Corpse dancing, jumping and other humilation tactics -- When are they acceptable?
in WvW
Posted by: fellyn.5083
I’ll start off with saying that this topic might sound a bit(or a lot) like a rant.I want it to be a plea though, a plea for the improvement of most(all) warriors in dungeons.
The reason I made this topic is because of a recent event, a run in CoE with a 5 signet warrior who not only had this quite useless dungeon spec, he also had full MF gear, even on his weapon…(seeing the weapon sigil made me ask him, and he did say he had it).
Do understand my frustration, coupled with an elementalist who was allergic to water stance aoe healing,it grew into anger.I used quite the harsh language when trying to convince them to somehow improve.They stuck me with an argument that was intriguing : we will play however we like , you can’t tell us what to do.Now, if you go PvE solo and kill mobs by yourself, okay, you depend only on you.
But the moment you step into a dungeon,(and in this case- one of the hardest) your success or failure affects the entire group.How you perform will result in your party members paying more/less gold on repairs.I will lie if I say I don’t detest 5 signet builds.Just my FGJ and precision banner give more party damage boost than the whole person altogether.So, the whole point of this thread(as mentioned above) is to plea to fellow warriors to act accordingly when being in explorable mode.You having fun is good and all, but for a second, think that maybe another person might not find it fun to die 20 times before even getting to the boss.
I don’t think I have more to say really.Best of luck in the item hunting I guess.
Well he’s right. He’s entitled to play how he wants. If a PUGs performance bugs you so much start your own pre made dungeon running group. All your problems solved.
P.S. I did over 100 runs of CoF as a 5 signet warrior and never got a single complaint. I’ve since moved on from the build because I got bored with it, however.
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If you’re expecting sympathy from anyone while being on blackgate you’re in for a surprise.
Shoutout to Inecht and Xishnu (sp?) for a great job of defensive siege placement last night in Maguuma borderland. I kinda feel bad at how badly DH did but I got over it.
Little digs like that are why the second thread got locked. Keep it up and we can go for a record third.
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I’m bringing it up because I’m trying to say that Darkhaven is mostly Bad Players that Complain A Lot because they don’t have any tactics. If you go read the JQ / SB / IoJ thread you are not going to see a single person complain about LoSing, stacking, or portalbombing. All of them already understand that it’s a legitimate strategy.
Also, you’re right that they don’t need to outnumber us 2:1, it’s closer to 2.5 or 3:1.
First off, I’ve seen Darkhaven beat Maguuma when Maguuma had more players, although on average you’re better.
Secondly, Darkhaven has not been a high tier server. I know this is hard to understand, you’re from a server that was blessed with organization in WvW from day 1, we never were. We always have been a primarily PvE server, and we’ve sucked in WvW up until the past 3 weeks.
Can you really blame Darkhaven players for seeing something that really appears to be cheating (that they’ve never seen before) and calling people out on it? I love that you bring up IoJ/JQ/SBI, because they’re the highest ranked servers in the entire game. Did you know up until this week Darkhaven hadn’t ever been higher than the third to lowest tier?
So yeah, you’re better than us—good for you. We outnumber you, good for us. Can we all stop boasting and patting ourselves on the back now?
Well said. You said what I wanted to but I couldn’t find the right words, I think I’ll delete my last post now.
Imo this thread has already gone past the point of competitive banter again and is crossing the line into direct insults. I’m surprised it hasn’t been locked for a second time. Sad that people from Darkhaven are guilty of it, too, all the while trying to appear to take the moral high road. Which actually makes it worse for several reasons that shouldn’t need to be pointed out.
I’m bringing it up because I’m trying to say that Darkhaven is mostly Bad Players that Complain A Lot because they don’t have any tactics. If you go read the JQ / SB / IoJ thread you are not going to see a single person complain about LoSing, stacking, or portalbombing. All of them already understand that it’s a legitimate strategy.
Also, you’re right that they don’t need to outnumber us 2:1, it’s closer to 2.5 or 3:1.
Who was complaing about LoSing? And just to be clear you mean line of sight, right? That’s like the most basic pvp tactic in any game..ever. And I haven’t seen a single person talk about that so I’m not sure why it’s on that list.
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“Exploiting Culling” ahahahahahaha wow. Come up with a better excuse for having to outnumber us 2:1 to take anything.
I’m honestly curious. Why do you feel the need to keep pointing out that you’re outnumbered? in Wv3 battles are not supposed to be even. And why on earth would you hold that against anyone? We can’t exactly tell people “it’s okay fellas, we got this one, half of you are warming the bench”.
So..like…does it make you feel superior or what? There is nothing we can do about having a bigger showing. Besides that, isn’t the entire point of Wv3 to hold more territory the longest? And having more peoples helps with that? So I really am genuinely curious why you feel the need to keep pointing it out?
And they probably didn’t need to outnumber you 2:1 to take anything, but that’s just what showed up. If it really bugs you to be outnumbered so much you should look into changing servers instead of waiting for Anet to fix things which may or may not ever happen.
FWIW I also get that you’re tired of being accused of culling “exploiting” and I’m equally tired of having to read it. So yeah…there is that..too.
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If their goal was to make money they would be better off making players want to play more instead of introducing them to the brick wall known as the mystic forge RNG super fun time game.
The longer they play the more likely they are to spend money. And I’m of the opinion that people going after legendaries legitimately are not going to be spending a dime in the process.
Most people who spend real money in the game spend it on gems for extra bank and backpack slots. And then next in line is probably dyes and minis.
Our discussion was not at any point about the ups and downs of the play by play. Our discussion was about me congratulating your server, and you bragging about how you beat us outnumbered. How is that healthy, and how is that a discussion?
I’m not truly offended by your comment, it’s the internet. I’m simply tired of the endless arguments and such. I want a friendly atmosphere, but threads keep getting closed because of silly arguments. I did react too harshly and for that I apologize, I simply don’t see the point of your response to me unless it was to try to show that Maguuma can win outnumbered.
And this sub-section is created for talking about them in a friendly way. Our discussion was like:
Arius: You guys have really good numbers today (you take this to mean I was saying Maguuma is only winning because of numbers).
Rhyis: We rolled you guys while we were outnumbered in your BL, so we don’t need to outnumber you.You see what the issue is here? If you had been like “Oh it was a good battle, I was proud that we were able to beat Dh in your garrison today” something like that I’d be patting you on the back and saying you should have pride in the fact that you beat us while outnumbered. But, your point (no offense intended) was not made in the spirit of healthy competition.
I’m just trying to say we need to get away from that, it’s pointless and it will eventually get this thread locked.
Yes, entirely way to much chest-puffing going on. From all sides. Except for NSP, they’ve mostly stayed out of it.
This particular thread has already been heavily modded once last night. If we keep going at the pace we have been we’ll get a second thread locked by friday.
I think the root of the problem is a lot of people are thinking in terms of a certainity of aquiring the skin they want. Thing is there is no such thing here! I can never hope of making a 100 million dollars by just working a regular job. So I might gamble away a little money for a miniscule chance of winning that kind of money. But if I dont manage to win I will not simply get it just because I want it will I? I am also not entitled to it just cause I tried to get it by spending some of my money!
Same sort of thing here. These arent skins everyone is meant to get, you can buy costumes or craft the halloween weapons for that. I also expect that events will eventually reward some nice things too, especially the final event. In any case these are just a chance for a few lucky ones to stand out nothing more! In my opinion everyone should get into this with a mentality of I am not going to get one but I will none the less give it a try and not I will do all it takes to get this!. If you dont approach these kind of things with the right mindset it will cause grief.
All I am saying is dont try too hard. if you dont manage its unfortunite but its not the end of the world! There is a lot of other stuff you can get this halloween that involves no gambling at all!
You maybe have a point except for the fact that it was never advertised as being a huge gamble.
People paid money with the idea in mind that they would be getting something for their investment, not gambling.
Interesting to note:
It’s taken the thread about precursors RNG about 3 weeks to reach 12 pages.
This thread reached 8 pages in less than 10 hours.
Blows my mind that they thought this would be a good idea.
There is a short bow, it was shown in a video by some gaming magazine/website.
Anyways in the video posted up there you can see the shield near the end and it actually looks much nicer in that video than the screen shot provided.
Ah, just let the people in this thread wallow in their misery.
“Woe is me, woe is me, I can’t get that one cosmetic item!”GW1 had FoW armor, Vabbi armor, and the like which were much, much harder to get. To say nothing of Crystalline Swords. So yeah, GW1 had ‘absurd’ cosmetic items as well.
How many hundreds of ectos did a gold Crystalline Sword cost in GW1? Yeah exactly.
Reactions to this event on other media (e.g. reddit) and in game are overwhelmingly positive, so with that I’m done with this thread.
Difference being that people didn’t spend real money back then. Hard to believe that has to be pointed out.
I love how people equate the acquisition of one cosmetic item to the quality of the entire event series, though it’s only just begun. Nice.
As to the greatsword prices, one word for you: speculation.
No, but when we already have the great RNG game in the form of precursor weapons people are tired of absurdly low rng chances in the game.
RNG is only fun for the people who are cashing in on it as we speak.
In the patch notes they specifically mentioned they are tradeable.
Anyone else getting a connection error when they try to launch the launcher?
I did when I initially opened it. But I just let it wait for a few seconds and reconnect itself and off it went.
I think the problem with the Mystic Forge is that no one actually knows what we can potentially get out of it at this point. Even after 2 months. Anet really has not gone out of their way at all to talk about or even advertise the presence of the mystic forge.
When I first learned about the mystic salvage kits and told my friends about them, several of them asked me what the mystic forge was. So not even all players are aware that it exists to begin with.
If they addressed that small issue they might not need to rely on it for the RNG super fun time game to get precursors.
I’m not saying they need to give all it’s secrets away. But a trailer talking about it like they did with the legendary weapons might help a bit.
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Probably because people are sitting around in LA waiting for the halloween event patch to be released.
I’ve noticed a trend as Darkhaven goes higher in the ranks and I hope it doesn’t continue. The higher we get in ranks the more hostile people get and the more forum pvp we see. Sadly I gave in and guilty of this too. The worst part of this is that people from darkhaven are just as – if not – more guilty of this than people from other servers.
So I’m asking everyone, specifically my fellows on DH, can we just all cut the mud slinging and keep it friendly and competitive? We don’t need a second thread locked.
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And what was Anet’s stated goal for GW2 from inception? That it break the mold of generic mmo’s.
I notice in one of your posts you mentioned “an easier way” to get a precursor but I honestly do not think you are really reading all the posts. Not a single person has asked for an easier way to get them. Just a way that doesn’t rely on RNG or a fickle market.
Keep advocating a system that only rewards the lucky though. We all saw how well that worked in Aion and how full their servers stayed.
And then there is fact that ping/latency has absolutely nothing to do with your fps. If a player has a high ping then they might appear to teleport around but that still doesn’t have any bearing on your fps.
It’s very likely what the OP was experiencing was the culling affect and somehow thinking that had anything to do with a players ping.
Second favorite Darkhaven tactic!
Probably it’s the first one.
Ah, Darkhaven, you gave me so many laughs…
I hate that I have to point this out but there are people who have no clue what they are doing on every server.
Just because you got a screen shot of some one doing that it doesn’t mean those kinds of players can only be found on darkhaven.
That’s obviously not what I was implying as you should be able to infer from my post history. I’m just trash talking in a hopefully non-insulting way. Heck, in the last thread I posted a screenshot of us building a flame ram against a wall, and it wasn’t even done as a joke! You have to admit that some people on your server doing silly things with golems at least three times in the past day is pretty funny. And by that I mean send me the gold instead because I’m poor.
I suppose I could have lightened up a bit after the uh..serious…tone this thread and the previous one had.
Didn’t it used to? Pretty sure Anet changed it to make it so it specifically wouldn’t.
I think a good solution would be to finally put paid transfers in the game. But give free transfers off the high pop high tier servers to lower tier lower pop servers.
It would cut down on entire guilds band wagoning to already high pop servers and encourage people to go the low pop ones.
I will pay anyone $100 worth of gems if they can go to lol reddit, sc2 reddit, arenajunkies or any major pro gaming site and convince the posters of that site that
1. Having un equal numbers of players on teams is a good idea for the game
2. And a fair idea for the game.
I’m not sure what you are after…do you want “equal” teams, or not?
Also as someone said if you want equal teams go do spvp.
Giving increased karma and gold rewards might be a nice incentive, too.
Maybe Anet should just remove all region designations like they did with gw1. The only problem is that there are servers dedicated to certain languages like French and German. I’m not sure how that would be handled.
Second favorite Darkhaven tactic!
Probably it’s the first one.
Ah, Darkhaven, you gave me so many laughs…
I hate that I have to point this out but there are people who have no clue what they are doing on every server.
Just because you got a screen shot of some one doing that it doesn’t mean those kinds of players can only be found on darkhaven.
Don’t be ridiculous. Clearly all of server X is stupid because a single person did a single stupid thing.
Also keep in mind that if one person does a glitch or hack on server X, then CLEARLY all of server X is full of hackers and glitchers. Hackers are mutually exclusive to X and don’t exist on my server, server Y, which is also clearly superior.
While we’re on the subject, if server X is winning, then they’re nothing but skilless, glitching nightcampers. If my server, Y, is winning, it’s because the other servers are bad and we have superior tactics.
My logic is infallible, don’t dare try and refute me.
Consider me properly reprimanded.
Second favorite Darkhaven tactic!
Probably it’s the first one.
Ah, Darkhaven, you gave me so many laughs…
I hate that I have to point this out but there are people who have no clue what they are doing on every server.
Just because you got a screen shot of some one doing that it doesn’t mean those kinds of players can only be found on darkhaven.
@Cerkling:
Frankly, isn’t that good for your server? You now have someone to cover your non-EU timeslots.
Also, exactly how are they ruining the game for you? (admittedly, if you’re using RUIN as a model, you’re far off, as most people don’t like them on NA servers either, dunno why).
IMO, try to recruit an NA timeslot guild to your server as well, to level the playing field.
People don’t like RUIN because in previous mmo’s, specifically Aion and Warhammer online they had a really bad reputation for zerging and generally low skill for their individual players. They were also a massive guild with 500+ players.
This is what I remember reading about them on the Aion and Warhammer forums, although I never encountered them personally in either of those games.
fellyn.5083How is it off base? Most people get off work in the hour from 4pm to 5pm. That gives your EST prime time about 3 hours over us, while our people are still at work or otherwise occupied with school or whatever else.
Which is the entire point. You’re saying you dominate us during the day, but during the day is when we’ve always admitted we’re at our lowest wv3 showing. But come prime time PST that all changes. You see what I’m getting at here?
When you guys say we are “night capping” it’s barely 9-10pm for most of us on darkhaven
For 2 days now during the day, and when I say the day I mean 2pm-9pm EST, Mag has been ahead in points being gained on the scoreboard. At least 6 of those hours are also PST prime time hours. This isn’t an opinion, it’s simply a fact. This happens every single match up, so DH shouldn’t bad about it. Mag prime time is simply very strong. We have fought much higher tiered servers then DH has even fought, let alone are. Mag is battle-hardened, but we lose every time. It’s kind of a funny situation we’re in, but we enjoy ourselves regardless of end score because when we’re online we murder most servers quite easily. In our mind, PvP takes precedent over PvD.
I can dispute it because I know what the scoreboard said and when I saw it. We had roughly 350~ points per tick to your 150~ at 6pm pst. I don’t remember the exact score but we held a pretty big point lead.
I would also question why a group of Maguuma would be attacking NSP in EB during prime time en mass when NSP was going after us pretty hard. But that’s an entirely different conversation.
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I agree people shouldn’t be saying we dominated NSP, because towards the end of the week you guys had made a huge come back in terms of points. At one point during the week we had a 70k point lead at least, but just hours before the reset we barely had a 20k point lead. If we were doing 2 week matches as Anet originally intended we likely would have lost, or it would have been a hell of a lot closer.
But I’m not certain that is the point they were trying to make. People were saying we got dominated during the day but that simply wasn’t always the case. Just like we didn’t have an easy time dominating the maps at night, which people seem to think happens as well.
Yeah, and? You said Mag prime time revovles around EST. Darkhaven prime time revolves around PST.
My point is this statement, made by you, is completely off base if PST is your servers prime time. EST and PST prime time are basically the same thing.
So what you’re saying is that you can beat us while most of our wv3 people are at work or otherwise occupied. That’s essentially what you’re post comes down to.
How is it off base? Most people get off work in the hour from 4pm to 5pm. That gives your EST prime time about 3 hours over us, while our people are still at work or otherwise occupied with school or whatever else.
Which is the entire point. You’re saying you dominate us during the day, but during the day is when we’ve always admitted we’re at our lowest wv3 showing. But come prime time PST that all changes. You see what I’m getting at here?
When you guys say we are “night capping” it’s barely 9-10pm for most of us on darkhaven.
No, you wouldn’t start capturing things until 12 AM eastern. On the weekends, yes, you held for most of the day. However, once weekdays started, and especially in the last 3 days, NSP held everything in the day and lost it all at night.
Screen shots of a single moment mean absolutely nothing. It could be taken right as our server started to wake up or get home and capture your bases.
If you aren’t willing to see the truth, then there’s no sense arguing. What I said is true, whether you like it or not.
Now our server has no chance because we simply don’t have the WvW presence we had two weeks ago. Two losses in a row means all the server jumpers have already left to the ones that won (Sanctum of Rall and Darkhaven in this case).
The score reflected this. NSP and DH were relatively close, and this couldn’t have happened with DH holding everything the entire night and day.
So what do you want us to do then? For starters we can’t control the band-wagoners so you can’t blame us for that.
And second, are we to just not play? What do you expect us to do? Let you have your way with the map and then give up when you guys call it a night?
Anet has said WvWvW is a 24 hour a day fight. Not an 8 hour a day fight. So I ask again, what do you expect us to do?
I also understand the time zone disparities, but it seems others do not. They are a two way street.
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I still don’t get where all this criticism comes from. Yes we have a decent night time. We also have a superb daytime.
No you don’t. With the exception of Friday, Mag always has had control of the day time score pretty handily. The issue is, even your most hardcore of players are never on more then 8 hours a day. When you’re asleep or working, that’s 16 hours you’re not online defending anything. And Mag really doesn’t have any night time crew at all to speak of.
This isn’t a complaint, as we have lost every single match up to date due to Mag not being online. We’re quite used to it. But when Mag is online in force, we are almost always gaining points at a furious pace. Our day time crew is beyond reproach… So much so that you DH players are calling them cheaters for using standard tactics.
Is that why we’ve been getting 350~ points a tick for the last 3 hours during prime time to your 150~? (confused)
The last 3 hours is 11pm-2 am Sunday night. Mag prime time revolves around EST.
So what you’re saying is that you can beat us while most of our wv3 people are at work. That’s essentially what you’re post comes down to.
This sounds awfully familiar.
You’re aware Darkhaven is a North American server, correct? PST/CST/EST are the 3 time zones your general player should be playing during. All of which are 1 to 3 hours between each other.
Yeah, and? You said Mag prime time revovles around EST. Darkhaven prime time revolves around PST.
I still don’t get where all this criticism comes from. Yes we have a decent night time. We also have a superb daytime.
No you don’t. With the exception of Friday, Mag always has had control of the day time score pretty handily. The issue is, even your most hardcore of players are never on more then 8 hours a day. When you’re asleep or working, that’s 16 hours you’re not online defending anything. And Mag really doesn’t have any night time crew at all to speak of.
This isn’t a complaint, as we have lost every single match up to date due to Mag not being online. We’re quite used to it. But when Mag is online in force, we are almost always gaining points at a furious pace. Our day time crew is beyond reproach… So much so that you DH players are calling them cheaters for using standard tactics.
Is that why we’ve been getting 350~ points a tick for the last 3 hours during prime time to your 150~? (confused)
The last 3 hours is 11pm-2 am Sunday night. Mag prime time revolves around EST.
So what you’re saying is that you can beat us while most of our wv3 people are at work or otherwise occupied. That’s essentially what you’re post comes down to.
This sounds awfully familiar.
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Collects.4261:Please Anet if someone else links a precursor standing next to me and they have only tried 30 times i am going to rage.
People don’t need to try even once, all you have to do is buy enough gems to get one off the TP and your set. Remember, it’s not pay to win because you don’t get any more powerful with legendaries sigh
You do realize it would cost an absurd amount of money to convert gems to gold right? I don’t know the current conversion ratio but I believe the price is in the neighborhood of thousands of real life dollars.
If someone is actually willing to pay that much to get a precursor weapon, more power to them, I say. Thanks for supporting Anet.
It’s also worth noting that is the kind of player who will stop playing in 2 weeks because they are bored, too.
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I still don’t get where all this criticism comes from. Yes we have a decent night time. We also have a superb daytime.
No you don’t. With the exception of Friday, Mag always has had control of the day time score pretty handily. The issue is, even your most hardcore of players are never on more then 8 hours a day. When you’re asleep or working, that’s 16 hours you’re not online defending anything. And Mag really doesn’t have any night time crew at all to speak of.
This isn’t a complaint, as we have lost every single match up to date due to Mag not being online. We’re quite used to it. But when Mag is online in force, we are almost always gaining points at a furious pace. Our day time crew is beyond reproach… So much so that you DH players are calling them cheaters for using standard tactics.
Is that why we’ve been getting 350~ points a tick for the last 3 hours during prime time to your 150~? (confused)
Wads its that it chooses 5 random players, think of it as your aoe hits players 1-5 the first hit and players 6-10 on the second hit and players 11-15 on hit 3 before returning to players 1-5 for hit four.
Fellyn you still didn’t answer what is the more fair way to win WvW.
I didn’t because there is no fair way to win WvW. No matter how you win someone is always going to complain. Fact.
I’m looking forward to it, the halloween events in GW1 were always great fun. I don’t think it will affect wvw though.
You’re never going to be able to equalize the numbers though. In a system that has free transfers or even paid transfers the population of a server is fluid at best, it’s never going to be constant. You then also have to account for people that just outright stop playing, too. Which as more time passes will become a problem all in it’s own.
And then you have people who only go into the battlegrounds to do jumping puzzles, taking spots from people who do actually want participate.
Or what if you get put up against a server that just decides it doesn’t want to compete after the slightest score deficit? You’re going to punish the other two sides that do want to compete.
Lots of little reasons why limiting population based on wv3 presence of the other servers is a bad idea.
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Fellyn you don’t tell us why its a bad idea other than
a). bots
b). queue timesHow is limiting the amount of people in WvW (which is already done at map caps) and bots related?
For queue times, is it more fair for servers to win because they have the larger population or more fair if skill and coordination determines winners. Answer this question pretending you are neutral and your server would not being negatively affected by your answer.
You would only face additional queue times if your server out numbers the server you play. Any consistent additional queue time would be temporary because
1. Top tier servers are already max population and so have somewhat even numbers between them (out numbering opponents=highest score, not skill and coordination= highest score) so they would hardlly ever face extra time
2. People will be more likely to x-fer if they face longer queue times
3. Free x-fers would be fixed so high pop -> low pop
Here’s the thing of it. Actual population vs. WvWvW population. Just because a server is high population does not mean they have a large wv3 population. And if I’m reading it correctly you want it to be capped based on total server population, not just presence in wv3.
Case in point would be NSP. They claim they lost a large portion of their player base just this last week, and I’m sure they did. But when they say that they actually mean their wv3 population. Not the overall server population, which probably didn’t even notice that a few guilds left. When only 100 (not sure if that’s the exact cap for wv3 maps) people per server are allowed in a map at once you’re gonna feel the absence of 20 active players daily. But as far as the population for a server goes 20 people is nothing.
Now, I’m all for closing down transfers to high pop high tier servers. It would make sense that they only allow people to transfer to lower pop/tier servers.
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This would be a different match if nightcapping hadn’t happened Friday night.
So what you’re saying is that we should just leave everything untouched once the Maguuma “prime time” crowd logs off for the night? We’re only supposed to accommodate your play time, or what?
What are we supposed to do? I’m not trying to flame or anything I’m just really confused at these type of comments.
The complaints of night capping and using that term as an insult is really getting tiresome.
Its more of anet needing to implement population caps on servers based on the population of the other servers, it has nothing to do with time of day. You’ll notice skill doesn’t not determine a winner in WvW unless populations are balanced. You can look at the ranks and who is winning vs losing to see that.
No offense but that’s a terrible idea. Especially considering how rampant the bot populations are in certain maps.
And then there is the fact that if you’re on a server that already has queues (like Darkhaven) then that would only make them worse. If I’m understanding you’re suggestion correctly.
It’s more that it’s a frustrating experience to fight against. If a server is able to 100% everything for a few hours at night, the game is basically over unless their daytime presence is terrible. I don’t think anyone is blaming anyone for playing at night.
I’m honestly not trying to flame when I say this, but Maguuma has been playing the night capping card pretty much since the reset on Friday, in the originally thread. Even before it actually happened.
And even then, we didn’t just waltz over the map. Every fort/keep/tower we took had a lot of defenders in it.
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This would be a different match if nightcapping hadn’t happened Friday night.
So what you’re saying is that we should just leave everything untouched once the Maguuma “prime time” crowd logs off for the night? We’re only supposed to accommodate your play time, or what?
What are we supposed to do? I’m not trying to flame or anything I’m just really confused at these type of comments. And the complaints of night capping and using that term as an insult is really getting tiresome.
Fellyn, last week we had twice the WvW base. This week you have them. We hardly even match up in primetime now. This one is over. Have fun with your new fairweather players.
I wasn’t specifically talking to NSP as Maguuma is in second place as far as I know. They’ve been playing the night capping card since the reset pretty much.
Not really. At one point last week we had an easy 70k point lead on NSP. But by the end of the week our lead was barely 20k points.
If you’re gonna give up so easily don’t come on here and complain about “night capping”. Thanks.
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Honestly what devs need to do right now is provide us with atleast something to settle most players- while yes, I am extremely against the current design I’m very patient and a game developer myself. We should be able to at least get word from a developer on if they are working on a method to obtain it for certain or at least increase the rate/give us percentages. Keeping a huge mystery on this type of thing is only making more players frustrated and angry. I’m not saying we deserve the golden book of knowledge but, throw us a bone. Also- has anyone gotten the guide to the game (the book) and looked to see if theres something on legendaries in it?
As far as that goes I have heard the actual guide (book) only covers up to level 25 so who knows how in depth it actually gets.
Darkhaven. PvEing there way to victory one keeplord at a time. Naw guys its skill, really. Cant wait to wake up and fight Mag every morning/early evening.
Take out 4-6 hours where DH has no contesting and see how well they do.
Every single keep/fort/whatever we took tonight had defenders in it. Keep on making excuses though.
Some of the sieges went on for a good 20 minutes.
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I honestly don’t get why people are so against the system changing. The only reason I can think of is because they are somehow using it to make money and don’t want that to change.
For me. I didn’t sign up for Guild Wars: The Trading Post Game.