Guild Wars 2

China wont win, they have Nocturne Z on there team right? He’s a mid tier player and use to play NA, if you have 1 mid tier player and 4 top tier going up against teams with 5 top tier players than the odds aren’t in your favor.

EU is going to win like they always do, they provide the community with meta builds unlike the NA teams, they know what there doing and are the innovators unlike the NA teams running previous out of date meta’s compared to what the real meta is.

NA team is also dumb, rather than being an All Star team, theres some people that I would replace on that team which would stand a better chance against EU. Basically its not the best of NA, I kinda look at it like the NBA, theres a lot of good players out there but they not on same team, so when the USA competes against other countries they put all the good players on the same team. This is like the Olympics you need all your good players on the same team, which isn’t happening.

Doesn’t really bother me that NA is going to lose, aint like NA servers are getting a buff due to them winning or a debuff due to them losing. GW2 doesn’t really hype this stuff up much in game and doesn’t make it matter to those that aren’t going. So much stuff GW2 COULD be doing but they aint.

I find that the higher leaderboard players tend to play spirit rangers, while the mid class leaderboard players play engineers, the annoying rifle with splashing water and nades type engineers.

Attached is a high class game… Btw I was leaderboard rank 95% at the time playing with top 100 leaderboard players. My hidden MMR must be pretty dang good, I’m sure its from the days when I was on a team and faced good teams like Karmy, Joshua S type teams (only team I remember that I played against that put up really good fights).

Guess which team won… Ostrich Eggs team didn’t win. That guy Pandemonium, think it was him, he freaking wrecks people, wrecked my entire team. They were all spirit rangers too, or at least 2 of them were. We lost because of not being able to control the team fights, literally was 2v1, 3v2 everywhere and the entire matchup.

You know, I was thinking, there use to be a post about autoattack or something, pretty much those rangers would pew pew you until you dead, its like they did nothing but pew pew and you die. That power of the spirits is real.
I think if Ostrich Eggs went engineer and put condi pressure on those spirit rangers we WOULD have won. I literally thought since Ostrich Eggs was on my team I would get a win, but nope. Lost by 150 or so, all due to pew pew. I’m pretty sure that celestial ele or whatever weakness is pew pew as well.

All those popular preppy kids complaining about celestial ammy and eles using them or something…. I don’t see many eles, I see a lot of rangers and annoying engineers. If a lot of people playing them then you think something is fishy going on, like they too op or something.

Justin ODell.9517:

What, you guys have never seen combined zero-based alternating length encoded binary optimized for ascii text?

This is why YOU get paid the BIG bucks and those guys don’t.

Probably why they don’t allow code sharing to get others to help them make stuff. GW2 is really complex system, most of its coding people have never seen because its top of the line and the math just makes other peoples head swell up and explode… takes 10 year PHd to even get near you level am I right?

Flumek.9043:

Guys id also ask for a tipp

Im mostly a 200-500 rated player in soloq.
Recently ive been more trykittenly on main and decnt builds so i was closer to 200.
Last few days i had real good streaks and ended up just around 100, with 89 being the last time i played (yesterday) .

I am planning to only play 1x game again, tuesday on normal afternoon hours – bassicaly going a all in and hoping for a win – which should put me -89 just hour or two before patch.

Is this the best chance i have?

Theres a lot of really good active players 1-200,

Do not let the pvp population fool you.

Don’t be afraid of someone having 10 accounts, because GW2 developer team is working to make sure a bunch of people cant have 10+ accounts on the leaderboards.

Ex. They award top 10 leaderboard players with a precursor.
Ostrich Eggs wants precursors so he gets 10 accounts to top 10, that way nobody gets precursors but Ostrich Eggs.

Rym.1469:

I believe we would need more ways of supporting/healing NPC for such things.

Also, troll builds…

They need to implement rune of golemancer into pvp.

It isn’t op, I have no idea why that rune isn’t in pvp.

Should be a sigil or superior rune track. Or they should be offered in those tracks that don’t give you a weapon every 2nd completion.

I’d really like to get some superior runes and sigils but they are very pricey, wish pvp had them in reward tracks.

Engineers need balancing (in negative way)? Yup I know this. Period.

Jade Quarry would destroy Fort Aspenwood.

You know how long Jade Quarry has been T1?

Those people changing servers to be apart of T1 (yes I see you guys), if you don’t join Jade Quarry, you lose. Period.

So I have a ornate ruby jewel inside of it, and I want to put a exquisite ruby jewel inside of it but it wont let me.

Is this because the backpack is level 78 and the jewel is level 80?

What are the rules about putting something in an upgrade slot/also infusion slot and deciding to put something else in it later?

Ya, should be fixed, or at least give guardian something for not moving, like invulnerability.

I’ve never landed an hammer 4 while moving either.

The one that lets you choose what superior sigil or rune you want.

s/d thieves are annoying I’ve 1v1 a good one before… hits you and teleports to ledge, teleports on top of you and hits you, rinse and repeat till your dead.

I think they are the ones that did that treb cheat too, hits a treb teleports on ground out of line of sight, teleports back to treb and smacks it and teleports back out of los.

Oh wow 4.5 star game with 100,000 people.

kiimi.2853:

i really understand the reasoning behind this but at the same time i am very worried that some people will make use of this in a very bad way :/

If your thinking someone will ping bomb. Let me tell you this. Its against the law to ping bomb someone, and they’d have to have your ip address as well.

Why do you think people who do such actions are from places like China? Our laws cant get them. You don’t see joe schmoe down the street doing things like that to banks, companies, people.

Thing is, many people are not knowledgeable to even find out who it is and how to report it, or if something even exists.

If you get ping bombed its from your friend, the game doesn’t show your ip address.

robertul.3679:

They should add a cap to the number of water bottles engineer carry in their hobosacks.
Too many splashes!!

Yes that water splash is pretty crazy, its like the engineer is an ele… They are not ele’s, they don’t deserve to be able to cleanse conditions just as good as an ele, yet do crazy damage, knockbacks, and be able to handle crazy amounts of dps. Just add fear to there kitten nal and I wont know what else they could ask for.

Lifestealer.4910:

Its hilarious that people think celestial rifle, a build that is weaker in 1v1 in almost all situation compared to a rabid p/p or p/s somehow needs a nerf. The build at best only gets 6-9 might compared to an ele or warrior who can get 25 easily. IP also hits for noodles and the entire build is extremely predictable having many counter plays.

If you ever lose to this build 1v1, you got outplayed really hard.

Ya… Speaking of which, I lost a 1v2, my team couldn’t take him 1v1, he pretty much went far and dominated.

Seems to be a trend huh? The far guy. Is it an engineer? Yes. Don’t even bother than, because he will 1v1 you 1v2 and 1v3 you. Overpowered freaks, needs some balancing.

So this Friday is Black Friday.

Is there any confirmation of what is going to happen black Friday in GW2?

A friend of mine told me he heard rumors of 60% off everything in the gem store. Seems too good to be true but we will see!

exii.8913:

Western EU has a stronger and more stable connection structure as big parts of the US (especially france, germany, swiss and austria[hi, DSL 300k]). You also can hit pings under 100ms from EU to US with extrem fast path connections. Im playing Ragnarok Online private server for more then 8 years now and trust me I know my stuff.
So the chance that EU players would cause those 4on5s just because of their connection basicly a wrong fact based on non-existing knowledge. The big mass of EU players gives a kitten about joining US servers. They arent the center of the universe.
Thxbye

If its a European playing on an American server they will receive more lag than an American playing on that server due to distance. Also, vice versa an American playing on an EU server.

Ask yourself why is there an American server and a European server and a Chinese server. Rather than 1 server that does all.

Thxbye.

They need to tone down whatever it is that splashes water on them, everytime I fight them they heal themselves so strong that its almost impossible to kill, and the amount of damage they deal shouldn’t be that strong with the amount of bunker they are.

I have received 0 server lag at all. If its server lag it will affect EVERYONE. server goes down, everyone dc’s. server is slow everyone is slow.

I have received no lag from server.

Now if someone is dcing because they playing on NA server from argentina.. Why you put all those bad connection type people on my team? Are these people that dc those people trying to play NA from EU???

Ask yourself these kinds of questions.

Needs to be HARSH dishonor.

I’m so SICK of games like this.

BACK 2 BACK 4v5.
Just 5 minutes ago.

If your connection is bad.. DONT PLAY
If your going to leave soon.. DONT PLAY

Developers stop being easy on people that cause 4v5 games.

My record is SO bad because of this.

Also DO NOT allow people to switch professions during the game. I don’t care if they switch before game starts but not DURING the game.

You guys wonder why I’m so angry all the time. This game makes me so angry. Look at those games, terrible matchmaking. I’m stuck with 2 classes of same type, 1 game 3 classes of same type. Other team is PERFECT, DESTROYER type team… AS usual.

If you got your stuff ready, than IMPLEMENT it now, no reason to wait.

I feel like NOT PLAYING tPVP anymore because of this.

Ever heard of timing is everything?
Go ahead and implement your thing later… There may only be 50 people left playing, rather than IMPLEMENTING it now while you still have a bit more players left playing.

You think I ENJOY huge loss streaks. WRONG.

edit:

Gratz to have listened the wrong people like usually anet

+1 +thousand

It’s not really the turret engineers that really annoy me it’s the 1v2 1v3 never die engineers.

Too many blocks, there shield blocks should not count towards to holding or capping a node either.

They constantly splashing that water healing themselves making them too strong.

They deal too much damage for all that survivability that they have.

That rifle knockback needs a longer cooldown for how powerful it is.

Rocketboots needs a longer cooldown too and a longer cast time.

Guardian hammer banish takes 1 second so those skills need a 1 second cast time as well.

Engineers are too overpowered and needs balanced. Being able to be a bunker and deal insane amount of dps shouldn’t happen.

This needs more balance than those suppose eles and celestial ammy or whatever, I don’t see ANY problems with any ele’s. All the problems I see are with these engineers and the rangers.

That ranger knockback needs toning down too, it needs a 1 second cast time just like the guardian hammer banish.

That same kind of engineer can be used in Skyhammer matches too. Class that does it all, needs balancing because no other class can do it all too.

They heal too hard, they knockback too hard, they deal damage too hard, plus they drop turrets on you making them condi too hard. Too much stuff they do best, needs to be looked at and toned down appropriately…

Ask yourselves, why does guardian have a long casttime to do a knockback but rangers and engineers its different.

You cant even see it coming it’s just instant and they deal so much range damage as well.

Theres no more seasons so all the good WvW’ers are playing the newest WvW map.

Its not that hard to find out where the enemy is, if you pay attention to map.

infantrydiv.1620:

Khenzy.9348:

I’ll play the devil’s advocate here: Will there be balance changes?

There needs to be at least small balance changes to Celestial amulet or might stacking or Ele. But, we probably won’t get any lol

Needs to be balance change on engineers in general. (They completely nerfed my build, AR build, nobody runs it, needs to be balanced (good way, bring back the 100% or make it more incentful than it currently is (50% nerfed from original design, pretty bad shape atm)), everyone complains about turrets, needs balancing, nades are still considered the strong ae condi’s needs balancing). ‘close to same amount of bad talk about engineers as there is to skyhammer’.

I cant believe people still wondering about balance. You know starcraft, they got there game right and they didn’t constantly balance because people wanted change, you didn’t see a zergling meta to a hydra meta to a zealot meta due to balance changes, I don’t remember any balance that needed to happen in starcraft.

One thing that hasn’t been mention yet is will dishonor reset? Like will people be able to abuse it, say it resets every month.

What about hotjoins, obviously it isn’t fun anymore and all serious, and has been on a decline, anything you going to do about it or you just going to let it die out?

Why do you think unrated que has to be there if you already have unrated… Hotjoins.

You remember when you had 2 team que and 8 team que. The thing was the 2 team que had better rewards so everyone did it and hardly anyone did 8 team que. (probably why 8 team que is no longer here, not because it wasn’t what people wanted, but because they (anet) wanted 2 team que to take over and get support by giving it better rewards. I have a feeling this unrated que is going to be that 8 team que. If I remember there was long long wait times, not worth it.

You know how they made all the homecities and LA a megaserver. I really wish they didn’t do that and it was completely same server.

After finding that out too, I kind of feel like repping a server doesn’t mean much anymore, because its just a WvW claim.

I by all means happy and proud to be Jade Quarry but ever since everything got merged in the mega servers, it kinda defeated the server repping feeling.
I didn’t mind regular zones being merged into megaserver, but the cities too?

Makes you wonder, I heard that the all the servers appear to be high or full population. Yet. They feel empty or they had to result to merging the homecities and… LA the most populated zone. It makes no sense to merge the most popular zone when servers are appearing full or high.
Makes it seem that the server population is actually Low, Medium.

If anything all those inactive players make the servers appear high or full.

If theres only 3 instances of EotM, when they merge all the servers into 3 different categories. It shows the state of the population of the game. Because that’s the most popular form of WvW yet theres only 1-3 instances after merging ALL the servers into 3 categories.

Supposedly a fix to this December 2nd.

Thing is I go back to school Dec, 2. So I’m forced to play this terrible matchmaking system as well. I feel your pain in not enough close games.

The new system I hear is only 1 tournament solo que team que combined. Otherwise I’d say the developers need to ensure you cant cheat the solo que system by queing up the same time with your ventrillo/ts/mumble team so your on the same team.
Should be a good welcome back because you make friends a lot easier in pvp, due to people wanting to be on a partial or full team to have some kind of advantage. The Pro’s outweight the Con’s if you ask me.

Just curious? Why do you keep playing after taking such losses in a ROW, lol? (Assuming you was on the losing side all 8 of them, even though 3v5 4v5 is technically 50/50 that your on the 5v4 5v3 side… usually isn’t the case strangely, well for me).

Chaith.8256:

Narcarsis.5739:

Not really sure why I was brought up in this, but Jumper dueled me at 3-4am when I had no sleep and he had just woken up. He asked permission to upload that because he knew I played below how I normally duel, but I really couldn’t care less about a few duels. What I’m trying to figure out is why or how this was even brought up.

It was cause’ this guy fought that noob on Jumper’s account and thought it was a sign from God that matchmaking in this game is conspiring against him, so he added it to to the pile of ‘evidence.’

Nothing but a bunch of haters, video is proof, Jumper X beat Caed, excuses excuses excuses, fact is it happened.
See this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Top-15-North-America/first#post4578275
Know I mentioned, the top 15 of a pool 20 constantly? Well obviously Jumper X wasn’t in that pool, along with a bunch of other people.

zELEVENz.6937:

tl;dr your annecdotal ‘evidence’ is kitten m8. Stop blaming matchmaking and 4v5s and you might actually get good.

I don’t blame nothing on 4v5. I know I’ll lose, and I know its 50/50 if I will be the 4v5 or the 5v4.

What I do blame is matchmaking.
I remember when this system came out, about a year ago. When I was playing was playing when it was fresh, and there was things about (people queeing up at sametime to be on same team…. Will this be addressed or will it be abused until the preppy popular kids get to there top 25 by abusing it than start talking about it to make sure nobody else can do the same?)
However point is, I remember games with stacked teams of good players, and I always thought to myself, how kitten they always on same team. I always wanted to be in a game with a good player vs a good player, but its always stacked games, best I’ve seen was 4 good players on one team and bunch mediocre players on the other and before the game even starts somebody says “gg”.

Another thought came to mind, this is only going to be one leaderboard, so I remember the issue back then, was once you get to 600s you start facing premades, so I wont even see stacked solo que teams, it’ll be premades if anything. I’m all for single leaderboards because it gets people to want to party up with people who they played good with though. As for matchmaking, I don’t see it happening much pre 600s due to playerbase. If you look at these preppy popular kids, most of them formed up during this type of system as well. You don’t see many other people into the PvP scene since this separate solo que team que was made.

To the OP, obviously when you get post 600 you will see people you are familiar with, and you will most likely play against the same teams again and again in a row (this is what I remember). Nothing you can really do about it because you qued, and guess what that same team qued again and no other team is qued. If anything there should be an option, quick que or good match que, play previous teams, etc.

The only thing I hope for is that it’s really based on rating and not, if you win a game go up x amount of points. I hope its like if you beat someone 5 ratings higher than you, you go up 6 rating points, if you beat someone 100 ratings higher than you, you go up 50 rating points (they go down 30 points).

One thing about this pvp leaderboards is that losing is too harsh, you need to make losing less harsh and winning more better. This is how you encourage people to keep playing. Like a 70% go up if you win, 30% go down if you lose. If people don’t ticked off by losing (unless its a 17 loss in a row), than people will keep playing and the playerbase will grow, because they are focusing more on having fun than being rated and thinking about how hard a loss hurt them.

DiogoSilva.7089:

Justin ODell.9517:

Saiyan.1704:

He can join the game. It’s just an automatic -3 (loss) for him.

-3 to -1. Depending on their odds of victory.

And that is clearly a problem with the new system. Instead of offering motivation for a DC player to log back into the game and try to push a victory, it does the opposite. It effectively tells them to screw up. In other words, temporary 4v5 situations turn into full time 4v5 matches. It makes an existing problem worse.

There is a motivation for returning after being dc’ed.

That is instead of taking a terrible loss -3, your taking a -1.

People who dc are bad for the game, this is 2014, it isn’t 1990s. Internet connection has made huge improvements since then, there should no reason why you dc, unless you have bad connection.

Which if you have bad connection your putting your team at a disadvantage, and I don’t like losing because people who have bad connections determine my fate, rather than a fair game.

If anything there should a button called, ‘would you like a bad connection person on your tpvp game. yes. no’. Count people who dc’ed recently as bad connecting people, and they get faced with the people who like having people who dc on there team (none) and people who don’t want them on there team (nobody wants a intermittent connection teammate).

If you have intermittent connection, you obviously shouldn’t be playing online rating type games.

bud.9246:

Your obviously playing in a perfect world that doesn’t really exist ~

Skyhammer is mostly a map of “who has a better graphics card/ lowest ping/latency” because it is one shot kills. You cannot recover from being knocked off, unlike almost all other parts of pvp.

Whoever has a better connection gives you an edge on anything internet related. A player not specced for Skyhammer will lose to someone who is specced for Skyhammer.

You guys talk about wanting new game modes, maps, etc. Obviously if you want to win on some modes or maps you will have to change it up a bit.

Playing a regular meta build on a map that requires you to change a few things will put you at a disadvantage. Because the good players know how to change and the bad players don’t because theres no guidance for them.

A good player will beat a bad player regardless of being 50 ping higher than a bad player. The only thing is that Skyhammer allows good players to beat bad players a lot faster.

Chaith.8256:

uberkingkong.8041:

Oooh we got a Caed fan. Just look at that screenshot, You see Jumper X, you see glorious reward track going on, you see my rank 72 (I sure was no where near 72 back in the days). Jumper X from 2 days ago, better watch out for him. See how he destroyed my team. He going to knock everyone 1 slot down from whoever that preppy popular kid leaderboard is. Going to be Jumper X, Wakkey, Wakkey, Wakkey, than whoever now.
He gonna be Randy Orton, Legend Killer!

Why did you even post that video? What the heck is going on ITT about exploitable ladders…

How the hell did you turn this into a Caed vs. Thief who quit long quit the game by using a video from last year? Props.

To show everyone how good someone is, because its been awhile. Used it in conjunction with my other evidence. To show the scale of people I’m facing, AFTER losing 17 games in a row than another 9 games in a row.

It’s really disheartening when you get games that everyone is clearly above your skill level.

You may be on the winning side, but a lot of people are losing just as many games as I am, and its clearly not fun at all playing against stacked teams in solo que. Thus making me question myself ‘why do I keep playing PvP if its just going to be another terrible matchup, which will result in a loss’ or ‘it isn’t primetime, I cant have a good matchup’.

Like you notice this is done at nighttime, theres only limited amount of players at night time and what I keep seeing is one team super stack and my team (usually) full of newbs.

All of this is solo que.

Also, this was a thread about people exploiting ladder, and when you see people with skill level like Jumper X (some of you don’t know him, so I posted video of him beating Caed), and Sushijr on other team while your team is full newb. This is one of those perfect scenarios where one super rich dude who knows whose good and whose not good to be pressured into this kind of bad practice mentioned in this thread. Not just 1 good person, but 2 good players and your team, aint nobody worth talking about.

Justin ODell.9517:

uberkingkong.8041:

Ya think I found my MMR sweetspot?

Redacting your screenshots is good practice from a privacy standpoint, but it makes it a lot harder to confirm and diagnose your matchmaking issue.

Speculating, and assuming this is solo arena from the RP reward, it looks like you were hit by the critical flaw in the current matchmaking.

The current matchmaking was designed for tournaments, not one off games, so it works by forming teams and then matches them against other teams. Jumper X and Sushijr’s team likely had a high MMR forcing them to wait in the queue for a longer amount of time. This kicked in the fail-safes that slowly widened the range of rosters we tried matched against them. Even worse, if there were no other high MMR players, their team would be filled with lower MMR players, lowering their mean MMR, dropping the range even further. Your team was the first that fit the now expanded (and possibly lower) search range. Since it was solo arena, and assuming this sshot is after the change, it tried to shuffle the players between the teams. Unfortunately, no matter how you shuffle that deck, one team will always get 3 players from the higher team. Often that doesn’t matter, but for high MMR teams that have been waiting, it can matter a lot. If the sshot is from before that change, you were just SoL.

Lucky for us all, after Dec 2nd, we’ll be using the new servers and matchmaking which doesn’t work like this at all. I can’t begin to say how happy this makes me. Seeing so many having a hard time because of MM has been a driving force over the last year.

Also, lucky for me, after Dec 2nd, I’ll have much better tools that will let me see your match history, and a lot more, so I can stop speculating and start knowing.

That screenshot was from 11/24/2014 12:55AM CST if you want to look at it further. As you can see my team clearly got outskilled outplayed out MMR’ed.
I am looking forward to Dec 2 patch, wish it was implement right now though. Hate waiting!

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

uberkingkong.8041:

Have you know I remember this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VyDlzyuZU

If you guys claim Caed is #4 best 1v1, in this video Jumper beats Caed, making him #3 or better 1v1’er.

This video is from like a year ago, and Jumper doesn’t even play the game anymore. Plus S/D during that time was stronger than it is now. Pretty sure Caed adapted and knows how to deal with S/D better than a year ago.

Oooh we got a Caed fan. Just look at that screenshot, You see Jumper X, you see glorious reward track going on, you see my rank 72 (I sure was no where near 72 back in the days). Jumper X from 2 days ago, better watch out for him. See how he destroyed my team. He going to knock everyone 1 slot down from whoever that preppy popular kid leaderboard is. Going to be Jumper X, Wakkey, Wakkey, Wakkey, than whoever now.
He gonna be Randy Orton, Legend Killer!

GOSU.9574:

uberkingkong.8041:

They already merged, called Edge of the Mists

The topic was concerning WvW, not PvE content where sometimes a fight breaks out.

EotM is WvW, its the newest map introduced to WvW.

The developer simply makes something for the WvW community and its in the players hands.

Not my fault people don’t want a serious WvW.
If you want a serious WvW than start taking it serious, because you can do whatever you want on that map, not my fault people prefer to see who can take stuff faster than the other person.

You could do exactly what you do in EotM and put it into WvW and vice versa.

You assume WvW players want one thing, but they really want something like EotM.
None of you speak for everyone, the game speaks for itself, you could defend in EotM, but ‘fact is’ people prefer to play how they play on EotM (The more fun, less serious way).

Same can be said for PvP, hotjoins, after they made it serious 5v5, theres a lot less servers and people playing playing them. Just isn’t fun anymore, which is what they want in a game.

Not some ‘Must defend’ ‘Must do this’ ‘Must do that’.

EotM is just a more fun style of WvW, hence why so many people play it. Also, because its most up to date(newest) map of WvW. Also, because its merged servers together so, don’t have to worry too much about being on an ‘’empty’ server.

Those engies that throw a bunch of nades, still pretty mean. It’s like everything about an engy is mean. Everything on engies needs to be toned down.

They kinda like ele’s back in the days.

Have you know I remember this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06VyDlzyuZU

If you guys claim Caed is #4 best 1v1, in this video Jumper beats Caed, making him #3 or better 1v1’er.

So I was kinda tempted ya know, rattle the coins. And Sushijr, I remember that guy, hes good too.

See this is how I keep getting kittening losses, terrible kittening matchmaking. 17 losses in a row, 7 losses in a row.

Ya think I found my MMR sweetspot? Nope, they want to put me against these kittenes. Either this game thinks I’m so good to play with these guys, or the PvP community is so tiny, that it puts the bad players against the good players. Pretty kittened up. Also these disconnections when ‘I think the game wants me to win a game’, nope somebody dc’s out and I take a loss than go on some more ‘game wants me to lose’.

Going from 8 games over 50% wins, to 9 games under 50%.

Somedays I don’t even feel like PvPing anymore, so unmotivating to lose game after game, why even play PvP if the game is going to make me LOSE again? I played over 3k games, I know how this PvP works, it’s just the game wants me to LOSE, so why even play? ‘Hey we going to put you with a bunch of newbs, vs a bunch a strong people… Good Luck’… kitten that kitten, I should probably just quit too and make there community even smaller.

You know there twitch during official tournaments? The first tournament wasn’t even hyped, wasn’t all about freebies if you watch the channel, had equivalent or more viewers than the most recent. (First one had 2k+ viewers, most recent, NA had like 1600 viewers). And the most recent was all hyped, all these freebies for PvE’ers come to watch. I bet you that PvP to PvE ratio was a lot bigger in the second one and the first one was pretty much nothing but PvP’ers, with the second one having a lot of PvE’ers you do the math of if the PvP’ers quit.

You only get people to even think about paying someone else for a win if the matchmaking is terrible, like it was in that picture.

You fix matchmaking, you’ll have a lot less people who even think like that.

Justin ODell.9517:

style.6173:

Why does ANET continue to push skyhammer when the majority of players do not like it?

Because if we only cared about what the majority of players like there wouldn’t even be a PvP mode?

We know some players like Skyhammer and some don’t. After Dec 2nd will know the exact numbers, but don’t expect to be surprised. We try to be inclusive as possible.

Theres plenty of people that like Skyhammer.
The preppy popular kids like it because theres no builds for Skyhammer on http://metabattle.com/wiki/MetaBattle_Wiki .
They are the only ones who can dominate so kitten hammer and force an easy win because everybody doesn’t know how to knock people off.
All the community knows is run into enemy and hope you win by spamming buttons.

They don’t know anything about the skill and high level of play it takes to win Skyhammer. When you see a game won by like 100 to 500, its all because a good player carried entire team.

I’m all for more maps where skill is greatly put into the game, where a good player can truly win the game against a bunch of baddies, on regular conquest that cant happen as easily as it is on Skyhammer type map. You cant easily take out 1-3 people by yourself due to high skill level of play.

More maps like Skyhammer please, and keep Skyhammer its a great map, just requires a lot of skill. And changing your build to support that map (one thing a lot of players lack, they refuse or lack capability to change there builds to be more effective on Skyhammer, thus they get owned all day… Not ANET fault, its the players fault. Everyone is on equal grounds, its just the skill that comes in and it shines kitten Skyhammer.

What usually happens on Skyhammer is one guy dominates hammer room, the entire team refuses to goto hammer because they all newbs and ‘I cant 1v1’, thus nobody goes to hammer, and game has been predetermined. If nobody on your team can 1v1 him, than he clearly better than you (you can do anything he can do, its a fair pvp system), if your team doesn’t 2v1 him or he beats both of you, then clearly he is better than you. You team doesn’t even deserve to win. And reason why he would beat you both is because mainly you didn’t change to a good Skyhammer spec (no good Skyhammer specs are available, hence why people have issues with this map.)
Those preppy popular kids, will gladly show you builds that everyone knows about, but when it comes to showing you a Skyhammer build… Its a secret, they like farming you on tournaments to even think about showing you the secret Skyhammer build.

Don’t blame the game, blame the players.

Problem here isn’t really, should there be dishonor or not. Of course there should be dishonor.

Problem is, there needs to be a pause feature to let people have a chance to get back into the game.

That way, those sketchy internet people can play freely and if they are that bad where they dc pretty much every game….. People can recognize them and hate them for playing the game due to game pausing every minute, to meet there needs.

Fact is people don’t really care about people who dkittenil it affects them.

You could be for less hate on dishonor, than after you have 10 losses because somebody having poor connection and dcing out of game and caused you to lose matches and next thing you know…. Punish those poor connection people hard!!!
You could be for less dishonor and favored toward people with bad connection… Next thing you know, every game you get with them the game gets paused every min to allow them to comeback.. Guess what, it will start to tick you off.

Those preppy popular kids have a perfect world, they got there team, nothing but good players, nothing bad happens to them, that’s why they could care less.

Look at merging solo que with team que… They start whining now….. Hrmmmm.. Wonder why….. Because it affects them, that’s why.

Open hundreds of chests on my level 5 toon. The loot was able to contain precursors, ascended, etc. But we all know, opening on a lvl 5 toon yields level 5 results.

I found out yesterday, I use to think Edge of the Mist was server based, but it isn’t, was very shocked to hear its a bunch of servers combined.

I use to think it was server based because it goes for 3 hours and then says “looking for new game, teams” something in that nature, so I thought it was my server vs random servers who were winning or losing.

Had no idea it was just same merged servers fighting same merged servers.

lordkrall.7241:

MarkPhilips.5169:

Many times are a server issues, not players issue.

I don’t see why a player needs to be punished if many times the main problem is the server and not the connection.

Source?

If “many times” it was a server issue, wouldn’t that mean that EVERYONE would be disconnected?

Exactly, people just like to make excuses.

There are people with bad connections, and those people RUIN the game for everyone else and do not deserve to play competitively, especially with people who do not agree to allow a “sketchy connection person” on there team (If I had an option, if you have bad connection, you get off my team).

When I lose games because my team is down a person due to them dcing or logging out, its very frustrating. Especially when you know you could have won and that your also on a massive losing streak.

I’m all for anet punishing people with bad connections, and am all for anet punishing them harder.

People don’t realize that we live in a time where we have smooth internet, but if your one of those people still living in weird conditions where you cant get smooth internet, than its your fault, not anet, its your fault. We don’t live in the 90s anymore, no more dial up. We are 24 years from the 90s.

Simple minded? Think about the impacts of having someone with poor connection on your team. one, your team lost because of that person. one person could be on a huge lose streak and quit the game because stupid stuff like this happening. one person could quit tpvp because stupid stuff like not punishing those people with bad internet. other two people, who knows, probably play another game and sooner or later will stop pvping because of it or quit the game too. The other team could have been the losers of the game, and because of poor connection guy on the opposing team, they got upscaled in rating and later on face many loses in a row because improper upscale and thus quit the game because losing consecutively game after game (IT AINT FUN LOSING 5+ games in a row).

Those preppy popular kids, they don’t lose 5 games in a row, so they wouldn’t know the feeling. That’s why you cant always go off there ideas, they only experience the good side of tPvP, they don’t experience loss after loss after loss, frustration after frustration after frustration.

They looking for a fight, when nobody is there to fight, they wait right outside until someone like you logs in, so they can fight you.

They already merged, called Edge of the Mists

They should dishonor people for dcing.

If you have bad internet than DONT kittenING PLAY period.

I hate matches where I lose because somebody “sorry guys I keep dcing”.

Don’t kittening play if you have bad internet it ruins the experience for your team. I play against good players constantly, I don’t have time for somebody to be dcing. Get your dishonor, stop playing the game if you are a dc freak.

Ya this is so stupid, If you have bad internet than DONT kittenING PLAY tPVP period.

Pixels.6532:

first match of the day: skyhammer

first comment of the match was a ranger on our team: I haven’t pvp’d before, help em out

first loss of the day

First exaggeration of my day

Yall dumb, the new arenas are voted maps.

If Skyhammer is really the most hated map it will never be chosen, so you have nothing to worry about.

The only thing you have to worry about is playing Legacy of the FoeFire again and again and AGAIN.

Narkodx.1472:

uberkingkong.8041:

Just having a random 1v1 tournament that probably had only 20 participants doesn’t make them the best at 1v1. Theres millions of players in the game. Around 20 people is a tiny fraction of types of playstyle and skills the other 999,980+ people have to offer.
Also theres no videos of this either in this thread. How can we judge them if we don’t even know who they faced? each other?

No brackets or any proof, just information that’s not really valid is all I’m seeing here.

Do you realize how lost you are?

This is not the result of a 1v1 tournament lol

Oh ya, so your saying these 15 players or whatever there tournament pool was (prolly around 20 players) represents the best of NA?

Sure it might be a tournament, but tournaments like this is WHY there’s on average 2,000 people watching advertised gw2 major twitch tournaments.
Nobody wants to see reruns of the same people fighting each other.
Nobody wants to see the same preppy kids fight each other.
Already seen these kids fight each other, I want to see them fight real champions.
Go get a video with one of these guys fighting CloudFly.
Go be on a video with TapDatMouse showing you in a long line of other people waiting to get there kitten handed to them. TapDatMouse did his own 1v1 tournament in that video, guess what, FLAWLESS victories!!

I aint seen no video of this backpack 1v1 tournament. If anything its just more preppy kids hyping each other up, trying to get more twitch viewers.

TapDatMouse actually goes and finds whoever is there and destroys them, he don’t call his frat buddy and pretend fight 1v1 and then decide to go to forums and act like it was some tournament.

NeXeD.3042:

All the players on those lists are most definitely skilled players, OEggs teamqued with us (FPX)the other day and we were destroying people mostly because he would plant his kitten at far and proceed to 1v2 1v3 the other team giving us the advantage on every other point.

I always find it amusing when people decide that these players aren’t skilled and that random guy they know from solo q is so much better than all of them but cannot break into tourneys because it’s some sort of secret society or popularity contest. Morons.

Talking about this?
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/ENGI-IS-UNBEATABLE
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Tone-Down-Engineers/first#post4573498
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Most-Engis-Wins/first#post4574875
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Engies-are-breaking-sPVP/first

Lemme guess ‘plant his kitten far’ as in Ostrich Eggs is the reason why everyone is whining about turrets. ‘1v2 1v3ing people’ “unbeatable” “breaking spvp” “tone him down!”
Pretty OP if you ask me, Ostrich Eggs should be #1 1v1’er if he can do 1v2 1v3 far and makes every other node easy pickings.

Ostrich Eggs shouldn’t be on Team Play if all he does is ‘1v2 1v3 at far’.

If anything there should be a 1v2 1v3 leaderboard as well, and see who can be unbeatable the most or who can break spvp or so tough that people want them toned down. To me, how you describe Ostrich, sounds like what I just said, unbeatable, needs toning down, and hes breaking spvp. He’d probably be the only one on the 1v2 1v3 leaderboard, along with the other engies, not sure if chaith plays 1v2 1v3 engy #unbeatable #breakingspvp #needstoneddown style.

TapDatMouse and CloudFly would own you guys, like he did to those guys in the video I showed earlier in WvW and heres one in PvP, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enhBvwiFyi4 he beat 8 people 1v1 no rest. I don’t see any videos of the preppy popular kids doing that. CloudFly doesn’t really stream, he just owns people all day, cant show you his l33tness.

Just having a random 1v1 tournament that probably had only 20 participants doesn’t make them the best at 1v1. Theres millions of players in the game. Around 20 people is a tiny fraction of types of playstyle and skills the other 999,980+ people have to offer.
Also theres no videos of this either in this thread. How can we judge them if we don’t even know who they faced? each other?

No brackets or any proof, just information that’s not really valid is all I’m seeing here.

Xillllix.3485:

There is absolutely nothing about new content (game modes/maps) in that blog post.
That worries me very much, specially that now with map selection everyone will get bored of playing the same map over and over much quicker.

Good point, hate to be a naysayer but this feels like something that was hyped about a year ago.

Remember, a year ago….
New matchmaking
New leaderboards (they claimed we aren’t showing rating because we doing testing)…. (what they doing right now??? Testing some moar!!!)

I remember watching leaderboards, the #2 guy won 13 games in a row and didn’t advance to #1 and there was threads about “can you guys show rating so I know how far I’m away from taking his spot???”

You think they will show rating this time around??? (Maybe after they test they will, well that’s what they claimed a year ago)

TapDatMouse/Nhymx would own all those kids 1v1.
Just watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQIsQ2tKsL8&index=6&list=PL6olnAOnRUD7ULksYD9Rgm9O9XEfaI80F and believe.
That 1v1 tournament probably based on a pool of 20 players, so many other good players out there, that would knock em off the list. Like CloudFly from Jade Quarry would own these kids too.

Elitist.8701:

Nobody cares

/15char

+1
Nothing but preppy popular kids, I see these guys every sticking day I decide to support GW2 by watching streams.

Not even like they seriously compete against each other, or any rivalries in existence.

Also, I’ve never seen any of those guys in actual games (I’ve played over 2 thousand games tournament) except for Tarcis and Ostrich Eggs. Those other guys don’t even play regular game (tournaments) besides those Twitch tournaments.

It’s like a list of the people who are in a GW2 fraternity.