Guild Wars 2

pdavis.8031:

Hehe I haven’t seen a valid argument from either side. The pros just cry “I want it!”, “other MMOS have it”, “If you don’t like it gtfo!!” and the anti group is “NO!! It’ll hurt immersion and cause griefers!” “It’s dumb!!”,“If you don’t like it gtfo!”

Sadly, this thread is turning into a hater fest. Most of what I’ve seen is not discussion, but both parties bashing and abusing each other.

not true, i just gave a solution for both parties without even one single bashing, first read some of the actual argument before making lame statements.

Seera.5916:

sorudo.9054:

what about this, have a flag system that works shard-wise.
when you join PvE you are in the default shard, when you flag your self for duels you are transported in a PvP centric shard.
it doesn’t transport you in a completely different map, just a shard of the same map that contains like minded players.

that way anyone who can’t stand PvP in any sense or shape doesn’t have to deal with them and any player who doesn’t mind PvP can play among their own crown, a win-win in every sense.
they can always make it so that even among the PvP crowd you can decline duels and put your self on non-active so when you just want to do an event duel challenges don’t bother you.

The problem is a fair number of those who want open world dueling want non-participants to be able to watch. And even those who would not wish to fight other players might enjoy watching other players fight each other.

I could see role plays springing up around a fighter’s guild tournament. I could see Guilds using it as an activity or a way to compare two builds.

Not to mention the immature ones who want it simply to grief others want access to the non-duelers so they can harass them. Not saying any here are in this sub-group, but you can’t deny that they exist and would likely be vocal if ANet asked for shard or no shard for open world dueling.

non-duelers don’t have to deal with them, you can’t duel at all in a non-duel shard.

dragonkain.3984:

Please return all town clothes that you were previously selling + add more of them in store(for example npc’s have alot of such things, but players never had a chance to wear those)

only if it’s an actual skin instead of a full costume or tonic, i really don’t want yet another failure.

what about this, have a flag system that works shard-wise.
when you join PvE you are in the default shard, when you flag your self for duels you are transported in a PvP centric shard.
it doesn’t transport you in a completely different map, just a shard of the same map that contains like minded players.

that way anyone who can’t stand PvP in any sense or shape doesn’t have to deal with them and any player who doesn’t mind PvP can play among their own crown, a win-win in every sense.
they can always make it so that even among the PvP crowd you can decline duels and put your self on non-active so when you just want to do an event duel challenges don’t bother you.

play when you want, what you want.
take it from a super casual, the prof doesn’t matter at all, it’s you attitude on how forced you feel like doing something.
if you don’t care as long as you like it then you’re doing casual the right way, when you constantly chase others and feel the need to impress others you’re way to busy to be a casual.

hint: not everyone completed the PS, even ppl who played the game from day one so zhaitan is technically still alive.

EvilSardine.9635:

It’s simple.

-Allow dueling anywhere. Those PvE players who say “I don’t want to see people dueling in my lions arch” are hypocrites. They are the first to fill LA with stupid costume brawls.

-Put in option in settings to ignore duel requests for those PvErs who are afraid or intimidated of duels.

-Saying to “go into a PvP arena” is not the answer since PvP builds are dumbed down and boring.

There’s absolutely no reason why this shouldn’t be added to the game.

harrasments, trolls, the fact that PvP doesn’t belong in PvE in both PvE-er’s wishes and lore.
also, that you think PvP arenas are boring doesn’t mean we PvE-ers have to deal with the PvP crowd ruining PvE, you have your place so use it or stop complaining.

what GW2 misses is immersion, there is absolutely no immersion whatsoever.
this is partly how the world map is build, partly how the gameplay is done.

world map
the map is simply to empty and wildlife is to static, it’s like the world froze over and only reacts when you get close.
worse, it’s not even feeling natural, a deer doesn’t fight back, it runs for it’s life.
i know this game is based on a fantasy settings but at least keep some things realistic so it doesn’t feel to much off, i would love to see drakes hunt fish and black panthers chase a deer.
raptors don’t stand around randomly in an open space, they stay in a group while the females stay close to the nest as protection.

in terms of map build, it would be nice if we have an actual forest to play in, not a grass field with some trees randomly placed.
i don’t say that everything has to be filled with bushes, there are plenty of open forests that look allot more natural then what we have in GW2:
http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/166/8/4/Open_Forest_by_kjherstin_stock.png
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-93P6mGBiSa4/UNI0vn86kcI/AAAAAAAACNg/8gHS8iJeo9Y/s1600/IMAG2281.jpg
http://static.panoramio.com/photos/large/59973130.jpg
more full grass and better looking ground really doesn’t hurt, better yet, it adds immersion.

gameplay
i know that it’s all everybody’s own preference how they like to play a game, personally i think that they should’ve made a mixture of what GW1 has and what skyrim has.
when you fight an enemy it’s hardly immersive when the enemy can’t be fought the way you want to, attack and all you can do is what the skills allow you to do.
one way to solve this is by making sure you can block at any time, a press of a button and you’re on your way to say alive that much longer.
this will also add allot more strategy, surely allot more then what we can right now.
you will be able to attack within timing and come up with a more communicative strategy, like “you distract the enemy with small hits and blocks while we build up powerful spells, when we’re ready ill give you a sign and you roll away while we nuke the place”.
this will also make more tougher enemies possible, no more braindead zergs because they will only kill anyone who doesn’t use their brain.

this will not only improve on the immersion, it will make the game allot more dynamic.

i have a question for all the yaysayers, how does it benefit the game in a whole when duels are shuffed in everybody’s face, even if they simply don’t want it to happen around them?
it just baffles me how many excuses i see how much they want duels in the game yet they constantly justify all the trolling and harassment, the thing that will 100% happen 24/7.

duels in an open world, no matter how much you sugarcoat it, is a horrible idea.
it creates problems and makes grieving a certainty, the current PvE is pretty much without any problems or grieving and as long as duels creates them, even if it’s outside the fault of duel lovers, it’s a really bad idea.

the problem here is that there are alternatives, the current one is sPvP, a new one would be an arena within a closed environment like a gladiator arena. (might be nice to watch others fight as audience)
now you might wonder what the problem is, well the problem is that the duel lovers don’t like to compromise even if all but one is possible.
the only think that isn’t possible is the open world part, you can have PvE gear battles with all it’s glory as long as it’s not in the PvE open world.

duels are and will always be a toxic environment, sweat talking your way in to it doesn’t change a thing.
so it’s a really simple choice, ether accept with you get/have or don’t do it.
PvE is already toxic enough with all the gear/prof discrimination, add duels in it and the game will surely if not immediately die a painful death.

silvermember.8941:

Which that said, as a former clicker Have you EVER EVER considered getting a logitech G600 or razer naga? Once I got a gaming mouse my clicking days were over. it was a little hard at first but after that initial week shock it became second nature and possibly the best thing I have bought in terms of gaming.

i have a razer naga and all i use are the regular buttons and the 10 11 & 12 buttons, i even set them on F1 F2 and F3 so i can quickly use the F key’s in GW2 and MMO’s i set the 3 F key’s. (if only we could move the F key skills, i pretty much never use F1 on my engi but i need the F4 skill)
the rest becomes quite useless, they are simply out of reach of the thumb and to close together to make good moves without making to much mistakes.

what if they allow duels in orr only, let’s see how “fun” it really is.
it’s out of the way of every PvE-er and within the open world, not that you can do anything there but you have the option regardless.

SkylightMoon.1980:

sorudo.9054:

we really don’t need yet another dungeon or fracture, we need new zones.
dungeons are for ppl who enjoy dungeons, same for fractures, but there has never bin a proper new zone in the game.

we have bin asking to add the crystal desert for almost 2 years and we still hear nothing about that, all we get is a lvl 80-only zone and a poor one at that.
i would like to see several zones added, not just lvl 80 but also around lvl 50 so we have new places to enjoy while leveling up a character.

Ye but honestly I wouldn’t want a new zone if it was just a zergy mess like end-game zones are now. Ive said this many times but open world content is bound to be zergy simply because difficult content that isn’t zergy requires coordination and open world groups cannot and will not ever be able to coordinate. You can’t throw a bunch of random people in a map, expect them to get along, to get in ts, to coordinate to get a boss killed. Teq and the wurm to this day have made it obvious how the only difficulty behind the bosses is getting the coordination there.

a map without champs reduces the zergy part, there will always be a type of zerg but they can at least prevent one kind from happening.

we really don’t need yet another dungeon or fracture, we need new zones.
dungeons are for ppl who enjoy dungeons, same for fractures, but there has never bin a proper new zone in the game.

we have bin asking to add the crystal desert for almost 2 years and we still hear nothing about that, all we get is a lvl 80-only zone and a poor one at that.
i would like to see several zones added, not just lvl 80 but also around lvl 50 so we have new places to enjoy while leveling up a character.

DonQuack.9025:

… never played STO I see.

beside the first 20 levels, STO is actually quite grind free.
i leveled my character to max within 2 weeks and that was without dedicated rushing to level, just think how fast i can do that if i did dedicate my self to level a character.
in GW2 on the other hand it’s a pain to level, not just because of the higher max level but also because the game doesn’t really reward you when leveling up.

if the whole scaling down was allot less noticeable i would not mind but it’s putting a damper on noticeable progress.

all i want are easy to gain quivers, a ranger simply needs a quiver to be a true ranger.

cultural armor is already prestige armor, overly expensive and most skins look horrible but still……

since the school uniforms are obviously based on the anime/japanese uniforms, guy’s have quite some choices too.
http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/06302008/1/6/1/8/1618dc3dbb5b50_full.png
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs46/i/2009/169/e/0/boys_uniforms_01_by_NeonGenesisEVARei.jpg

silvermember.8941:

sorudo.9054:

Aeolus.3615:

sorudo.9054:

Aeolus.3615:

Obtena.7952:

Aeolus.3615:

but if this game tends to get more like a korean/chinese mmo means game is being fixed!

based on?

Not being based on anything just stating my opinion, i am a casual player and i always prefered the “asiatic” machanics of mmo’s, i cant imagine chinese players being attracted by the dps blob fest on random overflow system playing with randoms while game was supposed to be divided trough servers (wich atm is how i see this game).

• Based on? * if i had to choose a game?
  One of the last games i tryed, as Ragnorok online (was on KRo and EuRo betas, and played for several years )
  -Game had huge quest lines do craft exclusive weapon (i imagined precursors would work on this way ).
  -Castles superior design on War of Emperium had several tactical places, inner paths, siege, and reward for holding the keep, and Archers/Snipers worked great lol"
  -No overflow systems :P
  -The game is still alive.

it’s also boring, generic, ugly, has a horrible battle system…..and i can go on.
and yes, i have played the game.

Indeed, thats where gw2 excells combat is pretty good compared with others but lacks on verything else.

We are still yet to experiment a good mmorpg.

actually the battle system of GW2 is horrible too, it uses the targeting system of a dynamic battle system but has a static battle system made for a static targeting system.
a good system would be something like ESO or DCUO, granted that the targeting system needs to fit them better but it’s still better then the mishap we have to deal with here in GW2.

ahahahaha.

A good system would not be ESO or DCUO. ESO especially has a horrible terrible worthless combat system, the fact that you are talking about it invalidates your opinion on good combat but I suppose there is nothign wrong with having bad taste in life. DCUO is kinda nice but still spamming and based on rock paper scissors.

A good combat system would be a game that takes TERA targeting system and combines it with Blade and soul or possibly gw2 but make it more deliberate and remove animation immunity.

bad taste doesn’t exist, only bad judgment.
i based the ESO part with what i like about skyrim but since skyrim isn’t an MMO i needed the next best thing, tera is BTW a system i deliberately avoided because it’s quite boring and stale, not to mention slow.

i know a battle system that could work but it needs quite some tweaking around to make it fast paced, the battle system raiderZ uses.
there you can fight within fun control of your character and not be totally depending on skills, you can use your movement buttons to decide how you attack and even use skills to combine with normal attacks.

when the game was just released i always assumed that commander was a transmorph tonic to change in the april fools commander, when i found out it’s just an overly expensive tag i dismissed it immediately.
it’s a blue arrow on the map, there is nothing special about that.
if it was only gained when you did every world boss at least 5X i could understand that you earned it but 100G is for some ppl a day’s walk….even less for the hardcore farmers.

as long as it’s not a one piece outfit i am game

Aeolus.3615:

sorudo.9054:

Aeolus.3615:

Obtena.7952:

Aeolus.3615:

but if this game tends to get more like a korean/chinese mmo means game is being fixed!

based on?

Not being based on anything just stating my opinion, i am a casual player and i always prefered the “asiatic” machanics of mmo’s, i cant imagine chinese players being attracted by the dps blob fest on random overflow system playing with randoms while game was supposed to be divided trough servers (wich atm is how i see this game).

• Based on? * if i had to choose a game?
  One of the last games i tryed, as Ragnorok online (was on KRo and EuRo betas, and played for several years )
  -Game had huge quest lines do craft exclusive weapon (i imagined precursors would work on this way ).
  -Castles superior design on War of Emperium had several tactical places, inner paths, siege, and reward for holding the keep, and Archers/Snipers worked great lol"
  -No overflow systems :P
  -The game is still alive.

it’s also boring, generic, ugly, has a horrible battle system…..and i can go on.
and yes, i have played the game.

Indeed, thats where gw2 excells combat is pretty good compared with others but lacks on verything else.

We are still yet to experiment a good mmorpg.

actually the battle system of GW2 is horrible too, it uses the targeting system of a dynamic battle system but has a static battle system made for a static targeting system.
a good system would be something like ESO or DCUO, granted that the targeting system needs to fit them better but it’s still better then the mishap we have to deal with here in GW2.

i really don’t want a level cap increase, it pretty much makes the grind that much worse……

a lower price on self-style hair kit, it should be 100gems max.
all you can do is change hair and beard styles, that’s hardly worth 250 gems.

Aeolus.3615:

Obtena.7952:

Aeolus.3615:

but if this game tends to get more like a korean/chinese mmo means game is being fixed!

based on?

Not being based on anything just stating my opinion, i am a casual player and i always prefered the “asiatic” machanics of mmo’s, i cant imagine chinese players being attracted by the dps blob fest on random overflow system playing with randoms while game was supposed to be divided trough servers (wich atm is how i see this game).

• Based on? * if i had to choose a game?
  One of the last games i tryed, as Ragnorok online (was on KRo and EuRo betas, and played for several years )
  -Game had huge quest lines do craft exclusive weapon (i imagined precursors would work on this way ).
  -Castles superior design on War of Emperium had several tactical places, inner paths, siege, and reward for holding the keep, and Archers/Snipers worked great lol"
  -No overflow systems :P
  -The game is still alive.

it’s also boring, generic, ugly, has a horrible battle system…..and i can go on.
and yes, i have played the game.

i never craft ascended stuff because i don’t see that as a way to enjoy the game, it’s an extra for the ones who do but there are plenty of ppl who simply want to sell the mats.
getting gold in a casual way is hard enough, now with Anet’s policy to make even more gold sink it’s only getting harder.

let us sell the mats, ppl who want it don’t sell it anyway and the ones who don’t simply don’t care.

i see no problems, beside some server hick-ups and some disconnections it doesn’t effect anything i like, really don’t see what all the fuss is all about.

male humans just need more old faces and male norn less scarred, that’s what makes the choice so problematic.
then again, one thing i find off-putting is the voice of the female human, it will always sound way to adult so making a young girl of 19 years old ruins it all.

Romo.3709:

Valento.9852:

^We’re not ArenaNet devs’ bosses.

In a way we are as a collective. We pay their bills and write their checks every week by supporting their game.

unless you’re buying gems with real money, not really…..

CharrGirl.7896:

No. No no and no. Immersion breaker at it’s best.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

immersion in GW2, are we playing the same game?

wizard hat, please…..i really need it, i made a male elementalist with the longest beard a human has just for the hat.
i want a wizard and a proper one at that >_<

there is a saying among the customize players “we can life with clipping, we can’t with restrictions”
clipping is quite minor as an issue as long as it’s not to horrible, it’s the “no” answer that makes things really frustrating.

be glad if they ever add the already existing ones, no point in adding stuff if we can’t even use the existing town clothing……let alone as armor skin.

i would not obsess to much on hairs if i were you, they constantly add hair packs in the game but never add them the proper way.
also, i rather see some beards first, the biggest beard you can get as a human is a short face beard.

i kinda am in the same boat, i have arachnophobia and at times avoid spiders in skyrim.
however, the spiders in GW2 are hardly something i fear, if the spider would fill the screen in size maybe but i really can’t get scared of the ones in GW2.

all useless solutions, the solution is both time and cycling trough tabs.
the store doesn’t load at time for me but i know how to solve it, just go to your sell tab and wait till it’s there, when it’s loaded go to the buy tab and wait again.
when the buy tab is loaded just use the gem tab and wait till it’s loaded, it’s as simple as that.

it works for me and it never ever failed.

SkyShroud.2865:

I support the “more cleavage”. Everything else simply means more changes to the game, more balancing issues, more complains, more confusions, more rage quitters.

Also, do try to note that guild wars 2 WAS designed to be casual-friendly and not targetting to waste players’ time too much to the point that casual players (people who play limited hours) have difficulties accessing all other contents due to restrictions on skills and traits.

what, like all the living story, special events and monthlies, yah really casual friendly…..

now i think of it, we’re complaining that cantha is’t possible but we are forgetting the next best option, elona.

• 1. there is a town in divinity’s reach made in the elonian style.
• 2. there is absolutely no conflict about elonian architecture.
• 3. it’s a part of tytia’s land.
• 4. the north part is the crystal desert.

Kurppa.9473:

Just lol, ppl on this thread are like straight from kindergartens lunch break.
“Nooooooooo, I dunt wanna eat veggies cuz i dunt like ´em!”
It doesnt kill you if you pop into pvp to do few rounds.

it doesn’t kill you to have more information about difference in playstyle, it might prevents you from making such ridicules notions.

it’s better then being bugged with overflows……..

what about the vendor in LA that doesn’t work, maybe they did add it but it bugged out.

5 for each?
i rather have a choice of 10 each, even if it blocks the rest when you completed 10 dailies it’s better then what we have now.
for one, when there are only 5 PvE dailies and 2 of them are champion slayer and dungeon runner it means it’s a no go for that day, the previous one was mildly tolerable because i had about 8 to choose from and 3 PvP ones.

sundown.5974:

should there be more way to get transmutaion charge charge in game than there is now ?
you get around 33 for world completion one for each map
and 2 daily for pvp reward if you like doing pvp.

Because the game is skin base and a new player at one point will to get need transmutation charge if they to make their character look the way they want. We all know you can take in game gold and get gem but for 9g plus better off dropping real world money on it.
I have no problem dropping money on the gem store but when a key part of the game is behind the gem store get into the area of play to have fun or play to play..

maybe make them part of the daily and monthly reward idk or some way to get a like you do in pvp in pve

it is in the dailies, but it’s a chance thing….sadly

it happened to me yesterday when i was almost done with my PS stage, why a singleplayer instance needs constant Internet is already a mystery……

lvl 24

/15char

RashanDale.3609:

probably just removed, i think.

why not just get them in eternal battlegrounds or with the help of a friend?

i hate PvP and i have no in-game friends, so no.

i wanted to charm the armor fish since i just found out i don’t have it yet, my char is to low level to take an alternative location (and all of them are well above lvl 45) so the LA location is the only one i can go to.
however, when i came to my usual place there were no armor fishes anymore, are they removed or is this an unintended bug?

would’ve bin better if skin and stats were not connected, when transmuting a skin i would love to keep the skin even when i change my armor.

God Of Mustard.6354:

pdavis.8031:

sorudo.9054:

my issue isn’t anything pointed at zergers, if you want to focus on speed rather then fun then be my guess.
my issue is how ppl tread non-zergers, they are seen as useless junk under the excuse that they should not be there and simply don’t belong.
sure, there are “some” groups who play for fun but be honest, how many are actually playing for fun?

if ppl just keep their foul remarks to them self then finding a group isn’t so bothersome, the game is there to have fun and relax and that’s exactly what i am planning to do.

+100

I totally agree. Although it’s not so bad in game, it’s worse in the forums. Zerkers, typically, only care about DPS and themselves. Nothing else matters to them. Because to them DPS = money, and that is the whole of the game. Period. I tried to have a discussion as to why another build wasn’t viable, but no one wanted to hear it.

And to those who think that non-zerkers are only “pretending” to tank, do damage, whatever, and are not actually doing anything, really just need to get over yourselves and stop whining about how someone else plays. Because yes we are doing damage, yes we are using healing, and keeping people in the fight a little longer, among other things. There is no emote for swinging your weapon uselessly, or activing a skill etc.

A group of non zerkers can do a dungeon just as well as a zerker group. And guess what? The result is the same! Mobs die, boss gets killed, people get loot.

If you don’t want to be efficient, or run with people who are not “elitists”…then don’t run with us. If you don’t wana deal with us, then don’t join parties labeled “zerk” or “5k + AP” or “zerk, ping gear on join”.

it’s also the other way around, when i tried to make a team i had 2 ppl who wanted to do the same this as i want, take the time to enjoy the dungeon.
then a zerger joined and demanded a gear ping, when we refused he flat out offended the three of us.

you might talk like that but zergers are actually worse, they are searching for ppl to go fast or go offensive to other players.
a game is made to enjoy to free time that we have, they are the ones who are out there to ruin the fun and ruin the mood of non-zergers.

i have a question, how is it a problem when someone walks around in a school uniform but it’s totally ok when a zerg ruins someone’s enjoyment of the game?
i mean, the zerg is there and nether you or i can do anything about it regardless on how much it hurts the game but a school uniform is just an outfit for the character, zergers don’t want others to dictate how they play but for some reason it’s an outrage when someone walks around in an outfit the player likes him/her self.

what happened to freedom of independence?