Guild Wars 2

Make the money reward for getting to the top of a free tourny.

First place , 50 silver, second place 25 silver. If ppl want to come into pvp to farm money, they will have to win a fair bit of free tournies, which means actual competitive effort, to get it done.

No money for hot joins.

What defective said, if your serious about pvp get onto those servers. And hurry free xfers end on the 28th of this month i think.

The problem is that they eventually plan to have Lan tournaments.
In a lan, you wont be able to use macros cause they can PHYSICALLY see you.

So, anyone planning to be a top player is better off not macroing anyway.

stop playing hotjoins.

and who cares, glory means nothing.

I’ve said this time and time again. The constant attempts to monatize Pvp are a large part of whats keeping pvp from growing.

Actually thiefs have had nerfs, cluster bomb was nerfed.
Dancing dagger was nerfed.
Few other things, cant think of top of my head.

The fraction of the ppl who play it to watch it is really low, but in terms of absolute numbers, esports is quite popular.

Not sure what ur asking for eonx But league of legends has 10’s of thousands of viewers non stop on twitch tv.

@ point 4. nerfing aoe is the opposite of dumbing down the game. Aoe takes less skill and focus fire coordination to win a team fight. Buffing aoe would dumb down the game, not nerfing it.
@ arenanet.

LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. The more barriers to entry you put up in terms of trying to monotize the system the more likely it is to fail. You need to help this game become popular in pvp, charging people doesnt help with this. find a way to allow the masses to compete please.

My first recommedaation for you woudl be to transfer to Eu’s main pvp server. Idk what that is, if u where on NA id say head to anvil rock.

At any rate, oversight or not, its something u can use to spot the real mesmer.

Here is a really subtle one, the real mesmer has an off hand weapon. Duplicates freqently (if ever?) dont display the weapon in the off hand.
Obviously the tranluscent clones are easy to identify.

Macroing, i think is rather common, however, few if any of the top players will macro, because once you get to serious tournies, u can’t use em, so bad habit to pick up.

Alas, alot of ppl are floating the no macro rule, mesmers and thiefs in particular.

ARe ppl nuts? thiefs are not overpowered, nor are they weak. They are, a little annoying.
But if you watch high end play, the top three classes are ele, gaurdian, mesmer, in any particular order, depending on who you talk to. But those , NOT thieves, are the top classes.

Try to identify the real mesmer the following way. If it backs up, rolls, stops attacking for a second, mark it with your assist key and it will stay on it, unless he stealths.

Learn to identifity when a shatter is coming, you will see an illusion spawn from the mesmer and charge quickly at you, that should be dodged otherwise burst is to follow. If you are using elxisir s, use that to dodge the burst if u get rooted and caught.

3. Some engy aoe immobolizes will prevent mesmer shatter if u time it right.
4. 100 nades isnt the best 1on1spec unless u get the drop on someone, probalby y u have trouble w mesmers, so either avoid 1on1, or fight em more conventionally and try to aoe like a motherkitten to get them down.

Braxxus.2904:

Sure would be nice if people realized that nationalism and pride based on geographical location is one of the most asinine and profoundly stupid thought processes humans possess.

so is its opposite associated guilt. Every bit as pernicious

I find trying to outwit/guess them fun.

I bet , whoevers better, its really close.

I would prefer dedicated healers, BUT you cant add them at this phase to GW2.
It would be wrong to those who dont like em and require too much change.

I found playing gw2 i miss the holy trinity a bit, but this game is what it is, i think of it more like leauge of legends than an mmo.

The burst roamer specs that thiefs employ is not particularlly useful in 1on1. So, they are best joining existing fights. Or 2vs1. they can kill you quick, but wont likely win a 1on1.

Deified.7520:

daydream.2938:

Umm eles are more powerful than thiefs in the meta, and right there with mesmers.
However, lack of build diversity on some classes is a big issue.
I think they mentioned in a webcast they would be looking into this.

I’m not saying which is more powerful, i was talking about what I see more often. I currently see more thiefs than elementalist.

You will see more eles than thiefs in paid.
But ya thiefs are fairly popular in free’s.

Umm eles are more powerful than thiefs in the meta, and right there with mesmers.
However, lack of build diversity on some classes is a big issue.
I think they mentioned in a webcast they would be looking into this.

Thiefs are middle of the pack in SPvp.
While power order of classes has some wiggle room, heres a conventional list
1. gaurdian.
2. ele.
3.mesmer
4. necro.
5. thief.
6. ranger
7. warrior.
8. engy.

Or another list.
1. mesmer.
2. ele.
3. gardian
4. thief
5. necroc
6. ranger etc
So while theres some debate about exaclty which classes are the best, and which are the worst, theres a pretty consistant image of the tier of classes. ie top tier, mesmer, guardian ele, mid tier, ranger thief necro. and botton tier, warrior engy.

So,

Point is, thiefs are middle of the pack in terms of spvp, despite backstab being what it is. Nerf back stab and youll drive theifs down to where engies are or worse.

At this point, the deal is done. healers cant come into the game.

i like no healers, at least, it doesnt bother me.

I was sad that players in my guild from a previous game, in some cases didn’t come to gw2 because they liked playing dedicated healers.

I’ll tell you what the biggest issue is, unless you happen to run on anvil rock, your likely to be solo quing or just joining hot joins. Most heart of the mists are empty.

If there was some way to make it easier to find ppl in spvp for teamups, that would help.

I solo Q for tournies alot. and its not infrequent that someone on my team notices we are fighitng a premade and decides to afk.

Which is so annoying as it completely messes up the rest of your teammates. HOpefully a matchmaking system would cut down on this. I dont mind fighting tougher opponents, but i hate having teammates who constantly give up/afk or outright quit.

Actual on topic advice for the Op.

If someones where you cant reach, you cant reach em, simple as that. theres only a few things u can try.

1. blcok can kite u a bit through wells.
2. sometimes the wells wont cover all the point stand in the area it doesnt.
3. its ok to step off point for a second or two then back on, especially if u can then knock off the person ur fighting on point.

and most importantly 4.

get a team that helps you by taking out the necro. 2on1, you cant hold a point by yourself assuming ur fighting equally skilled players, eventually they will get you.

ARE you crazy ? I main a mesmer and let me tell you this, the last thing we need is a buff.

Outside of elemenatlist and then gaurdian we are the third most in demand class. RUn by nearly every top team, many of whom will tell you the power of having a mesmer is amazing.
IN organized voice program teams, portal and timewarp are quite frankly , basically OP.

Its because the ranks do nothing (other than unlock apperance gear) that they can make them take forever.

Ive never been hit w elixir S up.
Are you sure what you weren’t taking damage from was condition ticks?

Stability is a boon, and can be removed. So what was likely happend is someone boon stripped you then kded you.

Mesmer gaurdian , ele , ele, X.

seems to be becoming quite a common composition lately.

I think casual gamers would play spvp alot more if they could progress in it.

Im not saying that SPVP itself should have progression/gear. Im glad it doesnt. I’m saying if i coudl earn tokens to turn into experience in lions arch or something so i could progress in the overworld that would be nice.

You can progress doing wvwvw, so why not SPVP?
Im not chocked up about it myself, i spvp despite this, however i know for a fact alot of casuals stay clear of spvp for precisely this reason.

@ quatre, you will find ways to deal with this a bit. First off, at least one of your three abilities that you slot should be a stun break, also dodging CC is important.
Otherwise, yap, you will be pwnt by cc.

If its any consolation, you wont last long enough against good teams if they can chain CC you to worry about diminisn returns.

So, in conclusion, stun break abilities protect you. Careful when you use them on knockdown, you gotta wait till your on the ground securly.

Give me a break, such a thief will not be good in tourny. YOu cant kill a good bunker like this. YOud probably lose/have to run away from a good ele in a 1on1 even cause you woudlnt outdps there heals without staying non invisible long enough to be dpsed down.

Double Ele is pretty common to see nowadays. Quite frankly this is such a powerful class, i think people dont complain about it because they dont get insta gibbed like they do with thief. But. Ele>thief in the meta by a mile and in terms of performance.

Hammerheart.1426:

Sprawl.3891:

how is there a real meta with like 10 regular tournament teams?

I agree. Help me fill in the gaps

Apple Banana Cherry Dragonfruit [ABCD]
Hunting High and Low [HHaL]
Delirium [DLRM]
Ex Talionis [LAW]
Champion Slayer [tPVP]
[PRO]

Not to mention that some members of these guilds are in other guilds on the list as well. Its always fun to see a team rocking different guild tags in some strange attempt at looking like a pug (but we all know better)

umm….Pz. JBUO Cute….
U know the teams with the highest QP rated players.

gemfog.2589:

I like the Tpvp restriction for each player on the team being different prof.

in theory i like this. however, what you have here is the issue with playing with friends who migh have only1 thing they know how to play.

A thing to consider is law of unintended consequences. Everyone seems to know what would balance PVP, yet if those changes where made as the public dictates it would likely make things worse.

Its useful if you run with someone with CC.
And. You can play a necro and live, or hell play a warrior burst and live, so long as your teams the one winning the fights.

=) Hman would disagree with you about the 100 b warrior.

Avast, take heart young buckeraroo. There be a new grenade spec in town. Go, get your kicks in with it while its there.

That realm, has almost all the top guilds. You see the qualifyijng points list?
More or less every player in the top fifty QP plays on anvil rock.
And its easier to find teams there. But those high end old guilds are hard to break into.
Thats why myself and some friends are trying to build our own teams.
Hit me up in game sometime and ill see if we have spots for grouping.

If you want to spvp seriously , u need to transfer to anvil rock.

You can also whisper me, im definately looking to add consistant, serious mature players to a roster. I want to build a consistant 5 man, where we can meta and stratagize as a team. And try things out. REasonable amount of talent required of course.
Right now i have 4 consistant players. and 8 would be great , that way have 5 on most nights

While this spec is interesting, and probably going to cause some QQ, id be a little suprised if it changed the real top meta any. Possibly it gives engy a viable build?
idk yet

The devs dont care? ridiculous

This is my fifth mmo. This is the fifth time i have read people post that ad nasuem on the respective game forums.

Trust me, they care. They are just limited in what they can do and say. And the community doesnt have universal demands, so what direction to go isnt always obvious. or what to prioritize.
it takes time for them to figure out some ways to go.

TPVP IS SPVP. Just not hotjoin.

its an informal custom in the community to use the word spvp to refer to hotjoin and tpvp to refer to tournies. But they are really all spvp.

1vs1 as an official game mode is dumb, however them supporting duel arenas so that people can pratice for when u stuck in 1on1 fights, or what to do thats useful.
But 1on1 is NOT balanced and therefore no official game mode can be made around this.

isnt there a fear spectator mode will lead to voip cheating?

I’m sure this exploit is well known, but in several free tournies yesterday thieves are exploiting in to base to kill lord without the door being down. I hope this is known and maybe being addressed, very frustrating to lose a mtach your winning in this matter.