Guild Wars 2

Yeah this, along with a lot of other stuff needs to be fixed. I never played GW1, but if it is the same development team, did they also get it wrong in that game as well? I just can’t believe a game released in 2012, can have so many issues, and problems games released in the 90s, didn’t have.

Bhawb.7408:

Zenith.7301:

By saying minions do 1.6k DPS, you mean a full minion utility bar? Because most people don’t have the luxury of running one considering you want group condi removal or utility wells in addition to a stunbreaker.

That is the most common 4 minion skills (bone minion, bone fiend, flesh wurm, flesh golem) with the 30% damage trait. If you aren’t going heavy into minions, their DPS is irrelevant, you are taking them for their actives.

I agree they need to have some extra survivability though, in some form, and need out of combat regen (its just a QoL thing to me). The supposed AoE nerfs that are always promised would help in s/tPvP a lot, I think they could use some WvW specific AoE reduction and also something to keep them alive a bit better in PvE.

Running in WvW, I almost always need the 25% runspeed. So I’m running with one slot short on a minion because of this. I couldn’t keep up with anyone, and would always get caught by enemy zergs if I didn’t. <cry>

Bhawb.7408:

More HP will still good, we’ve been asking for more survivability and HP will do that. If you don’t like minions don’t use them.

As a newish Necromancer it isn’t the hit points that concern me as much as the minions not healing in between fights, or losing our elite minion once we go into the water because it doesn’t have a water skin.

I think I’d rather see an out of combat regen on minions before more hit points right now because in WvW, it is hard to use them effectively. Get in one fight, and you have to put them on cooldown to resummon them for the next fight.

This is roaming solo of course.

It’s not going to effect me much on my Mesmer. I had ticks as high as 9k damage with it, so 4k-5k damage will still be doable, and acceptable.

They should put a 10 stack cap on it, instead of reducing the damage by 50% though.

I love Ebay, they always bring the fight to us defenders, who usually get bored.

Dovgan.8605:

jkctmc.8754:

KStudios.2850:

Exarthious.5792:

Dovgan.8605:

Here would be if the guy ran a dual monitor set up. Actually I could go even further down. Not sure why you are embracing hacks so much. Oh wait a sec. Did you ask the guy on the cart if he has dual monitors. This really requires no hacks at all.

How dare you have better hardware than me!! Nerf dual monitors!!!!!!!

Why so many monitors? Why not just one BIG one? We despise television here, so I just use our 40" LCD TV as my monitor.

I do note that in one aspect this can be problematic, because while the chat box size is adjustable, the text size in GW2 only is to a certain point. Which in the case of my ginormous set-up, is a bit too small. Lot’sa squinting.

We don’t have cable anymore because we watch videos we rent, or freeTV online. My wife is trying to talk me into a very large monitor for this. That big of a screen doesn’t give you headaches while playing?

Depends on how close you are. Played on a 60" and it’s pretty epic. I prefer 23’s though, tends to be a crisper image. Wanted to try it on the 3D set, too lazy to move everything over though.

Holy hell, I definately won’t be using that big of a screen.

Curious about the 3D if you ever get it up, and running. Hmm…..

Bas you’re awesome. I hope my busy schedule lets up sometime in the near future to participate in your events/podcasts.

KStudios.2850:

Exarthious.5792:

Dovgan.8605:

Here would be if the guy ran a dual monitor set up. Actually I could go even further down. Not sure why you are embracing hacks so much. Oh wait a sec. Did you ask the guy on the cart if he has dual monitors. This really requires no hacks at all.

How dare you have better hardware than me!! Nerf dual monitors!!!!!!!

Why so many monitors? Why not just one BIG one? We despise television here, so I just use our 40" LCD TV as my monitor.

I do note that in one aspect this can be problematic, because while the chat box size is adjustable, the text size in GW2 only is to a certain point. Which in the case of my ginormous set-up, is a bit too small. Lot’sa squinting.

We don’t have cable anymore because we watch videos we rent, or freeTV online. My wife is trying to talk me into a very large monitor for this. That big of a screen doesn’t give you headaches while playing?

I ask this because I have a set of Runes I would love to recover, that I used on some gold gear, long before I knew you couldn’t. The gear has been sitting in my bank for months.

You can recover runes from other gear, let us also recover them from Karma/WvW gear.

@Robert Hrouda

You and I should duel 100 times in a WvW setting, with me switching toons after every fifth duel, and post the results here.

I absolutely destroy Elementalists on my Ranger with the Shortbow. That is one thing the Ranger has going for it. We’re one of the few classes that can dominate the Elementalist.

The key is to move in a semi-circle, constantly, never stopping while keeping Chill up as long as you can.

Noss.4105:

Dojo.1867:

Noss.4105:

Dojo.1867:

Why not. It is very easy to counter for human players and it might make rangers more viable in dungeons.

Because pets critting close to 10k while ranger having around 40k ehp feels OP.

10k crits wont occur on any defensively specced class. If you are playing glasscannon and get hit by the pet then it is pretty much your own fault. What I give you is that the Jaguar is really somewaht the only pet that makes some hard to counter attacks connect due to the stealth that doesn’t break when attacking. I have a feeling that wont stay forever though, I am nearly 100% sure they will change that very soon and it wasn’t intended like that. However for all the other pets it is really your own fault if you get hit while running a glasscannon spec.

At the moment pets are very easily avoided, yes. But like I said before, if pets will be more reliable in PvP and you cant outrun em so easily, I think the damage would be too high with Sic ’em and Signet of the Wild etc.

One immobilize, one cripple, one chill on a pet would negate all of that, and they would be sitting without any damage for a long time. Play smarter, and even f the pets had a better chance of hitting, you would not get hit like this, period.

They shouldn’t keep the Ranger as an underpowered class because people can’t learn in this game.

Watch some of Xsorus videos on either his Ranger, or his Thief, he rarely gets hit by a pet. I can’t remember the last time a pet has hit me more than a couple times, before I’ve downed the Ranger.

The Ranger can not cure his pet, therefore they suffer the full duration of CC.

Snowreap.5174:

they don’t actually believe themselves to be righteous. they just say that to rustle your jimmies.

-ken

That’s another regression of the internet, and many who participate. Any exchange in communication, that depicts an opposition is met with the childish nonsense that you have to be mad because you do not agree. I’ve heard better on grade school yards. What has happened to people?

Zetus.1476:

I can’t get over the amount of people who claim they’ve shelved the game and are doubtful of ever playing it again. If that’s the case, why do they still bother checking these forums for upcoming patches and information? Clearly they’re checking because they will still come back and play in the future. These kinds of posts are meaningless, destructive and give a bad atmosphere to the forums in general.

While I do think split Pve/PVP skills are a step in the right direction and some patches have been detrimental to specific builds in the ranger class, it is no reason to whine around the forums.

This game isn’t just PvE/sPvP, but also WvW.

It’s one thing to be unhappy with the development of something, and another thing to hate something. I’d be far more forgiving if they hadn’t already had another MMO title under their name. At this point in time I will not forgive companies for turning out a buggy game, when they should have already learned from their prior experiences. You can be apologetic all you want for Anet, but fact of the matter is they did not turn out the game they promised. It’s about time development teams deliver what they promise.

I hang around after leveling 6 toons to 80, and fully gearing them out in Exotics hoping things change, and they speed up the process to fix things. But my hope is diminishing. It’s really hard to give up on a lot of time invested in a game.

Thorson.9218:

Do our pets stay on the “real” player or do they get confused by the clones? In WvW there’s so many bodies (groups, zergs, etc.) I can’t tell what I’M hitting let alone what my insane pet is doing…..

-Thor

If they do not stealth, the pet sticks to them like glue.

When you are in a group, mark them for assist. Then you’ll see them permanently, and be able to go straight for them.

Even when I roam solo, I group someone just so I can do this.

- Traps
- Axe/Torch
- Axe/Axe
- Greatsword
- Shortbow + Piercing Arrows + proper positioning.
- Pets to choice, but in PvE the Drake is awesome.

Aridia.3042:

Robyn Yew.6072:

btw if they actually fix our pet and it does what we want, rangers will be op just saying.

This…

Semil.8279:

Now you’ve made me worried.

If pets are made able to hit more reliably, our dps will increase on mobile targets.

Will ANet see this as a reason to decrease the damage the ranger does to compensate?

and this.

LOL, be careful what you wish for. I can’t see the trail of tears on the forum now when pets hit consistently for 200 dmg each or basically every spec gets gutted and neutered into a BM.

They’re going down the wrong route if they think pets hitting consistently is what’s good for this class or this game.

I’ve said this time and again, if you make people play or watch a bot, this game will fail as an esport. That is the antithesis of skill, fairness, or excitement.

First, GW2 will never enter the eSport scene like FPS games, or Starcraft/Starcraft 2, or the newer League of Legends because they have classes that have a skill ceiling. If you can easily be the best at a class, and no one can get better, the eSport players who make hundreds of thousands of dollars now, will not touch it with a ten foot pole. What is a skill celing? Take SC2 marines, and what MarineKingPrime can do with them, as a human, with no more than 4000 actions per minute, then watch what a computer can do with them, with 30,000 actions per minute. There is no ceiling for games that have done well in eSports, but the ceiling for GW2 is so close, the average player can reach it. That’s because they’ve dumbed it down too much.

Secondly, the Ranger, and his pet can hit a no-moving target, and I could still triple their damage with my Thief, and Warrior. Making the pet hit better will change nothing, except weaken unskilled players who already think this class is ok because they lose to the Ranger class.

Xsorus.2507:

jkctmc.8754:

Xsorus you could always play my wifes Necromancer. We’d just have to get the gear you wanted.

It won’t take me that long to get him up, I’m 43 right now on the Necro and just need to hit 60 (will use Crafting to get the last 20 levels)

only reason i’ve not to do right now is gearing out my PT in SWTOR>

No problem. I’m trying to convince myself to level an Engineer.

Interesting. Wish I had the energy to farm for another set of gear.

Xsorus you could always play my wifes Necromancer. We’d just have to get the gear you wanted.

jpnova.4572:

I’m too lazy to make videos but watch this for how a ranger can dominate in WvW.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdsmOmMwXCo

It’s easy to beat players you have no idea their skill, nor their gear. Watch how bad Xsorus beats people with his Ranger, then watch his Thief videos, and how he outperforms the Ranger by 10x as a Thief.

Saying; “I can do better with the other classes” does not mean I can’t do well on the Ranger. You’re just making that assumption, which is entirely false.

I can show you dozens of videos of five man groups consisting of Warrior, Guardian, Elementalist, Mesmers, and yes they sometimes have Necro’s in them for reasons you wouldn’t understand killing 30-50 people on a regular basis. But you will NEVER see a video with a Ranger in a group doing that.

You should know why by now, if you know this game at all.

I have 6 80s, counting my wifes Necromancer I play now on a regular basis. My desire to see the Ranger fixed has no bias, because quite frankly I can play my other classes when I choose to, or do what some of the better Rangers have done, like Xsorus, and quit. Which I’ve kind of have, but with so much time invested in the game, I kind of want to see it through, and see classes like the Ranger fixed.

Rangers are fine in sPvP/tPvP because they’ve nerfed so many abilities the other classes have, that they’ve brought the other classes down to the level of the Ranger. I think the reason many don’t realize this, is because they do not realize that when a change is labeled “PvP only” they actually mean sPvP/tPvP, and those changes do not effect WvW. It wasn’t until a bunch of us started running tests, before we caught this. These are only examples, but there are a lot more.

•Cluster Shot: This skill’s damage is reduced by 15% in PvP.

•Cloak and Dagger: This skill’s damage has been reduced by 33% in PvP only.

•Shield of Judgment: This skill’s protection duration has been set to 3 seconds from 5 seconds in PvP only.

•Selfless Daring: This trait had an efficiency with healing power that was reserved for healing skills only and has now been reduced to its intended level. Heal scaling has been reduced by 50% in PvP only.

•Healing Ripple: This skill’s scaling with healing power has been reduced by 50% in PvP only, as it had scaling that’s normally reserved for main healing skills. The maximum number of targets has also been reduced from infinite to 5.

•PvP downed health is now 75% of what it was.

Now step into the WvW arena, where damage isn’t nerfed for the top classes, while having access to two consumables, sigils you don’t have in sPvP, runes you don’t have in sPvP, class abilities you don’t have in sPvP, among other things. Once you enter into WvW, and there are no longer carebear nerfs to other classes, the Ranger begins to lack in regards to other classes.

You’ll be able to perform much better with other classes, than you will the Ranger, for reasons the forum trolls want to ignore. But hey, who am I to convince anyone? I’ve never lost to a Ranger since pre-release, on any of my toons, and lost twice on my wifes Necromancer. THAT’S IT, twice on a class I didn’t know, while winning many others. I roam 90% of my WvW time, and attend many fight clubs.

I could care less about PvE.

Einlanzer.1627:

Chokolata.1870:

Thieves were not nerfed . In no game ever, especially RTS games would a fast mobile class or faction be given high damage . Usually the slowest option would do the most damage … because it is slow and avoidable .

Thieves have unparalleled mobility and damage , and an good escape mechanisms . Hence they are OP .

No, they don’t. Their mobility is slightly above average, their damage is on part with other classes, and their defense is atrocious. The reason why they seem to be OP is because Stealth (despite being horrible in PvE) synergizes well with a glass cannon build. This makes them harder to counter than other classes with glass cannon builds, but they still die immediately if you manage it. Moreover, there is little else they can do well. If anything, Thieves need some buffs to their other builds/sets at this point.

Thieves do need some buffs, to some weapon sets. However they DO NOT have to have stealth. I have two builds I generally run on my Thief, based off how I feel, and what I want to play; The obvious stealth burst build, and the more potent bunker, little to no stealth build.

— A non-stealth, semi-bunker build I run, which works extremely well without stealth, and fully utilizes teleports, and evades.

With this build, I had to discover the need to use Tactical Strike at its fullest, this means increasing the stun/daze duration as far as I could get it. This used with Flanking Strike makes it hard to do any sustainable damage to me, even in a 2v1 situation. This is further strengthened when you’re chasing me around while using Infiltrators Strike, which gives us our best stun break, once we trigger our Shadow Return.

You really can’t get better survivability with any weapons set for any class, than you can with the Sword/Dagger. You can get 3x the evades of any class with Flanking Strike, which synergizes awesomely with Orrian Truffle & Meat Stew, whcih gives 40% endurance regen (this doesn’t stack with the Rangers “Natural Vigor”), but stacks with the Theives “Feline Grace”, which by the way gives endurance back, per dodge, and get this… With both the food, and and the Power of Inertia trait, the Thief will get 2 stacks of might per dodge.

The awesome thing about Sword/Dagger is how well it synergizes with the Shortbow mobility as well, with Infiltrator’s Arrow, and Choking Gas works very well with the utility Caltrops, a utility the Thief can put down with not only the utility skill, but also dodge rolls.

That one dodge from the Thief not only negates damage, but places a Caltrops on the ground, gains Swiftness, gains 2 stacks of Might, cures Cripple + Weakness (Fleet of Foot) and your dodge gives back Endurance. That’s pretty darn good for a defensive ability, Don’t you think? Wait, you’re not that kind of Thief who still hangs on the misconception that you need stealth, now are you?

Oh, wait, I got off subject with that last paragraph. Sorry. The second utility you take is Shadow Step, to add to your insane amount of mobility you already have with Sword and Shortbow.

Your heal is Withdraw, which adds to your lovely amount of evades you already have. This heal also cures Immobilize, Chill, and Cripple Now throw in 6x Superior Rune of the Adventurer, and this 15s heal gives you a TON OF ENDURANCE to keep dodging.

All of that, and I still get stealth with CnD.

What was it you were saying again? <scratches head>

Sebrent.3625:

And you can easily keep it up with torch and flame trap. Again, that was my primary point.

The only condition Engineer has reliable access to that the Ranger can only get via a pet is Confusion … which sucks in PvE.

How often do you do 60+ Fractals with your Ranger?

DevonCarver.5370:

We are currently working on making rewards for play outside of killing and capping more rewarding, but it is complicated. Giving people WXP for doing things is a very high likelihood.

Keep/Tower defense should be the most rewarding thing, since it is the most boring.

Every time the time ticks to zero, and you still own a keep/tower, there should be a reward attached to it for starters. Even if the enemy is beating on it still.

Hmm.. I don’t have any skill lag.

Would be cool if they rewarded us for running supply, and putting siege inside keeps/towers so that the zerg can defend them when they’re attacked.

Our issue is lack of blast finishers.

@Chopps

Once I get over this headache, I’ll give it a serious read over a hot cup of coffee. Today has SUCKED!

Robert Hrouda.1327:

VitalSuit.1980:

Thieves as well? I hope this is only for pve and not pvp because thieves are the last thing that needs a buff.

Most thieves don’t make it out of the lower tiers because you can mitigate them very easily. As a ranger I shut thieves down all the time who don’t use venoms, especially if you have something like healing spring and Lightning reflexes. One fixes stun, one fixes immob/cripple, and then it’s just dodge rolls at the right moment and CC to shut them down. Also bring wolf for f2 and stay nearby when thieves start doing their stealthy bit, and then be ready to watch them flee in terror.
That of course means their build options are highly limited, and when that happens people can hard counter you more easily.

The changes for rangers coming in this next patch are a step in the right direction for them. I am not part of that team so I won’t be announcing any of the changes unless told otherwise.

Oh really?

KensaiZen.3740:

Coldviper.6794:

KensaiZen.3740:

Coldviper.6794:

I for one am loving my ranger. The only thing that I have found is they lack a good utility for large scale fights. But I would rather be a ranger than a thief right now. But that’s just my opinion.

It depends what you want to do in large battles. I either support the zerg with search and rescue to keep the zerg alive and at max strength. Either that or flank the zerg and harrass them from the side, make people chase me with the “Rangers are easy kills” mentality. If i can pull away 5 people from a zerg. Thats effectively reducing their strength by quite a bit for losing very little on yours.

Plenty of ways to support the zerg.

Not that I entirely disagree but truthfully anyone can do many of those things. I’m referring to utility like mass confusion from mesmers and portals, mass blinds from necros, front line cc and support from guardians and warriors, ect…

There’s really nothing like that, that rangers can bring to the table. Unless you consider their long cooldown root. Which could be better on a shorter cooldown and aoe targetable.

Combo field+barrage. Combo field+rapid fire. Be sure to have peircing arrows. Ranger is very goot at spreading conditions non stop.

All classes suffer the same issue with Conditions. Burning, and Poison do not stack for damage, and once you hit 25 stacks of bleed, and vulnerability, you can’t increase the damage of those conditions.

Therefore, if you’ve got several Wells/Marks Necromancers on the front line, who can also pop Plague Form for a lovely 7,000 or higher armor, they’ll already have players at their max for condition damage.

So most will be doing very little damage, if they’re condition built.

More than a backstab Thief.

Show me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFnbuHbc774

With Shortbow? Option one so you can get more crits on the smaller, faster hits. If I were to use say Greatsword, I’d choose the second option.

Your build isn’t bad, and I love the traits you take. In WvW you’d need an Elementalist, and a Guardian protecting you, which might actually work, and fill the role I mostly reserve for a bursting Warrior.

Hmm…….

TheComet.6471:

jkctmc.8754:

lol….

The difference is that I can escape taking damage on my Theif, while you’ll end up dead, needing a rez, while I continue to fight. But you can go out to WvW with me, and prove me wrong. <winks>

Because thieves love to run away from a fight

And tbh, rangers can’t fight thieves…pets just go derpmode and do nothing once you enter stealth >_<

You call it running, I call it strategic retreating, or better yet, strategic positioning. <grins>

lol….

The difference is that I can escape taking damage on my Theif, while you’ll end up dead, needing a rez, while I continue to fight. But you can go out to WvW with me, and prove me wrong. <winks>

AlexRD.7914:

Are you seriously trying to compare the warrior’s horrible longbow to the diamond that is our shortbow? I’m sorry, but ranged we still deal the best sustained DPS around. Thieves shortbow is horrible, only works for mobility.

O.O

Non-Glass Canon my cluster bomb hits for 7k-9k crits to one person, and get this, it is an AoE. I’ve killed people with four Cluster Bombs, which by the way can be hasted. The #4 Choking Gas might not sound that good by itself (even though it reduces healing), but couple it with Caltrops, and you’re talking some amazing stuff.

AlexRD.7914:

Our sword is better than the warrior’s and the thieves,

How do you figure? I can place #2 on the ground, and teleport back to it from an infinite distance, so long as I do it within its duration. On top of that there is no better weapon set in the game, than a Thieves Sword/Dagger combo. There just isn’t. The problem is, most Thieves do not take advantage of the Tactical Strike, but increasing the daze duration.

AlexRD.7914:

our dagger has a very nice evade, but the 5th skill projectile is slow and always fails.

The Rangers; “Stalking Strike” is nice, but coupled with the Thieves mobility above with their sword, when I equip my dagger in offhand, I get an evade multiple times, while you have to wait 10 seconds. I can easily evade twice as much with my dagger attack, while having the potential to trait correctly, and evade three times as much with my dagger attack.

AlexRD.7914:

We’re very good in condition damage, able to deal long lasting burning with traps, our spikes aren’t that great but neither is anyone’s with the quickness nerf. Have you seen a healing regen ranger? It’s just wow, so impossible to kill.

Agreed, the Ranger has a great amount of condition damage. This issue though that all classes face with conditions, is that they do not synergize well with any other class, including two Rangers themselves. With Poison, and Burning not stacking for damage, and Bleeds maxing out at 25 stacks along with Vulnerability, condition damage isn’t enough for group on group play.

AlexRD.7914:

We never were supposed to excel in anything. We’re supposed to be good at everything, not very good in one thing. Elementalists however, stole our role. Now they do everything very well.

The Elementalist will always be the jack of all trades that excels in many areas because they have access to a lot of possibilities, many of which work better than other classes. We have yet to see an invulnerability build yet.

achensherd.2735:

TheWalkingDead.7298:

In what world are you guys playing in? Certainly not Tyria. Rangers are amazing solo point holders and duelist and do massive condition damage while still being very hardy. Beastmaster rangers are near unbeatable 1v1 and full trap/regen rangers do substantial AoE damage in team fights while applying many useful conditions like immobilize and poison and useful boons like vigor and regen.

He’s talking about WvW, though. I think many would concur that Rangers are in a good place in sPvP.

That’s because they’ve nerfed the other classes so much in sPvP, the Ranger can finally compete with the other classes.

Quarktastic.1027:

Semil.8279:

According to the wiki marsh drake’s f2 just bounces, no homing involved.

I use a marsh drake extensively. Those projectiles definitely track their target.

I have never been hit by it.

It’s one thing to be unhappy with the development of something, and another thing to hate something. I’d be far more forgiving if they hadn’t already had another MMO title under their name. At this point in time I will not forgive companies for turning out a buggy game, when they should have already learned from their prior experiences. You can be apologetic all you want for Anet, but fact of the matter is they did not turn out the game they promised. It’s about time development teams deliver what they promise.

The four maps were a bad idea because only two, possibly three tiers can field people on all four maps, while the rest are lucky to fill up one map most of the time, therefore creating a population balance you’d expect having three servers against each other, would have fixed an age old problem.

This is why one very large map would have worked out much, much better, than having four seperate maps, where the most common form of play becomes PvDoor, rather than World vs World Player vs Player combat. This is a lesson learned greatly by Warhammer, when they had too many area/maps for people to fight in.

I hang around after leveling 6 toons to 80, and fully gearing them out in Exotics hoping things change, and they speed up the process to fix things. But my hope is diminishing.

Quarktastic.1027:

jkctmc.8754:

Serraphin Storm.2369:

We have pets which can attack a seperate target and can have its own aoe attack. Making it possible for them to hit 5 different targets.

lol… If you ever see anyone get hit with the Drakes AoE, laugh at them. You don’t even have to dodge it, just strafe a little, and you can’t possibly be hit by it. I bet I could dodge 100 drake pets at once, and never get hit by their breath weapon.

This made me laugh, on a day I needed it. Thanks.

the drakes’ auto cast skill [Bite] cleaves. [Tail Swipe] is also a 360% AoE. And…I would love to see you try dodging a marsh drake’s F2 just by strafing.

I dodge them all the time. The pets in this game are insanely easy to avoid.

^^ I’ve never lagged in any game, even Aions massive battles. Lag is as much your fault, as it is the games fault.

And on the first page of the WvW forums, people are complaining about WvW skill lag.

Funny that. Again, I applaud your loyalty, but I just feel it is misplaced.

Serraphin Storm.2369:

We have pets which can attack a seperate target and can have its own aoe attack. Making it possible for them to hit 5 different targets.

lol… If you ever see anyone get hit with the Drakes AoE, laugh at them. You don’t even have to dodge it, just strafe a little, and you can’t possibly be hit by it. I bet I could dodge 100 drake pets at once, and never get hit by their breath weapon.

This made me laugh, on a day I needed it. Thanks.

Oozo.7856:

Give me the names of all of your friends so I can report them for NDA violations!

lol…. NO.

Well… Maybe you and I can get into beta then? Hmm……. <evil grin>

Preacher.9018:

jkctmc.8754:

They don’t need [MAPS], they need a single, very large map. Take a look at the Elder Scrolls Online concept of PvP, and how everyone will be fighting on the same map.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/media/videos/411

that in the end will turn out even smaller than what we have here..

The only good example would be Darkfall, where you need hour to cross the continent to get to place of battle – but it does not fit GW2 WvW concept, which is basically a big continuous minigame for score.

I applaud your loyalty to GW2, but I’ve been gaming since 1995, and my flavor of a game is PvP only. Quite frankly GW2 has been the worst PvP experience I’ve had with any game I’ve played (keep in mind I never played WoW). They would have to do a complete overhaul of this game to keep a majority of their playerbase. Two PvP oriented guilds that came to GW2 with me, with over 300 players each, have quit. Out of those players 20 of them are in ESO Beta, and they’ve all said; “this game might have just got the current weather of PvP right”.

They don’t need [MAPS], they need a single, very large map. Take a look at the Elder Scrolls Online concept of PvP, and how everyone will be fighting on the same map.

http://elderscrollsonline.com/en/media/videos/411

If I am not working, I’ll be there.

Leo G.4501:

jkctmc.8754:

You would think with hundreds of thousands of players playing this game, easily tens of thousands of Rangers out there; there would be at least one video showcasing a group with a Ranger in it, doing this, considering there are dozens with Warriors, Guardians, Elementalists, Thieves, and even Necromancers (awesome WvW fields). The best any Ranger can do is say, look at us killing some novices in a one vs one. All the while the better classes are killing a lot of people, against some insane odds.

And your qualms with WvW seem to steam more from the nature of WvW. Not sure why some PvPers don’t consider WvW to be PvP but anyone can log into WvW and kill a whole bunch of guys. They just need a zerg and some AoE. Profit.

lol.. Not everyone can run a group of five, and kill four, to eight times their number.

lol.. Not everyone can run a group of five, and kill four, to eight times their number.Zerg vs Zerg is PvP, just not my cup of tea, and sPvP is the most boring form of PvP, I’ve ever seen in all the games I’ve played since 1995.

lol.. Not everyone can run a group of five, and kill four, to eight times their number.Zerg vs Zerg is PvP, just not my cup of tea, and sPvP is the most boring form of PvP, I’ve ever seen in all the games I’ve played since 1995.

Leo G.4501:

I’m sure Warriors love the fact they are great….when strapped to a team and little where else.

Rangers would love it, if they could get that good, when strapped to a team, but they do not. That is the underlying issue with a Ranger. They don’t get any better than they are in a 1v1 situation, and could never pull off stuff like in that video.

You would think with hundreds of thousands of players playing this game, easily tens of thousands of Rangers out there; there would be at least one video showcasing a group with a Ranger in it, doing this, considering there are dozens with Warriors, Guardians, Elementalists, Thieves, and even Necromancers (awesome WvW fields). The best any Ranger can do is say, look at us killing some novices in a one vs one. All the while the better classes are killing a lot of people, against some insane odds.

When I go from my Ranger to my other 6 classes, it is like; I all of a sudden become this WvW god, yet when I get on my Ranger, I all of a sudden forget how to play this game.