Guild Wars 2

well, there is always condi teef

Kageseigi.2150:

10. To encourage more active play, give the thief the ability to backstab while unstealthed if the thief is behind the opponent.

loool

Jerus.4350:

sorrychief.2563:

For someone that likes to write alot you sure can’t read.

iirc engineer can maintain 25 vuln on a champ solo with condi duration food, sigil of fraility and some luck from precise sights.

Naw, with all that you’re more at around 15-20 max with meta setups, may burst to 25 with a good grenade barrage, but the fall fast. Frailty is iirc 1 extra vuln. Precise sights will give you an extra 1.5 vuln for every grenade skill you throw assuming max crit and RNG doesn’t hate you. But of course you’re not always spamming grenades but rotating through big hitters which takes away from your vuln production, but an overall gain in dps, especially with say Acid Bomb or Jump shot (which contributes vuln too), but even so with Flame Blast and Blunderbuss. Grenade spam is somewhere between 60-70% of your potential damage running the rotation.

To do some rough math, with 8.5 duration on your vuln with what you said. You’re at about 4.5 stacks of vuln per second spamming grenades ignoring frailty. Meaning in 8.5s you’ll stack up 38.5 stacks of vuln, but the durations are halved, so you’re really only getting 4.25 on a champ, and thusly getting 19.125, add in the ~1 stack from Frailty and you’re at about 20. But, again, that’s not counting the Vuln loss you’ll see from rotating properly for damage (or defense with toolkit or whatever), which is why it’s more around 15 with Meta but you can get up to 20 if you play inefficiently, a silver lining to being bad

As a note, something I’d considered but never tried to do the rough math on for whatever reason. Pretty sure Peril is superior to Frailty for Engi. If you use it you go up to a 10.25 duration on your grenade vuln, meaning 5.125 on champ and 23 stacks of vuln with grenade spam. But, again, with a good damage rotation you’ll drop to sub 20 still.

So, yeah, 15-20 with meta setup is basically the expectation people should have. But, that’s still great, and with a current Meta Warrior running Axe/Mace rotation with Rending Strikes, well between the two of you, you’re good, as they should be popping in with ~10 stacks themselves IIRC.

That’s good stuff right there. Can’t argue with the math and numbers you provided.

For someone that likes to write alot you sure can’t read.

iirc engineer can maintain 25 vuln on a champ solo with condi duration food, sigil of fraility and some luck from precise sights.

I’ve been entirely helpful in my posts as you mentioned however it wasn’t my video. Newer players might like to learn what their class is capable of from that video. Also I’ve never said an engineer could stack 25 might during a fight in any of posts. Where are you guys getting this from? I merely posted evidence engineer could prestack might for a team if the situation demands it, as can they stack stealth and provide rngesus projectile hate if such additional support is needed.

Engineer is more like “Jack of all stats, master of all”.

focus buffs pls

I claim only what I write. There are just some people who can’t read. 100% uptime on reflects? I never wrote anything like that too. :P

Silv.9207:

The only thing that can affect the guardian movement speed is that Chill and Cripple will no longer affect our movement skills. Nothing more.
We can teleport to a enemy with sword and meditation, leap with gs and if you really want a movement speed passive bonus there’s the apposite Rune. And we can obtain a large amount of swiftness.
No more. But it’is better than nothing.
I’ve try the necro (beautifull class) and they really haven’t a single good movement skill to go to a enemy, only wurm and shadow walk to teleport back ot they’re previous position, that sometimes isn’t even good to escape from a enemy.

Because necro has a silly ammount of soft cc when used properly and the right moment.

Ragnarox.9601:

“We are in a good spot right now”

When have you been kicked out of a dungeon for running guardian or when have you not seen a guardian in wvw or spvp?

I hope people don’t believe that, “jack of all trades master of none” thing. Engi can stack might, vuln, stealth just as well as any other class and provide rngesus projectile hate and condi cleanses.

lol

Can swirling winds still block treb shots on Kylo?

https://youtu.be/2jkVwIhX1qg

Although to be fair the person in the video did not use his supply crate as an extra blast finisher and only used 2 turrets. Also, I’m not sure if this method of stacking might is still able to be done.

Why do you assume I’m trolling? I thought combo fields and might stacking were a pretty solid mechanikittenil anet introduced PS.

edit: What’s with this silly kitten in my post? For an engineer main you sure don’t know much about the class.

I think you are forgetting engineer can swap out to different weapons/utilities/kits after prestacking 25 might solo or in a group without additional help from runes/sigils.

Post a few pics of flamethrower 11111 dps getting up to 10-20k+ and newer players might assume flamethrower autoattack is a high dps weapon.

Well I’m not too sure about contests, you wrote I “over-exagerate things” but everything in my post a good engineer can reasonably do unless we’re playing a different game.

Also those charts for guard dps seem kinda low.

Arantheal.7396:

sorrychief.2563:

Necro lowest dps? Funny wall of text.

here are the dps-tests for the classes’ respective meta-builds from last year.
note that necro has not received any mayor buffs to their dps since then.

http://www.dtguilds.com/forum/m/6563292/viewthread/13987449-dps-estimates-for-each-professions-in-30s-battles
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bAcpwAdwB24CxK_Ziy8ygISUHCkQepLfRMh2_PtP52o/edit?pli=1#gid=1883199869
As you clearly can see in the spreadsheet, necro has the single lowest dps in a vacuum without warri or ranger in a group, and even together with them never excels past the 7th rank

Please consider to inform yourself before you disregard any arguments in the future.
And besides that, this wall of text is still waiting for a reasonable rebuttal from you or anyone else.
Have a nice day.

For someone that likes to write alot you sure can’t read.

They won’t revert RTL nerf or people like daphoenix will just make videos of themselves kiting/trolling zergs and killing off the glassier builds still chasing.

Necro lowest dps? Funny wall of text.

It’s not like warriors were affected by soft cc before. It just means they will run a more offensive runeset.

Most players don’t even know engi has higher dps than most classes besides ele in pve.

I hope people don’t believe that, “jack of all trades master of none” thing. Engi can stack 25 might, 25 vuln, cleanse condis, stealth, dps, projectile reflect/destruction, solo dungeons like arah.

Icefrog

why wouldn’t a ranger use frost spirit or spotter?

that guard was running 3 in honor but still cool videos.

reminds me how annoying a super farmed demonhunter was in wc3 tanking everything with evasion/high armor and immolation.

Mace auto #3 should cleave enemies.

If you think this is bad look at other parts of the forum.

Tachenon.5270:

cocowoushi.7150:

lordkrall.7241:

The Mist works in mysterious ways.
It can easily be explained by simply returning at a point earlier on in the history of Tyria after going into the Mist and training as a Revenant.

Here is an example of that being confusing/bad. Beta spoilers ahead:

Say you are a Rev and you enter Maguuma to rescue people. You fight several waves of Mordrem until you are faced against the mounted rider which Rytlock jumps out to attack. You then proceed the fight and win.

Then Kas says, “What is that new magic you’re using?” To Rytlock.
While, as a Rev, I had been using the SAME king of magic since the start. Kas SHOULD know about it, especially if I played through LS2 with my Rev.

Well, once upon a time, I played a cleric in a 2nd edition D&D campaign… only, I wasn’t really playing a cleric, I was playing a thief. Only myself and the DM knew the truth. The other players had no clue until several sessions in, when one of them figured it out after seeing my ‘cleric’ attempt a backstab.

If anyone among the biconics might figure it out, it surely would be Jory, our pre-destined rock. Everybody else is too wrapped up in their own personal dramas.

But clerics can backstab you just have to dual class to thief and be a human.

It’s already being made easier regardless of what I need. I mean just look at mesmer changes.

Let’s make pve even more easy by having Aegis stack, too.

that killshot asura looked like he was just afking in the water.

wat

not as kittenurprise shot + sd proc firing out an engineer’s backside or behind gear shield.

why is there a kitten in my post? I do not like this.

A thief used steal on me (poison) and my smite condition crit him for 4k.

Wanze.8410:

Check out the Eviscerate range during beta:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=16&v=menV2oBRcBM

heatseeker warrior?
edit: heartseeker

Stompy.1387:

Casmurro.9046:

sorrychief.2563:

…

Why metabattle is the cancer that is killing gw2?

I called it out when it was first starting out.. nobody believed me D=

It’s too late the corruption has spread. Also pugs are demanding I glitch lupi with WOR, SR abuse Mai and bring frostbow to instantly destroy half a bosses health with 1 skill while pulling mossman underwater so we can talk about how challenging pve content is.

I’d like that critical strikes 15% heal to be baseline. I like that alot, only been playing thief for like 2 days and the class is so easy in pve just spam 3 on s/p and get tons of health back.

Got kicked from a pug fractal for being the last one to go down at Archdiviner. They also wiped earlier at Mossman and asked me to ping gear because I was the last to go down but got one shotted by an attack from stealth because let’s be honest a 10k base hp class can’t get one shotted by a fractal boss while 4 others are eating dirt.

I even offered to roll guardian if they had trouble dodging. Gotta love bad players.

OP asked which of the 2 builds he provided us was better. that’s not really helping him at all, Neko.

some serious lrn2read issues going on

OP didn’t ask for good builds
OP didn’t even ask for zerk builds
edit: for people that like to write alot you guys sure can’t read.

roll med guard with MH sword

Invoker originally had 20+ something skills while most other heroes only had 4-5. It would be unfair if you gave ele even more skills than other classes.

lordhelmos.7623:

While I enjoy the interesting music that has come out of some of those instrument macros, I think legalizing macros for music has opened a very serious can of worms.

Scepter Elementalists using element cycle macros to burn through their rotation and proc like 7 lightning strikes in a row and macro thieves are starting to become mainstream.

I can’t play a 1hour session in SPVP without running into at least one of these (which is so obvious to see once you instant explode from an ele and look through your combat log to see nothing but a long stream of lighting strikes chained together in .5 seconds – done way faster than the human hand can press).

I report all of them I can, but it’s not enough. I think its banhammer time. Unleash the Dhuum.

lol

I’m proud of my lvl 60 something fat norn thief. Soon he will become the best acrobat in all of Tyria.

Acotje.5689:

Filthy elitists.

wait wat

doesn’t matter how much armor or healing power you have if you don’t

the rabbit didn’t deserve it

you could probably run full clerics, ping zerk gear and carry an icebow/LH none would be able to tell the difference unless they have incomming healing checked in their combat logs.

this whole entire thread is golden.

Being the pug in a fractal group of 3 I expected the other players to atleast know their class.

Boy, was I wrong.

Staff ele not using lavafont or meteor shower
Thief camping shortbow.
Guardian camping staff.
Pug engineer who was playing perfectly

We wipe at grawl, ask ele if he has a offhand focus to help with the 2nd phases since they won’t take advantage of my WOR or GS #5. Guy answers for the ele, “He’s a staff ele. Not a focus ele.”

I might have read too much Heller but there are noiseless super subsonic stealth bombers (it moves faster than light, just turn a lamp on/off and see for yourself!) that can drop bombs that penetrate deep into the earth without much risk of destroying the earth itself. Mordemoth forces wouldn’t stand a chance.

“highest available technology (aka USA army)”
that made me giggle