Guild Wars 2

Xilis.5647:

I would just like to remind everyone who is trying to compare this to gw1 (and trying to make it into gw1) that this is in fact called guild wars 2(2 is not 1 btw) and guild wars 1 failed as an esport.

P.S. if you like gw1 that much go play it and leave gw2, nobody is forcing you to stay here

Numerous fails in one post, well, I see it is possible.

First of all, I didn’t compare anything, just stated the fact, that the change reminds me of GW1. It is an opinion.

Secondly, I never said I want it to be like GW1.

Also, I have every right to say that I want it to be as awesome as GW1. Your argument of ‘it is GW2, not GW1’ is the invalid one. This is a different game, but what’s wrong with chasing the ideal?

Finally, GW1 existed in times when the only ‘e-sport’ was Starcraft. GW1 back then was an immensely engaging game with insanely well designed PvP. It didn’t even make an attempt at being an ‘e-sport’. In these years though, it would be an awesome one.

I believe you never touched GW1 and dare to speak in this popular ‘leave, no one’s forcing you to stay’ manner. Shame.

Oni.5429:

Regardless, this is the change we are stuck with now. I find it unfortunate, many top players do. Not because we’ll stop winning but because there were so many trick plays, tactics and cool ideas you could do with these.

But it was not fun, clunky and CHEESE (I did it myself) as well as it was diminishing the planning/build creation part.

It feels more like Guild Wars 1 now. I like Guild Wars 1. I like the change.

Thank God there is no going back.

Thank you for your understanding.

Sorry, no can do, not gonna happen.

I expect around 1 post per month saying that they “are watching and reading, but cannot respond to every thread” as well as that they “have some amazing stuff in the works they can’t talk about much yet” until December 2013 when matchmaking arrives to protect the skulls&bones laying all over the ghost town Mists.

This guy is legit.

What AN EPIC warrior gameplay.

This is that legitimate trolling that always makes me laugh.

Thank you Archaon! You made my day, brother! Thank you, ohh my I can’t believe that!

Nury.3062:

Sarcasm…or an undercover dev?!

Anet’s Chief Marketing Officer on his daily visit to the forums. I called it here!

Jokes aside, I enjoyed the game until I got bored. I advice others feeling the same to take a break and come back in few weeks.

Danto.6748:

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Gotta love how one guy comes, says he’s pro, disagrees with changes in few months old game, says others agree with him and requests the developer to revert the changes.

I couldn’t disagree more.

Well, let me explain something. This is not your game. It’s ours. Please do not generalise.

That’s a healthy change that enables us to actually prepare team builds as well as encourages balanced teams. It shifts the game from ’who’s got portal, who’s got ele to nuke treb, who’s got thief to solo Lord’ into ’who’s got the most universal team build, the team that can win no matter the odds’.

If things don’t work out well, this can always be changed back.

But you discrediting it from the start, proclaiming yourself a voice of top pvpers (like the game was being developed only around you) and ‘requesting top players’ to agree with you is just unbelievable. Please don’t force elitism on Guild Wars 2.

-1 OP
+1 Anet.

I like the change for being a change.

To those who oppose it – give it a try before criticizing. This may turn out to be a major game changer for currently very stale tPvP.

Let Anet experiment. We will talk about it in a week when things have more or less settled.

Have a great Wintersday.

It doesn’t work, does it?

THIS MAY BE RELEVANT:

Okay, I have a few months old, gaming-class PC and have been using it since the release with the first sound slider set to lowest (left side).

We are talking hundreds of hours of uptime.

Today I turned the first slider to highest quality (right edge), few minutes passed and boom, the sonar sound forcing me to restart the client. This has happened for the first time in hundreds of hours and in a very short time window after increasing the sound setting.

Coincidence?

HOW IT (PROBABLY) WORKS:

You use a skill with 15 seconds cooldown, get chilled and ALL cooldowns have 66% slower lasting rate. No matter whether you used them before or after being chilled, while the effect persists, your skills will recharge 66% slower.

Of course your recharge timer on the skill icon won’t increase. You will just notice that the cooldown shown on the icon doesn’t represent seconds, but 1,66 second per each second shown.

You gremlins should shut up and go back to the caves you crawled out from! =D

I’m not askingfor anything, just expressing my sorrow.

Robert Hrouda.1327:

We’ve actually been aware of this issue previously, but thank you very much for posting it. If you would rather not deal with trolls blasting you in the future for helping devs, please feel free to PM me these things and I will look into them.

On the other hand, calling your players trolls, even if they do behave in such unconstructive manner, may be seen as not only unprofessional but also rude.

I realise that you’re not calling anyone in particular a ‘troll’, but saying what you did, you acknowledge the reader that you disrespect some of those posters.

Sometimes it’s just better to back off saying nothing than engage in a discussion.

Dedalus.3065:

leman.7682:

Almost Artificial Intelligence

Thats the stupidest thing I ever saw…

You are in denial.
Also – close-to-artificial intelligence just doesn’t work when abbreviated.

Finally, please just leave and go troll your WvW forums.

Dedalus.3065:

Some good gw2 pvp to compare with: http://youtu.be/yzBn32Fqm9w

Talks about PvP.

Gives a link to WvW aka PvAAI (Player vs. Almost Artificial Intelligence).

Makes sense.

It’s nice you have some devs playing with you on American servers.

Not a single dev or GM has ever set foot here, on European server soil.

Somewhere down the road we might look at the possibility of other game modes, but at the moment we believe basic PvP architecture and features (matchmaking, observer mode, custom arenas, rankings) are more important for Guild Wars 2 PvP.

This more or less is an official statement from ArenaNet regarding your question.

With that said – it is possible GvG may be introduced, but few thing must be remembered first.

Guild halls, would need to be created. They will quite possibly come to PvE some day. These maps and places could be utilised later in GvG development.

The development of core PvP features, as also stated by ArenaNet, will take months or close to a whole year. With that said, GvG, even if planned, is months away.

Possible Conquest’s success after mentioned features are in place diminishes probability of GvG coming to GW2. Anet stated numerous times that they would like to position themselves for a competitive PvP game. In this regard they will be very stubborn and careful with additional game modes.

I could analyse this for hours and summon walls of text, but quite frankly I don’t believe there is a point. I hope you can have the general idea about GW2 GvG.

Thirsty.2875:

They have said it will be implemented but I don’t know that is on their radar as soon to implement features.

Source: http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/51308-gamescom-when-its-ready-authenticators-gvg/

Both the information provided through the link and the statement are incorrect. Anet has NEVER directly and officially stated that GvG will be developed. Never.
Have you even read the post? It starts with a direct dismissal of that information from Colin Johanson.

Darki.9204:

84k dmg in 1 hit, nerf warriors! <Discuss>

Leave, troll.

Doggie.3184:

I FRICKEN LOVE QUAGGANS SO FRICKEN MUCH I WANT ONE NOW@#!)

Sir, I’m with Tixx, Toyz & Co. Would you prefer a stuffed or petrified version?

SameHH.1048:

Yes it’s definitely changed, the view is not the same as before (more zoomed in giving disadvantage when using treb), and the camera seems fixed when I move the treb left or right, it used to move before with treb.

That’s pretty much it! I understand now what this weird feeling was.

Word is, Tixx’s toys aren’t what they seem to be.

The Underground whispers of Tixx’s shady dealings with Centaur warlords. Semi-automatic dredge rifles, Kalashukov model, are being mentioned.

But shhh, you didn’t hear it from me.

Burn after reading.

It seems that with recent patch Anet decided to remove Z-axis.

How do you like this change? I personally love it. Jumping is overrated. Wondering what happens to Jumping Puzzles now. Walking Puzzles anyone?

I can confirm something was changed.

In fact, the update occurred during a tourny I was playing. We entered Kyhlo and I had a chance to use treb for a while. It definitely felt different but I couldn’t recognise the difference.

I think there really is something with the camera.

Took us a long time to get it, but at last we’re here with no ugly outfits in matches.

GG

It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

I wasn’t there and couldn’t watch. Can someone describe the major points?

Thanks.

Discuss.

I’m amused by how the player-customer expectations tumbled over the years.

PvP’s good? Good? Yes, but a joke.

And thanks, I will enjoy pretty much anything but GW2. Might as well go back to GW1 since lots of friends went back there.

I’m surprised that there are still people playing. It’s quite amusing to be honest.

Now I’m going to pour some whisky into glass and play a good game.

Hint: not this one.

Long live sPvP! Cheers!

Syeria.4812:

Oh look, another troll thread posing as “a longtime supporter of Anet.”

Here’s a hint, your posting history is just two clicks away. It doesn’t take long to see the utter lack of “support” you’ve offered.

Whoru? Really? If you don’t like it, go away and leave us be. Just leave this topic. We don’t want you here with your arbitrary comments.

I’ve had my constructive input written and posted long before you wrote a word on these forums, I’ve been posting during BWEs. I’ve contributed in a ‘Lost Potential’ thread/ Check it out, even though it’s probablty TL;DR for you…

I literally despise such behaviour. We are free to share our feelings in a non-offensive manner, which we did and you dare to come here and attack us?

Leave. Now.

You know what – I was the biggest Anet supporter for many years.

I was an evangelist for the franchise.
I praised the Developer and the game long before it launched.
I advocated its cause every time I felt necessary.
I had a strong link with the Guild Wars brand.

Anet has done a marvelous job at destroying it with the PvP they gave us.

I first started to
get angry,
then rage,
then hate
and finally I just lost hope.

Now I don’t care anymore.

I feel we were treated as stateless people suffering from lack of civil rights and sovereign protection.
We were treated as no one cared about us.

Why would we care?

I’m not arguing that there are good players playing WvW.

I’m just stating the reality – WvW is an unbalanced and unstructured environment where competitivness is limited. Hence, there is probably marginal number of actually skilled players.

You can argue as long as you want, I want participate in this discussion since I don’t care what other people think about WvW. In my view it is for PvE players and it is PvE-oriented.

These things have changed since tPvP is quite difficult and WvW is easy-mode.

I can kill most of these PvE scrubs without my gear and with random traits/utilities since I know what they’re going to do even before they think of it.

That comes from my experience in tPvP and not from WvW aka PvE.

Julival.4318:

As long as you fight another player its called pvp.

This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve read in a month. And I read a lot.

I don’t even want to go into details why WvW isn’t PvP, but I will just to prove you wrong.

WvW involves too much mechanics that are out of single player’s control. We have insanely huge groups of players that do all kinds of stuff from gathering mushrooms and onions, killing chickens, dolyaks, veteran NPCs, ending with some guys trying to build a trebuchet or destroy a gate.

Explain to me, how is this PvP? Of course you will sometimes get to kill someone (most probably instagibbing some upscaled low level guy).

But it’s not PvP.

end of story.

How come I wasn’t bored with GW1 or LoL even though I’ve been playing these games for multiple straight months while a single month was enough to wear GW2 interest off?

Go figure…

I would do the same but I just can’t see myself wasting fat hours running in a zerg doing nothing meaningful since there are no good rewards for WvW.
I know the ultimate reason to play WvW should be fun, but how is this zerg and running through vast icy wastelands (the borderlands) fun?

This is the problem I hear mostly come up in the game in all communities I’m involved with and on the forums.
People don’t have fun anymore. They had a blast for few days/weeks, but it is gone.

I personally want this game to be good and I want to play it.

I just can’t find a single reason to PvP.
There are no real rewards that could push me into playing.
I don’t find Conquest fun.
I don’t find my Necro fun anymore.
Other professions are either too easy and simple (hello warrior) or just insult my taste (hello mesmer).
Maps like Forest and Legacy being ultimately boring and Capricorn being just wrong don’t help either.
Seeing the same builds all around is the final nail…

I had a blast for years playing GW1.

Can someone tell me what to do to have fun in this PvP? What am I doing wrong?
Let’s help each other. Dev’s are welcome to share their experiences.

The thing is we wanted a game with PvP that was advertised – spiritual successor to Guild Wars.

This game’s PvP doesn’t live up to its predecessor.

I rarely play hotjoin, but when I do I leave it as well.

Also, I stopped playing thee game already, too boring, no incentive, no people.

Feels like a wasteland.

Rune Jairusion.4610:

This was already posted a month ago. Cut the drama, get a life, and move on.

And still no single answer to our posts. That’s what you do when you get no attention, you keep reminding about yourself.

Well obviously something went wrong.

Either Anet didn’t approximate the volume properly, ran out of server space or just tech failed.

Regardless what happened, it wasn’t fun. It was a disaster. What will trial players who play through a refer a friend feature think?

My favourite Anet guy – Mike O’Brien – said that it’s one time events that people remember the most. This one will be remembered for some other reason than fun.
Anet needs to rethink their OTE design, otherwise it won’t work.

We are asking to fix it or let it go.

Guys, you knew before you bought this game that you’d be required to upgrade your hardware and your Internet connection every month for a major game release.

I mean really, you knew that.

Stop complaining and play the game.

And get a new PC and new connection.

We really would like to say it was fun… but it wasn’t.

Pls fix your game and stop this one time event misery.

Thanks.

Sanis.1096:

2 guys balancing esport = sick

“Former wannabe e-sport”, makes a difference.

aydenunited.5729:

Or maybe, just maybe, developers know that people will complain about balance in any MMO ad-nauseum and have grown a thick skin. Because honestly, 90% of the balance suggestions on this forum are terrible, and considering that very few of you want to learn how to beat something and would rather complain, I am excited that they aren’t bowing down to every horrible idea, and instead, improving PvP in steady, small, forward moving changes.

You didn’t understand my post. Please read it again (some important parts are even bold!) and come back then.
I was writing in general about the state of PvP (build diversity, modes, maps, roles, pace of the game, class viability) and the communication from the sPvP team. We basically don't know what they want their PvP to be. It is undefined.

Fix something, break something, the circle of life.

Happened to me as well.

Wyrmrider.1692:

LOL! That happened to me just last night. Led three enemies on a merry chase to the bottom of the lake before they finally killed me.

If only I’d had this speargun buff… I would have been like 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 snore

Hilarious story, brobro. You win my attention and I clap my hands in sign of appreciation!

JonathanSharp.7094:

aydenunited.5729:

leman.7682:

aydenunited.5729:

5v5 hotjoin alone makes it worthwhile. Thanks, Anet!

It doesn’t just for the simple fact 8v8’s are listed first. Also baddies will always prefer to play 8v8 so they can hide their lack of skill and brains behind numbers of the group.

Go troll somewhere else.

So don’t play 8v8? I know I won’t be. I don’t understand your point in calling what I said trolling. The “baddies” get to keep their 8v8, and people like me get 5v5. It’s win/win.

That’s what we were thinking. Lets people have the best of both worlds. Glad you like the 5v5’s!

We can watch the servers to see which players use more. If 5on5 is seeing more play, we can change the order and put them at the top of the lists. We’ll just keep an eye on it and see what the players gravitate towards.

Hope it doesn’t take you another month.

Some of you may know that Anet has introduced a new type of PvE items (Ascended) that has received a wide response from the PvE community.

The merged discussion has received over 9000 replies with almost 100000 views.
In this topic (created 3 days ago) community expressed its concerns regarding the new item type.
It took less than 24 hours to get a written response from Studio Design Director regarding these concerns.
Link here: A message from our…

Now, we know, that Anet made a PvE game with a tiny little bit of a PvP twist to it, sometimes.
We know that our topics don’t reach such high popularities.
We know we are spending less on gems than PvE community.

But we also deserve an answer from someone in charge, and pardon me when I say, someone higher than Jonathan Sharp or Jon Peters.

We have been raising concerns about PvP since the very first beta event. These concerns haven’t, I repeat, haven’t been addressed since then. We haven’t received any communication of even slightest importance besides empty promises that Anet cares about the PvP.

We need answers from someone in charge and we need them fast.
We need someone in charge to come and say, just as Mr. Whiteside did, how they imagine GW2 PvP in few months. What do they want it to be? What are your goals regarding PvP? What’s the vision?

@Jonathan and Jon: No offence, nothing personal. you both look like cool guys to hang out with. We know you like quotes, Chap, so here’s one I like.
“I have learned to respect ideas, wherever they come from. Often they come from clients.” Leo Burnett

aydenunited.5729:

5v5 hotjoin alone makes it worthwhile. Thanks, Anet!

It doesn’t just for the simple fact 8v8’s are listed first. Also baddies will always prefer to play 8v8 so they can hide their lack of skill and brains behind numbers of the group.

Go troll somewhere else.

Still better than much larger PvP team that needs a month to change PvP rewards, add an emote, add 2 statistics. The map was probably made much earlier so it doesn’t count.