Guild Wars 2

after recently shelving my thief for probably 2-3 weeks(i get bored of other classes quick) i semi agree with this post. i do find the crit change a little to extreme and think that some other stats need to be readjusted to work with this. but alas its really just drawn fights out to be long IMHO. WvW SE can keep condis at bay for D/P thief’s and lyssa runes still work in PvP. even with taking them out for a more damage base rune set HiS can remove the major ones that hurt the most….It’ll be interesting to see what the next major “Way of living” or w/e they called patch comes out

Thanks for the advice!

i don’t want really want Op per say. i just want a general power build and Pu is the only one i could think of

i just recently shelved my thief after countless frustration from the crit change and thought i’d play around with a magic rouge. Basically, Im looking for builds to try out and thought i’d try out this “op, hard to kill, pls nerf” pu build. thanks in advance

stinkypants.8419:

fumcheg.1936:

who cares? the only water map is removed.

There’s more to the game than PvP.

Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Shaogin.2679:

Look, a completely new and orginal thread. How about next time you take two seconds to search the forums and maybe see if a similar thread already exists eh? Then post in that thread instead of spawning multiple threads on the same topic that has already been argued to death.

i like to think multiple posts of the same thing will get the devs the hint that we want a change

whats with all the kitten talking-.- its almost double since before the patch…anet will eventually make it team talk only if this keeps up

I’m honestly kind of sick of seeing posts like this…can this pls get locked-,-

IMHO, with it being my main class from wvw roaming for a good 7 months, then switching to pvp, thief is a rough class to play. I’ve ran D/p since i started thief since i came from an assassin blind build from gw1, and its not so much as “hard” per say but more interesting. The reason i say that is because as simply stated from people above “if you mess up, you’re dead” period. i find myself using stealth less in pvp since when i switch to my dagger that means I’m going to kill you. with every class i kite and poison with my sb until i see them waste most of their utilities. It makes me think on my toes instead of when I play on my engi(not baggin) but go on point run in circles and aoe condi people to death. Would i say its a hard class to play, No, would i say its a more risky class to play, yes. But overall its just like every other class. just outsmart them. don’t listen to all the “AA to win” hype. I’ve used all weapon sets besides p/d since i personal find condi builds a little boring. and s/d is a little harder then spam 3. give it a try! start in pve then go into obi sanctum maybe solo roam(depending on your server). or just jump straight into pvp. thief’s a fun class (even tho we have the most haters)

I’ve seen nothing but thieves lately. and yes zerk mesmers wreck now. what gives

i don’t believe he/she makes videos and idk if they are famous. but i’ve fought a thief named plop plop plop plop plop? sorry if i missed a plop. in yoloq and solo and good grief..i’ve never got wrecked so hard so many times. i got the chance to get advice/tips on how a thief should act with pvp and scenario’s on how to play smarter with a thief. great thief and probably one of the best in my book

I’d actually really like this. As someone who got up to fractal 62 to never get a fractal dagger to drop for me and then be reset down to level 30, ii don’t find the need fractal anymore. so yes i’d like to see a fractal reward track

i did lose about 14k hp in, and i kitten you not, a split second. one minute I’m engaging with my sb the next I’m dead….wtf mate

sigh..i main a thief and do agree with you…thank god i had a full ascended condi engi on the side…guess its time to start maining him

But after a few matches in pvp,(hot joins and solo) do things few extremely unbalanced?

I would think a group of raw damage would do more work then a group of over-lapping condi’s….just sayin..

@Magetarr.6823
i thought about using that when i logged on today. after a few matches i realized that i don’t have my dagger out that much that i can make good use of it. i start with sb until i find a good time to pin in a BS down quick…sadly after a a dozen hot joins and a few solos matches..im kind of upset at the state pvp is in

with already low condi removal. i just can’t justify taking out lyssa runes. and i knew about the s/p nerf…i used it occasionally and honestly I’m not to upset by it.

whats the new pvp meta? did a few hot joins and lyssa d/p is still ok but id like something different

don’t worry they gave us 10% damage reduction and some poop gm traits..sorry we tweak our builds and try to adapt to new changes

i guess you can replace it in materialistic things…i mean, its not like you don’t have the money to pay for a few legendaries

warrior moves out of whirling axe and blind field. problem solved
healing seed its garbage imo. why would i waste initiative while still getting bursted down then be left with nothing when I’m done. the condi clear is the only good thing about it.
and mesmers are just another petting zoo like necros. i can usually kill one with my sb alone and thats after a pretty decent long fight.
the only statement i agree with you here is the better player should win. if all these “op stolen skills” get nerfed id like to see 5 skill for warrior axe necro fear rangers healing spring nerfed with it. makes sense right? its a stolen ability the stolen ability is op then the original is also?

impressive sir..

Me thinks the bigger question is would everyone be willing to waste a utility slot for a non stun break, possibly(and to keep it on the lower end) 20 second CD, and maybe a cast time, for a 5-8 second reveal. I think they tired that with ranger ( don’t know the exact skill but i know its not what i described above) but the only time i saw the skill being used was when it was implemented. i don’t think many people would waste a slot for that.. Thats just me thinking it would be they only way they could add a quick stealth break to the game.

5 on Sb adds blind to enemies when you do it close enough to them. that always gets me

i thought that was if you unequip the wep. making separate stacking weapons unusable…i could of read it wrong.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQNAoaVlsMp0pdOx7J8PNhs9oC7JeirgT59gsGLzC-zwCBYfRE/DggAiIAkKAI1EM3EKHdIrFOFRjVXDT5iIqOAACwOrzAwQH6Nv5NvZpAiYZE-e

this is kind of what i came up with to keep my burst build about the same with the upcoming patch… thoughts?

yes I’ve always used bloodlust in my sb and since ill be able to have 2 now it’ll make me pull out my bow more

me its the opposite…pople try to party me after i kill them deny. pople wisp me that I’m a noob even tho they are on the ground? block. aint nobody got time to listen to every crybaby trying to feel better for losing. “teef” is so op and cheese so thats why i main it. to easy mode the 90% population of this game that is only good for zerging.

kite the kiters. I’ve seriously killed one with just my SB lol. but on a serious note i find that crippling them helps a lot. but usually i will start off with my sb until that crete comes down. once i see that i shadow step and burn the turrets just with auto attack. then the fun comes. i usually switch to d/d or s/d depending on what i feel like that day and just get heavy on them. their condis are pretty easy to get around. just keep your distance and shadow step backstab on them and pull off. I’ve found most engis won’t burn nothing but their 5 and auto attack for nades. and if they are running bomb kit they will just spam everything till its on cd. stay out of that you shouldn’t be following bombs period lol. most panic as well and throw up their shields once you stealth.. its basically a battle on who messes up first tbh. just keep your cool and attack when its safe

honestly i find the number 4 useless in pvp and more useful in wvw. i seldom use it and i only do on engi’s that are running around dropping aoe condis while I’m trying to back stab. i think 3 is just silly and pointless since if you’re going full zerk the bleeds really don’t do much beside cancel out a few regen slightly. 5 i think is fine tbh. if it crits it can be deadly. the only thing i would maybe add to it would be 5 stacks of vun instead of 3..just cuz most skills add 5 stacks of w/e….and you know….we teefs need moar deeps

so thief can’t have a what, maybe 4 second evade spam? leavening them useless after they’ve burnt their inti? a warrior( i know i know going for the easy target) can trait him or herselves to have, and correct me if I’m wrong, 6- 8 seconds of endure pain and then their shield block to run back into a tower and /laugh at me? i see your point lets nerf the thief more

warrior is meta cheese.

that believes there should be “priority conditions” that get removed with your skills. example: when i have immobile and blindness on me and i shadow return(thief skill) away and it removes the blind…or if i have a cozy 10 confusion on me with 1 or 2 stack of bleed and i get the bleeds removed..any way we can do this?

well i broke down and ended up using tool kit vs bomb kit…but i still miss my bombsT.T

it does, thank you! but if i can ask, why condi duration? the max i can get with stacks(no guard yet) is 1623 with food and i feel like thats a little lowish? and with how fast people can clear condis doesn’t that make the duration a little useless?

OK, so i main a their but for pvp thief isn’t really….what the team needs. So i went learned decap engi fell in love with it and then went to try out condis…kitten bricks…and wanted to take him into wvw so i made some celestial armor got some dire trinkets and off i went…only to find that(not only that i suck in wvw with engi since its a different ball game) nandes and bomb kit aren’t as well rounded in wvw as they are in pvp…my question is if someone can point me in the direction of a build or videos-already have checked wolfineer- that could shed some light on how i can play this class effectively in wvw. i enjoy those 2 kits the most but will be open to power builds(preferring condi tho) since I’ve been tinkering with that ft build and like it..THANKS

ok…i’ve main’d a thief for over 9 months now so heres my 2 copper to get people to stop kittening. about 3 months ago i started playing other classes-mainly pve- to learn their strong and weak points and how to exploit them on my thief(i know fk me right?) and i feel in love with the engi. now after doing all that it improved how i can “kittenolol” other players.-1copper learn the class that annoys you the most- now back to engi.- this class can easily roll just about any class in the game when played correctly(and not like me since I’m still learning the wvw roaming part of not to dodge thru your sup crate) but 7/10 people i encounter i usually kill. when it comes to thieves its childs play. AOE spam and stay put.. a thief won’t come close to condis or a barbaric warrior swinging his GS around like an idiot with 3/4 health..plain and simple we are forced to play extremely careful. and if we don’t do enough with the initial BV BS auto chain or 1 too 2 HS(or 5 depending on the kittenhead you got) that makes most (bad) thieves panic. why ill let you live through that heart racing poop your pants moment yourself. give it a shot and stop complain about thieves already…im still perplexed how kill shot still tracks me in stealth and insta downs me. does is kitten me off? yes. do i think its fair/ makes sense? no. do i go crying on the balance section of the forums to tell anet to apply more logic to a game?no(even though i should)….fk those guies

i kinda breezed through it since I’ve always found perplex builds to be 1 solid 2 kinda of boring…that aside it looks pretty good. the only thing i would switch out would be the apoth trinket and the food imo condi duration is a waste with how fast people can remove condis. i’d switch to something with condi preci stats instead

(edit) i misspelled food….just hoping you caught that lol

i thought there was going to be that whole crit chance thing this month…my wishful thinking is hoping they are kind of ’second guessing" their whole ferocity or w/e is was they wanted to implement. so thats why there was no balance patch…but man was i excited about healing sig

The main reason i ask this is mostly because, we are the class that gets trolled the most. Be it from other professions or fellow thieves complaining about the real issues we see. Some issues that i think need to be addressed would be things like: our defense, thieves have pretty much no other choice but to use stealth via S/d D/D or D/p..which comes the qqing… as I’ve said before, ido use d/p during the day cycle of wvw- D/d for sigil of night. its gets hated on imo for its stealth on demand..but when a d/d thief spams stealth its “op” which leads me to believe not many people understand that even for a semi experienced or very experienced its kind of tough to land CnD where a warrior, necro, or guardian can aoe cc while dealing mass condi’s/damage. our health pool is low enough where even if we go full soldiers armor…(times were tough on a just starting thief) we can still get hit pretty hard and can’t survive. so I’m sorry to all the other classes that feel is all pew pew bang bang stealthy stealthy run away and tell all are friends at thieves hq how we beat you up with no effort at all…i digress though because i could ramble for hours but any who back to the main topic…with the incoming crit damage(nerf or not nerf depending on some peoples views) i would like to see some of the devs active in this forum as they are in others. we have questions too.

I just feel like the (serious) posters when asking questions don’t ever get answers…but when someone complains about “hobo sacks” every dev and their dev mother replies.

Don’t i ever see any dev posts on these forums? Just because we’re thieves doesn’t mean we are scary people

you could go the route i am and just make frenzy lol. i hate quip i prefer the aether shield over flameseakers and the rifle is barley noticed since when i use rifle I’m mostly in a kit..

^sounds like someone has had a rrrrrufffff day

sigh..personally i use both D/D and D/P. I find nothing wrong with using black powder offensively as well as defensively(crazy idea kitten me right). Now i wanted to rage quit on the video at the engi fight because you should of pulled your bow out the second he did supply create. but you still got the win.. the only thing i will say negative is get rid of the deer finisher…pvp moar

Aw man.. My Hs is getting nerfed looks like i’ll have to find something to easy mode pve with.. I kid, but on a more serious note there really is no use complaining about it. I Main a thief and pvp with a engi. It’s and endless cycle of someone finding something to complain about being OP. I’ve been hit with the back ally nerf bat countless times just like most classes. If you really enjoy the class, take the hit and move on. Or just roll warrior since they so O….oh wait

just switched, and as the title says. looking for guild missions wvw and pvp if anybody wants to. Rank 28 9k a-net points rank 258 wvw. would like something not super strict

This post…put me to tears with how moving it is.

[foxy] is on sbi. we are pretty much a jack of all trades guild though most members wvw havoc while i spend most of my time in pvp now a days. But both the leader and I both main a thief so if you have any questions regarding the class. Send me a pm or mail and I’ll respond kitten as i can.

I’ve always enjoyed another thief. but lately since the person i usually roam with isn’t on I’ve been running with a condi engi, and its rather a lot of fun.