They do not want us to HAVE to farm, and therefore decided this is the best course of action at this time
Whether its ectos or dust directly farming is involved especially for bifrost.
My thoughts: its fluff and not worth farming for the skins. Southsun despite the poor finale at least gave us tangible rewards.
Please stop making more coats for medium armour.
This plus stop making just skirts for female light armor wearers.
If you insist on these RNG boxes, let’s be transparent about it. Let people know what their odds are, so at least they can make an intelligent decision about whether or not they wish to participate.
I agree for once especially with the boxes that we buy from the gem store.
Maybe data-mining showed that bots have a harder time getting ecto so they decided to shift the power-of-loot in that direction. We really have no idea on their reasoning cycles unless they come out and tell us.
Exactly, transparency please anet.
No one agrees that we need a real raid/warband UI? Wow.
I’m sure most players agree in fact its something thats been asked for almost since the game launched, but to no avail, and TBH I doubt its on a short term radar at anet.
IMHO it was a clear oversight in the games design and should have been a bigger priority than even say the siege changes. The commander functionality is clearly totally insufficient for this purpose.
Plus it would be useful in PvE as well for large scale guild events.
what do you want from them. they had little time to respond since lyssa nerf. if they made a huge change now it would be rushed. let them plan it, and bandaid for now.
I will bet you anything the salvage stays. As if they would roll something like that back. That then restricts them in the future in terms of what they can do about actual dust drops because they won’t want the value going down too much.
Then to top it all off they raise the amount of dust required in the potion recipes.
I’m just curious how many of these updates with RNG boxes that have rare drops is it going to take before people learn to stop buying them if they don’t like it in the first place? You are only encouraging this type of content release in the future. After flame and frost and Southsun, you know the likely consequences of buying these new chests (getting next to nothing), so stop complaining about it here on the forums and just don’t buy them in the first place.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.
This is a bit like telling a gambling addict to just stop gambling.
Where I do commend Anet for “trying” to solve this issue, its not really solved, the loot in your end game 80 zones is still no where to be seen, all you did here was move the attention away from 1 T6 mat for a few days, some weapons requires a lot of dust and ecto, but now we have to salvage the ecto to get the dust,
Why could you not just FIX THE LOOT in your level 80 end game zones, this is poor.
This. I’d rather they fix it via drops. I use ectos for quite a lot I’d rather not have to salvage them for dust.
In fact if arenanet want to be transparent perhaps they could explain why this solution and not fixing drops?
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Skirts skirts and more skirts. Will light ever get pants? I mean that doesnt cost gem and look like something a cheap stripper would wear?
There are light armor pants..
also
the skirt above barely qualifies as a skirt :S
IMHO its definitely a skirt, there are shorter skirts already in game. The light set is the only one that I don’t like as a result, the medium and heavy sets look good.
This is exactly what I’ve been asking for from the gem store rather than RNG and more RNG.
Today, GoM siege’d ET’s Greenlake Tower in WvW, using the breakout event…we pushed them away and killed siegerazer took about 30 min-1 hour. Then after 5 or so minutes they had started another breakout which they eventually took Greenlake Tower. I think there should be a longer cool down limit than 30 min-1 hour to restart the breakout event, and maybe a even longer cool down for a server that is probably 3x larger than Eredon Terrace.
I’ve said this right from the moment they were introduced. Its far too short which leads to exploits like servers leaving siegerazer alive.
Problem with “bugs” like this is, they’re easy and quick to fix. Probably doesn’t take more than 5 minutes. Major bugs that affect traits and skills need more review, probably even a programmer and the guarantee that it’s working properly now. When it comes to balancing there’s even more stuff involved.
It is sad and discouraging, but that’s the way it is.
How is it even a bug?
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Anet just caught a break with the announcement at E3 that TESO won’t be out until Spring 2014. Personally I hope Wildstar and Archeage come out well before then.
Taking NA servers down during NA prime time is…. bullkitten.
I did love the whole 30 seconds notice we got, though. Thanks Anet.
Ah so this was a planned outage? Better than if unplanned I guess but you;re right 30 secs is ridiculous and something they promised they weren’t going to do.
We are aware of issues with WvW on some NA worlds, we are looking into it. ^MK
Tweeted about a minute ago . . .
SOME NA worlds? Does this mean on some matchups some servers are still able to get in but their opponents aren’t? If thats the case the whole thing should be brought down until they fix it. Unbelievable and the communicaton is shocking.
If people want to face off against new players, guilds, and strategies each week or even each day, the entire “server vs server” idea needs to be abandoned. We’re honestly better following a “Faction vs Faction” framework instead where players can log on each day to fight with a specific faction on one of the borderlands or EB. This way at least should solve the population imbalance, as well as, kill off server ques. This being by instituting multiple tiers that become available once one has been filled up.
I agree but its too late for that. Faction vs faction vs faction is one reason why TESO will be superior to GW2, and CU as well.
Then they would no longer be a long-term goal for players to achieve, which is currently their purpose. They would also lose their prestige, thus robbing them of much of their allure in the first place.
When you can get them by simple grinding, luck or just by buying them then wheres the prestige?
Mesmer has a lot of utility eg. with portals but generally ele is more fun to play in WvW.
It’s the use of words like crisis. The moment that word appeared in a thread and a few people started buying up crystalline dust, that was the moment the problem became compounded, if there was a problem there in the first place. Pointing it out is simple logic.
Nope its a conspiracy theory and like I said you lambast others for similar theories about anet.
But Anet is doing what they have to do for the good of the game, even if what that is kitten es off some people. You either can deal with it or you can’t. It won’t change what they’re going to do, because they need to keep the game going for the people who are enjoying it and playing it for more than just a legendary.
So how does nerfing farming, which make legendaries and other high end items harder, effect those who are playing the game for more than a legendary?
How is it for the good of the game to make stealth nerfs to farming and not be transparent with players?
The game is meant to be fun, by increasing the effort to make legendaries to an almost impossible grind (as opposed to a more skill based solution), as well as being based on pure luck, they make people like myself give up on that goal, whereas if they kept it to a more reasonable level I’d get one and most likely look to get a second one. Instead the second a comparable game comes out I am gone and I’m now pretty much just doing WvW and guild events until that happens.
Like others have said, the change is because of the current focus on Southsun. It’s why, not so coincidentally, prices for T6 bloods and scales have dropped as prices for T6 dusts have risen. Economics 101.
Its been stated that the price of T6 dust started reaching silly levels before Southsun started, with the nerfs to Orr which have occurred during southsun the situation will only get worse unless anet makes other changes.
This thread, and the other thread about it, probably did more to spike the price of T6 dust than the farming nerf did. Just saying.
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if the OP had a couple of stacks of T6 dust and posted this just to manipulate the market. I’m not say that did happen, but it’s certainly not beyond the realm of possibility.
And you lambast others for their criticism of anet…….
The concept of tiers has little meaning at this point and you should try to stop thinking of matchups in those terms. Servers are matched up by proximity of rating, not proximity of “tier”. If the tiers have ratings that are within the range of the random adjustment, they can end up fighting each other. This is going to result in blowouts, no doubt about it. However, we are not going to make changes to this after just 2 weeks of the system. There are things we can do. We will almost certainly end up adjusting the total added to each server rating to group the matchups a little more closely. First however, we need to let the ratings adjust by having more varied matchups like these. If you look at EU, which is using the exact same system, you can see matchups with numerous surprising results. The same will likely be true by the end of the NA matchup.
This is seriously all you’ve got to say!
TL;DR: We are going to wait at least a couple more weeks before changing any of the math behind the new system, but it is very likely we’ll decrease the size of the variation at some point.
You were told this was going to happen well before you implemented it, you even had 1 poster provide the math to prove it. You can undoubtedly run better analysis of the scenarios than the players can, yet you still went ahead and implemented it with a random factor range that was too wide. This situation is just ridiculous and shows how poorly the game is being supported I’m afraid.
And for that matter where is Mike O’Brien. He is after all the founder and president of Anet. During beta we frequently saw posts or videos he put together. At launch he updated the status of various problems being addressed. But since then nothing; so I wonder if he’s directing other projects now?
He is the head of Arenanet he doesn’t work on the game directly. I think he last appeared at the infamous AMA after the ascended item fiasco.
As for Eric who knows, I can’t recall hearing anything from him since the game launch.
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Taking the chance to attempt to describe what i saw of SoR during our havock “zerg stomp groups”,perhaps the two things that impressed me most would be that this server has one of the most amazing multiple time coverages ive seen since the Titan Alliance , mostly on the NA and EU times , for that i applaud the effort of bringing so much assistance and activeness into your WvW , what i won’t miss is that how those Gigantic ridiculous zergs of players (the Red Sea of SoR i called em) would continously roam the battlefield, i don’t think ive ever before seen that amount of players-blob in any coverage…i mean
I have, from JQ and BG.
I’d personally consider Guild Wars 2 a non-linear themepark, but I doubt that would ever catch on.
Non-linear themepark is actually a pretty good description.
Actually no. One of the developers (and again; it is their game so their views supersede all of ours, including yours)
These terms get defined through general usage not what the creator would like to market it as. Fact the creator wants to paint his product in a certain light not what it may actually be.
Hi Anet,
We need to keep T1 servers in same matchup but alternate colors. The gap between T1 & T2 is 130-150 points before this new system. We need to keep the RNG roll under 100-125 points please so servers like SoR don’t get demoted to T2 ever
SOR hasn’t been demoted, there are essentially no tiers any more. The issue is the range for the random factor is too large anet have been told this time and again since they first announced this yet they won’t listen. This matchup is ludicrous and can only damage WvW on SOS.
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Because if you’re not hard core, how vested in it would you be to worry about it? Hard-core farmers by definition would be the ones complaining. They’re the ones that have a real stake in farming. People who farm casually, there are a bunch in my guild, aren’t vested enough to scream at the forums.
I’m not hard core and I’m complaining. There are other that have complained that state that they only farm when they feel like it.
The Black Lion Salvage kit is not an advantage. All you can do with it is gain mats useful either for gold or crafting.
You’re just taking a very narrow, very literal view of whats constitutes an advantage. It is objectively better than any salvage kit in the game therefore it is offering something objectively better than the equivalent item in the game and its not cosmetic.
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Clearly there is no point in this conversation as you are dead set on refusing to admit what kind of game Guild Wars 2 actually is due to some archaic notion of what MMOs have to be.
But he’s correct. The game is a theme park, just one with some sand box elements.
Except for the fact (and yes it is a fact) that you don’t need anything in the cash shop. And nothing in the cash shop offers an objective advantage,
Black Lion Salvage Kit
And its not about P2W (I don’t think it is) its about the mechanisms in the game that heavily funnel players into buying gems for gold.
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I like the fact that there is no carrot to chase. The thing about those carrots is you can never catch them. They are just a lure; a trick. They are used to keep you marching along with your tunnel vision while your master works you for everything he can get, and leaves you to die in the dust when your strength has run out. Carrots are a predatory tactic used to keep you paying a subscription fee, nothing more.
Quite frankly I don’t see any difference between that and what anet are doing with the cash shop in fact it can be argued that what they are doing is more insidious with the RNG and the funnelling players towards the cash shop.
Looks like a green pearl broadsword. Don’t see what the big deal is.
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Exactly the model is very similar to the pearl GS which is goddawful. I do like the textures though.
Ele air? How about making the whole of scepter more attractive as a weapon option and conjured weapons.
As for the comment about not overshooting thats rather ironic considering their balance changes almost always overshoot, I’d far rather more incremental changes than they give us.
Most people in the game don’t realize that. They said they wanted more precursors. They’re getting em,
They are? Is the price of them going down?
In short, I totally understand that Anet intended the legendary process to be time-consuming and, well, legendary. When there are enough people who have already had them for months, though, it kind of feels like that ship has sailed. Making it progressively more difficult for people trying to get them later feels inequitable and counter-intuitive.
Fantastic point, and those of us who decide to try for a legendary late are essentially being punished for it. Which is ludicrous given the amount of legendaries around.
I like the textures but not the model.
I have been playing, casually and otherwise, MMOs since Pre CU SWG. I have played over a dozen such games and I have found that Guild Wars 2 seems to have at least as many, if not more updates to their game many others.
Now I am not a fanboi, nor am I a hardcore player (I enjoy my marriage and full time employement and the benefits gained thereof). What are your perceptions?
My perceptions are that they are mostly either fluff or worthless updates apart from the final part of Flame and Frost and going back further FOTM (ignoring the ascended item fiasco). The finale to Southsun was insulting. Bi monthly updates means squat if the quality is poor.
Oh, I wasn’t defending this game. Just saying most f2p games (from the start) are a joke :P I’m actually hoping my next MMO has a sub.
It says a a lot that GW2 has persuaded me that the sub model is superior.
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They’re chasing away the hard core farmers who complain on every forum in every game. If they all left, it wouldn’t substantially make that much of a difference. There aren’t as many of them as you seem to think.
How do you know its just hardcore farmers complaining?
it’s pretty vague actually
I agree. A nice big long post that told me absolutely nothing. In my opinion this does not bode well for the future of WvW.
Especially the fact that they are continuing on the siege vs siege path.
elder dragons are things for expansions i guess, not for monthly content
I really doubt they’re planning on that many expansions.
But you’ve made gold and you can buy mats. That’s what most people do. Most people don’t farm all the mats they need themselves. They play the game however they want,
What if I want to gather the mats myself because its more rewarding that way? I can’t play it how I want.
Nope, you can’t play how you want. This is the most often misquoted bit of Guild Wars advertising that I wish people would figure out.
I wasn’t quoting arenanet I was quoting you.
This is a question asked in a vacuum. The bots obviously lowered the price tremendously, and as a result, they were artificially priced too low. They went up to roughly normal price.
Normal price according to what? Priced too low according to what? This is not a market economy, its a virtual economy that is subject to the whims of anet aka God.
But you’ve made gold and you can buy mats. That’s what most people do. Most people don’t farm all the mats they need themselves. They play the game however they want,
What if I want to gather the mats myself because its more rewarding that way? I can’t play it how I want.
Look, this whole thing is silly. I’ve said this in other threads and I’ll say it again now. Why is Crystalline dust so expensive? Because it dropped a lot more in Orr than it does in Southsun and right now, South sun is the place to farm.
It started getting scarce before Southsun.
Follows the same principles and they even have someone who monitors the game’s economy.
It doesn’t follow the same principle when anet manipulates the market like they are doing.
A lot of ranger bunker builds have stats like these (apothecary) Good to see that they are selling them for such low prices .
2 gold and 70 karka shells per piece is a low price?
The problem is, if Anet institutes the mid term goals what would keep some players happy, a host of other players still start screaming “vertical progression, Anet lied!”. As a result, Anet sort of has their hands tied.
No the real problem is they can’t come up with horizontal progression goals. It doesn’t have to be vertical progression.
Given a choice and a chance, I would prefer to farm out the T6 materials I need for weapon making myself. However if you think about it, just picking out an example…
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Who, in the right frame of mind, will farm for the materials, given such overwhelming odds? Especially when most of the receipes require not just 5 powerful bloods, but a stack of 250 of the material.For example,
1. Stygian blade requires 250 powerful blood and 250 vicious claws.
2. Eye of Rodgort requires 500 powerful bloodYou get the idea…
Why shouldn’t we be able to farm to craft it ourselves? It adds to the sense of accomplishment. Arenanet don’t seem to get this.
I’d really like a comment from them on how they think people should be getting the T6 mats to craft these items.
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