Guild Wars 2

Ive seen some doom people around in wvwvw. Don’t know them though.

urieldhynne.2743:

daydream.2938:

Idk what it is with permastealth, I wvw all the time and don’t find it an issue. I think people don’t know how to deal with theifs maybe, and that gives them issues.
This strikes me as a l2p issue. Thiefs can be annoying, sure, but when it comes to being powerful in wvwvw, warriors, eles, necros, are way stronger.

The problem is not how to deal vs a thief, the problem is the thief has ABSOLUTE control over the fight end and start. If a good thief is losing they just perma stealth, reset everything and try again. If you kill the thief is a bad thief. You CANT kill a good thief, the victory comes when the thief run away permanently.

Most common situation in wvw is 3 or more players trying to kill a perma stealth/high mobility thief. The thief win? no. The ppl win? no. Is only a waste of time for everyone. And a funny moment for a trolling thief backstabbing and running away every time.

I 1on1 duel with thiefs all the time, win 80% of them. When I solo roam on my engie im often not facing other people with dueling experience and I win 90% +. Sure, sometimes the thief escapes and runs away, but meh.

And in big fights, thiefs matter way less than aoes like eles, or necros.
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It matters a lot how u spec, a lot of classes have different roaming builds vs group builds.

But. Thief/theif.
Thief/Mesmer.
Guardian/ele.

etc

Idk what it is with permastealth, I wvw all the time and don’t find it an issue. I think people don’t know how to deal with theifs maybe, and that gives them issues.
This strikes me as a l2p issue. Thiefs can be annoying, sure, but when it comes to being powerful in wvwvw, warriors, eles, necros, are way stronger.

I seem to recall reading on the main page post that it would not be changed in pvp. But don’t quote me.

What I don’t get about this change is that it would be in Anets interest to do this. It would bolster the health of the community and wvwvw presence. Though I do think a toon should be level 80 and not an uplevel to use a commander tag. Make it account bound, just with a requisite that one be level on the toon that wish’s to tag up.

What is this hated guild that hod got?

Bp was in those matchs with IOJ and yaks bend. This week we are seeing way, way , way more yaks out than we where when we where all fighting IOj. Hell, we had 4 weeks of yaks and ioj, and BP beat yaks 3 out of those 4 weeks, now we are getting clobbered. So yaks clearly has a lot more players in wvw…though its also true that BP lost a lot of players.

Yap, borlis pass lost several guilds to Fa recently. Wish them luck there.
:/

Its about 5%. It might make a difference between closely matched players, otherwise no.
However, spec matchups can matter more. If your a hgh engy who runs into a condi necro, your probably going to lose to that necro, unless hes way worse of a player than you.

I will say this, bp has a great community. and its very easy to join the server teamspeak and find people to run with, almost anytime. There are quite a few guilds to join as well, bs and vox etc for anyone whos interested in wvwvw.

Other guilds like vng or noob for players who like running smaller zerg busting or roam groups.

Two things to consider: BP has been one of the most steady servers in game history, rarely moving down much, and sometimes clawing its way up to 10th. So, if you want something that’s neither zergy, or empty, and is reliable, bp is that place.

Also, BP has had a ton of skilled GVG guilds for a mid sized server. Currently has VNG , and the recent formation of NOOB. Has had OT, REKZ, Krew. All who recently transferred off the server.
So, has a more skilled wvwvw crowd than its placement in ranks would otherwise suggest.

smithkt.8062:

daydream.2938:

Am I to gather from this thread world xp has been added and patched into game? if so yay!

Coming in the feature patch on 4/15

Well, that’s good news all the same. Out of curiosity where does one see this announced? And does it detail other stuff coming.

Am I to gather from this thread world xp has been added and patched into game? if so yay!

I really hope so, I know a lot of ppl who are frustrated this isn’t coming with season2.

Mighty Ice Arrow.9268:

27/3=9.
9 for gold, 9 for silver, 9 for bronze

Na has 24 servers. 6 , 9 , 9

Yaks bend has gotten a huge influx of players the week before season2 . Im on bp and they are literally quing outnumbering us in our bl and eternal almost everyday.

I just want to congratulate the devs for introducing team death match, one of the most common requested things. Does give some faith that they are listening.

Justin ODell.9517:

Simplest answer I can give is that it just isn’t as high a priority as other things we have been working on.

Why do you feel custom arenas do not work for those that want to duel?

Testing out builds, wvwvw is quite different from SPVP. IN Spvp there is more limited gear choices and lower stat totals. As a result some builds that exist in wvwvw are viable there but not viable in spvp.

Additionally, the meta is slightly different in wvwvw vs spvp. One might want to practice fighting on a staff ele for example, because staff is useful in big fights in wvw and you may want to get good at being 1on1 at it. Having said that, its pretty useless in spvp.
I get why its not a high priority, but there are reasons people want it.

DevonCarver.5370:

This is the type of upgrade to the system we will likely be making, but it is not a short-term project. We feel commanders aren’t getting enough mileage out of the system as it is now and we’d like to make it much, much more robust.

Remember, commanders make your game better to play. Paying 100 gold for a tag is a lot to ask of many people. Make it account bound, but simply require the character be level 80 to tag up. If more commanders, more people playing wvw. On borlis pass recently a lot of our drop in wvw population has come from losing major commanders.

Umm if your not level 80, get to level 80, people wont want you coming to do wvw on uplevel toons man.

I feel sorry for Sbi, it seems that there are really Seven tier 2/1 guilds.
So one always ends up in t3. And dominates. good for sbi for staying up there.
However, if you ever fell to t4 you would find it boring, you would destroy t4 as hard as fort aspenwood is destroying t3.

Coldin.2840:

Xenesis.6389:

NA Gold league cuts off at the top 6…
So no SoR won’t be in gold.

Oh. That’s good…I think. Not really sure how we’ll fare in Silver to be honest.

Poorly, your currently losing to bp. Having said that, SOR probably is a t6 server, so if you where in bronze youd be a contender to be on top. In silver you will do well to not place last. Which from what ive seen is possible.

Theres no word on rally being changed, but it really is working as intended, I think this is the way it is mate.

Even if u cant take sm, its usually easy to break outer wall somewhere and go in and destroy there trebs hitting ur towers.

he has a point, im on borlis pass and facing santum of rall, they don’t even belong in t4, they look like a bottom t5, or even t6 server.
So, I think it would be good for them if they could go down and get competitive matchups more quickly, rather than get stomped for weeks on end, which will probably drive there population down even more.

If a server gets completely stomped, or completely dominates it should count for way more +/- points, so that they move up or down faster.

NO q and a strong player base? you want t5 or t4 servers. I would recommend borlis pass, its friendly and has large pvp guilds.

Also good is yaks, crystal desert etc.

Umm, elementalist meteor swarm gets around the 5 cap problem.

that guild loot has seen a huge jump in members.

Honestly they should make commander tags account bound, just make it so that a toon has to be a true 80 for you to tag up. That way no uplevel commanders.

Having more commanders is good for wvwvw, and ultimately good for the game, I don’t know if Anet understands just how many people would quit there game if public commanders disappeared, they shoudltn make it harder to get them.

Ya I mean I though we were relatively even population, not going by this week.
At least SOR isn’t as bad off as I though, its not like what happened to ehmry bay. Sor will probably end up at the bottom of t5, or top of t6.

Been really fun fighting yaks from a bp perspective for a few weeks now, but holy cow did you guys get transfers or something? Or are having more people show for league bc your killing us now, and the previous 4 matchups have all been close and back and forth.

It does use supply in the tower/keep however, in addition to the small cost.

This is a matchup post worth making, congrats to vabbi.

Interesting, but a change of this magnitude just couldn’t be implemented before league, so, even if they got 100% behind this, its awhile away.

Havnig had SOR for Friday, they didn’t get completely slaughtered, just badly owned. They would actually be competitive in bronze, I think they are a tier 6 server , or thereabouts.

Sbi , I believe will be in silver league. I don’t know how you guys currently are, but a month ago borlis pass was in better shape than it is today, and we lost to sbi. so you guys probably belong in t4, but would likely be the strongest in t4. Ioj belongs in t3, and I have no idea what santum belongs in but sounds like t6-7.

Thanks jeknar, that’s good information, and seems a reasonable way to conduct the tournies. Its still somewhat of a downer that so many teams, know going in on day 1 that they have no chance. Le sigh.

Burnham.2613:

Rising Dusk.2408:

Now we spend the rest of this thread guessing which server the OP is on. My guess is SoR.

SoR would still finish in the bottom of bronze. We have very few WvW based guilds left and none of them are even remotely close to being as good as the guilds who left. SoR might very well be the worst WvW server in the entire game at the moment.

Sor may well belong in bronze but I doubt ur the worst server in game, you guys have no idea how brutal the pop is on t7, or t8. you guys got 60k points vs dragonbrand, kaineg couldn’t do that.

It wouldn’t be so bad if lowbies or very inexperienced players coming wasn’t such a huge drawback.

One of the reasons good skill groups can bigger groups, is they don’t bring rally bots.

skullmount.1758:

Arius.7031:

clint.5681:

Arius.7031:

For Dh we have only received individuals as far as I’m aware, no major guild transfers. We have, however, lost incredible amounts of people to HoD, SF, and CD.

Who did you lose to SF

Guild called [food], small roaming guild of really good dh players. Trust me, you were very lucky on that transfer in specific. HoD can have all our baddie zergballers, you got some good Dh roamers :/.

We’ve lost [food] now as well? All of them, or some?
My morale is really wavering now. I don’t want to leave Darkhaven cause I’ve been here since launch and there are still some really great people on DH, but man this is really demoralizing and making me think about it now.
If we don’t get/have anyone, we’ll never be able to do anything.

Things wax and wane, look at Ioj. FRom tier 2 once, then fell to tier 7, now they pushing back up to tier 3 which is where they should be. YOur just in a wane phase, ride it out. Look how long davonas rest was last, they have gone up 4 places in the last few months.

One huge issue with this is that ofc, a server might throw a week so as to try and fall to silver/bronze.

This is actually a really good list of suggestions, extremely unlikely they do anything with it however.

Ioj is hardly the underdog for silver season 2. they are kicking yaks and bps butt atm. Look like they will place in the top half this season.

Frosch.7809:

You know how things are on YB, you’ve been facing us for weeks. Large WvW guilds had already left for T1/2, so there wasn’t much left that we could lose to free-transfer-servers. Still, we lost one or the other small guild to HoD, one rank beneath us. We got one guild from SoR, so since the last larger WvW guild left us we’ve been roughly holding steady.

Borlis pass lost 2 of our 3 biggest wvwvw guilds to t1/2. so your not alone, its worth mention ur beating us in our current match up.

Regretfully , some matchups in league are just brutal. The top bronze server vs the bottom, the top silver vs the bottom. At least in gold its more competitive.

But the top silver vs the bottom silver, will be a complete slaughter.

I get that it may not be ready , but very disappointing as a frequent alt player.

Siege. good quick positioning, and time for reinforcements to arrive.

I hate having to log off an alt I am playing and having fun with because I need acess to ram mastery or something. I hate feeling the frustration of saving up for things which are useful, but require hundreds of ranks, when I have already earned those ranks on another toon, but will have to wait months before being there on my alt.

elementalist meteor swarm is the best anti zerg/zerging ability in game.

necromancers can also pump out HUGE damage in zerg fights.

Rangers can be built to be excellent roamers, but overall , anything they do, some other class just does better.