Guild Wars 2

I’ve killed some thiefs in a sec using just LB#5 – Axe#5.
I could say ranger is pretty handy some times.

I think something could help would be:
– The bosses to have zerg oriented skills. Skills that get stronger the more people are in a spot will make the players to avoid to stack.

- The bosses could be completely “random”, but for that to work the bosses should be something more permanent, do not use timers to defeat them. Also make them mobile, now you only need so await AFK until respawn. If they run along all the zone doing stuff, so the pre events could be directly related to them and not a random event, it is more fun

-The bosses should have some kind of mechanics to avoid players stacking and attacking all at once to the boss. If the boss can spawn minions (tequal or jormag style), and those minions drop stuff (not very pricey but to give a reward like feeling when you kill them) will make the players to disband just to maximize the rewards. Those minions could even help the boss (healing, buffing) so the players wouldn’t focus in the boss and ignore the minions. With this i mean, the minions should be as important as the boss within the event.

They have some examples done already, the champion imp close the megadestroyer, if the altar is not destroyed you do no damage is a good example.

So the mechanics wouldn’t be always #1 AA and AFK. I would like less bosses but more complex to kill with changing strategies (the random minions with different utilities would give that randomness to the game)

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This could work for a New Ideas forum. But for this one is good as it is now.

gloflop.3510:

When I logged in tonight, I first smiled. April 1st… However, my smile froze rapidly. There was a major plane crash last week in France in which 150 people lost their lifes. For more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanwings_Flight_9525

Given the recent event and given that the event is still present in the media, the idea was suboptimal. I would suggest taking out the april fool immediately and write an ingame apology.

Actually none care about your suggestions. Instead writing some unnecessary apologies, I want a new post about specializations.
And my needs are over yours coz reasons.

alcopaul.2156:

DeadlySynz.3471:

When I first logged on, I didn’t think “plane” I thought cross, or someone nailed to a cross. Given the holiday coming up, I could see a lot of people finding this offensive.

Correct me if I’m wrong (as I havn’t really gone through the entire ToS), is there not something in there about religion or religious names or even slander? I mean if we can’t even elude to certain things that go against the ToS, how exactly can they put something like this forth (if Religious depictions are indeed against the ToS)?

If someone logs into the game and it appears to them that their character is nailed to cross, does this not go against their very ToS?

yeah man, it’s the holy week for us Catholics. when i first logged, i thought it was about crucifixion. and crucifixion on holy week and april fool’s is on the opposite side of the spectrum.

this is offensive to Catholic’s as well.

I’m a catholic and i find all this pretty funny. So yes, please SFU and get a life as I find your obnoxious ignorance too offensive that is almost unbearable.
Most Catholics are normal people and not maniacs that get all enraged whenever they see something about our religion.

Kolisch.4691:

For the time being, even with pet at passive, you always have to spam F3 now and then.

Yeah, whenever you cast the pet skill, the pet decides to attack ‘cos reasons. Even if it’s on passive.
This being happening for a year or so already… Don’t think they will fix it.

Oh come on, this again?

It is stated and proven that ranger is the weakest class in the game after the necro. The idea behind the class is nice it’s execution is awful.

Too many broken mechanics in place to make this class playable in any high level game, silver wastes a perfect example, PvP no mention, WvW the same unless you play safe from 1800 units. I could write down a list but let’s not do that is being done 100 times.

That’s a fact and that’s why there are not meta rangers in PvP. Period.

Saying otherwise is BS and that’s being proven already.

Despise all that i love my ranger and i play with him all the time. I like to be able to swap between range and melee weapons although killing any champ in level 80 maps it’s really difficult to do it just myself.

When i play with a the guardian i much easier although so much boring.

Dead should stay dead until travel to WP, period. No “rezz” allowed. Closer WP could be free in that cases.

If they are in dead state for more than 1 min (for example) they should loose the tag for the rewards.

The players will complain but then after some time everyone will enjoy the game much more, because the players will begin to take care of the environment and the fight flow.

Downed state should take longer, so the other players could have an actual chance to revive an ally.
Having Downed State and Dead State is redundant and cause this kind of bad behaviour within the player community.

Skills could be used to revive a dead(not downed) player, but could be used once an hour on each player to avoid abuse.

Also, armour fix shouldn’t be free. And take some time to fix, so the players will be actually afraid to die.

i’m outraged because becoming outraged is becoming too mainstream.

I thought 96.7% of all the players thought this is a very good prank.
The 78.5% of those are willing to buy the mod from the gem store to became a permanent aeroplane to fly around as long as they keep all the sound effects.

This is proven to be right because my psiquic told me so.

Broom.2561:

anduriell.6280:

pete.1824:

Anet should comment and act upon on what has been said in this discussion, remove this game mod ASAP, it is only making the kids happy… in some way?? not sure why they think its funny?

Because most of the player base thinks is funny?

More correctly: you THINK most of the player base thinks it is funny. That’s called an assumption. I’ve seen both positive and (very) negative reactions in game. Without a poll, you’ll never know how many think it’s fun, and how many just log off (like me).

But… but… BUT… I know the 96,7% of the player base thinks this is funny ‘cos i have my sources. If you don’t that your issues.
Also there are more positive post about the joke in the forums than otherwise. Also the few there are complaining are the same person with different nicknames, we all know that.
did you log off? Good for you! Now get out to the sun, and enjoy life. You can come back tomorrow. Doctor orders.

Also i like bananas and coconut. But that maybe is unrelated.

pete.1824:

Anet should comment and act upon on what has been said in this discussion, remove this game mod ASAP, it is only making the kids happy… in some way?? not sure why they think its funny?

Are you posting this in every single post in the forum?? At least don’t do the copy/paste thing..
As i said most of the player base (like 95% ) thinks this is funny. Not that i have any numbers on my desk but we all know this is true.
I think this mod should be made permanent so i could be doing the plane every single day. All of us.

Most likely this made even more people to log in today. With all this unjustified fuzz how couldn’t they?
I think this april’s joke is being the best yet in GW2 game. Boobleheads meh, but this one i would buy in gem store for sure.
They should make it permanent in game, like the laboratory, so i could go all day long like this.

pete.1824:

Anet should comment and act upon on what has been said in this discussion, remove this game mod ASAP, it is only making the kids happy… in some way?? not sure why they think its funny?

Because most of the player base thinks is funny?

Demon of the Light.7961:

Don’t be silly, now! There aren’t vaccines in GW2’s universe (at least there is not a proof about them existing yet), healing skills, though…

But healing skills is magic and magic is GOOD!! My doctor doesn’t think so, but i know for a fact that chanting naked in my house to the spirits of the nature will cure me and my son from any bad illness.

Magic is good, vaccines are bad because they cause autism, and the GMO thing also is bad because my psychic told me so. My doctor disagree but as i told him: natural thing coming from magic can’t be wrong!!

Celtic Lady.3729:

GMO – Genetically Modified Organisms

Ah and vaccines.. Don’t forget them, remember they cause autism.

Celtic Lady.3729:

Just say no to GMO.
.

What’s that? English please?

Olvendred.3027:

This is in very poor taste. Do you know how many horses are subjected to animal cruelty each year? Neither do I, but it probably happens.

Oh my god, you are my hero from now on.

Celtic Lady.3729:

They should also lock and delete the posts of people complaining about people being offended. There’s like half a dozen of these now, too.

Just sayin’.

Once they delete the winning post, also will be deleted the ones that complain about the complaining.
Easily fixable you see.

It looks like there are the same person posting different threads trolling around. I wouldn’t bother to get annoyed by them.

I love it. I’d like to have it so i could go running around like this. Noises included but without the sepia and granny thing please.
10/10 would buy at the gem store.

Some admin should delete/lock all the post winning about they didn’t like the joke. Just don’t play for today and it will be ok.
Trolling for the sake of trolling is idiotic and annoying, when so many post are posted by the same person with different nicknames.

Jeeezzzz……

Actually the sepia filter and the granny thing is annoying but other than that i thought the joke is great.
I’ve got some screens captures from this morning and is quite fun.

Well done Anet!!

PS: I’m european but i can’t be bother to be “offended” for every little thing that happens in the internet (aka the whole world).

I don’t understand the change just i’ll say one thing: RANGERS ARE THE ONLY CLASS IN GAME THAT CAN NOT STRIP A BOON WITH AND SKILL/WEAPON.

We need sigils/runes to get the same effect than for example the mesmer.

Noooo!!! Another thread about the same complaining “i’ve been owned by a bear bow” and that it is low. That say to all of us you need to L2P urgently.
Meanwhile we’ll keep enjoying pushing down the cliffs noobs and such.

PBS is not necessary but instead is A MUST for the LB. I even would say for how the LB works there should be more utilities that can overcome its own limitations.

LB do damage by long range that decrease a lot in “short” range imo must have knockbacks, crippling, stealth and all the utilities we have already. Although i miss more effects associated to our weapons skills, other classes do a lot of different support/damage secondary effects, like cleanse, healing, etc… And the few there are should at least work that is not the case (LB#3 is very peculiar..)

To change knockback to knockdown they should improve the speed and the damage shouldn’t diminish within short range but instead keep the same damage as longest range.

Seriously you have 5 SLOTS for 5 characters and can buy more. Just choose one for a ranger and play, level it up and try P2P or WvW. Then you will see how warrior, thief or mesmer are easy as pie to play with instead ranger or necro that are the most difficult classes as right now.

Threads of children whining all the time because the loose a match are just tiresome.

You see so many rangers because you want to see them. I see a many more guardians and eles but that is maybe just me.

Rangers are the most fun class to play because of the promise of it can get better. The mechanism of the class seems promising you can play safe from distance and get close as soon as you desire keeping efectivines en both cases.
WRONG. It is not a problem of learn 2 play (L2P) most of the skills and traits are broken or useless.
That’s being said. The class is still the most fun in pve and wvw. Although if you go for the win (to dont die a lot in wvw or speed runs) just choose another one.
Also is the easiest class to begin with, the distance of the bow make it so. But the most difficult to play against other players or actually some enemy AI (silver wastes for example) . The rest of the game is dead easy, you only need the bear to bring all the aggro for itself while you pewpew with your bow from 1800 units. And that’s why bearbows exist.

Tribio.8531:

L2P.. No profession is better than the other one, it’s the player behind the keyboard that controls the character..
Give me a thief, and I’ll suck monkey balls.. Give me a ranger, and I’ll do some mayhem..

That’s why there are a lot of rangers in PVP boards. Because no one except you knows how to play correctly with the class. I see now…

Tribio.8531:

If you fail to use the skills decently and just like to complain about how broken they are.. sigh
Every time I use LB#3 I want to hide.. And guess what? I hide! Don’t be kitten and pull of barrage before going stealth, kitten

Can we overcome this broken mechanics?? Yes. But undoubtedly would be more fun if we could actually focus in the strategy to follow in our attack instead having to think “oh no, i can’t use LB#5 because i could need to use LB#3 in the 15 seconds” or “i can’t choose piercing arrows trait if i’m using a LB”.

This class is about mobility and skirmish as you pointed before and any skill that limit that behavior is just BROKEN.

WyrdenCN.8329:

The range of a longbow is 1800 (estimated). Yes the tooltip states 1500, however projectiles fly a bit further. (you can check it yourself, move past 1500 range from your target, there will be a red bar below your skills once they are theoretically out of range. Shoot your arrow when you see the red bar. You will hit your target anyway. ‘’The projectile flies in a small arc and can actually hit targets outside of the maximum range.’’ < from the wiki.)

I would not lie to try and win a discussion, and please do not make it personal by saying that most people rarely play ranger aside from yourself when you are the one ill informed, why thank you. : )

Ok, i didn’t realize that. I though it was because another bug that limit in some way the shown limit of the LB to 1200. That’s good to know. Not that actually matters without the trait of Read the Wind.

With the rest of your comment i agree completely. But you shouldn’t be worried about all rangers becoming bearbow now. With the ranger is a natural progression from fully ranged to melee, just takes time and learning to do the change gradually because this class is so difficult to play well.

Actually i think the cast times are Ok with the pets.
The cast time only take longer if the pet need to get in range of the objetive, only when is in range begin the actual cast time.
But it indicated in the skill bar like is casting. That’s ok allow you to know is going to cast as soon as possible.

also if the pet can’t cast the skill won’t trigger so it seems that is unresponsive. Same with F3 skill. If the pet is stunned or immobilized the skill it won’t trigger.

Haters gonna hate anyway.
5 rangers together can reck many things, although all the broken skills and traits, because in average we have to be better.
So enjoy, and laugh at that thieve that though “weeee free lot bags!!”

DanSH.6143:

How easy do you want longbow to be? Why do you want ranger to be a low skill floor class?
Imo it’s great that you have to think about how you use your skills tacticly, and not just spam them.

Anyway, you ussually want to channel Barrage in stealth (Hunter’s Shot -> Barrage) so you shouldn’t realy be in the situation of barrage not letting you stealth.
There’s also no reason to be using traps with a longbow build, but even if you do – be smart about it, you always have to think a few steps ahead.

Hunter’s Shot is working as intended, this is a L2P issue.

How easy? That sounds like when steve jobs said “you are not holding the phone right”.

Please spare me the L2P bs. It’s not about how you play is about doing things right. The skill is broken because is does not work as it supposed to be, you use it when you need to hide. Right now you must have too many things in mind thing that take the fun out from playing this class.

As i said this kind of problems you don’t have with other classes. That’s why is easier to play with them and not because the are OP compared to the ranger.
The ranger has many of his mechanics broken: Sword#3 doesn’t hit most of the time, Sword#1 root in place even delaying new commands, you can’t evade when needed.

If i use LB#3 is because i have to hide. Period. If i use Sword#2 is because i need to evade. When this things don’t work reliably we can say the skill is BROKEN. And we have many of this already.

Invictus.1503:

There is another thread on this same topic. Frankly when I think Druid, I think the Shapeshifting Druid from D&D.

Wishful thinking on my part is that in the video shown, we didn’t see a Druid and his pet. We saw two Druids, one in human form wielding the staff, and the other in wolf form. Neither had a pet because the pet mechanic is removed when specializing in Druid.

It’s a far shot, but perhaps Anet was being sneaky

Me likey that one!!

Darkness.9732:

Impossible man.
Ranger is the most broken class in this game. After 2 years and half Anet hasn’ t fixed it.
My personal opinion is that they didn’ t put enough efforts to fix it.
So…I doubt they will add new pets for ranger couse they don’ t care about rangers and everyone knows it.
It’ s not stranger that in every point of interest episodes devs never use ranger…

Ralanost.8913:

It would be nice if minion AI wasn’t complete garbage. Decided to mess around and go full minion on my necro. Most things I fought, half of my minions didn’t even attack. I don’t even get how AI is that bad.

Sorry i couldn’t avoid. I have a necro and a ranger and i have to say necro is the most broken. Then the ranger.

But yes, you don’t have this kind of problems with other classes. All the traits/skills works as intended or understood.
Here we have a source of continuous disappointment from Anet.

About new pets, FIRST they need to rework all pets mechanics. Having the SAME pet with different skins is just really lame. We have to do an scavenger hunt for them, reward us with a different pet at least.

And once we are with it, please make the pets deeper with traits and customizable skills to improve our control over them, seen that the A.I. fixing is not going to be done.

Tribio.8531:

anduriell.6280:

But it does if you use LB#5 (same weapon) and then try to use LB#3. Same with piercing arrows. And traps you set like 1 min before.

That is the correct behaviour.. LB#5 is an AoE that takes some time, so you stealth, the next arrow from your barrage hits, and you’re revealed..
Again: stealth is removed when you do damage. That’s the principle, always has been, and always will be (at least in this game)..
Would you expect a thief to be able to stealth after he started his daggerstorm?

It is not the same in this case and as i said we could use the easy programmatically fix as i pointed.
However each class has it’s own mechanics so this could be not applied to any other class because they have utility skills that are actually an attacking one we do not.

The only sources of real damage we have are weapon skills. So for the rangers would be enough to check if any skill from 1 to 5 has being pressed to be revealed.
Our LB#3 only last 3 seconds and with that i don’t think could be OP. Having that control would fix also all this problems about using piercing arrows, barrage or whatever right now make that skill completely BROKEN.

However to fix your assumption with dagger storm would be instead using skills 1-5, using a flag for “damage” skills. So when one of those is activated(pushing the button) the stealth is off.
Then the revealed effect could be used as well for Lightning Reflexes that do some damage when cast (although the damage is so low shouldn’t be there..).

With that they could fix any problem in the future. The Barrage has a cast time of 2 secs and execution time is around 6 seconds.

Does it mean we can’t use LB#3 for all that time?

Same problem with traps. Pet and condition damage is not taken in consideration. Why should be traps? We should be able to set them and be able to hide without the fear that any foe will trigger them and reveal us.

Also please,if any Anet staff is reading this: If we are hidden pet should NOT follow us in any case. They are making this skill completely useless.

At the end, the skill is for so narrowed use that make it mostly useless in most situations.

WyrdenCN.8329:

anduriell.6280:

No, i meant the best asset for the ranger is the bow. If you give that up you’ll loose efficiency. that’s ok if you want to have some fun and change play style but you will loose efficiency.

Is any of them less efficient?

1500 is the max range of the LB traited. Please keep it real, sometimes it looks like i’m talking to ppl didn’t play with a ranger ever.

You are right, and you have all the bearbows to prove it. LB is not good (i don’t even mean efficient, because actually is more a liability than a helpful weapon) for melee. That’s why i said: use LB (SB right now is too nerfed) and a melee set.

You can have it all with the ranger, that’s the beautiful thing about this class. You can use LB to kitten the foe and you get bored you can close range pretty quick with melee.
Sword does a lot of damage really quick. Combine with a dagger or torch.

Also we are supposed to have some evades to get far from the foe, the greatly discussed LB#4 (PBS) or Sw#2 for example. Shame the SW#1AA is broken rooting you to place, so you can’t call any other skill when executing SW#1-2(the longest of all 3 AA).

So, in your case you want to get into melee, you can hit for a few swings (we don’t have sustain to stay for long time in melee) and get away to swap to LB#4 and LB#2. You can have as many stats as you want, we don’t have enough sustain to keep a melee combat, and when you get away to heal you loose precious dps you could inflict there.

We do cripple with almost all weapons and some pets can immobilize/fear at demand.

To be as good class as the others to play we only need more sustain and fix the broken mechanics in skills, traits and pets. I don’t have this kind of problems with the guardian, really. But as i said, right now negating LB for the ranger is to loose a lot of utility and damage that weapon provide.

Cufufalating.8479:

I have to agree with Jim on this. I don’t see any benifit from you build as oppose to using a more typical trait setup.

Just changing a few things can give you this

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNAT8XjEq0waJLusQ1ag+ga9DEAJQrfw9VEEp9B/q9A-T1CBABPqEkHVN2S5hh6AmSJGOqlAwDAQFNBPYiBp9H0TjQAAEAO6Q3ZIFQELjA-w

Have much better condition control, much better Stun Breaking options, more or less the same tankiness (more Health, less armour) and more damage (more Power, same Crit damage, same Crit Chance when factoring in the fury uptime).

And the torch would be my very last choice for a power build. Any of the other 3 OH weapons would bring way more to the table.

Thank you very much for your input. You are right and i went back to the axe offhand. I’ll try dagger that i don’t have much experience with right now.
Although i have other classes leveled the one i enjoy the most is the ranger for its pet and for its flexibility to swap between ranged and melee when it’s needed although as i pointed in other threads i think the class is needed of a lot of love from Anet.
i’m trying a new build based in your input i’ll let you know how works.

But it does if you use LB#5 (same weapon) and then try to use LB#3. Same with piercing arrows. And traps you set like 1 min before.
The correct behaviour for this skill would be: if the player does not hit 1 to 5 skill won’t be revealed. Easy to program and will give the rangers a lot of different ways to use the skill, thus will be a real utility skill same as LB#4.

WyrdenCN.8329:

anduriell.6280:

lol please, the other players where really really bad compared to the ranger, and even in that case he had a lot of trouble. Even the youtuber states that in the video.
That is what i always say. If you are very good and the other is a noob indeed you can use whatever you want.
That doesn’t mean is viable or playable.

Really?

‘’Ranger, that means ranged right? so if you go melee, you must suck!’’

Picture this:
The game is something like this: Rock – Paper – Scissors
Lets pretend that rock is the melee ranger.
Can rock beat scissors? Yes it can.
Does it still lose against paper? Yes it does.
Does that make Rock less viable then either paper or scissors? Not in the slightest.
You say however that rock sucks, great opinion, but do not state as a fact that its not viable or playable.

Its not like being full melee ranger has no counters, and neither does any other build in this game. That does not mean however that it cannot do well against some other specs. How often people make comments about rangers not being able to stand their ground against :insert class here: (warriors or guardians or aything) in melee, while some of us actually win most fights as a full melee ranger against them!

Just because the build does not display your view of the class (in other words, does not have a bow) you still cannot say that playing a full melee ranger is any less viable or playable then any other spec in the game. as long as the player can make it work.

And some of us, can make it work. even in high levels of PvP and WvW.
Does that really mean that everyone we play and win against as melee ranger sucks?

If that’s the case, better pick up that longbow then to pretend like we can actually have skill!
(Because if you win as melee ranger your opponent sucks and if you win as a longbow ranger you played well.)
/sarcasm

No, i meant the best asset for the ranger is the bow. If you give that up you’ll loose efficiency. that’s ok if you want to have some fun and change play style but you will loose efficiency.

Lazze.9870:

For the love of Quaggans, don’t use words like “viable” and “playable” if you can’t comprehend the meaning of them.

was it that bad? What did i say?

With the latest changes to Torch. Wouldn’t you think it deserves a try?
For me does wonders, easy to kill groups once the are on top of you…

After this assertions it’s clear to me you don’t play with a ranger in the game.
let’s begin:

The principle of stealth clearly mentions that it’s removed the moment you do dmg..
And I’m still not convinced that LB#3 with Piercing Arrows will reveal you if it hits more than one person.. Can someone really confirm this please?
Have never noticed it in the past

Other people in this thread is confirming you that. Also i don’t know were you get the idea of “do damage” when the skill states “when attack”. Even in that case, the “do damage” should be taken as “direct damage” instead “any damage caused by any effect by the ranger”. It’s only 3 seconds stealth.
As i said, this skill is useless because is broken.

Tribio.8531:

Maybe something to keep in mind: All our opponents deduce that we are right next to our pet (when we are stealthed). So LB#3 and direct your pet to aggro something else (in range).. You’ll be amazed how silly your opponent is rushing to your pet, assuming you are right there. In the meantime you can channel your barrage or whatever..

I don’t have to keep anything in mind, i manage my pet and even in that case the pet follow you. If the pet is dead it follows you. If it kills the enemy it follows you because you can’t attack.
So again: BROKEN.

Tribio.8531:

Do enlighten me: If it’s really that broken, how come people actively play swords and axes? Seems broken to you, but maybe – no offence meant – that is a L2P issue?

Simple, because even it’s broken ppl keep using them because are the best choice. So you can imagine how the rest are.
SW#1 root in place and is a nightmare dodge/call other skill in those cases.
Axe#5 the same. Too short range and it roots you. BROKEN.

I think Anet should give the ranger a propper mechanics to play, right now you only have ONE choice to play with ranger: LB + SW/AXE.

Tragic Positive.9356:

…
Furthermore, I believe you are playing a Ranger, not a thief to escape or use stealth offensively. You are a Ranger. You should use it for fighting and using surroundings in your advantage.
…

Sorry, i stopped reading there.

LB#4 and LB#3 are completely different things. LB#3 should be an utility skill and does not work like that.

The correct way for this skill to work is: if you attack AFTER the LB#3 is being used you loose your stealth. Not because a trap is triggered or you piercing arrow hit twice.
Also the pet does not follow you when in stealth if the pet is not hidden. Ever.

Then the skill would work as intended. Until that is just another broken and useless skill in our bar together with sw#1 and axe#5. (That I can thin of now)

But the problem is still there. You are rooted with WD, the range is too short and the damage is for 3 foes only and meh.
So this bump actually Is justified. I still don’t know why the ppl still says that axe offhand is a good weapon…

Sagramor.7395:

Lazze.9870:

anduriell.6280:

Also trying to make the ranger pure melee is like trying to make the guardian pure ranged. It will not work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPS21-PMbh0

L2P.

And that’s with Sword #1 on autocast.

lol please, the other players where really really bad compared to the ranger, and even in that case he had a lot of trouble. Even the youtuber states that in the video.
That is what i always say. If you are very good and the other is a noob indeed you can use whatever you want.
That doesn’t mean is viable or playable.

SuzukiMethod.4732:

If you have piercing arrows, then you will get stealth off of the first target hit, and then revealed on the second. If not, then it was most likely dodged, blocked or you were blinded.

Yes, it could be that.
But then again: Isn’t that a bug? If you are using piercing arrows this skill is usseles because is broken?

Vikkela.7261:

anduriell.6280:

LB#3 is broken for the following reasons:

It has to hit.

Requiring a skill to land your target for it to have its desired effect does not make a skill broken…

Yes, it is broken when it depends on when the arrow hits or not and how many targets. So you use a trait or another skill is executing and LB#3 doesn’t work.

The definition of broken skill.

Also just saying but i haven’t seeing this kind of broken-beyond-repair skills and mechanics in any other class in the game. Looks like Anet is pushing us to became a druid or leave the class.

I don’t play pvp but this build looks like a lot of fun. I guess noone would expect a LB to apply bleeding + burning

Yes, sorry.
I meant i have already shared anguish + evasive purity in addition to SoR.
To have another stun breaker i should loose mobility or protection and i wouldn’t like that.

And the other stun breakers are kind of broken. We get that a lot with the ranger skills and traits.
Lightning reflexes works always the direction your character is facing, not the direction of the camera. That’s a problem when you can not turn because you are immobilized or stunned.

Protect me depends on the pet. And in WvW is always a very bad idea depend on the pet at all. Usually they are dead before even the combat begins. Even if you manage them is really difficult to keep them alive.

So i don’t see any other choice. Of course i would like to be able to change the elite slot for another skill instead an elite but we can’t have that.
So within the limitations of the ranger i think this are the best choices i could do.

About the torch. I used the Sw/Axe before but the WD only can hit up 3 enemies. Not good enough when you want to get pressure off you.
Torch otherwise is being improved and can do a decent amount of damage as crowd control.

Yes i agree but would would you do it?

Harnel.6810:

It can be in two circumstances. The first is that if you’re invisible, it’s much easier to stomp people. The second is for the Remorsless Marksmanship Grandmaster Trait, which makes it so that every time you get a kill or go into stealth you get Opening Strike back.

Prysin.8542:

Asking if ONE skill outta 5 is “viable”?
Just reroll already if you cannot handle the few quirks any weapon has.

He’s not asking about the longbow, he’ asking about the skill. Don’t be a jerk.

Also 5 skills should work as intended. LB#3 is broken for the following reasons:

It has to hit.

Most of the times if you are moving when shoot the stealth is lost. Don’t kitten me why, you simply get out of it almost right away. You any get a glimpse of the effect.

Even if you get invisible your pet will follow you. So your enemies will know here you are anyway.

You are right, it is not pure melee.
But I found the traits for GS and one hand weapon are not compatible. Or you trait one or the other but you can’t have both.
So to get the best of both I developed this build. It get the most of both worlds so you can melee or range, your choice.

After the last patch torch got more usable. You can keep now the foes at bay with torch#5 while hitting hard with your sword.

I find axe main hand too slow, and GS is slow compared to SW. When fighting another player the SW do more pressure.

Also trying to make the ranger pure melee is like trying to make the guardian pure ranged. It will not work