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Are you guys for real? Hello kitty island have harder dungeon than GW2.
No, you DO NOT necessarily make a profit. Sometimes you do, sometimes you don’t.
The other day I opened 3 chests and got exactly 0 money back because all I got was boosters and other useless crap.
ya I’m going on the same streak. Quite depressing.
I’m really just farming skill points, else I won’t be going through this boring kitten.
I have a hard time getting skill points. The only other good source of skill points is open world champ bag farm(or chest train), Which is so boring I just don’t do them.
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I doubt Anet will release it again in dragon coffer. Since it is released before in black lion ticket. So I doubt Anet want to devalue the price.
So most likely even if Anet release the item again, you are still looking at the price tag of 1 black lion ticket, which isn’t cheap.
If you key farm regularly, you should just buy stacks and stacks of item before hand.
Besides saving time, you also don’t need to worry about price fluctuation. And you should just craft the same item everytime and memorize it to speed things up.
It helps if you have the collection expander since items can stack up to 1500. I rarely need to restock and even if I do, I just restock up to 1500.
There is very little time you need to place buy order. Usually when item stock get low (like 500), I just right click on the item and place 4 250 orders which takes a few second. And it is very rare you need to do so.
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Since everyone is so into sharing in this post I’ll share something.
You can farm skill points too. Instead of just farming keys, in 2 hours you can also farm 60 more skill points.
Weather that is worth it depends on if there’s good promotion at the time.
That being said skill farming is getting nerfed soon.
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It’s just another black lion key farm video.
But looks especially good now since the buy order of weapon is at 110 gold. And the ticket rate is higher at this time.
I think people used to run guardian because there’s no lvl10 requirement before. The video is nothing special.
I think Anet should fix it. Just because soloing arah have become such a huge part of the game. There are like 20+ people soloing arah in my guild and we aren’t even a dungeon guild. My guild is more a social guild.
That being said, just because you can’t solo a dungeon dont’ mean it is a bug. Those good players can still solo Lupi but might not be able to do it with all class.
I don’t even know why Anet keep making this easy dungeon which is suppose to be 5 man.
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I’m pretty much a farmer. And I dont’ do dungeon.
I do fractal because it gives good karma.
With all the complaining, Anet might take out skill point from dungeon too to balance things out. They already took out karma in dungeon.
have you tried dry top? you might have better chance there since both the events and mobs can drop it.
A bad pug can easily take 3-4hours to complete fotm 50
I have never done a 50 where it take 3-4 hours. I don’t think I have even done one over 2 hours. Usually someone rage quit by then and can repost lfg for better player to join.
But I play a guardian. Which is kind of easy mode.
But I dislike players who dish out next to nothing, as mentioned the infamous bearbow, they are everywhere and I just don’t get it.
If you are going to complain about bearbow. Please tell me the dps difference between a longbow camping ranger, and a GS or sword ranger.
If you can’t even answer that question. You are just a prejudice person.
I honestly dont’ know the answer to that. Because if a bow ranger is dealing like 20% less damage while not needing to sacrifice dps for dodging and running, I dont’ think it’s so bad.
1200+ range = out of party boons, especially might restacking
I won’t speak for dungeons, because that is so easy, probably anyone should be meleeing and try to do max dps.
But purely speaking for high level fractal. Most pug are doing so poorly on boss fight, 5 bearbow probably out dps them.
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But I dislike players who dish out next to nothing, as mentioned the infamous bearbow, they are everywhere and I just don’t get it.
If you are going to complain about bearbow. Please tell me the dps difference between a longbow camping ranger, and a GS or sword ranger.
If you can’t even answer that question. You are just a prejudice person.
I honestly dont’ know the answer to that. Because if a bow ranger is dealing like 20% less damage while not needing to sacrifice dps for dodging and running, I dont’ think it’s so bad.
I’ve always played under the pretense that if you can’t carry someone who isn’t good, then you’re no good
Pretty much this. Just because you are min maxing dont’ make you a good player.
I can wear berserker max dps traits and die 10 times in a fight. That dont’ make me a good player.
And some of those min maxer who die constantly is more annoying IMO. They are probably better of getting a bit of defensive traits.
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I also made 50+ gold from 5 skill points promoting planks before.
It’s called RNG.
That being said, if you spend enough skill points, like 100. You pretty much guarantee profits. Since on average it’ll give profit.
I have no idea what the wood planking promoting(or bronze ingot) is doing right now. I havn’t done it in a while.
What'll happen to skill point specific items?
in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns
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ya I really want to know what happen to Argus stone, philosopher stone, crystal etc
will they become useless after.
Instead of piles of piles of skill points, now you have piles of piles of materials. Which is kind of the same thing. But it might use bank space now.
Quite honestly, almost all my money is made from skill point. It’s not necessary the best way to make money. But it’s the most fun. Since I can play however I want since almost everything gives skill points.
Try to use it. SP is pretty much gold.
And many times when SP dont’ seem profitable, it can serve to “save money”.
For example, you have tier 5 blood but want tier 6 blood. Instead of selling the tier 5 blood and loss out on tax. Promote it to tier 6. And you end up getting the tier 6 blood much cheaper.
Just because someone can carry a bad pug, doesn’t mean that they want to. That it is fun for them to do so.
And isn’t that what games are supposed to be? Fun.
So why should someone be forced to play with those that they do not wish to play with at that moment?
Well, people are always demanding other people to be good. They never take a look at themselves and see they are not that good too.
That’s all I’m saying.
Quite honestly, the way I see it, most of the QQing are from bad players about terrible players.
I QQed before about bad pug myself, quite honestly, if I’m better, I wouldn’t complain.
So players who wish to have a relatively quick and smooth run but don’t have a huge number of guild mates or friends on have to put up with someone who doesn’t mind taking the time to smell the roses? And neither of the two are in the wrong, both ways are valid ways to play the game. They just happen to be two opposing ways.
What would solve 75% of the problems is if everyone would respect LFG’s.
Players putting in what they want into the LFG. And players reading the LFG before joining. And then if they find they don’t meet the requirements, graciously leaving the party on their own.
What would solve 24% of the problems is if people who used the LFG realized that since it is PUG runs that get formed on the LFG, that you can’t expect every run to go as expected.
You can’t solve all of them as there will always be jerks and trolls.
It’s human natural. Nothing you can do.
and if the person can’t carry bad pug, that person are probably not that good too. Many of the solo dungeon time are faster than most pug.
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you put a lfg asking for experienced people. They didn’t do much wrong except they are not experienced.
I presume you didn’t state you are at middle of dungeon.
LFG listing said: P2-Exp-3kAP-Heavy (at Lupi)
But also after they joined, I nicely asked if they could swap to heavies and that’s when I got kicked, I was even willing to deal with 1.8k and 2.2k and 1.2k ap (that’s roughly their ap) none above 3k
I dont’ even put AP requirement now. Some times I put AP requirement, and people get kittened of it. They’ll repeately join the party just so they can leave and make you repost.
Fortunately I got better at this game, so most of the easy dungeon/fractal I can get through even running with a bunch of new players.
Anet should probably add lfg filters or just hide AP. I dont’ think those new players appreciate to be left out of the group because of their AP.
you put a lfg asking for experienced people. They didn’t do much wrong except they are not experienced.
I presume you didn’t state you are at middle of dungeon.
If you want healers to matter, remove all skills number 6
Even then healers would still not matter in good parties.
If you want healers to truly matter you need to bring back the traditional “holy trinity” (which is still being used in modern games for a reason).
Pretty much. Anet could just nerf base healing. So unless people put stats in healing power, they can’t heal.
Also nerf might stacking and give monster more hp. So people dont’ kill boss with full might icebow in a few second.
Would probably make fractal 60 interesting if Anet did it.
- Now the optimal choice is zerker, but you can play with any stats. But you want to force people to play only with gear with healing power? Gear diversity much. What happen if I don’t have any healing power? I can’t use 1/10th of my skills and all those other skill and trait that give healing would be useless without the right gear?
- They just nerf might stacking less than 2 months ago, you want them to nerf it again? We can’t kill boss from fractal 50 in few seconds, niether several of the boss from Arah like Lupi. It’s normal dungeon that have some issue with that. It’s a content issue, nothing to do with might.
That’s why I suggest only do it for fractal 60. That’s for the hardcore people anyway.
I’m not telling you to use healing gear. I’m telling you to learn to dodge so you dont’ get hit.
The thing is the game is so easy already. And people are talking about buffing healing power etc. There was a video of a warrior dancing infront of subject alpha, and a staff water elementalist killing spider queen afk. You don’t need to buff healing power any more. (that was a while ago, and healing signet is nerfed a bit, and spider queen aoe in melee now).
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If you want healers to matter, remove all skills number 6
Even then healers would still not matter in good parties.
If you want healers to truly matter you need to bring back the traditional “holy trinity” (which is still being used in modern games for a reason).
Pretty much. Anet could just nerf base healing. So unless people put stats in healing power, they can’t heal.
Also nerf might stacking and give monster more hp. So people dont’ kill boss with full might icebow in a few second.
Would probably make fractal 60 interesting if Anet did it.
I dont’ think that many people is selling path in GW2.
So the new system is obviously better. At least for the people not selling dungeon path.
and people are kicking people before too. just because they can’t steal it don’t mean they can’t troll people.
I don’t think Anet should change it to a party system, just for the dungeon seller. Because other regular people can be griefed by party leader.
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Healing Power work perfectly. It’s not the fastest way, but the easiest.
I think that’s precisely why it is silly. It doesn’t matter how many dodges a person miss, or walking a red circle. You just don’t die.
I wear cleric/nomad gear on Mai Trin myself. And I have to say it is really silly. My reasoning is it doesn’t matter, since I almost do pug exclusively. And most of the time I spend 2-3 minutes just to take out the buff from Mai.
And even though I use berserker every where else. I some times take the easy way out and spec in force of will. That turns my hp from 11k to 18k. So when I make a mistake, and miss a dodge or block… I’m still at 9k-11k health. Which is the amount of health a max dps guardian have…
My point is it trivialize many interesting encounter. I don’t think that’s how the game is supposed to be played. Like, simply placing a few point into vitality traits, I can play badly and walk out fine.
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I’m pretty much afk auto attacking Grenth while piles of corpse lies around me.
I’m pretty sure healing power/toughness/vitality really boost your survivability.
The problem is speed run is pretty much the standard today. If you can’t clear the dungeon in full berserker max dps build, you get frowned on.
Question for you, when you were able to find 1, did you send 4 to go scout for a second one or take out the target you found and go from there? Curious what worked better for your group. Thanks!
nah, I’m in a large guild.
We prefind bounties because we doing tier 3 and want the merit. And since we want to make sure have enough time for taxing people and everyone gets credit that’s why we do it.
I have no idea how long it take a 5 man group to kill a bounty. If you are already doing bounties for guild commendation, you should know that answer better than me.
But I did a rough calculation that base on the probabilities. If your 5 man group prefind bounties, you’ll have 50% chance you found none, 40% chance you found one, 10% chance you found both.
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And that’s the point, you can pre-track some, but you are playing with the RNG gods on which you will get. Since we are talking a reduced return, is there any reason anyone is opposed to this idea and if so why? Maybe I am thinking about it wrong. Thanks for the feedback.
I’m not opposed of it.
Im saying I spend 30 minutes to prefind bounty every week.
And if you do what I did, your 5 man team have 50% chance that you’ll prefind 1 bounty already. So about 50% of the time all you need to do is kill 1 bounty and use the remaining time to find and kill 1 more.
And since you only need 30 merit to unlock trek?? I dont’ think it’s as unreasonable as you said.
That being said, I never tried 5 man bounties besides Michelle(since sparkfly is always full during teq time, we have a 5 man hunting there). So I’m not sure how hard it is to kill bounties with 5 man.
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You said it rewards larger guild. But you and your 5 man can’t take the time to pre-find 5 harder target.
That’s what I do every week. Spend 30 minutes to pre-find a target and follow it before the guild mission starts.
I complain about pavilion when it come out too. I dont’ think it’s hard. Just that no one bother to try if they can just hop instance.
I actually really like open worlds events. But unless people are locked into their instance, they won’t bother to try.
Nothing is better than a whole server coming together and try to do a common goal. That is kind of destroyed with instance hoping.
That being said, I think it’s common knowledge GW2 dont’ have instanced raid. So I’m not sure what you are getting at. Anet could possibly add some instanced content through guild mission. But GW2 guilds are in various size, and scaling could become a problem.
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I assume the LFG never stated good player only.
Maybe they are just expecting average players to join. And pay 15 silver for the previous work they did.
I’m not sure why OP assumed they are asking for people to carry them. Even if they arn’t good players, base on that LFG, they never said anything they want to be carried.
In fact a bunch of those group when not stated “experienced, melee lupi” are usually compose of first timer. And some of them manage to finish the dungeon just fine(just take very long).
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Your best bet is to get to 31+ first. The chance it drop for low level isn’t high.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Av4NvDVKEaOzdHJPaTlsRU5LeEJWN3hodklXWGFCU1E#gid=0
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18IHVJao5j85KOp6lBTOgO8qs4VYD3Xty-jKPZo8o-Q4/pubhtml
People already told you why they use alt account.
I wouldn’t want my main’s TP be clustered with black lion chest. It is not convenient if your main account you play on want to buy or sell things.
I dont’ know why you think it is unreasonable. I did the same thing with another item. I bought 5000 stacks of an item on an alt account. And it’s not only me, one of the mass trader talked about doing the same thing on the forum. My guildmate is also doing it, that’s how I get started.
You can also shift item through guild bank. Which dont’ take as long as you think. The tedious part is selling them, since Anet limit the amount of items you can sell every minutes.
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This is about a specific situation where the gold is locked away and impossible or very difficult to access (as in years to transfer over by sending gold alone). Not a situation where people have money in a retirement account that may take a few days to transfer over.
Most likely those people transfer their gold before Anet made the change.
And I think people are under the assumption it actually cause him/her a lot of gold. It’s only 2 million chest. Even if they bought every at 1 silver each, it only cost 20,000 gold. And it’s more like 15,000 gold since it start at 50 copper.
And your assumption is this is done by 1 person which may or may not be true. Not to mention they might use some automation tool so it’s not as tedious as you think(which is illegal).
And if for some miracle the account cleared all the black lion chest. He can actually use that account to buy things and move it to his main account.
And you say something like “why dont’ people just buy x item”. No one can perdict the future. If they can, everyone will be very rich. I’d like to know what item to buy now which have quick return and high profit. And guaranteed no lost.
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I can see the joy in making gold. My problem is if the method is one that means the gold is essentially forever out of reach. It seems to me a pointless way of doing it.
he most likely is moving the items to his main account and sell it there. Since he won’t be able to pick it up if he use the account assuming he use the TP as inventory.
I thought it’s like 2 million box in between 50 copper to 1 gold. That’s about 20k gold? And not all chest is bought by the 1 or group of people. There might be other people seeing a sudden decline on supply and chip in too.
If people have that much money, they probably dont’ care that much about using them. And the joy to them is making but not using money. It’s like saying why billionaires work. And apparently some work really hard.
The person is also most likely selling the items at his main account. Since he wont’ be able to pick up the gold if he sell it using the account he stock up the item.
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You are demanding something you know is impossible to obtain. Nice try.
First off, if you read my comments fully, I included other recent anomalies in my argument as well. Not just the BLC’s.
No-one outside of people who work for Arenanet can provide evidence of anything in regards to what is going on. It is all speculation. I am merely stating that it is financially advantageous for Arenanet to make such moves. High volume items that carry a 15% transaction tax add up quickly in the gold sink.
There is no reason for them not to manipulate certain items which have floundered for a long period of time.Then don’t act like that they are doing that. If you can’t prove it, don’t treat it as a fact.
He is just hypothesizing. Everyone hypothesize on things. Nothing wrong with it. I think it’s just a bit more serious because it is kind of accusation.
My hypothesis is some GW2 trading website is promoting flippers to flip black lion chest.
@Neural I honestly doubt black lion chest is a high volume item. If you think those 1 silver chest will have a dent on gold sink with tax. Just imagine what the content inside the black lion chest can sell for.
All those black lion skins, minis, nodes, dyes probably have much more effect on gold sink.
I thought it’s some trading website. Basically someone bought items X in massive amount. And tell people to buy it after.
Basically flippers telling flippers to hoard things and cut down the supplies.
And those flippers tell flippers on reddit and GW2 forums “oh wow, look at how much this item rises”. Better stock things up.
It’s kind of like a pyramid scheme. But if there are people after you that fall for it, you can still make money. If you are at the end of it, probably not.
I get to Lupi. But got stuck there. I have pretty bad reflex. And there is a really long walk after you die.
I’m thinking of leveling another charcter on another account. Maybe mesmer so I can rez myself after I die without taking so much down time.
I’m still in the process of learning the low level dungeon, and trying to cutdown the time before try doing arah again. I figure if I have problem meleeing Vallog, I won’t have much success doing Lupi.
^ There are dungeon outside of arah. Most experienced players should be able to solo those easier ones like CM or SE just by looking at videos. And there are many videos on youtube pretty much teach you everything you need to know.
Obviously, people only like to do arah because that’s where all the money is for selling path.
And many other path are easy too, the only reason people can’t do them is because for example cof path 1 or coe require people stepping on console or panel.
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Make sure you are fighting inside the restricted area. If you fight outside the circle you won’t get credit.
Also try to make sure you get enough credit in one of the area. If you run around a bunch to each battery, you might not kill enough to get credit. Easiest way is just to focus on 1 battery.
There might be diminishing return(not sure). So make sure to kill something outside sparkfly in between tequalt if you want to ensure that you aren’t hit by it.
I understand that some 1337 players can solo/duo dungeons or some parts of a path.
It’s probably not as hard as you think.
I think most average players would be able to solo most of it. It’s just take them much longer compare to good players.
an actual solo mode would be nice. Meaning 1 person can enter only. Add in timer, and a ladder to see who finish the fastest and seperate for each class.
I spend money every month either to buy gems or buy new account if it is on sale.
GW2 is a really good game. I dont’ think subscription or not have anything to do with it.
I think you are under the assumption that you can’t access the guild halls if you don’t own an expansion. (which may or may not be true)
There is a perfect explanation for this. Black Lion Chest have been disappearing from Tyria in an alarming rates.
Bandit have been stealing black lion chest and burrow it in Silver Waste.
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/49481
That is nothing. This item went from 1 gold to 20 gold.
from 1-2 copper to 1,6 silver is way bigger profit than 1 to 20 gold.
If you had spent 1 gold in BLT by then, you would have 5-10.000 BLT. Now, if you sell this for 1,6 silver each, you would have 80-160 gold. AFAIK, 80-160 gold >>>>> 20 gold.
That is 8 month ago. I could say the same thing about hallowean shield. This just happened recently.
http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/49481
That is nothing. This item went from 1 gold to 20 gold.
I dont’ know why people keep talking about demands.
It’s not like demands drive up the price of black lion chest or mystic coin. People arn’t even crafting legendaries now since they are waiting for the expansion.
Just look at dwayna’s recipe. It stays 20 gold for a whole year, and wintersday spike up more instead of dropping.
It’s not that the demand suddenly spiked. It’s just there are not much supplies entering the economy.
Flippers rule the worlds! Nothing you can do about it. Oh ya, quartz crystal will only go up. No one is doing dry top, and home instance only supply a few a day.
and I don’t know why people keep blaming flippers. If I told you the price of x item will sky rocket tomorrow, you’ll buy it too. Hack, most people complained about flippers probably flip or invest item before in GW2.
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