Guild Wars 2

But there is something they need to say. They need to say “Yes we reduced the drop rates of T6 Mats and no, it is not a bug and we are not going to change it”

Or any answer at all….

Because based on that, people can decide if they want to continue to play a game whose only purpose is to part them their money to achieve aims that have been there since the game launched and were never this unattainable.

I bought X, I did not buy Y. Ig the game is now Y…tell me it’s Y and I will decide if I like it. If not, I honestly dont care…I’ll go do something else.

But my initial purchase and all the gem purchases I have made actually do “entitle” me to an answer. This is a product.

Same old boring observations, hee are the facts….again:

1) No one is asking for MORE T6 mats to drop…they are asking them to be put back to their previous rate. The one no-one complained about.

2) Just because YOU don’t want a legendary to enjoy the game….does not mean EVERYONE thinks like you.

3) A legendary, although always an effort to get is in most peoples eyes (myself included) is now just not worth bothering with…this was not the case 3 months ago. Indeed it is vastly unfair to change the drop rates of the items required when people have already achieved there goal when rates were reasonable.

4) Playing the auction house is an option that a LOT of people do not want to have to endure. This is an action based MMO…not a futures trading simulator. If I wanted to have spreadsheets and analyse the markets in order to make a killing and was capable fo being remotely succesful at this I would not be doing it here. I would be doing it with real money in real markets. This game is not a job.

5) Seriously, who cares about your observations? The sheer number of complaints about the loot issue are an indicator that a LOT of people aren’t happy. Not fixing this will eventually damage the game for everybody, because a lot of people will not play. Without players (and more importantly players who are happy to spend cash) this game will die. This will affect you whether or not you care about loot and legendaries.

6) That there has been absolutely no official response to thousands and thousands of posts about this issue is a very real indicator that the publisher and the developer do not care. Again, this is an issue.

7) Your thoughts on the matter are not relevant and have been repeated hundreds and hundreds of times.

8) The complainers thoughts ARE relevant and require an OFFICIAL response, not some speculative objection to the complaint based on YOUR personal theory that everyone should play the game like you do and want the same things out of it that you do.

There really is nothing at all worth saying on this topic unless an official response is received to any of the hundreds of threads that have already asked for one.

Your objections are adding nothing, the question has been asked, the developers need to answer…and then people can decide if they want to abandon the game and leave it to the people who dont want it changing.

Stone.6751:

Really? Why is that? Are you assuming its required that I buy it or buy a precursor? Because neither of those are required purchases.

Nope, its assuming that you will have to buy everything else, the T6 Mats, the lodestones etc etc…because if you wait for them to drop you will be waiting a VERY long time indeed.

Vayne.8563:

I’ll comment if and when I please.

Yes I like the sound of my own voice too.

Mentalhead.5721:

So, why is everybody complaining about RNG? I honestly don’t care about skins, and if I get one by chance from Boxes that’s fine.

Only thing that bothers me a bit is the extremely low drop rate of keys for Black Lion Chests, since I would really like to get some Transmutation stones.

YOU don’t care about skins. The people who are complaining DO care about skins.

Why is this concept so hard to grasp?

Because to be honest, the only people complaining about loot are the ones who DO want skins…..so what is the point of people who DONT want skins continually saying that the people who do want skins should not want skins. Especially when everyone, as the very same people arguing about it keep stating over and over again, should be free to play their way.

Especially when in fact, they already have those skins?

So bored of this topic it makes my eyes bleed.

Fair enough. So we’ll expect no more on the subject of loot drops being nerfed or not then….seeing as you don’t care.

Vayne.8563:

pricer.5091:

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care thakittens harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

I answered stuff like this LONG before I had my legendary. Matter of record. The only reason I cared about a legendary at all was to get that stupid blank icon off my front page, and I was quite content to take my time to get it. Nice try though.

Its not a “try”. You are continually interjecting into threads that simply don’t affect you. Why?

Stone.6751:

In the past couple of months I’ve managed to bank over 200gold.

That may or may not be a lot for some people, but its more gold that I “need” for what I want in the game.

Good. I’m happy for you, but if you want a legendary you are about 1800g short. Irrespective of whether you buy it or craft it.

Vayne.8563:

Oh, I know. Maybe there are different types of players who play games for different reasons. Or is that too implausible for you?

Or translated:
“I already have my legendary and I don’t care that it’s harder to get one now, because its not my problem”.

Wont ever happen, as I hate sPvP……nice to see you read the Night Angel books though

Edit: just trying to work out the 4 thieves bit and you must be using ambush, thieves guild and ….probably…merciful ambush in trickery line then?

Fair play…all seems a bit over-complicated, but each to their own I guess

WatchTheShow.7203:

First, it’s referred to as a “snake”, not a dragon.
Second, it’s “wack” or “jack”, not bash.

You clearly have a limited vocabulary and, more importantly, aren’t from England.

Hey if the cat can hit the “1” Button over and over again….it can play as well as anyone else right?

Erm? Really? This is definitely a euphemism for a solo pastime that allegedly sends you blind.

Doesn’t anyone proposing that you should be able to flat put buy skins understand that if this was the case they would not be desirable? Its their rarity that makes them attractive.

ANet would lose so much money by doing this that it will never happen.

If this game really was about WvW and (God help us all) sPvP, let me ask you the following two questions:
1) Why have ALL of the content patches not included ANY WvW additional maps, buildings, areas or equipment (apart from traps, which are a gimmick at best)? There have been minor changes, no focus on it by the developers at all.

2) Why has every single content patch included new PVE instances, events and areas?

You just WANT what you are saying to be true…but sadly I think you bought the wrong game.

Edit: there was an announcement that they are making some changes to the way WvW rewards people….but nothing about new content.

Vayne.8563:

I don’t believe it today’s market a B2P MMORPG is truly possible. Because no one can create content fast enough to satisfy the content locusts.

Seven, eight years ago, it was a different market. And even Guild Wars 1 had a cash shop that subsidized their growth. But now, MMOs are big business and in order to compete with the big boys, you have to put real time and MONEY into it. The B2P business plan includes the cash shop and I truly believe the cash shop…or a sub fee…is necessary. I don’t think any MMO can survive long term without one of those two.

Of course it can’t. By the time all of the involved parties have absorbed that initial cash income. Paying dividends, overheads, R&D for future games, salaries, bonuses, material costs etc etc what % of that initial cash injection is left? The selling of the game makes the game exist…the further transactions are what enable it to be maintained, expanded and operate.

Now I’m certainly not an ANet supporter in many aspects of the game, but seriously…are you real?

Because they decided to give people who have spent further money on the game than just buying the box a (very insignificant) thankyou reward you htink you should get the same for NOT spending any further money on the game? Awesome. You win the internet.

Not converted any gems to gold lately, but last time I did 4000 gems netted me 90g.

So therefore having 50,000 would get you approximately 1125g.

Which is not enough to even buy you ANY legendary. So, keep dreaming.

MakeitNeil.4561:

Well now, you need to put initiative gain in your traits. There is a trait to stealth and gain 2 initiative from it. Then you can gain initiative every 2 secs with another trait. ANd there are a bunch of other triats to gain initiative. There are even 2 utilities for it. After that you just use P/D and go Black Powder—-> Hartseeker for stealth. You then hearseeker three times in each black powder. Keep that up and they won’t know where you will black powder next and it will be impossible to find you. You never have to leave stealth if you don’t want to.

This entire paragraph highlights quite obviously that you know nothing at all about the problem you are attempting to highlight.

And if you are a thief who geared majorly for toughness…trust me, your heals are abysmal.

Always try and be the first through the door of the dungeon…then if you have this problem, YOU leave.

I dont participate in the buying of RNG boxes with real money…and yet I have both of the Jade items I actually wanted (shield and staff) anyway. Opened 1900 coffers that I bought off the TP, cost me about 50g.

This event is the fairest one yet, the normal coffers drop off EVERYTHING ….can’t see the problem.

It was clunky, poorly executed and frustrating. I’m glad its gone and hope it never returns.

Kichwas.7152:

The entire event seems designed to remind us of why we left WoW…

Node stealing has come to GW2.

Its not why I left WoW. I much preferred a system where a gathering node belonged to whoever got to it first. It made them much more fun to gather.

Its (a small) part of why the economy is so useless.

Opened 1900 chests…got 2 tickets, 10 minis and some potions…..

0.105% chance based on my result.

I can only tell you my odds obviously. I opened 1750 boxes I bought from the TP (the normal coffers obviously…not the rich ones) and also what I farmed (approximately 150 boxes. So, 1900 boxes or therabouts and I got:
Enough Zhaitaffy for exactly 3 Jorbreakers and I have 56 remaining. So 3056.
10 Risen Knight minis.
3 Hot potions
4 cold potions
1 Hard potion
1 charged potion
2 tickets.

So….MY odds of a ticket were 0.105%.

Quite waht I will do with the Jorbreakers is a mystery since theres no use for them other than the wings which can now be bought for les than 25g as someone in their infinite wisdom decided to make the wings also a random drop? Ill conceived at best.

90% of statistics are made up.

Kermit: “I love you sticky”
Stick: “….”
Kermit: “That pig never return my calls, she just doesnt doesnt understand me..”
Stick: “….”
Kermit: “Why don’t you move over here, a little bit closer”
Stick: “….”

Fade to black. Cue: 1970’s music.

Seeing as how whichever AoE you use can only hit 5 mobs / players, I’d go for one that does the most damage…so that would be Guardian or Warrior. Elementalists huge and undoubtedly impressive looking rain of fire is mostly watering the grass……with fire :O

Well, I got a spare couple of hundred bucks lying about…but you know what? Im keeping it. I’d rather ceremoniously burn it than donate it to this travesty on the slim possibility of sort-of-obtaining something that only exists on someone elses server space anyway…just so I can run around with a green blob that looks like Kermit the frog got a stick pregnant.

I’ll have drink for you if you get one though…

If you get no loot, why kill anything? Think I’ll log in later and just, you know, mooch about a bit…see what’s happening. Oh that’s right it will be those ‘dynamic’ events that occur on a set timer over and over again until the end of time. Might swing Volcanus about a bit in LA and reminisce about the good old days when I gathered all those mats to build it.

What am I talking about, I’m not logging in at all…it sounds far too boring.

Mirta.5029:

pricer.5091:

And its succeeding, by being complete garbage…

And that’s an opinion. My opinion would be opposite to yours. Fortunately we have such a wide market that everyone can chose a game that they like, right? Or are you forced to play this game that you don’t like?

I invested a lot of time AND money in this game…back when loot drops were fair and you felt fairly rewarded for your time. So yes, for now, I would rather keep playing and they FIX the problems they have introduced.

Not thakittens any of your business either way…

Arkham Creed.7358:

pricer.5091:

Blaine Tog.8304:

the uprising.6317:

So GW2 lets people play their way, unless that way is how most people play mmo’s?

Actually, kinda yes. GW2 is trying to be different, to shake up the stagnate genre.

And its succeeding, by being complete garbage…

Which will encourage others not to make the same stupid mistakes…thereby improving the genre.

I respectfully disagree. Guild Wars 2 is one of the best MMOs I’ve ever played (second only to the original Guild Wars) for exactly the reasons you call it garbage.

Funny how opinions work isn’t it?

I didnt GIVE any reaons for it being garbage. But, sigh, if you really want to know.

I used to like the game, in fact I still like WvW and running about with my guild. But there is NO reward for playing. There is no carrot. You are being endlessly driven to the cash shop and the developers are greedy and deaf.

In addition, it is the worst game I have ever played for actual bugs, in particular class skill ones, which lets face it are pretty important, not being fixed despite complaints being made since the game began.

So its good game….but ruined by poor customer support, not listening and greed.

Blaine Tog.8304:

the uprising.6317:

So GW2 lets people play their way, unless that way is how most people play mmo’s?

Actually, kinda yes. GW2 is trying to be different, to shake up the stagnate genre.

And its succeeding, by being complete garbage…

Which will encourage others not to make the same stupid mistakes…thereby improving the genre.

I still think theres a bug, or at least I hope so because only a complete moron would think that people are going to keep playing a game where you can kill over a hundred mobs and get mostly junk. Especially when the actual killing itself is so boring.

This game is a broken, rampant with greed and infested with bugs nightmare with bad design, poorly implemented content patches, almost daily fixes, unbalanced combat, skills that havent worked properly since the game went live, time-gating, RNG on the rampage, culling, horrendous lag, horrendous personal story, dreadful voice acting, repetitive and uninspiring combat, 30 second zerg kills on most supposed “world bosses” and constant nerfs to reward and buffs to punishment.

In a nutshell…it sucks.

It doesn’t want your admiration…it wants your cash.

And I quite literally don’t care if you disagree with me, thats my opinion after 2000+ hours of play.

And its all easily fixable….its just that no-one cares.

Persoanlly I spent the most money when I was grinding mats for Volcanus, just to get those bits I didnt quite have. As the next thing I am going for (legendary) seems to be now so far out of reach that it is nigh on impossible, I have vowed to not spend any more money until those T6 Mats start dropping like they used to.

The really good players will be died all in black and carrying Twilight, probably wearing CoF or Arah armor. They will be standing there (right in front of the Bank on the ledge) trying to look inconspicuous.

In Lions Arch obviously. They will be probably be spamming chat and you will think they are little children by their words and their use of grammar and spelling, but they aren’t, they are just “special”.

I know. I just couldn’t…stop…myself…..

must….take…more…medicine

:)

Is it “Advanced Windmill Tilting for the Eternally Hopeful”? Im playing that right now.

Yargesh.4965:

pricer.5091:

In fact I played games back in the 80’s that were more addictive than this one.

“There is a door to the left and one to the right”
a) Turnaround
b) Open the left door
c) Open the right door.

“You have chosen(Open the Right Door)”

“A goblin has stabbed you in the face”

“You are dead”

MUDs still exist. If you are so bored with the game why? Just why? Do you really need to stress yourself over a game?

I’m not. Honestly, I’m smoking a cigarette and drinking a Whisky. Im merely pointing out how poor I think the game is in the vain hope that someone will come fix it so I can get back to playing it.

It might be “quite logical” (in your mind anyway) that this is true, but that doesn’t make it actually true. Some people believe in God, I think it’s totally illogical. Who is right? No way of knowing, because there aren’t any facts to back either side up. Just like your assumption. But thanks for the input anyway.

In fact I played games back in the 80’s that were more addictive than this one.

“There is a door to the left and one to the right”
a) Turnaround
b) Open the left door
c) Open the right door.

“You have chosen(Open the Right Door)”

“A goblin has stabbed you in the face”

“You are dead”

Well I’m 42 and I think this game is boring beyond belief…..so hey, not all old people like this stuff. Just saying.

Thankyou so much for matching us against two teams who we, “Ring of Fire”, are beating by 460,000 points. It finally enabled me to complete a pesky borderlands POI and two vistas and I finally have my world completion.

Next week can we please be up against a server with a population of less than 10….I do so love lobbing Trebuchet cows at wildlife.

darkace.8925:

I understand what you’re saying. My point is this: if you play the game because you enjoy the game, then the farming nerfs will never be more than a minor inconvenience. If you enjoy the game, then expensive cosmetic items are luxuries. And while luxuries are nice – I myself am slowly working on a Legendary – they do not make or break a game. Thus farming nerfs, real or perceived, won’t make or break the game.

They will if you already find the game extremely boring and repetitive (wherever you are in the world) and your only reason for playing is to craft or buy something. Which is where I am right now. Happy you aren’t though.

Vive la difference etc etc

Or go grind CoF. About 2600 runs should get you everything youneed in the game and will only take 3 years.

Hmm, except personally I am bashing the game because it is extremely boring. Boring, dishonest, broken and greedy. And once you have achieved Level 80 and done every fractal, every dungeon, every map, every DE and every world boss many many times, there really is no point in playing, unless you count logging on for the two hours it takes to complete any of the so called content patches they’ve been releasing.

Or to do your daily…..yaaaaaaaaaawn.

Aeonblade.8709:

Having some players telling a very large portion of your player base to leave because “this is not the game you are looking for” is detrimental to the health and longevity of the game,

But quite typical of the fanboy / hater split on these forums and nothing to worry about, because according to the fanboys there aren’t any problems…so soon they’ll be the only ones left and then they’ll be quite happy. Albeit a bit lonely.

tolunart.2095:

LEARN how to do it instead of spending all your time here arguing that Anet should hand you everything on a silver platter.

Patronising much? I have a full set of T3armor and have crafted and equipped Volcanus, so I know about gathering cash and mats. My point is that is now MUCH harder than it was pre-November and has been getting worse with every patch.

Thats nerfs. Nerfs that havent been announced and aren’t welcome.

And in addition, flipping the TP? Really? I bought an action based MMO not a frickin’ futures trading simulator.