Guild Wars 2

In order to cap the red keep, you need to:

- Kill the main grawl champion, which first requires you to;

- Kill two “elite” earth elementals, who have the buff;

- “Solid State”, which gives the elementals 90% damage reduction and permanent reflect missiles. The only way to remove this buff is to:

- Separate the 2 elementals (Like AC dungeon story mode Ralena/Vassar), but both are;

- Immune to CC’s, so you can’t spread them, hence they are always next to eachother, hence are always reflecting projectiles, and 90% damage resistant.

- The enemy then endlessly respawns and eventually wipes you due to the cap taking 5-10 minutes to kill the AI champions.

What does the Blue Keep get?

Throws Fire Bombs • Creates Turrets

What does the Green Keep get?

Knocks Down • Falling Ice • Regenerates Health • Chills on Hit • Removes Conditions on Disable

The Blue and Green Keeps are ridiculously easy to cap, while the Red Keep is next to impossible to cap.

How was this even overlooked in the Beta? Wooooooooooooooooow.

If you actually want to farm them and not buy a single one:

Farm monsters in WvW, and trade laurels in for T6 mats.

WvW doesn’t suffer from diminishing returns in drop rates, and everything is level 80.

Of course the TP is much faster.

Fenrir.3609:

Good lord people really will cry about anything. It’s not difficult, just get on with it without moaning all the time.

It really is starting to look like casual mmos have the most self entitled and down right worst communities within the genre.

“I want this but don’t want to have to do that, this, or that over there to actually get it”.

“Make legendaries “legendary”, oh but you can’t make me do stuff out of my comfort zone, it’s sooo unfair!".

“I don’t like how they are playing over there, nerf them and their content!”.

“I want to play my own special snowflake way and that way should also always be the most optimal/fastest way, so nerf all those nasty min/max speedrunners!”.

“Nerf the TP, some people are making more gold than me!”.

“Oooh a game advertised as having active combat and no trinity! Change everything and add a trinity in so I can facetank, it’s not fair I have to move out of the way of getting hit”.

TL:DR – Yes I mad.

It is quite sad isn’t (it). (god I hate the filter)

And they also don’t display any kind of knowledge that WvW players have to pve for a legendary, whilst pvers are on the easier end.

- You need to do exploration in WvW anyway. Which will get you some ranks.
- You can buy ranks with laurels.
- You get badges of honor from AP chests now.

Rank 30 can be attained in a week of casual play.

Someone said ‘this is bad for new players’. Yeah because new players will be getting a legendary any time soon /logic.

Wvw players don’t complain about needing to grind pve for money/materials, or being required to do dungeons, so why do pve players complain about having to do something so easy and buy to win?

Lions Arch has personal story quests inside it:
- The starting location (green marker)
- Some personal stories take place inside Lions Arch, they’d have to remake the personal stories.

Hence Lions Arch will not be destroyed in any large scale or meaningful way.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

KOPPER.1458:

You should look under the LS tab in achievements.

Oh Kopper, now you have gone and done it! You are using facts and logic.
That’s not nice. ;-)

Facts? Logic?

That was the complete opposite my friend. It’s ok we can only learn from our mistakes.

KOPPER.1458:

You should look under the LS tab in achievements.

That doesn’t make it a pve achievement.

Season 1 achievements were also under there.

Achievements attainable inside a pvp game mode, makes it a pvp achievement.

Your argument is invalid.

Next?

jsduke.6537:

Source here:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-February-4-2014/first#post3591492

Last item under the World vs. World section.

Will Wheaton’s Law. I’m just saying

And so it is.

Rank 30 isn’t hard to get anyway, and considering you can buy WvW ranks with laurels, meaning you don’t have to do any real wvw, just buy to win.

Oh, and remember this. WvW players need to do CRAP LOADS of pve to make a legendary, so don’t play the victim, especially when pve players have the easy side. But of course, wvw players don’t complain about having to do pve

I don’t know who Will Wheaton is, and frankly don’t care, haven’t heard this ‘law’ before, so I’m going to attribute it to some pop culture nonsense and not bother looking it up.

jsduke.6537:

I’m a PvE player.

The other issue for PvE players like me is the quality of the WvW community. Looking through the posts in this thread, most of the pro-WvW comments are rude and disrespectful at best, and many of them are outright hostile. That’s not the kind of community I want to play with, and it’s another big reason why I don’t enjoy WvW. It’s not an issue that is exclusive to WvW, but the competitive nature of the content seems to bring out the worst in people.

But it is fine for PVE players to spam threads bashing Pvp modes? Wvw players don’t do this about pve.

Pve players creating threads bashing Pvp modes because they have to go there for a Pvp achievement? THESE ARE NOT PVE ACHIVEMENTS IN THIS UPDATE. Wvw don’t do this about pve.

Yeah, the wvw players are the problem. Hahahahahahahahahaha

The wvw players, who are trying to make pve only players open minded about game options and fun, are the bad guys?

Wow. You blew my mind.

thaooo.5320:

This isn’t a pve release with pve achievements.

You don’t want to Pvp for Pvp achievements?

Then don’t do join the Pvp map.

It is THAT SIMPLE.

This isn’t a pve release with pve achievements.

Also, calling people griefers, who might have just killed you because you are a nearby enemy is highly insulting and frankly offensive to the entire population, both pve and Pvp.

Just because someone kills you in a Pvp mode doesn’t make them a griefer. So much selfishness, wow.

Stormcrow.7513:

This, and the fact that you now need to be lvl30 wvw rank in order to craft a legendary weapon. I think alot more people will be moving on to new games.

Fact? Please provide a picture or source that shows you need specifically rank 30 as a requirement for legendaries. I personally can’t find it.

I also have 4 world completions and have never encountered this problem you describe.

Source please.

……. No?

Kentaine.4692:

PvEers complain because in every… single… game where PvP is crossed over with PvE in any way the minority of jerks who PvP harass the majority of PvEers.

We hate it, and those bullies- which is all they are in every sense of the juvenile term- drive us away from games which should have other wise been a release from real life stresses.

As it is now, this event grants way too many opportunities for the kitten PvPers to harass PvEers just because they can.

People are fighting enemy players inside a PvP zone? Whodathunkit.

You’re calling people who may or may not be a PvP oriented player, who may or may not have killed someone, who may or may not be a PVE only player, a bully? That’s highly insulting and borders on bullying itself.

You do realize that there is no “PVE Player” flag on your head when you enter? Someone who sees you and attacks you has no idea if you’re a casual or not. But you proceed to call them a bully.

The person who attacked this ‘maybe pve player’ might be a pve player themselves.

As for people who might kill you near an objective, you call them bullies and griefers? Obsidian Sanctum JP was always a place for people to camp and hinder the enemy server, long before the kite chest pve no loot thing. The person who kills you near this ‘objective’ might be a pve player who’s doing some PvP, hindering the enemy server as the mode dictates.

Deliberately helping the enemy in a PvP mode is a violation of the game modes rules.

Any place that guarantees frequent fights will always attract more people to look for fights there.

I hope this clears things up for you, instead of not caring about other players and how other players play the game.

Healix.5819:

I know a player who is anti-PvP because once she steps foot inside a PvP area, she basically has anxiety issues. She once said it affects her breathing, but I don’t know more than that. I once got her to play arenas in WoW a long time ago, which I think was her first actual PvP experience, but she only lasted around 10 games before quitting and saying she never wanted to do it again. We won a lot of the games even though we were severely undergeared (imagine blues vs exotics).

After finding out that world completion required PvP, she simply stopped logging in and hasn’t since then. She never asked for a refund or complained, she just uninstalled and walked away. She now saw the game as a PvP game and assumed that PvP would be forced on her in the future. For the record, she didn’t care about legendaries, she just wanted to explore the world.

Games seem to be forcing PvP more and more now, whereas it used to be clearly separated, like how PvE and PvP servers are. Even WoW is trying to force it.

There is only one game in existence where the PvP made you almost crap your pants even when there were only AI enemies around, and may have even accentuated anxiety problems.

Love it or hate it, that game was Runescape BACK IN THE DAY (2001 up until the Wilderness got nerfed from a PvP area into another PVE area, cause casuals)

Where dying in the Wilderness would cost you all but 3 held items, or all held items if you had chosen to attack someone recently. Just wandering around would get your heart racing, let alone seeing another player and quickly checking their level/visible equipment, or if a fight went down.

The PvP had consequences, every other game with PvP technically has no risk, you respawn and go again. Experiencing anxiety in a game where the PvP has literally 0 risk makes no sense to me.

The only other game with real PvP consequences is Diablo 2 Hardcore characters (Death = death, character is gone forever).

Other games don’t experience the amount of both connection lag and skill lag that GW2 servers display on a daily basis, I can honestly say I’ve never seen worse.

Imagine these GW2 servers trying to handle larger map populations? Meltdown.

Sad Tas.2509:

you can forget about a balanced tier 2, FA is dying or dead already

Blame TC for constantly karma training FA borderland, TC go for the easy PvD points, SOS push TC borderland.

Also SOS and FA are playing EOTM. TC are PvDooring the original maps, just have a look at gw2score.com

Viking Jorun.5413:

Why are the Aetherblades helping fighters of the Mists? I thought they were the bad guys.

Because Anet are planning on turning scarlet and her cronies into “good guys”. It has already been decided. And this is going to kitten off every single player to an unlimited end. They couldn’t have made a worse decision.

Sounds like a tonne of work if they were ever to do this I’d expect a 2017 release.

Will be checking it out, but already wary of the consequences it’s going to have on the main maps.

Not that I care about PPT of course, just figure the maps are going to be dead or even more karmatrainy (Aside from Stack Gate and Stacked Quarry)

Why bad players prefer condi bunkers: because “fire and forget” builds/skills play the game for you, so you can feel great while not actually playing.

Satan Blaze.8237:

we arent warriors who can dish out tons of damage with tons of armor and tons of hp huh

Nope, but unlike warriors, thieves have permanent stealth, permanent evasions, and perma vigor dodges. Which counts as effective hit points. But of course that flew over your head being an advanced skill level and all.

Channeled skills like Volley and Rapid Fire follow stealth and hit them, stomp should be exactly the same as long as the downed target in still within range.

And to the people defending this hilariously broken stomp system that favours thieves:
Unless you’re in FULL BERSERKER, shadow refuge + player revive = automatic rally. Attacking with anything less than full berserker gets mitigated by the insane healing given by Shadow Refuge + Shadows Protector + Shadows Rejuvenation.

Don’t pretend it isn’t laughably broken, you’re not fooling anyone.

Ezmode stealth spam is definitely out of control, then again I kill every thief I come across. Relying on invisibility says a lot about a players skill level.

The real problem is dumbfire and PU mesmer.

lordkrall.7241:

Because it was being discussed quite a bit before it was announced/released and those discussions were about character progression, and clearly people didn’t seem to have an issue with it being character bound back then

Yeah, that’s you know, most likely because, you know, no one knew anything about how it was going to work, what it was going to do, and how it was going to be implemented, but yeah, you know, ok, righto.

Offair.2563:

I’d like to ask you to come to Gunnars Hold and see this blob server we have in match up using this exploit to the fullest, see if you still say its not game breaking, this issue should be hotfixed right away and not on 4feb.

Well while waiting for feb 4th, if they’re running that many necros, just get your hammer train to steam roll them, the necros will drop in a matter of seconds due to poor team composition.

Free loot bags!

lordkrall.7241:

I never heard anyone complain about lack of Account-bound WvW ranks before the added WvW ranks

How does one complain about a non existent variable inside a fictional idea that did not exist in the game yet?

Complainception.

If you’re going to argue pointless points, at least make the points pointy for pointification.

Sabastian.7126:

lordkrall.7241:

Sabastian.7126:

they announced it on November 27. Account bound WvW ranks coming “soon”

its been over 2 months

During which time they have focused mainly on Edge of the Mists. Which they already knew back than had a very set release date (February 4th) which meant they had to put as much resources as possibly into it in order to make sure it hits its deadline.

While Account Bound ranks is nice and something I am looking forward to, it is a rather low priority issue, and more pressing matters should and will take priority over it.

no its not a low priority issue. IT IS ONE OF THE MOST PRESSING MATTERS IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW.

ASK ANY serious WVWer and they will answer that ACCOUNT BOUND WVW RANKS SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE GAME SINCE DAY 1

EDGE OF THE MISTS IS A LOW PRIORTY ISSUE

NOBODY ASKED FOR IT. WHY DID ARENA NET WASTE ALL THEIR RESOURCES ON SUCH A USELESS THING.

YES MAD

^ This.

We are furious.
We are salty.
10/10 mad.
Covered in mud.

It’s funny because once this sub par and “abused-in-EU-only” signet gets nerfed, no one is going to carry it, anywhere, anytime, any build, ever.

Congrats on making a terrible skill even worse :p

Vuh.1328:

I ….. lost interest as soon as healing signet got introduced ….. doubled the zerker stance duration, felt ….. balanced before that patch.

Now I know you have no experience with the class and are just a Q_Qer. Thank you.

If you played warrior at the start of this game you’d know they got pooped on. 4 sec zerk stance with 60 sec recharge was so far from any kind of use, 8 sec is almost in the right spot.

Healing signet was always in the game, it was just even worse than it is now, before it got fixed, not only was it super susceptible to burst/gank damage, but it wasn’t even able to work as a sustain versus bunkerbaby. It is still susceptible to burst/gank damage, but now it destroys bunkerbabys.

Please don’t cry nerf for things that don’t need fixing.

#Getgood

Vuh.1328:

If just warriors stood and face tanked all damage all day without using their utilities and just auto attacks it would be balanced.

now lets see classes with cast time on heals for example:
Example:
Takes 10,000 damage in 2 seconds.
Tires to heal but get interrupted and have healed for nothing.
Takes another 4000 damage in 2 seconds.
Heal has healed for nothing and tries to heal again but died.
While the warrior has healed for 2kish

Automatically assuming the heal was interrupted? Lol cute. If you’re automatically assuming 100% of heals are interrupted then you need to learn how to play your class ie blocks blinds evades invulnerability so on so forth.

Non warrior class has access to any combination of the following: blind, block, aegis, evade, perma vigor, perma regeneration, stealth, clones, self water blasting. Use them properly.

Sad L2P issue.

isolatedchimp.2510:

thaooo.5320:

If you can’t deal more than 1500 damage per second, you are playing some super sad max bunker build, don’t blame the signet because you refuse to improve at the game. Healing Signet only heals 380-400 hp, if you can’t out dps that….. lol.

What kind of “logic” is this? Every other class heal is weaker than HS and requires active use while HS is passive. Pretty much any other heal has a lower HPS than HS. So where does your argument that “You can’t out DPS HS? Lol!” fit in then?

Think about all of the other mechanics in the game, that exist on the other classes, which supplement hp with something called “Effective Hit Points”, and notice how the warriors lacks them. I know we’re talking about advanced level player skill here but please try to understand.

Please stop crying nerf for things that are not broken, there are bigger issues in the game.

Bring more DPS, healing signet takes 15 seconds to restore ~5775 HP, if you deal at least 1500 per second, thats 22500-5775=16725 in that 15 seconds before any dodges and whatever else. Healing Signet is a slow and sustained healing, not a burst heal, just dps right through it. That is with just 1 person, bring a 2nd person and the warrior will either be dead, or almost dead, in those 15 seconds.

PLOX understand. Stop playing full bunker, healing signet punishes bunkerboredom. The issue isn’t healing signet, its “Learn to play”.

Example:
Warrior takes 10,000 damage in 2 seconds.
His heal has only healed him for 760-800.
Warrior takes another 4000 damage in 2 seconds.
His heal has only healed him for 760-800.

He can’t do anything because he lacks a burst heal, a burst heal would be able to heal most of that back. Healing Signet is ONLY good over time, and against bunkers. PLOX UNDERSTAND.

If you can’t deal more than 1500 damage per second, you are playing some super sad max bunker build, don’t blame the signet because you refuse to improve at the game. Healing Signet only heals 380-400 hp, if you can’t out dps that….. lol.

Every thief uses shadow refuge, should we nerf it? If they all carry it, it must be overpowered by your logic.

What about rangers troll Unguent?
And mesmers blink/clones?
What about engineers healing turret?
What about guardians altruistic healing?
And Necromancers signet of spite?
And elementalists ether renewal/mist form/lightning flash???

By your logic, the skills that are carried by every single person that plays that class must be overpowered, when can we expect those to get nerfed???

Oh right, because warriors don’t spam the forums complaining about other classes, just the other classes spam the forums complaining about warriors. Complain to win.

gitflap.9031:

So what you’re saying is that NA users are more “casual” about their cheating than EU users? You maybe take down a gate 10, 15, 20 percent faster with the exploit, so that’s alright then?

Well, I’m just glad there’s an ocean between us, bud. Coz your attitude stinks.

No. We simply don’t use the cheat, we play how we always have. Yet you have the courage to display some kind of twisted moral superiority while bad mouthing others, funny.

I literally forgot about the Necromancers signet heal until these new threads that just popped up now, and I’m certain the rest of NA forgot too.

They’re just saving it for a separate patch so it feels like WvW is getting attention.

1 update in 5 months, or 2 updates in 5 months, which one looks better?

aspirine.6852:

‘m not aggresive about it you are. Oh the NA does not care. So the skill must be ok. Well here in EU we think it’s a problem.

It is only a problem if you make it a problem. Stop playing dirty every chance you get.

aspirine.6852:

It’s a big deal, that you or your server doesnt understand it makes no difference.

Be as abusive and aggressive as you want (lol, sad), but it isn’t abused in NA and no one here even cares about it, or actively thinks about it. It is just one of those things in the background no one cares about.

Ps I never said it makes no difference, I simply said we don’t abuse it, or care for its existence, read word for word.

NA players have been using this since the new healing skills came out, and it has not been a problem here.

It’s not even a big deal, no one in NA goes out of their way to spam it. We don’t have necro blobs running around, we just play like we always have, if there happens to be a necro in your group then sure it might be used once or twice but it isn’t game breaking.

EU are last to learn of this, and first to abuse it, it seems. I seriously forgot all about this skill until reading these late-to-the-party EU threads. This ‘issue’ frankly ranks at the bottom of the list of things that need fixing in WvW.

If the enemy is running a bunch of necros just go out there and vaporize them with your hammer train, they won’t be able to defend themselves. Then throw ballista’s on their corpses.

We really just want account WXP to be honest…. sigh

NA players have been using this since the new healing skills came out, and it has not been a problem here.

It’s not even a big deal, no one in NA goes out of their way to spam it. We don’t have necro blobs running around, we just play like we always have, if there happens to be a necro in your group then sure it might be used once or twice but it isn’t game breaking.

EU are last to learn of this, and first to abuse it, it seems.

That’s funny because I’ve always thought the team with the most engi’s and necros wins.

Ignored all other mechanics/skills in the game that each class possesses.

Play more DPS and less bunker.

/Logic

A while ago we were having organised open field fights with a server in their borderland near north west sentry, they had more players + the spawn advantage, so eventually they won.

One of their server members was in our TS guild channel (He was friends with someone in our guild), I was one of only a few left, and he was yelling “COME HERE I MUST TAG YOU!” And I said, standing near the cliff, “Back of or I’ll jump, I SWEAR I’LL DO IT! DON’T COME ANY CLOSER. That’s it, you made me do this.” And jumped off the cliff before he could tag me. Good times.

Also been chased by 4 players, I was on full zerker warrior with fall damage trait. I walked off a cliff that left me on 60% hp, I stood there as they fell in front of me ending up on 20% hp and slaughtered all 4 of them instantly with 100 blades. Always a favourite.

And being killed by lag/glitch fall damage is hilariously silly.

If you jump down any distance that causes any kind of fall damage, and continue mashing jump as you move forward, you’ll keep taking fall damage until you die, even though there’s no possible way you should be taking fall damage.

This may only happen for players outside of America, I don’t know.

Buffy.9246:

As for T2 balance, SoS got 3 guilds that can basically que maps. I’ve fought them all and they are just blobs running around.

If it makes SoS NA comparable to TC/FA NA then there is no issue. TC’s SEA population is out of whack but you don’t see anyone complaining about it.

Thieves, because I love putting noobs in their place.

I use soldier armour with zerker weapons/trinkets for both roaming and zerging, changing my traits as necessary.

Depends if you just want to solo dive into the enemy to see how long you last / bait the pugs away from the main group, disrupt the zerg, or you’re playing in your own zerg.

But I would imagine something along these lines, tweaking as neccessary:

Ascended sentinel armour with either:
- Rune of Melandru for condition/stun reduction
- Rune of Svanir (Turns you into an invulnerable but immovable block of ice for 5 seconds when you reach 20% HP. Using a stun breaker allows you to move with the invulnerability)
- Rune of Vampirism (Mist form at 10% HP)

Ascended sentinel Greatsword / Sword-Shield with any of:
- Sigil of Energy
- Sigil of Momentum (Forgot about this PvE gem :p )
- Sigil of Renewal
- Sigil of Stamina
- Sigil of Conjuration/Sanctuary (But these are impossible to control, so meh)

Traits
30 points in Defense (Sure Footed, Last Stand, Defy Pain) (Dogged March instead of Sure Footed depending on what you’re trying to achieve)
20 points in Tactics (Mainly for the +200 vitality, Any + Shrug It Off)
20 points in Discipline (Warrior’s Sprint, Vigorous Focus)

Utilities
Heal: Defiant Stance (Chain it with your Endure Pains + Shield Stance + Runes of Svanir. Do not use this skill while any of the others are active)

1 – Endure Pain
2 & 3 – any of: Berserker Stance, Balanced Stance, Dolyak Signet or Bull’s Charge (For running from/baiting zerg)

Elite:
Take Root (Sylvari, 3 seconds of Invulnerability frames)
Become the Snow Leopard (Norn, able to hold down 4 to charge very far away)
Reaper of Grenth (Human, chill/poison the area around you, you can still use your weapon/utilities)
Signet of Rage (If nothing else)

Food, any of:
Bowl of Lemongrass Poultry Soup (-40% condition duration, 70 vitality)
Loaf of Saffron Bread (-20% damage while CC’d, -20% condition duration)
Bowl of Roasted Lotus Root (-40% stun duration, 70 toughness)
Mango Pie (85 HP/sec, 70 vitality)
Loaf of Omnomberry Bread (100 vitality, 70 toughness)
Omnomberry Cookie (100 healing power, 70 vitality)
Dragonfish Candy / Plate of Lemongrass Poultry (6% of toughness = vitality, +200 power under 50% HP)

That’s probably as tanky as you’re going to get, though kiting can itself count as tanking, if you get the enemy zerg to chase you but they can’t reach, so tweak runes/utilities/food as necessary.

Though learning to play in more of a DPS spec, with support skills like warhorn cleanse and shout heals will help your allies out, while dealing good damage, you’ll be more useful to your server, but is definitely harder to play/master.

“Elevation bonus.”

Part of the reason why I mained a ranger in GW1.

Obviously it is easier for the projectile to miss at longer ranges, but at least the mechanic was there, it makes games feel polished, where ranged classes actually have a chance to play as ranged classes. Combined with a few of the increased projectile speed preparations/attacks you could hit a bit more consistently.

I one shot a poor Luxon Assassin on the Grenz Frontier alliance battle map, from up on that reaaaaalllly high up bridge. It was almost impossible to ever hit anyone from up there, simply because if they change direction even slightly, you miss, and everyone always moves slightly.

Yet somehow I landed Keen Arrow on this Luxon, he took 500 something damage to the face and died, a pure 1 in a million shot.

GW2 is all about the melee face roll, just look at the stupid invulnerable mechanic that every AI target gets when you try use the environment in combat, or if you drag it too far (yep, I main a warrior now, ranger does not resemble its GW1 counterpart at all).

What is the point of making these vast and beautiful landscapes and environments, especially with the ability to climb it, if you can’t use it to your advantage by being a SMART player. Pretty sad really.

There’s a certain exotic ring, not any more special than any other ring with the same common stats, yet it is frequently bought for 20g+ (not sure on price now, haven’t looked in ages).

It is in an obscure part of the game, hidden behind like 3 pre events, the main event, then a puzzle and an easy boss fight, that almost no one in the entire active GW2 population does. A specific class can make this doable every 15 min. It is also possible to solo it.

My pve guild used to do it 2-4 times per day. I myself managed to get the ring twice and listed them both at 22g, both were bought within 24 hours.

What’s funny is there is a daily chest associated with this easy to kill boss, yet basically no one besides our guild does it.

Why do people buy these when there are craftable versions with the same stats for much cheaper? For the name/rarity, kinda pointless imo.

Functionally, first person in MMO’s is useless.

It is good for taking screenshots (most of my GW1 screens were first persons of the environment, so beautiful)

But it is inferior for any kind of combat as long as third person exists at the same time in the game.

- Impossible to see your surroundings
- Harder to interpret the battlefield
- Harder to judge distances of enemies and range for ranged attacks

Imagine fighting a 50v50 zerg fight in first person, the FPS drop from all the close up skill effects alone would be brutal, but you wouldn’t be able to see any of what is going on, and running through other players like clouds would look ridiculous.

Imagine fighting a thief while you’re in first person. The noob would be abusing perma stealth, and you’d never find him again. Same issue with mesmer.

I don’t have an issue with first person combat, but the game has to be built for it, GW2 and almost every MMO is simply built for third person.

Kaos.9162:

It’s going to be amazing to see the champ train meet the hammer train, lmao.

This made my loins tingle

What?

Did I just read…. that WvW gets more attention than SPvP?

LOL!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!LL!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!L!

Wow.

I wish I played the same game as you, where WvW actually got attention.

The same game as you, where the player based doesn’t get ignored since launch.

Where the community backed ideas and suggestions and fixes get put into the game.

A version of GW2 where the emphasis isn’t on the gem store and PvE carrots.

That must be a good version of GW2 you’re playing, I’d definitely pay to play it.

The real enemy is PvE. Are you even aware?