Guild Wars 2

i just got done with Aspect Arena achieves. :///
now gotta finish up Southsun Survival. doable with the time that i have left?
i don’t have a WHOLE lot of game time, but i’m gonna do what i can over the weekend.

how long does each game last on average? i guess that’s sort of a silly question since it depends on how long people can survive huh.

i didn’t see this OP as a “whine” at all. legit questions and described situations i’ve seen in-game. i think the aspect arena is really fun actually! first few games was frustrating when all people did was CC and kill me when i wasn’t even near a crystal or attacking theirs… i guess in PvP, when you see a red then yuo jsut want to killkillkill…. but that’s besides the point. after you get the hang of it, it’s really enjoyable.

this achievement was still quite tough though. i think it really depends on your team makeup. i didn’t get it done in one sitting.. the first half of my crystal breaker kills was w hen i was on a team that was seemingly moer competent. at least.. not hung up on fighting over a crystal in the mid (where ppl come back within 2 s after dying anyways) and paid close attention to enemy crystal cappers / bearers and we’d usualyl move as a group 2 – 3 to stop them. this obviously made killing crystal bearers a LOT easier.

then last night everyone seemed to be on their own doing their own thing. i called targets, or asked in Team chat for back up and most often, no one responded. so it’s like OP said, if it’s a 1v1 and depending on your attunement, it’s pretty tough to stop and kill a crystal bearer if they know what they are doing.

i’ll admit, i did something i am not proud of last night. :// a few talked in map chat and we coordinated for kills. some on the map didn’t know what was going on, so we explained to them but after most people who were goign for achieves and didn’t mind getting them that way, we played without alterior motives and it was a lot of fun. we apologized to those who were there to play and they saw where we were coming from. now i don’t know if they actually meant that, but the people who were able to get the achieve or some progress were thankful.

again, i know i’m getting into a slippery slope here because the “if you didn’t achieve it, you didn’t achieve it” crowd… we still all had a lot of fun in the end.

i think i can see both sides of the story. for those of you “making a stand” against the seemingly identical reskin apart from enhanced effects, is it because you feel your efforts in gw2 and HOM points are wasted? if you have the OG Fellblade in gw2, NO ONE, i repeat, NO ONE can take that away from you. and if i want it, i’m going to have to go buy and play gw1, which probably won’t happen. <— not a complaint, i love that dedicated gw1 get special rewards! (esp the many titles you guys have as well)

i personally don’t feel that these “reskins” with purple glowy bits thrown on top in any way diminishes the Fellblade. i love that it’s seemingly so simple, yet so captivating. i’ve yet to see one in-game, and i would love to. but perhaps, that’s just me.

maybe the end of the Queen’s Jubilee would lend itself to an attack on Divinity’s Reach – for whatever, if anything, lies deep within the earth. ; )))

@OP – just making sure, you have to complete T1, T2, T3, then T4 all for the same candidate, i.e. Kiel T1 – 4 or Evon T1 – 4, they can’t mix. nor can you go do T1, T2, T3 then back to T2 to help a friend and go do T4.

though, assuming you know this and did this, then it is indeed a bug and that’s super unfortunate. : (((

i would take this to the support forum threads though and try your luck there! most times i’ve had to contact ANet support, they’ve been reasonably fast and provided good service.

though, in terms of retroactively rewarding things or achievements, even if caused by bugs, i want to say your chances might be slim. but again, go try the support forums! highlight your ticket there and best of luck.

as much as i enjoy min/maxing, at the end of the day, performance will ultimately be about how you play, under certain circumsatnces, over stats. : )) that being said though, a lot of people used to throw around the value of 3k armor being the point that you want to reach and not go above. and that’s when DR kicks in. though i’ve never really looked into the math that much.

i’ve then heard people playing with 3.4k and feel their survivability going up. then there are peolpe running around with 2.5k armor in WvW and don’t seem to have problems surviving. i used to run only 3k+, but now comfortably run ~2.6k in various situations and feel more than fine : ))

if you’re mainly looking to do dungeons, and assuming you have full Knights armor, weapons and jewelry, might i suggest slowly swapping in berserker trinkets to up your damage as a start? and then through gameplay, you can find a balance point that you feel comfortable and you can excel at. or y uo can keep pushing yourself and using the classes mechanics to help mitigate/make up for damage – blinds, blocks, protection, regen, or just simply knowing the situations you’re in and what attacks (be it AI mobs or actual players) you need to completely avoid.

Zaxares.5419:

Tom Gore.4035:

I’d still stock them and only use when sitting on 95% karma boosts

Yep. The only difference now is that I don’t have to carefully ration them out to characters after they make big karma purchases. I can just store them all up, just pick a character, then use some boosters/banners and slug all those puppies down.

agreed. don’t get me wrong, i’m definitely using them with full boosts as well. but like Zaxares said, we don’t have to be careful on who we choose to use it.

it’s more of a convenience thing for me, in addition to saving space. for example, my Asura Guard has a karmic infusion ammy. so i plan to use him to take all the gulps. and i need to get obsi shards, but my Asura Guard doesn’t have map access to Orr yet (though i could just run him there). so my Norn Guard (yes i love teh Guard), who is my main, can pop over to orr and use the karma that i consumed with my Asura.

i am pretty excited for this Gauntlet!DD love this style of a mini-zone/game.
i guess we’ll just have to wait until after the weekend and we’ll get all the details we need.

exciting stuff and looking forward to seeing what else ANet brings!

naw, you’re not alone. that’s the first thought i had in mind as well.. SPEARS? POLEARMS?? though, nothing about new weapon types mentioned, so far. so it may just be a NPC weapon type for now.

still exciting regardless.

love the one-handed burst combos. i usually run mace/torch and scepter/focus.

what Brutaly listed is the way to go because it really allows you to drop Shield of Wrath+JI+Torch 4+Protector’s Strike pretty much instantaneously. i pop SoW and then immob before i torch 4 and JI as well to better ensure torch 4 hits in case your enemy is moving. and always aim for people that are already fighting your allies to they will inevitably set off protector’s strike.

looking forward to see how much damage you can put up at the start of a fight and maintain, while having pretty high healing power for self sustain.

^^^ is great for PvE and in dungeons if you’ve got a good group.

do know it may not work AS well in WvW/PvP, as you’ll usually want a bit more sustain. but of course, you can still make it work if played right. : ))

looking forward to seeing your rendition of a bunker build, stunning!

don’ touch my symbols! haha i absolutely love the larger symbols. wouldn’t call them OP though. but they definitely cover a LOT more area. i would never say no to more AoE and makes symbols more useful as one common argument is that enemies or allies never stay in ’em.

it’s one of my favourite lines right now actually. though i will agree, not a lot of synergy amongst traits itself, and the condition damage you get with it. although, i don’t mind at all. if i’m going down Radiance all the way, i’m most likely goign for RHS and using one handed weapons – and if i use both sword and scepter, both with a lot of multi or fast hitting attacks, i benefit from proccing VoJ a lot more, which condition damage benefits from.

when foofad first posted his Pyroclasm thread, i had a a build that was 10/30/0/0/30 and it worked REALLY well in PvE. when yuo take it into other areas where you’ll need to be able to survive a little, then the build obviously fell apart for obvious reasons. so i see where you’re coming from. it’s moreso the fact that if you go full Radiance, you’ll want power and crit damage to augment the crit chance. but if you wanted to utilize the condition damage, you’ll be giving up so much direct damage and/or sustainability. my thoughts that came to mind first.

just wanted to say… i am SUPER excited for permanent PvP finishers!DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

since they are under Cutthroat achievements, i sort of feel liek they’ll be gone after the event is over, i.e. in a few more days – which i needa shape up and get done ahah gonna be skipping dailies (my normal play time) to get these done. ://

they are also related to “supporting” Evon and Kiel as well.

and i’m just comparing this to Belcher’s which has it’s own achievement sections and under Mini-games (forgot exact heading) but Master of Om achievement is under Bazaar and event related.

but again, we’ll see if the devs mention anything. : ))

i would get done with crystal runner first or whatever it’s called. and then after that you can focus on killing crystal bearers. i just “camp” near crystal sites. not exactly at it, but usually give room for the opposing side to get it and then just do your best to take ’em down. without using pushes or pulls to knock them off. ideally you can run with a group to make things a lot easier.

i have a few from wintersday (or maybe i don’t :///) and the super ones.

so how do these work exactly? if we still have some, then we can “unlock” them? or perhaps i missed where more info was given about the permanent finishers.

definitely one of the most exciting things for me this patch i can forese we’ll be seeing a lot more finishers everywhere

karma as well? can finally use all those thingymajiggy’s and not take up more bank space. we’re gonna have so much space we might not know what to do with ourselves!

ton of great news here. really excited for all of this!D

looking forward to learn more about character looking as well.

@foofad @ronpiece – was this what you were tallking about, foo? i remember reading that too so went and searched for it:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1i6ef9/new_conditions/

read the top comments for some insight, but of course, there was never any confirmation re: these. and ANet did previously mention that don’t count on the .dat sring son being hard facts. often it’s old stuff that gets left in there. i.e. outdated.

though at the same time, could be potential, new stuff.

i still prefer chill for Guardians. or cripples. but ideally chills. : ))
i haven’t been in PvP too much lately.. but the times i have been under the effect of Torment, tbh, i sort of just “tank” through it and keep moving to be where i need to be, unless if i’m on the verge of dying, which by then probs doesn’t matter anyways. so if there’s no reliable way for Guardians stacking torment, and fast? i’d rather us stay as in.

or get more access to chills and cripples – which hard slow your oppoents down and not have your opponents choose to slow down. i think that’d be more beneficial if what we’re saying is we have trouble keeping up with people in combat.

liefbread.9513:

I’m going around offering to help people with this if they want to 2 man it with me, I’ve soloed it well over a hundred times and if you’re willing to guest over to me I’m confident I can get any competent player through it.

very decent of you. and good luck!
just curious, i’m asuming you’re doing it for.. fun, as well as a chance at weapon skins? any drops so far? how many aetherblades do you kill on average?

the main issue i have is that even though it was intended to be mega hard (though with tiers), it was bugged. so people were able to do it with “relative ease”. and speaking from experience, take it for what you will, pre-patch without triggering the bug (all 3 spawns) vs post-patch, post-patch’s difficulty was upped quite a bit.

so it was once perhaps attainable, now for many it seems close to being impossible. gives people the bitter feeling of “o i wish i had done it before they ‘fixed’ it” or “now that i’m done with this, i’m not coming back for another round”. which is where i feel the dismay may come from.

i think it’s fine that it’s meant to be only completed or Gold-ed by not many. there’s plenty of content for everyone. would have been more helpful for everyoen gauging what they can or cannot do with this patch if this had been made known from the beginning instead of halfway through the duration the content will be around, AFTER having made it “more difficult” mid-event. if people had known, or there was no “easy way out” to start with, then i feel there’d be a lot less complains.

for a while i ran mainly cleric’s + boon duration with a build of 0/15/0/30/25. armor will be slightly lower, but if you’ve been playing namely DPS, i assume that shouldn’t pose too big of a problem. i did for the benefits of what the Honor and Virtues line can offer for support in gw2, as well as the blinds from the GS and vuln stacks.

you can go with high healing, find a ratio that suits you. i personally try to aim for 1k plus if i’m going to invest in healing power, although i’ve seen other builds/players go with less and still be abel to achieve what they set out to do.

Pure of Voice is nice to have (Honor Grandmaster) and you can use shouts, which will benefit from your boon duration.

like foofad mentioned, a bunch of different conesecrations are quite useful so you can spec for master of consecrations or the ground targeting one (nice with sanctuary) in the virtues line. and take Absolute Resolution or Indomitable COurage depending on if more condition removal or stability is needed.

also a neat little trick is using Absolute Resolution with Battle Presence (the other Grandmaster in Honor) which boosts your passive F2 and your allies around you get the same benefits. if you activate it, you’ll AoE cleanse conditions, though you won’t get the passive effect of healing anymore, your allies should still get it (unless if that’s been fixed).

if you have both GS and Staff, not a bad idea to buff symbols as well if you like using them. may be more useful for PvE/dungeons, but i find them beneficial in WvW as well. i usually take larger and healing, though longer lasting can be very stong as well (though i will agree it shines more with the hammer).

another few build options in terms of traits just off top:
- 0/0/30/20/20
- 0/0/20/30/20 —>
- 0/0/10/30/30 —> though these last two probably won’t suit your DPS gear as well.

and of course, there can be more combinations. i even played a 25/10/0/30/5 as a hybrid. worked in WvW decently, may not be best for PvE though. and again, Virtues line is very strong if you want to focus more on support.

hey Blas, good stuff!

Chris recently’s been messing around with a healing/medi build i think.

looks like fun. dat merciful intervention heal… i was on low res, but did it full up 3/4 of your HP?? definitely gonna have to mess around with that.

half the time, i was itching to hit my F1,2,3 keys lol XDDDD
but like ya said, you watch and learn heh. it’s very true though.. so i’ve been playing with 30 in Radiance lately (and i’ll admit a lot longer actually) and i’ve JUST realized yesterday, i need to be spamming that F1 key. but hey, at least we catch ourselves.

and just for kicks, your Advanced Combo, i kept wonder what BF was. and then i looked again and saw you hit sword 2. ; ))) haha not sure if that’s easily fixable though without having to reupload. probs not worth it ahhahaha

bring pull skills if you can. was doing it on my Guardian and finally completed it last night. used GS 5 to pull the right plunderer on their way back – one, it interupts, brings them closer to me, and also i noticed if i aggro-ed any vets at all (they still spawned near the spawns), it’d just be 1-2, as opposed to the 3-4 i kept getting.

i found it easy to group the middle and left plunderer too if they happened to be nearby or just CC them, even if you can’t kill them. do anything you can to slow them down.

now, to get Gold for the event… ; )))

ya, immob to set up torch 4 is nice to have. though i used to JI into peolpe’s faces, light them up and them toss flame to proc extra 10% if i have fiery wrath. XDD

ooh @Lord – does your friend mind sharing? ; )) i tried a condi hybrid build and went with the two one handed weapons as well.

sword is definitely very strong. and decently fun! admittedly, you’ll spend a lot of the time auto-attacking, but you make quick work of mobs and i love the added mobility you get with the port.

know that as long as you have sth targeted, you’ll go the max distance with the port in the direction of your target (unless if target is within max range of course). and you can kind of use that to travel across maps a bit faster too.

i did Kiel before the fix, and Evon after the fix. so that was definitely the case for me lol. however, i have read that others said Kiel was a lot more difficult. i think that does depend on the RNG of the vet spawns, etc etc.

so i finally completed this last night solo. whew! i changed my build up a bit and had abit moer vit, though that wasn’t really necessary in the end. i switched to GS as well and used binding blades for the pull for the plunderer on the far right to give myself a little more room to run as well as perhaps only aggro 1-2 mobs instead of 3-4 which i feel might have worked a bit! WW makes quick work of them as well. i did have to take out a few vets that were just in the way. also when there were 2-3 plunderers running around me, i’d switch targets and drop CC on both of them, group them if i could and take them out together, if not, CC as much whil ekilling one to slow them down as much as possible.

though, i STILL think the biggest game changer was that i got lucky with vet spawns. not nearly as many spawned near the plunder spawns and for some reason, their aggro range didn’t seem AS long the time i got it through.

Also, after reading ANet’s response on the Candidate Trials they said it was meant to be extremely difficult content, will be hard or maybe not even feasible for coordinated groups. it was meant for only a few groups to succeed (i.e. getting gold). so after hearing that, i can see where they’re coming from. so i just wish there hadn’t been this “bug” to start with and that people knew what the trials are about. i am definitely up for a challenge, but i guess it’s just nice to know ahead of time what to expect.

that being said, if there are any Guards that wanna go for Gold, let me know and we can try to set up a time this weekend before the Trials leave. i’d imagine a well coordinated group of us, with a mix of one “anchor” some hybrids and DPS builds may be able to get the job done? lol 50 kills in total. :///

p.s. did anyone ever use the enrivonmental weapons?

okay, after reading Matthew and Martin’s note, i can see where they’re coming from. it was unfortunate there were bugs present in the very beginning which i think cause most of the dismay because early on, it was “doable” and not that notion seems quite distant.

but if the devs meant for it to be only for a few people, then so be it. just saw videos of people completing it in group and makes me want to give it a shot as well.

though again, wish the “bug” hadn’t been in there to start with. :/// thanks for the responses.

ahh, thanks for the tip regarding the pull! i drop the plunderers pretty fast so no issue with that. i’ll have to give that a shot.

now the only thing left is i sometimes have mobs that don’t leave the area, even though i’ve lost aggro. and they chill near the spawn points lol.

but like you said, just gotta keep trying. ; )) i know i’ll get it eventually. was just more making a note about how ANet seemingly didn’t just “fix” the bug mentioned before, but rather fix it so it’s even harder. /tinfoilhat

Azraeel.1238:

I don’t know how accurate your description of the issue is, because it totally differs from my experience. The only time I’ve seen the NPC run back that much is when they successfully landed an attack on me. Otherwise, just moving a little back will make them reset. They even run afar where the treasure is leaving me to solo the plunderers.

fair enough. but i’m not exaggerating though. which is also why i was asking if it was under certain conditions that i am being chased that far. or if there’s sth else going on. the majority of the vets i will say are near the treasure, but out of the 5 attempts i’ve tried since patch, i’ve always had at least 1 or 2 guys follow me quite far. hmm, i hadn’t noticed if i had been hit or not. so will have to test and try not getting hit at all and see if they leash easier. sometimes i would attack the plunderer on the left at spawn, and then vets near or patrolling barely past the middle would (since they spawned close and chilling around that area without running abck to the treasure) aggro and try to run me down.

[added: have you ever had vets spawn on the same location as the plunderers?]
[edit: lotta typos, oops.]

awww okies. lol.
yea, those guys.

i guess keep trying until i get a decent batch of non-bug mobs? it’s pretty ricidulous lol. or that Charr genadier that sprints across the map when i even slightly cross the lift plunderer spawn… it’s pretty scary lol. made for some frustrating times but laughs all around.

it’s definitely doable i want to say, albeit a LOT harder compared to pre-patch , not using the bug.

i will say though, at time sit still depends on luck. which is good and bad. cause you can get really lucky, or well. you know the other end of the spectrum. or perhaps someone who can shed some light on the experiences i’ve had myself.

so the vet spawn locations seem random to me? i’ve seen or heard how people do it without aggro-ing (at least not TOO much). i often have vets that spawn near the plunderer spawns. some at the middle flat rock. some even close to the left plunder spawn. so if i leash far enough to lose aggro , i might as well quit because the plunderers, especially if 2 or more are running, they could just walk and have all the treasure by the time i get back. :///

doesn’t help that i feel aggro range has been extended as well? sometimes i see the charr grenadier vet that will run across the entier map, heading straight at me until i run near the water between the armor repair guy and the plunder spawn points. :/// it’s scary whenever i see him come a-runnin’.

one time i had 3 vets spawn near the plunder camps.

so i haven’t given up entirely on this yet. lol. apologies folks, but with limited playtime, i’ev been trying to do as much of the achievement content as possible lol.

that being said, i did ditch my condition damage gear. at least, i won’t be trying for full condition damage as they tradeoff is too great. i find if we’re to capitalize on the burning we can do, it’ll be like what foofad, Rinn and others have said for various reasons.

yea. you definitely got lucky there. ; )) i almost feel it dosen’t matter how fast you can kill the plunderers because when you have 5 vets on your, even invulns and blocks and blinds may not be enough to let you lose aggro. ://

don’t want to but sometimes can’t help but feel that way about their “fixes”. there’s hardly ever middleground.

but HEY! another challenge. let me know if you’ll keep doing this and how it goes haha

this is fantastic. i will say off the bat that the Evon that we DO know, doesn’t seem to fit the tone and words of the letters from Mr. E. though i will not write that off just yet. it’s an interesting theory and seemingly fit together.

there is something about Ellen Kiel i just don’t trust. i did work my butt off for her, mainly because on paper, she was doing good. at that those moments, those were our calling (well, ANet wanted us to do them really lol) but if there is more to that? only time will tell.

godo stuff and sparked my interest with living story more so. will ahve to keep keeping a closer eye on future updates now.

haha, no worries mang, no offense taken at all. here’s confirming that sword AA does MASSIVE damage. i havent’ done the hard math, but i’ve read others saying under the same amount of time, the sword AA chain will outdamamge sword 3’s full duration, and given all the hits hit.

i used to use sword 3 only cause it was one button press and it usually forces a dodge if anything. then i use 2 to follow up and AA away (and that is, if they weren’t downed already after the initial combo).

with torch 4, i almost always just double tap it in PvP, since my goal is to burst as much as possible in the shortest amount of time. another way of using torch 4 is to have scepter/focus as another set. precast SoW (focus 5), and then do the following pretty much at the same time:

• chains of light (scepter 3)
• switch to torch set, double tap Torch 4
• (as fireball is flying) hit JI

then use mace 3 or sword or what not. the idea is that JI+Torch 4 fireball+shield of wrath all hit at the same time.

like foofad said, PVT gives you a strong base to work off of. i have found uses for PVT and can be easily mixed and match with jewelry and traits, especially if one can’t afford to keep switching armor but want to try different builds. you might not be min/maxing but it’s not terribad. cleric definitely has a place too, depending on how you want to play.

@OP – just go for what you like. then the more you play, you can keep transitioning, keep improving and keep changing your style, if you want to. and you’ll learn to approach different situations with different mindsets as well. no one ever said you only get to choose one build and must stick with it forever, right? ; ))

^^ Cuddles, those are gorgeous!DD
i’ve yet to get a photo op with you. :/// all my own fault th ough!

HI TC!!!!! hoping to see you guys soon. : ))
our little one has learnt the ways of crawling. so our lives just got that much harder now lol

will be on when i’m on!

yea exactly doode. let me know how it goes! i was doing them with my wife too. we did them pre-patch together fine. then iw ent and solo-ed Kiel’s no problem (didn’t trigger the bug either so had spawns and 3 going). was challenging but still doable.

i saw the patch notes and i was like “uh oh, i may or may not get the evon achieve now.” tried with wife and it was clearly a lot rougher.

i’m glad i’m not the only one thinking that this was more than just a “fix”. as in, they didn’t just bring it back to how it was intended to work. they upped it because like you said, people were able to do it in a way counter to what they intended. now people can’t solo it as reliably, and i daresay, groups will be having an even HARDER time doing it. (i call it their miss first, over-fix later strategy :///)

and yes, the “luck”. see i saw other people’s videos doing it post-patch and they it’s just as easy. then i compaer what i experienced to what i saw in their vids. most of their spawns were where the treasure was. i had vets spawn where the plunderers spawn. so that’s where they “chill” and so it was basically near impossible for me to lose aggro. if i did, then i’d take too long to get back to the plunderers and with 3 running. lol.

took teh day off of gw2 yesterday lol, so will give it a shot again tonight.

a circle wave on whirl finishes would be kind of nice. though i have no qualms with how it’s done now. if you’re in the thick of things, most bolts will hit something one way or another. although, i didn’t know mace 3 only produced one bolt, if it does actually cast.

blast on empower makes sense, though i feel would be a tad too much as well. would make might stacking even easier. XDD or extra heals on water. hmmm. sound tasty.

just mentioned in another thread, torch 4 is great. and like Ralkuth mentioned, torch + focus + JI and the sword 3 or mace 3 allows you to drop amazing burst in a split second.

torch 5 i guess has it’s uses but i rarely use it. i’ve used it to down fleeing foes with a smidget of health left before. and it’s fast hitting allows for crit procs / burn procs. but the damage you get is too low for the duration of the cast. and you need to watch out for retal obviously. never use it for condition removal. too unreliable for my take it doesn’t cleanse yourself. you have to be careful about what you’re targeting so you can properly aim it at your allies if so.

torch 4 really is great though for burst damage.

i run mace/torch for PvP for burst as well. if i’m playing symbols using mace, i personally feel focus or even shield is a greater contestant.

torch is great and fun but i’m mainly using 4 whenever it’s up. 5 is neat looking, and that’s, sadly, about it. good for PvE and killing squishy targets, or finishing off a small group (to get weapon master as well lol). high proc rates though. i never use it for cleansing though. rather inefficient. if you do like using it though, make sure to click on yoru targets to ensure the flames go where you want it. too often have i seen my Guardian running forward, with his head turned 90 degrees, blowing flames on the wrong guy that i intended haha.

again, i’ve stated this many times, so donno why i keep doing it but.. i did T4 pre-patch without bug. was challenging and fun. post-patch, the mobs are timed now, and seemingly MORE spawn, extended aggro. i could leash to the exact same spot pre and post patch, and pre they’d leash, but psot, they’d follow me into the water, etc etc.

it wasn’t just a “fix” imho, it was an over-fix. as per usual. why not just bring it back to the level it was INTENDED to be? instead of increasing the difficulty because some people exploited an exploit.

yep. timed spawns. bugged spawns. extended aggro-seemingly (they never sued to follow me into the water, where pre-patch, at the same spot, they lost aggro). and spawns that don’t patrol the treasure. they just sit near the spawn points. lol.

and oh, knocking mortar mobs away for “safety” doesn’t work anymore either. they were knocked away (at least 600?) and mortars still fire unmanned lol. whether it was intended for them to be able to be knocked away or not and run back to their mortars, meh. i guess they added asura tech to teh mortars so they could fire unmanned. ://

again, “over-fixing”.

i played it pre-patch without the bug (killed every spawned plunderer i saw, in T4, spawned from all locations). now though? T4 has more vet mobs than before when i didn’t even trigger the bug, and their leash is amazingly long. some even follow me into the water. :///

i got it done on Kiel pre-patch, though didn’t experience the “bug” where guys don’t spawn. i KNEW i should have done Evon’s as well the same sitting.. but i decided to go to bed. lol. woke up next day, saw patch noets and i already knew “awww yeah, i’m gonna miss out on this achieve.”

whether i get it or not, i don’t mind.. my issue is more.. the “fix”. i personally feel it’s not working as intended. as it was made more difficult then it was intended to be. i.e. it was workign fine previously as it still took some challenge if it doesn’t bug out. but now the mobs leash way longer, more spawn as well seemingly. that’s just from anecdotal experience though. i may have missed something as i didn’t try it too many times post-patch.

it’s this trend of missing then overfixing which causes issues for me. i thought this was really fun actually! and does push your solo build or group synergy to the limits. but you have to spec and plan for it. or at least think about it.

GSS, you were able to do it post patch still right?

i did T4 Kiel the other day pre-patch, and did it more than fine (the build i tried didn’t work though lol) so i just went full DPS to drop the plunderers fast. avoiding the vets weren’t too much of a problem.

i KNEW i shoulda went and got Evon done as well fast. knowing ANet… and they went ahead and fixed whatever people were “tricking” the system into doing,.. and i can’t help but feel they did it overboard. as in they added more waves than intended, even though pre-patch, certain waves just weren’t showing up.

i never got the “bug” that a lot of people described when i did Kiel’s T4 and was still manageable. now though? 2 vets spawn from the get go with incredible aggro range. and others follow me past the water sometimes when i try to leash. so killing plunderers again, no problem, but it’s the vets i have trouble with as well. and since i ignore them, they pile up. so maybe that’s my problem.

GSS or others who’ve done it post-patch, do you guys take down the vets too?

back to the drawing board, might have to retry again. :///

haha the laser is pretty OP then. oh, another neat trick where binding blade shines on this map! what i like to do is when in the thick of battle, and the laser is coming down from my team and people start to flee? you know what to do lol.

just watch them eat the laser. then you can easily finish them off.

XDDD 4 people! very nice! i have a sudden urge to just camp the side points now. hahaha BB is op on skyhammer. >.>