HoT Price Feedback + Base game included [merged]
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I was hoping you guys knew more, but I see it’s a high priced mystery to everyone.
We know some details like most of the masteries, some elite specializations, but we know very little on how big the PvE environments actually are. We haven’t seen teasers of the story either, like previews of the missions. Jeweler and Chef 500, hasn’t been talked about. Neither has challenging group or guild content yet. Besides we’ll be able to fight advance versions of the Wyvern later on in HoT.
(Please note this does not mean that this will happen, won’t happen, is planned to happen, and or not planned to happen)
#redacted
We get it we get you guys never officially have your minds made up about anything.
Random rudeness
Guild Halls Interview:
http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=36174
Small guilds reference at the bottom.
I got the glider today after pre-ordering the expansion and clicked on it. Where can I find it? Did I click it too soon? Will it show up when I download the beta or expansion?
probably beta, its been unlocked for your account.
And yet they price it closer to a standalone game than an expansion.
I agree with Kuru, the price is more along the lines of a campaign and not an expansion.
From Guild Wars 1.
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You do not get a character slot for basic.
We haven’t heard any discussion about this for months. I know Anet said, their original plans to do 500 jeweler was no longer an option and their plans needed to be changed. This post is just a reminder that people are still interested in being able to do something more with ascended rings than sell them to the merchant for 5 silver. The players that run Fractals daily and have multiple bank panes or storage characters that are holding these rings,. The ones that are waiting for some information about converting ascended rings that were stated to us in December 2013. It has been two years and HoT will be released soon. I hope you, Anet, haven’t left out your plans about ascended rings in HoT. So far, the topic about ascended rings has not been covered in any HoT press releases.
“Hey bud, buy this car! it looks cool, we aren’t sure if it runs well and we can’t show you everything or even let you try it till after you pay for it, but take our word for it, you’ll love it. "
That’s a great example hehe.
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I’m still disappointed with all of the lingering issues with the core game. Some events still don’t work right (and haven’t for 2+ years); even when they are tied to unlocks or achievements! Anet still hasn’t fixed the healing arrow bug in the newbie zones. That’s been going on for at least a month. They can’t even fix these basic items yet want the cost of a AAA title (and then some) for a handful of new zones and some new mechanics. This is very disappointing.
Hopefully, it will be a lot more than just a handful of new zones. Some bugs are hard to track down and fix. I haven’t heard of the healing arrow bug, Anet does solve most bugs. But people also want more content, they’re not an easy place to be in. Bugs vs more content.
Thanks for the video link of what the higher prices will get you. However I already have a Rytlock mini, lots of titles and no real interest in those guild hall decorations. The only thing of interest might be the glider skin, but somehow I suspect there will be more glider skins later in the gem store. (I also already have the base game but that’s another story).
When I get it, it will be the cheapest version.
I’m in the same boat. The only thing that interests me is the mini. And, if history is any indication, I’ll eventually be able to purchase that on sale in a year or so when I upgrade with a handful of gems . . . if I decide to stick around.
I love your signature by the way. So freakin’ true.
Most minis bought through account upgrades are Account bound and cannot be sold in stores.
2:06 – That Tengu in the foreground, whaaaaaat
That’s for the new WvW map.
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The content shown so far does not quite justify the price tag.
I could do with seeing more so I have a more informed opinion.
Hopefully, the next beta will allow us to see and interact more at the very least.
Yeah. As a person with a personal guild, it’s kind of concerning. I wasn’t planning on trying to get a guild hall for my personal guild. It’s just for extra bank space. How are the personal guilds supposed to upgrade it to get the vaults in this new system?
Do you really think they want you using personal guilds for storage instead of buying more storage space from the gemshop?
They’re fine with people doing that, otherwise they would have removed the option years ago.
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I think the bigger issue is it appears the amount of content doesn’t justify the price tag. That’s more of a marketing and promotion problem than anything. If the public saw a huge amount of content, I would bet you wouldn’t hear these complaints.
I agree, being able to see at one screenshot of accessible map areas may help.
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Let see …
$60 for GW2 with 5 character slots
$50 for HoT with 0 character slotsEven if the content is equal(very unlikely) you are still getting short changed from that alone.
I agree with the character slot differences, at the very least, one character slot should be included with kitten pricetag.
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Getting the same amount of content as the original GW2 would be a stretch to say the least. That is a LOT of content.
Another thing to note is that it is difficult to quantify the expansion exclusive content because it is extremely likely that there will be expansion-exclusive living world content, which would effectively increase the value of the expansion post-launch.
So, in your opinion, using Living World as free add-on content and the level 80 zones makes the price justifiable. So its like, quality over quantity. Potentially, less content than the main game but content that is more focus on the GW2 Endgame (for the core game’s price). That is a different perspective, thank you.
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This is just my opinion:
$50 is the price of a standalone game or a campaign in Guild Wars 1. It would be nice if we could see more of what Heart of Thorns has to offer. Right now, we’ve gotten a beta preview on a small map and fly-by trailers. Nothing about the story, the new PvP Activities, or new Guild Missions. Or at least get an map overview screenshot of what we’ll be able to visit. Like, can we visit the entire west of the map only? The original GW2 gave us access to several landmasses for $50-$60 dollars. If we’re getting the same amount of content as the original GW2, I would feel $50+ is a fine price. Thank you for reading this post.
Would you buy an Abaddon Regalia?
What others would you want to see?
Seems like they’re focused on GW1 gods, if they brought Abaddon over it would be interesting. To be dressed like the Abaddon statue in the Durmand Priory.
Hey everyone got those who are interested in seeing the weapons ingame before purchasing I have compiled some high res ingame images of the weapons and videos of the their animations.
http://dulfy.net/2015/06/09/gw2-scientific-weapon-skins-gallery/
Enjoy!
Thanks Dulfy, first time seeing one of your posts here.
Was anyone a guardian by chance?
Happen twice today with us, I was on a guardian both times. First time we all sent the error message immediately; Relogged back in and the instance was closed. Several hours later, it happen again on the Thumanova fractal. Except two of us delayed with sending the error report and we kept the instance open.
This is an interesting idea, awesome.
GW1 : Alot of choice,, alot of fun,, pretty balanced game
GW2 : Not much choice,, meta game,, totally unbalancedAlthough,, people say with less skills you have more balance… Well.. from what i have seen… GW2 is the most unbalanced game i’ve ever seen. Not even joking.
EDIT: It’s not the amount of skills that make gw2 so unbalanced. It’s more because there are no roles in gw2. Everyone does the same thing,, only different. But only 1 does it the best (with a few exceptions in certain situations)
1) GW1 was not balance, whenever there was a patch people (in general) expected a skill to get nerf or buffed. You never knew when it would happen, skills were adjusted several times trying to find a balance that was never fully reached. GW1 had plenty of meta builds that were posted on pvxwiki. Also, in GW1 people would ask you to ping your builds and if your build was undesirable you were kicked. Or some people would demand for you to run a particular meta build. At least GW2, people aren’t asking us to ping skills 1-5.
2) There are roles in GW2: Damage, Support, and Control. Its up to people to choose what they want to do. There is nearly equivalent freedom of choice in GW2 roles. You can even do traditional roles now, Nomad gear allows someone to be a tank if they wish.
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Note, there’s old thread about this issue, but it’s half a year (and numerous game updates) ago, so I’m not going to necro it. However, here’s link to the thread since it might be still relevant in some parts:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Ogre-Wars-in-new-game-update
Thank you for this post
Quick fix that I found worked: Stand down from any guild you’re in, then try again. I was having the same issues as described and got right in as soon as I wasn’t rep’ing a guild
Interesting workaround thank you.
Frostgorge is loading fine for me after the patch update today, thanks Anet.
Me and my sisters as of now are kinda tired of loging in nowadays, i dont see much of my guildmates anymore too, even if i want to do some dungeon the lfg takes a while to fill unlike what it used to do, there are many people at silverwaste but i always feel sleepy when im there idk, i dont really know what to do ingame now maybe i should take a break and comeback after expansion? but isnt that would make me feel left out once i came back? i love the game but its kinda sad the way it is now
Join an active guild. Instead of waiting for LFG to fill post an add yourself several people are waiting to see ads instead of posting. This leads them to believe dungeons aren’t active but they are. If you think you would feel left out, watch videos on the updates and view Anet’s twitch streams. The game is still active, there are things you can change to make your experience better.
Fractals need all the love they can get, to be honest.
Hell, even with the extra incentive I can’t drag myself into ’em most days.
Or, they could actually try making them less of an unfun and unrewarding experience. But I supposed forcing them down peoples throats as the only method for AP gain for three or more months works too… at least if you have low enough standards.
What? Fractals are fun if you’re with people who know what they’re doing, just like normal dungeons.
I’ve owned this game for ages now and I play every so often, I’m not sure if it’s the early leveling system or what, but I can’t get into the game, I’ve gotten one level 80 ele but that got boring fast, not because of the content but because of the class not suiting me so it was a pain to have to make another class. Also how are the classes at the moment? in terms of fun, although keep in mind I solo.
You may have better luck joining a guild that can you relate with instead of playing alone.
On Fort Aspenwood Borderland, the NPC ranger at North East Tower was attacking it self. It got its own health down to about 30% before it started to regenerate. When it was attacking itself, swords appeared on the North East Tower icon.
Cannot map to Frostgorge Sound, I and others are crashing when WPing in.
My English is very bad. Please forgive me.
Only use Google translator and you exchange.
Its ok. Anet reads the forums, they’ll see this.
Entered Fyonna’s room, cut scene and dialogue doesn’t start. So Fyonna stays neutral and can’t continue with the dungeon.
Anyone else having this problem? Only done it this one time, not going to spend anymore time trying to figure out if this was just this one case or not.
Probably the NPC is dead somewhere
Its working now.
Splintered Coast, Grove, and Silverwastes are working fine for me now thank you.
The wicked have no feel sad because no one can sanction them will go unpunished.
:(
Anet can, they just need to contact the company that is hosting the servers there. All is not lost.
The Sylvari are tired of catering to Pale Tree visitors, they closed access to the Grove…just like the Tengu….
When waypointing to the Grove or Splintered Coast WP is causing people clients to crash. 5/20 after the latest patch that fixed stealth.
there is stile a big problem for new players and returning
that miss out Scarlet ( like me QQ )
now i see you have a very big cap between the last dragon and living story 2you be trow in a pit with new NPC that you think who the ……. are they and they call you boss o.O ??
i hope Anet have a solution for this
its realy hard for players to understand what is going on
They said they will release Season 1, in the meantime you can youtube season 1
Wow all this protesting really had an impact on anets way of deciding names:
https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/5B7WMBFVote to rename LA to Dragons Arch
There is no option there to rename Lions Arch XD.
Sorry for all the images, I can’t figure out how to attach more than one at a time with the browse.. here’s the rest of my graphics settings:
Click preview, then you can attach another.
humm dragonhunter… do we tame dragons as pets o.O?… Do we fly a dragon with a 600 range as gap closer?… If all classes killed a dragon does that mean they are also dragonhunters??
O.o?
For sure they will change the name ^^, hope so…
Think it is too late for a name change, they wouldn’t change all of the marketing and in game references to Dragonhunter that easily. I would rather for Heart of Thorns to come out and not be delayed due to a name change.
Marketing ? I can’t really see what kind of marketing there can be behind a spec name…
Delay the expansion for a name change ? How ridiculous is that :p
I’m not trying to make fun of you. But do you realize that only balancing that can already represent a LOT of work, and it is clearly not done so they will keep working on it for a while. This will clearly last longer than changing a name, which wouldn’t represent more than a day of work once they made the final decision in my opinion.By the way, profession names never appear anywhere in the story. So spec names, which are facultative because you can choose not to equip them, will probably never be refered anywhere.
Then why is it so important ? Well, it is for some people. It is for A.Net also, otherwise they wouldn’t bother giving names. Important enough to matter, but if it’s not very present in game then it will be easy to change.
1) “Marketing ? I can’t really see what kind of marketing there can be behind a spec name…” There have been several game magazines, youtube videos, blog post, and more all covering The Dragonhunter. That is spreading press and news about the class, this is marking to others.
2) "Delay the expansion for a name change ? How ridiculous is that :p " I agree, its high ridiculous that is why Anet more than likely won’t change it. It isn’t worth changing a name and going through the localization all over again.
3) "By the way, profession names never appear anywhere in the story. " You haven’t played all of HoT Story missions to know this.
humm dragonhunter… do we tame dragons as pets o.O?… Do we fly a dragon with a 600 range as gap closer?… If all classes killed a dragon does that mean they are also dragonhunters??
O.o?
For sure they will change the name ^^, hope so…
Think it is too late for a name change, they wouldn’t change all of the marketing and in game references to Dragonhunter that easily. I would rather for Heart of Thorns to come out and not be delayed due to a name change.
Hello!
I have a question and would like someone to answer one of the ArenaNet or anyone here on the Forum when we Gemstore in the “Rox’s Quiver Backpack Cover” again?
Someone can answer ??
Thank you!
An alternative is to make one of the quiver ascended backpieces, like Swift Quiver of Flight.
Waiting the day when this thread gets a merge with the expansion one.
Happy new year!I think they are separate topics and can stand alone. Thanks for the suggestions, though. And Happy New Year to you, as well!
haha, I think you missed his point. XDDD When he said he’s waiting for the two threads to merge, he meant he’s waiting for Cantha to be the next expansion. Haha, you’re a very literal person, aren’t you Gaile? ;P
I thought the same as Gaile, nothing wrong being literal
Make it happen A.Net. This is what they need to be like when you equip the predator :O
Epic CoF Backpack
Yes I ran healie bombs and an disappointed I have to replace my full cleric ascended set. Any news on if we can armour/weapon trade our now useless healing stat equipment for something more practical ?
Blast finishers heal + Incoming heals heal allies + Heal skills trigger blast finisher + Mortar 1 becomes a blast finisher
Boom, instant healing build for engineer that is probably better than the old one.
I have to agree. To be honest here, what I think we are actually discussing, is the change of play style from what we are used too. Yet it seems like it will be more beneficial over all.
Yup, time to change supply crate for mortar elite I guess. Thank you.
Under the upcoming new trait system, the healing bomb engineer is no more. Unless someone found a way to turn bombs into explosions o.O.
You mean bombs into blasts, they are explosions
With Short fuse I imagine BoB will hit soon after you drop it. WIth the heals = blasts, mortar kit, FT blast, shield blast, well we’ll have a lot of blasts. We won’t be the massive regen a bombheal build is currently, but we’ll be able to burst up heals more efficiently… at least hopefully if they flesh out these traits to be powerful enough.
Thanks for the correction
Under the upcoming new trait system, the healing bomb engineer is no more. Unless someone found a way to turn bombs into explosions o.O.
This bug happens every time I preview any weapon, luckily it’s nothing serious.
Same happens to me now regardless of race.
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