Guild Wars 2

I really enjoy 0/20/30/20/0 for roaming and Wv3 in general. PVT armor, zerker on everything else.

1: What mode do you prefer

mostly wv3 with a little pve

2: How long have you been a thieve?

a year and change

3: Compared to when you started, how long can you stay logged on to your thieve?

definitely shorter periods, less days per week, less hours on those days

4: If you started a thieve now, would it be as much fun as launch?

probably… yes, my decrease in game play could be somewhat attributed to some gw2 fatigue, but i also think that the thief gameplay is just a bit off. roaming is ok, but can be boring. havoc is good. zerging is hit or miss. but we’re kind of one trick ponies in all of those situations.

5 : Do you Agree with direction of the balance team?

not really, they haven’t been really listening to feedback. while i appreciate that balancing is needed i don’t feel our class has been balanced properly in that we’ve received more nerfs without anything to really compensate for them.

Other relevant information: anything you think is relevant to your answers

i really wish the devs would take some time to show us what their intention is for the class and provide better feedback. i tried to get that going a while ago…

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Dev-Request-Show-us-how-you-play/

Interceptor.2653:

I’d like to see an army of condi-spec D/D Venomshare Thieves, back-flipping for justice.

Almost did that… was running havoc with my guild, we were all thieves and I was running venomshare.

It was pretty sweet.

0/20/30/20/0 with PVT armor and zerker everything else. DD + SB

I roam quite a bit, go havoc, and zerg occasionally.

Heal using Withdrawl, BP, ShS, and SR as utilities.

Swap between BV and Daggerstrom for elite.

Agriope.4523:

Yeah, I mean, who would want to stay on a server that tries to bully small man roaming groups to join together to form MEGA WVW ZERG GUILD for the “good of the server”? Why not go to a server (Borlis) that actually appreciates coordinated guild roaming groups, understands what they are capable of, and has a pretty fine community?

Good riddance, indeed!

Ah yes… the community and alliance debacle. IMHO no one really cares, like I said most of us just get on whatever TS is being spammed at the moment. Roamers, havoc groups, good and bad COs, still exist just fine.

But I’m sorry you got your feelings hurt.

Thorp.7982:

stinkypants.8419:

So glad you guys left. Good riddance.

We’re so glad we left too!

Probably cramped your style; I know you guys would rather use siege and PvD than actually kill people. Did you guys settle on a TS or is the “community” still a joke?

It’s all a joke, I’ve always played for the lulz. PUGs (myself included ) on CD get on whatever TS is being spammed in /m at the moment.

We all PvD, none of these servers have enough not to if you want to get your kitten back so don’t act like it doesn’t happen on BP.

Thorp.7982:

There’s always some scrub hater. Coming from CD, I’m sure you would have ran first. That’s the main reason we left CD — the “run first, fight later” attitude. The only decent guilds on that server were [FKVA] and [NA], the rest of you are as good as ogre or dredge mercenaries.

So glad you guys left. Good riddance.

Very nice Woaden. That 30 in Trickery is quite interesting…

Make it increase the range as opposed to a damage increase.

Where do you get your damage from in a 30 acro build… what is your build?

much QQ. wow. thief forum for your tears is elsewhere.

Yes. I only HS as a gap closer and when you’re under 25%.

So I use SB in Wv3… a lot, harassing around the edges of fights looking for the CnD > steal > BS. If I had to make a build around SB specifically, it would probably look something like this – http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYUQFAVkYmUIbKqwdiThFeU6Hkp+DXFA-w (traited only).

The thing about this, is that this build really isn’t that great taking into account other traits, and isn’t strong for any “offhand” weaponset. It’s not horrible I guess, but I wouldn’t want it… and when you can build/optimize around a different weaponset and have pretty much this for SB there’s no reason to do a SB build.

For changes, I’d suggest the 5% damage to a 300 range increase. IMHO that would be enough, full stop… at least for me.

I think increasing the firing speed would be just swell, it’s not horrible mind you… but it does feel kind of slow.

The 1200 > 900 CB nerf, that was a straight up nerf. The devs thought the range was too much. I disagree, but whatever…

Anyway… thanks for this thread, it’s a good discussion to have. SB is far more utilitarian than any other weaponset we have, but it could you some TLC.

aLovedhater – don’t get me wrong… i’d try this build in a heartbeat, but I found this thread right after i purchased all the new gear…

and they don’t have dire in wv3 stores…

i’m a cheap kitten.

excuses excuses… i know…

phaeris.7604:

Might pull out the old condi armour and give it a run though.

I’m running full carrion with DD/SB with 30/0/30/10/0 and it’s done nicely. Just swap out venoms/utilities and and a couple of traits as needed… roaming or zerging.

Poison from daggers, Lotus Poison for weakness, bleeds from deathblossom… also have perplexity runes… so I have that going for me, which is nice.

This thread delivers.

A++++ would PvF again.

Bumping this for the new week! Huzzah!

Running with the zerg in Wv3 -

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYUQNAoYVnkEFaapJunwfaig7hTh6T1ecTbGzuCXF-j0CBoLCisCCipQFRjtVoIas6FYqSoKXCRaXwmzDR2bA1jADA-w

Havoc/roaming in Wv3 -

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYUQNAoYVlYmiPHdy9E+5EB3Dna0mq9gmtEmdFuKA-j0CBoLCisCCipQFRjtVoIas6FYqSoKXCRaXwmzDR2bA1jADA-w

Can we get back to the questions please?

Travlane.5948:

there is a VERY strong power/crit condition time build using pistols and p/d …..its a non condition build but runs high direct dmg and high condition time.

curious to see a build for that… ???

I don’t think there is a current meta… we’re all just kinda floating around aimlessly. Maybe PD?

I’m trying venom share… but will probably go back to my 0/20/30/20/0 DD build unless I find a way to make the VS work really well.

Incurafy.6329:

Actually, Instinctual Response is fine, it’s Last Refuge that people complain about because it’s a 5 point minor trait that you don’t have the option to take, it’s mandatory if you put any points into Shadow Arts.

Yeah… that’s what I meant

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Last_Refuge

I think this is a reasonable request, and I’m not trying to troll… genuinely curious how the Devs for this class play and test.

Show us your videos of PvP, WvW, and PvE. Tell us why you designed the traits the way you did, explain how you work on balancing.

I encourage others to post questions below on specific balance or gameplay issues.

I’ll get the ball rolling with a few of my own.

It’s pretty clear no one really likes Hard to Catch – http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Hard_to_Catch – why was it designed this way?

Instinctual Response – http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Instinctual_Response – It’s a pretty common complaint that this often gets one killed due to the revealead debuff, it really ‘feels’ like it shouldn’t cause this debuff but does, so what’s going on with this one?

Please be nice folks, don’t rant, try to ask specific questions… hopefully we can get some attention.

Lastly, thank you Anet, I do enjoy the game, and will continue to play… just looking for some answers.

Venoms should just be a shareable buff, shouldn’t have to trait 30 in SA to get it.

There, fixed.

nononono 0/10/30/30/0 !!!

we’re supposed to be tanky now! amirite?

New fotm build – 0/10/30/30/0

Now that I see this, I am truly sad.

So you mean, I could like, attack the air and get healed?

That’s OP.

The only thing that would make this good is that if you have this equipped it makes your blood venomous and when you take damage and bleed all over the enemy in your death throes they get some on them and die also.

The end.

TH13F4LYFYOLO420SWAG11!!111!!1112@!!222

This is a cool build, venoms don’t get enough love! I ran something similar with DD and would retrait depending on what was going on. That said, I like how this is a dedicated condition build, no holds barred, venoms ubber alles, kind of thing

The reason I went DD is that I find it’s hard to get folks downed quick enough with PD… so my question is… how is single target DPS? What do you do when you find you need to get the kill ASAP?

Thanks for the replies folks… anyone else? aka bumpalicious.

For some reason I want to say that you don’t need 2 sigils of bloodlust… that it continues to work on weaponswap… but don’t quote me on that

I haven’t really used the nourishments before because I’m a cheap kitten… but after getting facerolflolstomp’n’rolled in enemy BLs a few times this past week I began to ponder, like… am I gimping myself? (yes.)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Nourishment – for reference

I’m a 0/20/30/20/0 DD/SB thief, so bonus interweb high fives for you if you have suggestions specific to that sauce, but in general…

Which do you use?

What is best for which build?

What is the best all-around?

Which ones are the most cost-effective?

You folks are all special snowflakes, and thanks in advance!

Nice to see the venom share build getting some love. Do you have a link to your build whisperbox?

Why is that every time I get some small scale action with BP, SBI comes through and steamrolls the lot of us?

Maaaan, funk dat!

Heh, don’t care if it’s fun just want to be able to crank some gold without having to group with others… maybe get a little world completion on the side.

#bump

Are there any good places for thieves in particular to solo farm? I’m not interested in following a zerg around and doing events and champs or what have you… just some mindless grinding for cash and prizes.

Thanks.

Good grief… the discussion here is bad. I need to retrait to 30/30/30/30/30 so I can pull all this stuff.

Anyone use this for Wv3? Any changes? Thinking about giving it a shot…

hahahahaha oh you <3 CD!

What gives? I’m at work and need more chest thumping and PvF!

Give us back our Feramoan!

hell yeah! 15char

Don’t forget Temple Armor that you can buy with Karma. My PVT set is mostly that stuff…

insanemaniac.2456:

i truly feel more useful roaming as opposed to zergling-ing.

its unfortunate that being a zergling gets me better rewards. a zerg can flip a tower in the time it takes me to solo a camp… for double to triple the reward (including the sentry nearby, and the camp the zerg sends 5-10 people to while theyre ramming).

Yup! I enjoy roaming, but to get the loot and the dailies done easily you got to roll with the zerg a bit. I just usually try to break up my session 50/50 when I can.

Aeros.2046:

Yep, great fights all around. Was a good match up. If CD has shown anything, its the power of having a persistent 24 hour WvW presence.

Wait… what??? This is news to me. I guess this just illustrates the difference in the tiers. When we get matched up with T2 (sometimes T3) it seems quite the opposite.

Enjoyed the vid, been thinking about P/P as offhand for Wv3 instead of SB for a while but can’t bring myself to do it. Definitely would like to see your build/armor/etc.

Evalana.5480:

Interesting little south camp scuffle we had there. We had 4-5 and you each had 3-4… and focused us – it was cute. I actually lol’d. It took you guys a long time to kill us

What? You’re chest thumping over a smaller group taking a long time to kill you?

Pincers happen in T4.