srry i guess i need to be more specific i kinda thought it was ovious the fact that thieves r not totally with out any support skills at all .
and i though i would be fine trying to keep it short and just say
“every class but the thief has support skills”
but what i mean by this is that the thief is more of a solo roaming class
and the other classes r meant to focus on team play more
and that does not mean the thief can not participate in team play
and that does not mean other class can not solo roam . but the thief is designed for it !
we have far fewer support skills than other classes
and i have not seen very many venom share thief’s running around .
the thief is not incapable of support but it is not support that benefits your team the same as the number of combo feilds an element can lay down … thief’s main support is to spam blast finishers so an element and a thief can work together well .
when i play thief i go thief hunting and keep thieves off my strong elements no wait no matter what class i am playing i like to protect the elements i love to have elements in my party for group fights in wvw .build a team to work with !
every class but the thief has team support skills!
elements r support/ large aoe. u can just drop bombs in a packed zerg area and watch people just get blasted . elements also have the highest skill ceiling of any class so unless u r really good!
u need to be with your team giving them support !
and letting them use all your combo fields !
u r a valuable class and classes around should protect u and use your combo fields as much as they can !
and let u nuke people !
a thief can not do any of that
a thief has very few aoe skills we r mainly single target class and elements being squishy and being left open by there team r a prime target !
play your class people. better team play.
not mindless zerging … have your party of 5 and work together
with your team based classes !
support classes do not get enough credit
and there r way to many people that don’t even know what a combo field is lol
is that not what the thief is meant to do by being the highest dps class in the game drive away other classes from using full zerk !
so the other classes play a more defensive team built play style !
people need to stop crying because they died and talk about what there class needs to compete with ?X? on a balanced lvl .
not nerf nerf nerf till we do 1-10 damage and have pillows for swords !
i can’t see how taking away gives u more ?
adding traits and skills opens up builds !
a game that takes options or nerfs your options with out a buff is not fun. a game that gives u more options as more content comes out it gets more interesting and more fun !
keep the veterans interested with new skills and new builds and attracting more people by growing not taking away. no one wants to play a dulled down version of what first came out!
but people will all ways be negative .
it is easier to cry than be positive and come up with something new.
just as it is easier to take away. than it is easier to build !
it is like getting watered down soda lol
that is what happens when everyone cries because they got killed from every lil thing like a bunch of preschoolers ….
this is op that is op everything is op !
lets all just do damage between 1-10 and have pillows for swords lol
lyssa is not op .
i can’t even tell u how many times i wish i had a rune set better than lyssa lol it is just a useful balanced good rune sets and a lot of other runes #6 need to be kicked up some and may be even decrease cool down times on a lot of the runes
is this still even a arguement the mesmer has the most boon striping of any class ! next to the necromancer that can turn those boons in to conditions !
the mesmer can handle those boons the thief steals easy !
thiefs boon steal is a joke compared to the mesmers boon rips !
a mesmer can keep loads of boons off of u …. some r aoe boon rips not just null feild which is really good.
take a second look at your skills and traits u can almost spam boon rips …
yes i know what mesmers r know for but it does not mean a simple utility swap or what ever works for u . u can still cripple boons nice
if u r a mesmer ever think about your skill arcane thievery . that will put a dent in that skill right away …. “counter attack”
the sigil that removes boons and null feild
mind stab the gs wep move
lol u have a boon rip on your one hand sword auto attack ! add boon rip sigil to
phantasmal disenchanter !
there might be more but u r telling me u have problems with to many boons !
o wait there is your shatter skill can remove boons !
signet of inspiration!
to tie it all to gather u can send all boons on u to your team ! stick close to a guard !
ill take it one step ferther with lyssa runes so u can get all boons than use the signet to give your team all the boons !
so if there is any class the thief gets all boons from the mesmer can handle it !
corrupt boons the necromancer skill will make a fool of anyone running lyssa !
Well, it doesn’t exactly since it only converts 5 boons into conditions while there’s 9 boons total.
it does a good job at it because after they use there elite u can load them up with more conditions . unless they have more condition cleans traited .
it is by no means a insta kill but u totally took the wind out there sails XD
u have well of corruption to
and if they change the blind swap on fury to a better condition would be nice
corrupt boons the necromancer skill will make a fool of anyone running lyssa !
it is 5 secs of boons it is not that tough to deal with and skills like arcane thievery the mesmer skill r really fun to use vs some one with lyssa XD
i don’t want my boring dungeon runs to take any longer i have ran them all way to many times
they put me to sleep i am glad we can power house our way through a dungeon.
lol u need to increase the amount of gold for dungeons if u want us to spend more time in them !
the only way dungeons will ever be interesting .is if they have random grenerated dungeons so u don’t run the same old thing all the time !
till then just let the vets power house there way through dungeons .
and let the noobs take there time and have fun with it it’ll they get bored and can no longer stand to run them anymore and they will swap to zerk!
nerfs r not fun ! if u have worked for some thing and it gets nerfed hard enough to make u go buy new junk it is not fun !
i wish nerfs where not so common. and we had more skills and viriety of traits .
y it is not op ?
most r defensive boons !
they r making all the runes better . y make this under powered when they r making every rune viable .
y nerf a rune that is viable for every class !
what class r u playing that makes u think lyssa is op !
the boons r more deffinsive than power . the only real damage increase is from the boon furry .
i can’t think of a class i would not run it on … there may be better rune choises for your build but i can’t think of a class that can’t make good use of it !
lets just make lyssa under powered like most of the runes ! instead of leaving it viable for everyone lol ?!?!?!?!?
lol this is insane they better make it so u can craft your precursor . i know people that have got 2 precursor drops .
and i have ben playing as long as them with nothing :S
even a # of arch points would be better than random drop.
ya i know i can go champ farm run dungeons till my eyes bleed & grind for gold with out spending for like a 2 month +
but i thought this game was not about grinding and that is a snooze fest .
random drop = grind with out any expectiation of when u may aquire
i run lyssa runs on my thief i mean they r nice . but i would rather have travel runes right now +10 boon duration +10 condition damage + 25% movement speed . which would let me open a utility
… what class r lyssa runes not good on !
i think they r balanced
i want them for my guard
i think they should leave lyssa alone … and they said they r making all the runes viable so if the new runes that they r working on r as good as they made them sound. they should fall right in place with lyssa , divinity and so on
y would u make this traited ?
this is just meant to be a simple fix to improve quality of life for everyone can’t see how it would be op if every one can use there skills at max distance it is a equal improvement for every one
insta cast could use a fix so u can click a skill with the mouse drag it and let go.
right now if u click and try to drag with insta cast . the aoe aimer gets stuck at your feet
the title of this thread should be changed to gw2 life improvement
i just want to add . traits with a cool down should have a on screen timer so we know when it is ready !
the devs did say eles have the highest skill ceiling !
there for u need to have the best grasp of game mechanics to play them well ! comes with the roll that element needs more skill than a war to be good.. saying a war needs more skill than a element is like saying a stop sign says go !
element is a good class but u REALLY need to under stand how to use your skills to the max to be good
and i am not saying war does not take skill …. there is LOT of bad wars
some wars r like gods just slapping u around
lol i really don’t think it is that bad .
there counters to ALOT of thief builds for a lot of classes
lockdown mesmer / condition mesmer . condition mesmer is better vs a sword thief . sword is not single target and u r bound to hit clones on accident !
teleport lock down nuke guard
i can keep going but focus on lock downs burst and aoe and u will have a dead thief
sniper war can mess up a thief from the side lines if u time your shots wait for reviled strong wars can one shot a thief pretty easy ,,,and wars r just insane right now if u build them right .
any control skills on a thief will really mess them up
thief lives by movement they will die by lack of movement !
counters and knowing there skill rotations to hit them when it hurts the most !
lol if a thief got kills with a single dagger single pistol or single sword…. u know the wep set that has 3 skills lol
they would find some way some how to say it was op
the thief has evades on all wep sets because we die in 2 hits !. and spamming the evade on the sword is a bad idea it is very situational and if they have no boons u don’t want to use LS to waste initiative . back stab builds still have better survival and can drop a s/d thief with a good back stab
d/p is where it is at . u can move through a zerg like a ghost ! u r beating a old horse that has counters to it !
wars r insane right now if u build them right !
lol idk if it is just me …. but a D/D or D/P back stab build is still better . they have way more survivle specially D/P .
y r u beating a old horse lol .
wars r way better if built right lol .
had a war to day wipe out 2 skilled thieves . mesmer element guard war 3 rangers . all really skilled vs one war ! used no boons had mad def even when endure pain was not up & great attack ! have no idea what he was running.
but this is old news .
ya i think so . or buff the other classes idk . ok with both
but i have only seen a few really incredible wars where it is like r they just hacking lol .
i want to know what kind of war this was ? . used very little boons almost none, the only boon i ever noticed was regen
super bunker . killed off 2 thief’s a mesmer a guard element 3 rangers most all skilled lvl 80 . one under lvl 60+ that where focused on just him in side the keep . npc where not a problem … was a small guild team . even when endure pain was not up had REALLY high def with still really good attack .
does anyone know what he was running that was so good with out any boons ?
3 spam does not do much damage . all it does is strip one boon every second move if it hits … u need to spam it if u want to steal enough boons to make a difference
which leaves u with no initiative :S
it is not even a good idea to spam it unless they have way to many boons
srry . but idk y it is important to try to make dungeons tougher and longer as everyone just wants to get it done as fast as they can .
idk might be just me but dungeons r not fun after your first playing them .
y make people try harder to grind some thing they don’t want to grind that is not fun … thats y they try to do it in 7 sec lol XD if its just not fun lets get it done quick !
ya every lil hill and bump makes it impossible to aim aoe skills at max distance . i wish it just did not go in the red zone
so that when your mouse is out of range of your skill u can click and it will cast at the max distance . with out u finding the sweet spot where it does not hit red
your skills distance is always getting cut because of uneven ground
this drives me crazy lol ….. and i don’t like to have up my volume because i feel like it might mess up my speakers .
lol i though i was the only one this happened to
lol omaris i know why u mean if i have up my volume lol it can make u jump a lol
they really should just make ascend gear stats able to be changed out like legends so no one needs to worry about there class being nerfed when they make changes.
and no one needs to worry about spending an insane amount of time/money just to get a second set of ascend gear !
and no one wants them to come out with legend armor and amulets because all that means is more grinding on a game that says u don’t need to grind !
or if they do come out with legend armor and amulets… it should be REALLY easy to craft a full set after u get a FULL ascend set . just so we can swap out our stats with out spending double time on everything lol
ok this has ben bugging me XD
in pvp . when u r by your gear locker …. if u look on the map there is this lil island all by its self !
and if u go to the end of the lvl u can kinda see the island !
there should be some rings u can duel in there so people can test there gear
and not just on the lame npc u have every where else in the pvp common area
just make ascend gear stats swapable like on the legend weps . so i don’t need to worry about all the time and money i have wasted on my thief getting all this ascend gear
would just make every thing sooooo much better
not to be pressured after putting all this time in
…. lol i know what they will do instead
they will drop the damage by -10% now and make all of our ascend gear like exotic than they will come out with legend armor rings and amulets lol
and the legend gear will be as strong as the ascend is now lol
i really hope that is not what they meant when they said we have more stuff coming later down the line lol
:S lol right after i finish lvling my armor weapon and huntsman crafting and got ascend in all of them .
idk but with a drop in damage some thing to help compensate to help survive would be nice . wish they would add back the stun breaker on the sword . or some other kind of survival .
because as of now damage is the only way i can survive and i am thinking a -10% decrease will really hurt
i am a s/d +sb thief
i don’t know how hard this damage nerf will hit my thief .
i mean there is all ready some wars guards else and mesmers any class but ranger that if they r played right they can put a real hurting on your thief with out u being able to do enough damage !
and i have plenty zerk gear
should i just finish lvling my 55 mesmer before the the crit damage patch?
all i can think is after this is my thief will be a joke compared to condition builds !
and i just like mesmer because it is the next closest tricky style like thief
i have seen people hacking …
moving from camp to castles in a blink of an eye
u would not know he was there but u would see a name tag blur and he was building rams at castles .
as a second small group would start to ram he would move to the next and start to build … i would have reported but he moved to fast to click on and report
the only trap i have ever used really is shadow trap … but i really don’t like to use it because when u teleport if there is a bush of a tree or a hill it will catch on that . and because u got stuck on a tree and did not teleport to your rightful position it was a total waist of a ulitility .i really wish that they would fix it so u don’t catch on every lil hill tree and bush and be stopped in your tracks. will this ever be fixed?
it feels like a broken skill even though it can be strong
sword 2 don’t u need to be locked on ! same with infiltrator signet! roll for initiative pushes u back …. isn’t with drawl a heal skill that pushes u back to so u need to turn around to move forward .lol a lil ridiculous just to chase a war down !
i would say war if u want to move fast a thief can’t out run a war . u didn’t like the guard because a thief can out run u idk . i say go to war . or go guard . and just not worry about thief’s running . or engine . u can have a bad @s5 looking engine still … elements r pretty sweet to . i have a lot of fun as a element and d/d elements can be fast
I’ll be back after I record me flying by a mobility warrior. Shadowstep chaining allows you to travel eons faster than any warrior could hope to. Just this morning my group of myself, 3 warriors and a FGS ele were asking me to slow down because I was killing dolyaks and flipping camps before they’d get there. We started at the same location.
yes if u chain shadow step u can move a great distance.but shadow step has a cool down so u have like one good chance to catch up to a war if u have it in your utilities and most thief’s do but none the less a war is still really fast !.srry i did not specify about shadow step chain…….. god viking jorun u spend way to much time on the forums lol got to be 100% specific when viking jorun lives on these forums !
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