice self control and patience.

Astralporing.1957:

sophiewhite.3149:

reikken.4961:

it’s very good design.
ensures you always have something to work towards without massive powercreeping

honestly the stat boost is so tiny its not worth it.

I remember when people were saying the same about ascended gear.

from what i hear its like 200 power or something. thats nothing. ascended gear gives way more boosts.

reikken.4961:

it’s very good design.
ensures you always have something to work towards without massive powercreeping

honestly the stat boost is so tiny its not worth it.

NovaanVerdiano.6174:

sophiewhite.3149:

Sublimatio.6981:

sophiewhite.3149:

you are ridiculous, go actually play a necro. i dare you to solo lupicus without sacrificing anything to do so

i do play necro. daily. im done with you. youve proven you only want a OP class so you can faceroll raids solo. bye

LOL
nice joke

Subli is absolutely right. The fact that you react like this shows that you have no idea about necro.
And also, you say “necro has plenty of HP so they should be weaker” yet you have warriors which can bring more DPS (even if just slightly so), have the same base HP, heavy armor and plenty of defensive options, if they wish to bring them. On top of that, they are capable of increasing group DPS by ridiculous amounts through various means just by… well, doing their thing. How again is the spot necro is in justified?

my warrior has shroud? NO WAY!!!!! i guess youll just ignore me everytime i say necro deserves a buff huh? just goes right over your head. ive said it in every post so far. but it does not deserve damage on par with eles.

Velimere.7685:

sophiewhite.3149:

source for every single claim you just made please. then ill believe you.

Got any sources for any of the falsifications that you’ve personally spouted in this topic?

you mean the 1 post i made saying moa is impossible to dodge with skill just luck? go watch a video of moa being casted. you get about .1 of a second with a signet above their head and moaed instantly. mesmer love to defend it because its cheese as all hell.

Blaeys.3102:

Taco doesn’t offer any of the more toxic tools from WoW raiding addons, such as dps meters, the ability to look at other people’s builds/gear or flashing warnings about raid boss mechanics.

Mainly it just adds markers to the map and provides timers for world bosses. It actually strikes a nice balance.

it does flash warnings about raiding boss mechanics. but only ones that are on timers and never change. like sabetha.