Guild Wars 2

Anyone of the 3 classes you said are good to roam with Necro, just choose the one you like most.

Xenesis.6389:

The more I hear Rall shouting out that they only play for the fights, the more it looks like an excuse that they can’t compete anymore, even more so since the season when they tanked. What, they think they’re the only server to face coverage odds? pfft.

Never said we got to T1 by focusing on bags only. What I said is that focusing on fights has been the the major let me say “slogan” of SoR a long time ago before we started to loose all matchs. Of course we could get to T1 because of PPT as server rank is based on PPT.

But you are right we are probably loosing our PPT focused players and guilds, I am not integrated to our guilds politics, I am not even an officer in my guild, so I can not say that for sure only from what I read on forums, hear on server TS and read on wvw chat. So we might be going down to tier 2 soon.

And yes I also think there is no right or wrong on playing for bags or ppt, people should play the way they like.

DivineBeing.2086:

PPT.

From what I have seen is a server only starts to play “for fights only” when they are so badly beaten they don’t even want to try.

I understand why you would say that, it really sounds like an excuse, but in the case of SoR it has been like this since a long time ago, even when we were winning some T1 matchs.

When we were in a better shape and could fight BG and JQ there were more of a balance between people that fight for bags and those that fight for ppt, because both sides were happy, we had good fights and could hold a good part of the points, but now SoR cant hold or dont want to hold the points anymore… the current idea is let then take the tower and get it back later for more loot and karma…

As I said I really play for the PvP, I roam most of the time in havoc groups or alone. The PPT is not my main concern, but I also dont ignore it completely, many times I have spent my play time helping sieging, protecting camps and even scouting… it is not my favorite stuff to do but I also like to help the server… and if I can havoc with a small group in place that helps the PPT why not?

I just wanted to know what is the situation on other servers, for what I see when I play BG is very tactical, you rarely see a BG tower or keep without a scout so I consider that you guys play more for the PPT than the bags, JQ looks like the same. But I have no idea about the other tiers.

Rangers are not that bad, they are hard mode for sure and I agree is the worst class now comparing to the others, but you can roam with it if you find a good build that fits your playstyle.

Elementalists should not be ignored, they are not in a good place now as they were many months ago before the nerfs, but still a good class. They are very dynamic and have a lot of survival skills and good damage.

If you can master an Engi it is definetely a very good choice, but it is not so easy and obvious to play as other classes.

Guardians with the meditation build can surprise you, after the patch that gave us the trait to gain fury when using meditations it became more popular.

Necromancers are tough and great for 1v1, but mobility sucks a lot… they have good survival but to slow to run away if you are caught by a big group… and no matter how much you invest on survival skills a big group with a little bit of brain will kill you.

Warriors, dont need to say anything. It is the class of the moment.

Will not comment mesmers and thieves as you said will not like to play with then now, they are the best roaming classes.

Why dont you buy a ticked to have your own sPvP room? I dont know how it works but I know it exists and you can setup the rules of the match so you create a 1v1 arena…

As far as I remember from reading around WvW was never a major feature for then… they thought sPvP would be the main stuff just after PvE of course.

WvW popularity surprised then a lot, I remember to have read somthing from one of the devs saying it… but it is something you can accept, a part of the game they thought would no be such a success so on the release they gave not so much importance to it… what amuses me is that it is still to slow to stuff to happen to WvW, at least it looks to me that WvW has more playes than sPvP focus should have changed… idk… I am not good with marketing and sales plan stuff.

I agree it would be usefull… if allowing a commander to write something to all server is complicated and trolls would love that… maybe at least allow us to have a chat tab to see wvw chat even when we are not inside it.

I see a lot of drama talk on WvW chat about people that play for PPT and those that play for Bags and Fights only…. I see commanders arguing about it with one another along with the players the follows then… and a great division is happening at least is what I feel on SoR.

The majority of guilds and their commanders on SoR play for the fights and bags, I can say that people who cares about PPT and defending and sieging stuff are the minority here.

I myself prefer the fights, I play for PvP and sieging stuff, scort dollies, scouting is boring to me… but I also like to win, the server competition to see who is better so although I think it is little bit boring to care about PPT I also feel that sometimes I need to do something to help the server get more points… maybe if ANET changed the PPT system and rewards but it is an old discussion.

What I would like to know is how is it going on right now on the other servers?

I dont think the problem is the event, the problem is that too many people want everything handed to then… too many lazy players.

Bhawb.7408:

I have one demand for when they make pistol off-hand available: it must have a skill that “shoots” jagged horrors. I don’t particularly care how it works, or why, or anything besides the fact that I need to be able to shoot jagged horrors at my enemies.

OMG! I cant stop imagining that!

I would love if signet of locust had signet of spite active effect… I only use this signet for the speed passive effect and I would love not having to sacrifice a slot for it…

As stated above in combat I am good with sword and GS, and meditation skill. When running around it sucks a little bit specially when I am roaming with other people that have speed signets or runes, but I just got used to it… I dont want to sacrifice my runes for more speed right now, but if one day I decide to waste some gold definitely would go for travellers runes.

So a zerker says there is no skill playing a condition build… and zerker needs lot of skill…

I play both builds and… you know what… I am not loosing my time here… see ya.

Ok…

The 3 less

Skill lag on big fights
Enemies rallying because they killed a mob, specially those useless deers
Less PvE… please dont put living story stuff on wvw…

The 3 more stuff

Improve guilds stuff for WvW, let us claim more than one location, give us more tools to play as a guild, let us see where our guildmates are on the map for example… the name of this game is Guild Wars and not Server Wars!

Improve commanders tools too, we need squad to be more than one chat channel, let commander set captains to lead parties and be able to see where they are.

I like the ruins idea, at first I thought it would be a roamers paradise… but it is not… I dont see many action there… I have no idea how to improve it but I think it deserves some attention.

Caedmon.6798:

albotelho.2931:

Running warriors are funny… I cant stop laughing when they run… and nowadays anything make they run, just hit a little hader and they run like deers… thieves should be like that.

Warriors mobility should be used to chase not to run away… just my opinion.

If they run away,they seem to be pretty effective in it as you can’t catch them and have to laugh about it for some reason,usually these warriors are playing You,and you don;t seem to realize it…Warriors mobility should be used for whatever the warrior wants to use it for.

Sorry if I ofended you some how with my opinion… but I really dont think they are playing me, they play to kill me and when they cant kill you on their first chain of skills and you give then a hard time they just move and flee because they have the best mobility of all classes.

I just stated that this is funny because usually you dont expect a warrior to run away so easily and most of then are doing this, I am not saying they have to fight untill death because of some kind of warrior honor is just that many are running for nothing they are playing like thieves, if you cant win on the first blow just move away and try again later.

I do not PvE much, just enough to get some gear and money, but from what I experienced the problem is that most dungeons doesnt require any support classes, and any full zerk team can do then very fast and very easily… now they come with this talk about balancing zerk builds, or critical damage so it will not be the dominant build in PvE… please the problem is not the build, improve dungeons bosses so that they can not just be “zerged” and killed in minutes with raw damage…. there is no need for tactical skill in most dungeons, any noobie in a high dps build can do then.

I like both sPvP and WvW, but I just cant play sPvP for more than 1 or 2 hours… and sometimes I stay days without playing it….

But I play WvW everyday and spend a lot of hours on it, it is just because open world PvP is much more dynamic, anything can happen, a thief may try to get you, a zerg can be just on the corner… you have space to kite, there are many different strategies… it could be better for sure I see much more issues to be fixed in WvW than sPvP but nevertheless I still prefer WvW.

Instead of ranking the commander improve their tools, squads could be much more usefull today is only a separate chat… let us see where the squad members are, let commander choose who can enter his squad so we can ignore afkers and trolls, let the commander choose captains to better divide the groups and give them obejctive tasks, like havoc captain, defensive captain, I dont now I am no commander but I miss this stuff from other games… or at least give guilds this hability, this game is called Guild Wars and have very few content and utilities for guilds, bonus banners are not enough.

Straegen.2938:

albotelho.2931:

Boonprot.6274:

Rangers and Engis are in the same boat. Jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none. When you build team comps for WvW you have to look at what each class can bring individually to the group. Turns out that the group support that a Ranger brings to the table is outclassed by other professions.

Engis are far away in a better position than the Ranger.

Engis are a difficult class to master but when you run into one that is played well you will likely never forget it. They are a roaming class that can make even the most skilled players say “what the hell just happened”. They are also far more dangerous underwater despite what most Rangers believe.

^ thats it.

lol best video ever! Gave me a reason to play my Ranger.

Just keep the names of good and bad commanders in mind… the good ones I have on my friend list the bad ones no.

Running warriors are funny… I cant stop laughing when they run… and nowadays anything make they run, just hit a little hader and they run like deers… thieves should be like that.

Warriors mobility should be used to chase not to run away… just my opinion.

Someone once said: “BG you are a fat monster… go on a diet and give us some guilds!”.

Cain.6507:

With the Sanduskel build it is actually possible to kill other players on their log in screen.

OMG LOL

Sanduskel.1850:

lol art though vexxed? it’s ok buy more guilds

Troll master ^

But if truth, what guild did we bought to SoR? When are they coming? I gave no money

Boonprot.6274:

Xenesis.6389:

They need to turn rangers into a mobile arrow cart.
XD

Yes. Exactly what this game needs more of is siege.

Rangers and Engis are in the same boat. Jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none. When you build team comps for WvW you have to look at what each class can bring individually to the group. Turns out that the group support that a Ranger brings to the table is outclassed by other professions.

Engis are far away in a better position than the Ranger.

I dont think Rangers are a bad class… but comparing to others they are the worst.

I have all casses but Elementalist on level 80… Ranger was my second class to level and now I rarely play with it.

Ljiona.9142:

style.6173:

Forzani.2584:

Attackers already have the advantage, which goes against all logic and common sense. No need to make it even worse.

Not sure where you play, but I’ve seen groups of 5 well coordinated teams who can hold a tower against 20 people indefinitely. Most attackers will just move along.

I have seen 5 players take a tower from 20. Doesn’t prove anything.

5 taking a tower with 20!? lol… 18 afk and 2 active maybe? They just had to go out of the tower and wipe the 5.

style.6173:

Forzani.2584:

Attackers already have the advantage, which goes against all logic and common sense. No need to make it even worse.

Not sure where you play, but I’ve seen groups of 5 well coordinated teams who can hold a tower against 20 people indefinitely. Most attackers will just move along.

You can make a good defense with 5 people in a well sieged and full supplied tower, but if the 20 people “really want” to get the tower they will, just need a little bit of organization and supplies.

I would be happy if the borderlands were not exactly the same… this would already be a great change.

I like the downed state idea, but it has issues, it is ridiculous when you kill someone and he hits a dying mob to get up… maybe the rally should be you get up if you kill the one person that downed you or someone else kills the person… I dont think it is fair that you hit someone in the middle of the zerg, than you are downed by other player… for some reason the guy you hit dies… and you are alive!!!

Other issue is it is too fast to recover someone from downed state, it had to be harder at least in WvW.

I have played all classes, the only one I do not have on level 80 is the elementalist, the thief was the last I leveled, 80% of time I leveled in WvW, I always hated thieves because of the perma stealh so I decided to play one to better understand how it works…

First thing I noticed is… they are fun to play… it is funny to be on the other side when your enemy cant find you… second is thieves have few scape alternatives but stealth so it becomes quite dependent on it, maybe more experienced thieves can discuss it better but I cant see other ways of surviving as a thief but using stealth.

The fact is you only die playing a thief if you are caught by zerg, or you make a big mistake on activating your skills, or you are too overconfident. Any average player can scape any fight no matter how skilled the oponnent is. But this is just for scaping, as far as damage dealt I think the thief is ok.

I know it would not solve the PvD problem, but at least could give a chance for the outnumbered server to try something. It would also give some motivation for people to siege towers, today sometimes I feel like spending it for nothing most of the time the blobs are so fast to cap you dont have a chance to get to the tower to use the siege.

I dont think it would be impossible to cap 3 tier keep, it would be hard for sure, but even now a blob can cap a keep with some defenders… just need a little bit of tactics. But I agree that there would need to exist a limited quantity of sieges the guards could use. Maybe they also could be limited to not use catapults and trebs, just arrowcarts, balistas, cannons and oil.

I was thinking about the motivations to play WvW, I myself like it and play just for fun, but many players says it has no reward and are getting bored, they want something to fight for not only server pride.

So I thought why not having weekly achivements for WvW? As we have daily and monthly, but achievements that makes sense and help the server winning the match not like some we had on season 1.

The basic would be killing enemies, dolyals, capping towers, supply camps, keeps and castles, but also defending those locations, buying upgrades, repairing stuff, destroy or build sieges… like a small season.

Of course achievements that could be done in a week of WvW, not in one day or impossible stuff that forces you to farm for hours to get it. And there could be one special achievement for winning the match.

The reward could be based on tokens like those from dungeons, you could exchange then for exclusive skins, rare craft materials, finishers, I dont know stuff like PvE has. And the winning server of the week could get some more tokens or a chest with a chance for rare stuff.

I am no pro but I am very happy with the build I have now. It is based on Meditations I got a very consistent damage and very good survival. I do not have problem with most of the classes, unless very high condition damage builds even with two cleaning skills when the enemy knows what he is doing I have some issues with the conditions.

My build now is 10/30/30/0/0, my armor is PVT, weapons are Valkyrie (sword and focus always, GS or Hammer, some times Scepter with focus but I dont like it), accessories are ascended Power/Precision/Critical Damage/Vitality, do not remenber the name now.

I got about 3K power, 3K armor and 19K – 20K HP. My criticial chance is about 35% but I use the fury trait for meditations help a lot. Critical damage is about 50%.

I sitll have to work on runes, I am using Soldiers from my old shout build, have to change then… maybe Dolyak or Traveller… I hate how slow Guardian is and I dont like using Retreat or Staff.

I use the oil that increases precision for food usually those that increase critical damage or precision.

It has some flaws but this build has been the best for my playstyle now, I win much more than loose with it.

This a build for havoc or solo play… it works well on zergs too but there are better supportive builds for those cases.

WoVic.3257:

albotelho.2931:

One crazy idea I had right now, maybe the guards could use the siege we build, the tower could defend itself even with no players, we just have to build the sieges, it would help a lot and give us time to get to the tower and wipe the zerg.

That would actually be awesome. But using the Guards would be a pain to implement, pathfinding and all. It should be more like automated defenses but then it would be on predetermend locations and then we would not like that placement.

Yeah… I am a programmer too and I know it is possible to do with AI algorithms but not an easy task for sure.

Xenesis.6389:

albotelho.2931:

Xenesis.6389:

albotelho.2931:

Reslinal.2359:

I heard Choo is also thinking about leaving, maybe to JQ…If that happens it would be best for SoR to drop tiers and rebuild.

There are lot of rumors now on SoR… everyweek people says one of the big guilds are leaving… so I do not have any clue if this is true or not, as far as I know they still here.

Go read the matchup threads on the new site, some real selfish comments coming out of SoR there.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what new site?

http://www.gw2wvw.net/

Thanks!

I just had this idea that could help with towers defense, and maybe who knows help a little bit with nightcapping.

Today when we siege a tower it is useless unless there are players inside to use then, and all we know that scouting a tower can be quite boring as it can take a long time to something happen and you have to act or use the siege.

So what if the guards were able to use the siege we build? They could make alone a much better defense until we could get to the tower. It may be an upgrade to the tower, I dont know the idea is very raw right now… but if the guards would use the siege it would not be so easy to PvD anymore, it will not hold the nighcapp zerg but will give a chance for the server with few players to try something.

I dont know how difficult it would be code this, because you would need some AI to the npcs… but maybe the players thenselves could train then to shoot siege in one direction… who knows.

I dont think doors should be changed… it is a fact if 40-50 people decide to break a door they will do it… the problem is that it is not worthy defending. If you have 2 or 3 arrowcarts and some few people you can scatter then and force then to use siege to break the gate faster and safely, but people just dont care about defense.

Another issue, maybe if the towers had more than one entrance as keeps and castles it would be easier for people to get in and defend… today if a zerg stops by infront of the tower it gets really hard to enter it and defend, so all the siege you built inside is uselless unless someone decides to stay inside a tower forever… and it is very boring.

One crazy idea I had right now, maybe the guards could use the siege we build, the tower could defend itself even with no players, we just have to build the sieges, it would help a lot and give us time to get to the tower and wipe the zerg.

azizul.8469:

i thought SoR recently received a guild transferring from CD….?

Bunnies and Dragons [BAD] , a SEA guild formerly known as [TOFU] when they were on CD…

can’t be that bad on SoR right now, right ?

I have seen some BAD around, but not in big numbers, looks like a havoc guild but I cant say that for sure because never talked to one of then, thats just my impression from what I saw, I myself play a lot as roamer or in small havoc groups. TOFU I have not seen yet.

This week we have less people playing, I could say it is the worst week since season.

Xenesis.6389:

albotelho.2931:

Reslinal.2359:

I heard Choo is also thinking about leaving, maybe to JQ…If that happens it would be best for SoR to drop tiers and rebuild.

There are lot of rumors now on SoR… everyweek people says one of the big guilds are leaving… so I do not have any clue if this is true or not, as far as I know they still here.

Go read the matchup threads on the new site, some real selfish comments coming out of SoR there.

Sorry for my ignorance, but what new site?

I play Guardian a lot but never could do that… never really tried in fact… but I have seen it once some months ago, a Guadian just appeared out of nowhere inside a tower that was under attack.

I am ignoring most of the posts here, have no time to read them all and so I may say something someone already did… the only reason anyone would have to move to BG is for an easy win in WvW wich is not a big thing… the winning server has no special reward unless in seasons so… I cant see any other motivation to move there… there is no challenge for BG now, maybe if JQ get some more guilds there will be something… today it is just too easy for BG.

About SoR, on the last weeks I did not think we were in such a bad shape, we had nice fights even lead one match during weekend… but this week looks like we are forcing a drop to T2.

If you want raw damage go Warrior.

Reslinal.2359:

I heard Choo is also thinking about leaving, maybe to JQ…If that happens it would be best for SoR to drop tiers and rebuild.

There are lot of rumors now on SoR… everyweek people says one of the big guilds are leaving… so I do not have any clue if this is true or not, as far as I know they still here.

Chris.3290:

albotelho.2931:

SoR had lost a good amount of players after season 1, but I do not think people are burned out, we lost some wvw focused guilds and thats why we have fewer people playing.

You lost your WvW core and that usually results in an exodus where your diehards will pick the server back up and you will have to rebuild. Luckily you have some true diehards like Choo and GSCH that will always hold the line. Is TW staying, because if they are you shouldn’t drop much.

Yes we still have some great wvw focused guilds and they keep us pushing and having good fights, I am not sure about TW just heard they had some internal issues some weeks ago, not sure if true but I have not seem then in good numers lately, maybe I am just not playing on the same boderland or time that they are, even on TS.

We lost IRON, it is not new, this week we officially lost FEAR too.

SoR had lost a good amount of players after season 1, but I do not think people are burned out, we lost some wvw focused guilds and thats why we have fewer people playing.

Server: SoR
League: Gold
Enjoyed Season 1: Yes, with some restrictions
Should we have season 2?: Yes, but it needs some changes, first the achivements should not be so PvE oriented, killing hundreds of sentries is boring as hell, but the main issue is that it is not possible to make it with 3 divisions now with so many servers with low WvW population, it will only works if servers are balanced.

I am from SoR and from what I have seen lately I dont think we are going to do much next week… I dont see the big WvW guilds in good numbers anymore… I do not know if any guild left or why SoR is not showing as it did in the past but the fact is we are not fighting as before.

If TC gets the second place for this match the third place of the season is theirs, they will certainly win their last match and SoR would have to win the last round against BG and JQ… and I cant see this happening.

Event if we can get second today TC will tie with us, I do not know what ANet will do with ties.

We had good fights during this season, it was fun and brought some new challenges in WvW… unfortunally SoR could not get the place I expected, I just hope the big guilds will not transfer because of that, we have a very strong community here and it would be sad to see it breaking.

What a nice team work BG and SoS are doing right now! You look like a true couple, SoS from north and BG from south at our EB keep… are you guys on the same TS? Because it is so organized now… like twin souls.