Guild Wars 2

oooh. wait, what about a trait that causes chill on burned targets? or is that too OP? lol i am thinking something along the lines or dry ice. and how it can give that feeling of burning. scorching ice. chilling flames. searing permafrost. what have you.

maybe it could be chill for X seconds on each application of burn. and since we have such reliable ways of aplpying burns, maybe there could be a CD as well.

though again, condi damage doesn’t affect chill. ://

pretty nice build! and can more than appreciate the constructive and positive (but not blindly) posts in here. here, here , Guardians!

i took a build similar (trait wise) to this into WvW when the big “balance” patch first dropped. took Scepter power for 20 in Zeal instead since i was running sword + scepter. tbh, i was kind of lost how to approach the Valor line lol since usually it’s all of nothing for me. i think i went with strength in numbers instead since i was running in a small group.

definitely a LOT of damage and really fun. though i was hanging back a lot more with scepter and used sword to cut into stragglers or people that were low. surprisingly sustainable since i didn’t really spec or gear or have consumables for any type of sustain lol. it was more of a test run and i might go back to it one of these days.

wait, lol, really? so if i want to block for 3s instead, i can cast PS, keep hopping and it won’t trigger the explosion, AS LONG AS i am in the air while blocking?

XDD

i played a 25/10/0/30/5 or 25/15/0/30/0 build for a while in WvW. stacking healing power as well for the sustain. i’d imagine if you’re “good enough” you could do without healing gear. but even then, the damage i was packing with the symbols was really strong. in group play, hammer was more suited since i was able to more reliably drop the symbol on hammer with more enemies around. in 1v1 or 1v2’s, GS shines more even with a shorter uptmie on the GS symbol. and obviously, i’ll switch to zealous blade. if not, i will be running focused mastery since my secondary set is mace/focus.

and i really don’t think mace hits soft at all. of course scepter hits harder than mace. but if it’s symbols you want, mace is easily one of the best choices. like otehrs have mentioned, being able to drop double symbols on an enemy and you can Row (hammer) or binding blades (GS) enemies into them for just a tad bit longer. an extra tick or so could make all the difference sometimes.

does sanctuary trap people? i thought even if traited and you throw it down on someone, it just knocks them back?

one of the best uses i’ve found is definitely useful with consecrated ground for saving an ally from being stomped!

saw this on reddit and definitely intrigued in trying it. sounds amazing and i do quite enjoy consecrations quite a bit. agreed, will probs have to get used to not having a ton of vigor and the handy stunbreaks, although makes for some fun gameplay i am sure. and will just “force” one to practice more and not rely on certain mechanics – which helps make a player grow imo!

and i guess if you keep purging flames for most fights, for Guards who plan to use this, might be useful to let your party members know they can cleanse more than one condition if they walk in and out, yes? and if they actually adhere to that or can pull it off, that’s up to themselves.

ran around BGBL last night taking camps from BG and TC with a few dear friends. too much fun! i usually don’t pay enough attention to tags, but a few worthy mentions – [MERC], alway yours sincerely, [BT], [RE], and then some. had North camp a few times but the BG crew respond quickly. ; )) good times and good fights, BG and TC! especially the small group fights. always more personal than the bigger fights. /salute

also, iirc i think it was Saturday Oceanic night time i glitched under ground on the cliffs above the watergate defending Garri. initially i just thought it was a camera angle issue so i kept “fighting” for a bit and i stomped someone in that short duration. for that i apologize and apologize again. : (( took me long enough to realized i was underground XPP so i walked off to the very edge of the cliff, away from battle and waited to be out of combat to WP. nothing else worked and was missing a fun fight : (((

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haha so over the weekend, and with MF daily back in the rotation at least one day, i tested my luck with the stones. so far, nothing yet. got a few named though, so that’s always nice. lol

gonna keep testing. ; ))) keep going OP!

but there is combat linked to it. you can’t spam arrows – sure ways to make sure you get spots, use camo kit, get in a spot where no one suspects and “snipe”, hunt those who are hunting others or picking up rations.

and you HAVE to be extremely aware of your surroundings – non stop camera panning and looking behind me for one.

i didn’t think i’d enjoy this game, but it’s pretty darn fun and i usually don’t enjoy the mini-games.

and regarding content updates – do remember, there is no official subscription fee. i know there is a trend heading towards it, but we are still playing a B2P game and ANet’s been delivering a LOT from my perspective. : )) come August 6 i’m sure you’ll find plenty that you’ll enjoy.

gotta love Evon.
all my remaining votes are going to him tonight!

Aspect Arena wasn’t bad tbh. but Southun definitely way more entertaining and satisfying.

but i LOVE OmnomnivoreD

as a TINY buffer, and if you have the laurels to spare, i got myself zerker ammy, accessories and back (via fractals), and then for rings i got the zerker + valkyrie (vit) rings. they don’t add a whole lot, but helps me stay relatively balanced. i know many will think that’s a waste but they work for me. i will eventually get full zerker rings as well when i start doing more fractals but i like having that small balance there. (and in a sense, they’re like valkyrie to me, but just a teeny bit of vit)

^^ it looks as if he opened the glorious wonderous blue bag of goodies. : ))
see far right second row of 1st pic.

ah, right. well then, sir, good luck to you!
keep us updated. ; ))

Tajz.9826:

One day we really want to see SoR say Good game BG you fought well something like that after the match for sake of sportsmanship. You guys better pay more respect to your opponent rather than to think that they’re movable loot bags.

ask and ye shall receive. :PP

Fannwong.3059:

This might be a bit early but congrats to BG for the win. Much respect to BG Oceanic and SEA folks, great pushes.

FW

/takes off SoR spiky horned heavy helm

everyone on here just needs to take ownership for their own words. writers – if you write something, you own up to it. and though your words are your own, whatever you say will inevitably reflect on your guild, AND server. it’s one thing to be proud, but another to be completely disrespectful to other servers as well as people on the same server as you.

this may seem contradictory, but readers – now you must also understand what one person says, even if they claim to represent the server, it’s still that one person’s words and belongs to no one but them, themself and their avatar. if you ever find yourself offended by any words from a given individual or guild, take it up with them, personally, in private.

from what i’ve read, it seems the thread was off to a good start. better than before, so i’m relatively proud of you folk. ; ))) we can’t be perfect, but hey.

now i hereby command the only times we are allowed to refer our opponents as a server in its entirety, is when we can openly respect them. give them credit where credit is due. and HUGS. you can give each other’s server as many hugs as you want.

/puts SoR SoR spiky horned heavy helm back on

sometimes, i don’t know why i keep bothering. but i just do.

Owlette looks like an owl!D

also one thing i THINK not many people have mentioned they’ve stated:

if you qualify for loot rewards on that boss when it is killed

i’m assuming this is as simple as either account/character bound, once per day? similar to existing world boss loot mechanics.

any other ideas? or if it’s been disclosed in detail elsewhere and i missed it, well, ooops. XDD

you’re stacking about ~50% crit chance right now, and although you will lose another 5 if you switch out accuracy for force, it’s still decent crit chance in my mind. so instead of taking Inner Fire, might i suggest taking a look at Blind Exposure as well? you can easily stack even with just sword focus and F1, throw in a GS and you’re even more golden. though, personal preference. i love that trait and if you happen to be in small skirmishes, vuln on any target adds dps not just to you, but all your allies. that being said, fury is always nice to have and the more crit chance, the more dps and procs.

i quite like hydromancy on either GS or sword, since our hard hitting skills like Whirling Wrath (GS2) and Zealot’s Defense (Sword 3) imo are relatively easy to dodge out and not eat the full brunt of. where having hydromancy helps give you thet little extra edge or half a second to have them eat up a few more hits.

if you’re going with hammer, Intelligence on the hammer is quite nice too actually in a bursty build. start with a similar rotation, Shield of Wrath for starters, i like firing focus 4 if i am in range, then JI in, and now that you’re in combat, switch to hammer and mighty blow for 100% crit on a massively hard hitting skill. that and Shield of Wrath going off does a lot of initial damage. though, you’d miss out on the RoW+JI combo. just a thought. and you wouldn’t be able to switch back immediately to sword for more burst with ZD, etc. at least, this is my understanding for how Intelligence works, that you must be in combat, then switch to it for it to take effect.

and just a quick note on sigils just in case, if you’re going with on-swap sigils on one weapon set, i’d recommend sticking to on-swap on your other set. likewise for on-crits since they share the same CD’s and when i play with on-swap, i sort of like knowing that i can rely on the effect going off when i swap weps. : ))

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that’s a great guide right there to start with. most of the concepts or builds apply to regular dungeons as well. depending your group, you can always go “anchor” or “dps”. mix and match your utilities depending on the situation, adjusting for difficulty level, group comp, group wide traits/buffs (to ensure no overlapping or “wasted” traits or spec for AoE condition cleansing if needed), etc.

always makes me sadfacequaggan whenever we get to play against TC and i have to miss the dolyak parade. : ((

would there happen to be a dolyak parade during SEA time?

good stuff here!

looknig forward to geting back into tPvP, especially with these changes!

o snap, for some reason… it never occurred to me that you could use dungeon exotics to throw into the MF. :///

and grats, OP!

wait i might have missed something, wouldn’t you have had enough gold, or at least CLOSE to enough gold to buy Dusk outright? or are you bent on getting it via the MF?

wait.. so what’s going on now?

i personally would love more hybrid condition Guardian. i know some folk on here have been running some, and even on youtube, in WvW/PvP with success. again, i’m still tryign to work on one and previously i played a build with full Radiance and full Virtues to make sure of your burning traits, condition damage, as well as using one handed weapons for the fast burnign procs / RHS for added crit chance. damage wise it was great, it was more the sustainability of the build that had issues. at the same time, though speccing heavily for condition damage and trying to find a balance between that and raw power, if i was faced up against 1 or 2 foes, i wouldn’t be able to apply enough pressure to that my lack of sustainability was not an issue.

again, if we were to spec for a hybrid condi build, we wouldn’t get the burst builds. nor would we be able to be completely bunker. we can never have all, and perhaps some people would greatly enjoy playing a build of attrition and not just through burning or retal. it’s like what Bash just said, allowing us to deal with kiting classes in more ways than one.

not saying that we’re unable to do so at the right moment, but you do need to ahve certain builds or weapons to readily deal with classes that remain out of our range most of the fight. so adding viable conditions wouldn’t hurt i don’t think.

personally, i would still LOVE to see more chill incorproated into our traits. over torment or bleeds. which adds to our arsenal where we really lack some soft CC. and i am slightly because i am a Norn Guard, and snow. lol. though Chill doesn’t do “condition damage” per se, so in this case, it doesn’t directly relate to the Radiance line as you’d want to be more focused on duration for an effect like chill or cripple.

hmmm.

the new Braham’s armor is definitely light looking, save the helm and the shoulders. or the gloves and boots lol. the chest and pants though are all cloth and fur like.

and go to the PvP locked in the Heart of the Mists to check out most, if not all, armor combinations and you can play barbie/ken as much as you want! you can also use dyes iirc.

and you always have the options to hide Helm and Shoulders as well

i’ll say the HotW chest may even look decent as well for being “light”.

nice, foofad, great initiative! and awesome being stickied so fast.

TehPwnerer.7215:

It makes it even worse than them being reskinned. They have better affects than the HoM one which has laughable effects at best. And they’ve pretty much flat out confirmed they aren’t updating existing HoM skins. So cool, great, awesome. The new skins have great particle affects while the “OG” one has no visual affect that compares to the concept art and it looks plain as all hell. Not happy.
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did they state WHY they would never update the existing HoM skins? so i’ve just learnt that they ahve a lot of clipping issues as well. i don’t see any reason why even that can’t be fixed. though we’re going into different territory now.

okay, so you mentioned the new skins seemingly have great particle effects. there may be some people who enjoy more “plain” items however, so on that note, to each their own. though i also know that the OG Fellblade’s effects were much greater than what we see currently in gw2. and i guess we can all say, we know how far ANet can go with particle effets.

: (((

Jovel.5706:

To answer your first question, in my personal opinion if they’re going to use the HoM weapon/armor models to make obtainable versions in GW2 they need to make sure the HoM armor skins don’t have annoying clipping issues that have been around since release and that the HoM weapon skins have the same amount of work put into …

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What’s the point of all that work for the HoM weapons if they’re going to be left behind visually compared to their GW2 counterparts? Why release a version of the Icelord’s Diadem that doesn’t clip when the HoM one is RUINED by most of the hairstyles from any gender and race in the game? Why do the pieces in the light HoM armor clip with each other slightly? That’s almost as bad as T3 cultural armor that clips on the intended races, it’s outrageous. Why do Sylvari get oversized shoulder pieces in the medium HoM set? Why are the shoulders of the heavy HoM set floating almost a foot off my Norn’s shoulder?

thanks for the very elaborate answer. i have heard that the OG Fellbalde in gw1 was tenfold better than the rendition we have here in gw2. i’ve also only read that gw1 players were promised a lot when they announced gw2. so though i can’t entirely comprehend and i won’t lie and say i know how you feel, but i can see where you’re coming from. i would like to have seen the HoM rewards all live up to the gw1 loyal vets’ expectations. though, from my point of view, if i see HoM reward skins or titles, i’m still in awe and i know that there someone in front of me is a gw vet. they’ve been around way longer than i could ever imagine to me.

so in a sense, if you will, it’s more than jsut the item of title held at face value for me. obviously, it’d be nice if you would have the in-game items to live up to their names / meaning behind as well, or rather, what was at stake for them to be introduced into the game, and how you went about to obtain them.

so while i’m not entirely aganist “reskins” or “upgraded” versions of HoM skins, i would love to see existing HoM skins ugraded as well, not to change their appearance, but rather, to enhance them. and also, so more people sport them instead of just FDS. so they still hold true to their origin and don’t just become another “gw2 skin”, and namely, fix the clipping issues – though that seems to be another issue all around. of course, argubly, since the HoM rewards were one of the earlier designs, as the game improves and moves on, it only makes sense to have them updated so they are not entirely visually impaired.

also, an interesting note you made was how FDS had a counterpart. as did the other versions of the shields. if gw2 added new lore to new weapons that may be HoM reskins, would that be something of interest to people? instead of them just being a random drop that shared a similar/same skin? after all, they are trying to create a living world. and in some sense, it adds to the legacy of gw1.

please make the keg back item happen.

to be honest, i would LOVE to see a giant plot-twist. she is currently portrayed, or rather, perceived, as the “good guy”. so maybe she IS the ultimate baddie and only infiltrating LA. although, the chances seem slim as she’s to me more or less doing what’s his face’s, ah, Magnus’, bidding over anything.

or perhaps.. she’ll find that the Council itself is up to no good. that even Magnus is, gasp, up to no good. then she’ll really play out as hero. though, that’s rather predictable in a sense as well.

hmmm. i guess she’s aight. and like someone mentioned, she does have nice hair.

i have no idea what’s going on in here anymore.

yea, was just wondering since i’m only hovering at 10+ at the moment so i’m sure it’s a completely different ball game. does he have different attacks from 10+ until 48+?since we group melee, tbh, i don’t think i’ve ever seen his projectile attack so clearly before. o____O

i can imagine it’d be a lot tougher at close melee and you wouldn’t be DPS-ing 100% of the time. so scepter here seems a good choice. especially with the insta-immob which helped keep him at bay.

good tip re: max melee to hedge against him using AA’s. seems a few fractal bosses sort of fall under this as well. also, the back-pedaling and dodging away is good to know as well.

lol, i already have the spear pre, though if i’ll ever get around to making it is another story.

well, gonna test my luck whenever the MF daily comes up again. or maybe i’ll just give it a shot and put the stones to good use lol.

very nice, Obal!
would it be too tough to go full melee? or is the risk reward payoff just not there?

and it’s nice being able to see the Archdiviner’s tells so clearly lol

hmm how about if we think of the shield as a metaphor for she skills the Guardian can do with it equipped?

- shield blocks, i.e. protects. so you cast protection on your allies and self.
- you also push foes back —>alleviating pressure on allies or self.
- absorbing projectiles —> protecting allies or self.
- heals —> though the coefficient not being high, it helps in situations when its needed and a lot of the mitigation Guardian gets is via “outhealing” damage taken which allows us to achieve high levels of sustain, so every heal can help.

the Guardian in gw2 is a heavy class, which lends itself to great group support and the Guardian shield is designed in such a way where it can do so, perhaps more so than just blocking melee attacks for one self.

though, i’m merely stating how i view the shield as it is right now. i think shield 5 is great. wouldn’t mind seeing some chagnes to shield 4 though. to either up the damage a bit or add another secondary boon when used.

Bash for president/king/seat on the council/what have you!

haha, if they switched condi dmg and vit, CMF, that would really switch up our x/x/30/30/x builds. XDD

i’m just getting more serious into Fractals with my Guard. i’ll be sure to bring my shield and hit 5 whenever it’s up. ; ))

would LOVE to see that list/thread, Bash.

and you bring up another good point. i guess at least in the Guardian’s case, it may have been a we don’t want Radiance to be a MUST HAVE line for Guardians. although i don’t think even if Condi Duration was paired up with Radiance, it would be that game-breaking. would certainly make trying to come up with a conditions/burn build slightly easier. like yuo said, burn duration becoming more viable, without having to spread your points too far apart. actually, i would love to have duration with Radiance. or at least, matched up with the traits that do give conditions.

i’m gonna be going in with a variation of 20/30/x/x/10 to start with lol just cause i’ve been having so much fun with this build. maybe 10 in Honor, or at least 5 for vigorous precision. and shout CD reduction might be useful.

but of course, we’ll have to see how it goes. pretty looking forward to this actually. and second no more mini-games for now. :PP

the special gambit conditions is really interesting. Dev mentioned in the thread it’d be sth like “no dodging” as one example. :OOO

ya, mentioned this in the 1h sword thread, just position yourself to face the mobs or enemies and the last attack will pierce. : ))

@Chullster – i’ve been playing 20/30/x/x/10 as well and love it. more often been going with 10 in valor though, over 10 in honor.

you could always look at effective health and effective power like on gw2buildcraft.com, though again then, it’s still up to you how low you can go on armor and how high you need to go on pow/pre/crit to get to where you want to be. : ))

for what it’s worth, my personal thresholds used to be:
2k power, 3k armor, 16k health
now i’ve lowered my “defenses” to 2.5karmor, 14k health and i can put the rest into damage.

at the same time, this of course all depends on what type of content you’re doing, who you’re doing it with and what kind of play style you want to achieve. : ))

and MF% is going to be removed from gear. : )) so unsure how that will play out on the gear that has MF% on it.

^^^ i move a lot when using sword. just in PvE for example. when fighting say 3 mobs, and they are at my 3, 12 and 9, i will hit 1, 2 while facing all 3 of them, and then strafe so they are in a line by the time i hit 3 and all of them will be hit.

the AoE potential for sword is huge actually from my experiences.

can we talk about what else could be added to Rad X?
or in general of course. but since it was mentioned Rad X needs some extra oomph as per the other weapon damage % increase traits. with bleeding per sword skills.. would that be too OP? perhaps with a balance between duration of condition applied and CD.

we could play around with Torment as well, CMF. with the right CD and duration, we would be able to stack a decent amount so that foes with it will be weary and actually choose to not move around as much (which helps with keeping our foes near us), while not being to the point where we can stack 25 in 2 seconds.

not sure where to get that balance though. not doing hard math, but maybe something like 3 stacks of Torment/Bleed for 7s, 5s CD, on sword crits. is that too much? lol i’m terrible at coming up with stuff like this.

grats, Silven!

multiple rich orichalcum nodes worth of dicussions in here re: Guardian gameplay.

you may have more luck in the Guardian forums with this so you can give it a shot there.

i’ve heard/read that it does effect it. where and how did you test it? it’d be hard to hard-test it like you mentioned UI and tooltips aren’t always accurate. one thing to note is that SiN is only active when you are in combat. but the increase in crit chance would be about 7% – which is hard to quantify if the tooltips and UI is indeed nonreflective of the changes.

so it’s 3 any exotic weapons, and then a stone? would you always get an exotic back? on the presumptino that you get a precursor on any given forge, the only “downside” i guess is you won’t be able to choose which weapon type you get back exactly.

that’s pretty awesome though mang. grats on the Zap and Spark! lol

side note re: Dawn. a coulpe weeks ago, MF daily, used it twice already. so i threw in 12 exotic GS just for the heck of it. third time’s the charm right? and out came Dawn! so it’s still possible. i been gunning for Twilight, and will most likely keep trying when the MF daily comes up. but might give the stones method a shot too, sicne i have so many sitting around. ://

but if an undead giant dog without fur is trying to kill you, why would he purposefully let you know what he’s about to do and how to avoid it? XDD

i know, i know, it’s a game.. i’ll get back to my IRL now.

kidding aside, does everyone wants bosses they can beat on the first go? without getting hit? i think gw2 does pretty good with tells, or boss fights in general (save the open world giant PvE bosses when you have 100 people around). you see a move incoming, you dodge. sometimes you may not see a move coming, so you learn the pattern that the boss attacks in, or conditions that the bosses will use certain attacks (PLENTY of those). red circle? DODGE! o wait, what? i still died? because the attack has a delay from when the red circle appears. so you note and learned and the next time, you’ll be able to handle that encounter.

aaaaaaand.. if particle effects ARE getting in the way. well, lucky you, they’re getting toned down come tuesday. : ))