Guild Wars 2

I don’t know if your stomping players because your on a team, but I think the issue now is that teams are playing against solo players too often, which leads to mass amounts of people losing, and nothing but the same people winning.

Hard to tell because people say they stomp players and they play ranked games, but they don’t say if they went solo or into the que as a party. everyone knows the people that went in as solo lost, but the winners of 80%+ games… No clue if they went solo.

Funny how they allowed it to get DDoS attacked and couldn’t find alternate communications.

So many ways to acquire a new ip address (source of internet) from the internet in this day and age, especially with the big push towards satellite communications.

Nothing but a bunch of IT’s in GW2, I’m sure they attended this. They must’ve all been programmers and left the network IT back home.

When you watch shows like college football and such, you don’t see them easily getting ddos. You’d think they LEARNED from the wts qualifiers how to go about ddos, but they haven’t. They need some military instructors as there manager. They need to be taking issues like that seriously because that’s the biggest GW2 live tournament, and to just let it get ddos and unable to resolve the issue…. Just sad.

In the military if you lose communications. You have your chief’s breathing on your back, you get ZERO sleep. You get that kitten up before you go to sleep. You call everyone in, even those that just got off work. Nobody sleeping till that kitten is up. Nobody knows how to fix it, you better get call the help desk and keep troubleshooting however long it takes till its up. High stressful environment. If you take too long you’ll get officers and high ranking officers breathing down your backs. Did you make the call? Whats the status? Whats the status? Every 5 mins… Whats the status? Losing comms in the military is like saying somebody nuked you. You lose communications that’s extremely bad.

You think if the super bowl got ddos, they’d allow it? Hell nah. This is the super bowl of gw2 and they couldn’t do nothing about the ddos even though this is a game, game’s major event, they have tons of IT’s employed. Figure that kitten out.

Edit, didn’t realize nobody answered your question, to watch some of it, OP go to this twitch channel. http://www.twitch.tv/jebrounity/b/595930973 All it shows is NA vs EU, don’t know of any other sources to watch it. There maybe other sources, but whoever is in charge of PR or marketing team, didn’t turn it into youtube, didn’t get the china matches shown. I mean serious, they couldn’t just local stream it even though they got ddos attacked? I mean common people use your brains, this is the super bowl of GW2, get a local copy and put it on youtube later or something. Use that video screen kitten, so many things COULD have been done, but didn’t get done.

Now if there is a youtube, than you see… Nobody knows about it, like I been telling yall. The issue isn’t the game, its communication to the players, letting them KNOW about stuff. The communication isn’t very good, you have to try HARDER, outside box thinking.

The winners aren’t saying if they went in solo or if they team que’d, most likely all the losers are the solo que’ers and the team que’ers are winning all the games.

ViralVarda.2739:

I got this message, too. Clicked no because I was already in a match, though.

Smart person. Why on earth would you click yes and leave/ fail/ collect dishonor from your current match for another match.

I had 4 idiots on my team who fell for it, which left me in a 1v5 situation. This happened YESTERDAY, and guess what, its still ongoing. It shows you how calm they are to issues like this.

They let issues like this go unresolved, and they don’t warn people about this issue by having a sticky or mailing something to people and letting them KNOW not to accept it, because theres a lot of idiots who do accept it.

You see that kitten, you click no.
My entire team fell for that bull kitten. See pic.

This has been going on for 3+ days now. Shows you how lax there management is to severe issues like this. Shows you how calm the developer team is to let this continue for days.

Always gotta be MY TEAM that gets 4v5, MY TEAM that are idiots and click yes to that crap to put me into a 1v5 situation. Always gotta have dumb people on MY TEAM.

Why kitten you accept a new game when your already in a game, just dumb.

heartless.6803:

PvP always has the worst players. The higher up you get the worse the players get.

I’ve known people that just naturally can figure everything out on how to play the class in like 30 secs and can take a level 1 into mists and dominate. There is also people like me, who after 2 years and almost an 80 still sucks massively in pvp.

But there is always celestial engi or ele for me I guess.

Haha I might be in same boat as those who played so long and suck, so hard to tell. Theres a difference between being screwed and being a sucky player though. Being screwed means you have a bad W/L because you keep getting 4v5s 1v5s, BULLBULL like that stuff and being a bad player means nothing but good matches but still lose all fights you do. I’d say I’m mix of those, hard to tell because I keep facing GOOD players.

Also, when they nerf your main build, your best build, pretty hard to recover. kittening automated response nerf.

Nothing OP about automated response, you just was a massive condi tank. Its nothing like current engineers now, good at EVERY mothakittena thing. sumo engy couldn’t kill kitten, just did a good job sumoing people at far. These new meta engineers, they don’t nerf good at EVERY mothakittena thing. I don’t know why they don’t get 50% nerf like the sumo engineers got.

If you want to do a guardian equivalent to these current meta engineers, this is what you do, put the pro’s of medi guardian and ah guardian together. See how they then good at every mothakittena thing? That’s how these meta engineers are, they deserve a 50% decrease. That 50% decrease on sumo engineers wasn’t just a nerf, it was a up the butt hard kitten nerf. Completely destroyed that trait. You see people use it and win matches now? HELLLL no, that thing got nerfed so hard up the butt nobody thinks twice about that trait anymore.

Are you guys winning team qued?

You have to realize you have chance to face solo que’ers, which could be biggest reason for your wins. If so I’m glad your winning and facing them, when I really get back into the game I’ll start getting friends and expect to win more than I lose too. Due to partying and making friends equals making you win more games which equals fun.

I like this too.

Elxdark.9702:

Kenadas.9680:

With the won of Abjured the last hope in “non-bullkitten-comps” is gone.
That tournament officaly showed us how comp>skill i mean wtf OE died to Helseth in 1v1.
By the way NA still scrubs.

mmmmmmmmmmm your tears are delicious my friend.

Btw NA> EU deal with it.

He does have a point, a Mesmer a duelist class losing to an engineer 1v1.
Now they understand why a lot of people on NA QQ about engineers and how we always have to say they need to be toned the kitten down.

Also his point in NA using just eles engineer and a thief, goes to show that Mesmer, ranger, warrior, guardian, and maybe a necro needs buffs. Because NA other teammates same professions except for whoever plays the necro. Notice how Hman isn’t even talked about anymore, those engineers too powerful.

Nothing to do with celestial amulets, everything to do with engineers. Before this engineer meta I don’t recall OE making it to any top team, now that engineers are the thing, he gets accepted into a top team because hes a good engineer. When a ranger meta comes out, guess what, euratien will most likely replace one of those people on that team.

TCG did play pretty bad though, they mostly was dominating than somehow they got stalled into something and lose the match. Temple match is a perfect example. I bet if they continued to play the same and just let abjured get both tranq and stillness, rather than get stalled into a bad position, they would’ve won.

Engineers though… TANKY, CONDI’Y CC’Y, DPS’Y, AE DPS’Y, MOBILE’Y, BLOCK’Y, KNOCKDOWN’Y, HEAL’Y they have too much things they good at. While you look at a mesmer, squishy, lack of condi’s, some CC (nowhere near as much as engineer), DPS, lack of AE DPS, somewhat mobile, can block attacks but not as good as an engineer.

EU finally realized when a team has an engineer, they probably will lose. If a team has TWO engineers they have great chance to lose. If theres THREE engineers, might as well count it as a loss.

Second most annoying class to fight against on NA isn’t ele, its kittening rangers. That knockback shot is extremely annoying, for some reason its always followed by some necro out of nowhere doing his 3 second death combo on you and you die off the node and bleed to death. Rangers and Engineers are annoying because they can bully you off a node and let you bleed out, no other class can do this.

But back to topic, I’m glad NA won, good for them. I don’t like any of them, but they repping NA and that’s all that matters. Just like players who rep for Jade Quarry. You know how it is, you might get into a bunch of fights with your brother, but at end of day he’s family.

Somebody winning a lot?
Most likely premades winning against people solo queing a lot, its just hard to tell if they premade.

Like OP Necro said he won every game, did he say it was majority solo que’ers he beat?

Maybe there should be an option to stay with previous team. I need to start asking good players to party with me and que with me so I can start winning all my games like OP necro, and win 90% of them 500 to 0.

Not complaining too hard about my losses though, I get 500 points for losing instead of 200-300 points.

DanzelOPP.5068:

@Uber they actually did have a message that was displayed where your monthly and dailies are displayed. If you clicked it, it would take you directly to twitch which had the time and date posted.

I still really wish they made it more known.

That area is pretty much what I consider living story area which is spam to me, and thus sneaking in WTS link up there in replacement of LS made me never realize it.

I saw the games, and they were pretty good games, still angry I didn’t get to watch it go live.

How many twitch viewers watched it on the main channel? Still under 3k?

It looked pretty esports at the location, but its the viewership that counts at the end of the day.

Know whats funny,

I was in multiple games yesterday, I noticed the pvp buff, wasn’t sure if the WTS tournament was going on and I asked a lot of people when the WTS is going to happen, like what day what time, etc.

Nobody had a clue about when the WTS was going to happen.

Goes to show AGAIN the marketing team for GW2 is slacking.

…. I actually wanted to see it live too.
If this game isn’t esports, if you had low twitch views less than 3k (on main twitch channel) like you always have, its not per say the streamer’s fault, this is an official GW2 tournament, its the GW2 marketing department fault.

I was looking forward to watching this tournament, but the way the marketing team of GW2 operates, I have to literally go out of my way to figure out when the dang thing happens. I even come to the forums and active member on it and I still didn’t know the exact time.

There’s a lot of slacking going on if you ask me. They need to hire some proactive managers to get those developers and marketing team start doing there jobs at the highest level possible. Not a, we gonna release a piece of crap and fix it by whoever complains type matchmaking/patch/new system, and a I’m going to send a tiny message some random place about the WTS (not gonna bother with getting more of the target market, just want whoever I have already and those who look intensely to figure out when its actually going down), after that, going to go eat me some donuts and sit back and watch some Netflix.

Annoyed that I didn’t get to see this, and I actually had time off and was able to watch this, but…. NOTHING, no communication to me about when its going down.
Was in game yesterday, saw the buff, actively was on forums yesterday, YET I didn’t see or hear or even nobody I asked knew WTS was going down.

See the pics, I asked, none of them knew, I asked in hotm as well, nobody knew.
Now I just realized reviewing those pictures angrily because I missed the WTS due to bad GW2 marketing team, that it does say WTS at top right.

Funny, I never even noticed that stuff yesterday because that’s like a spam area, nothing but a bunch of spam up there, the only thing I really pay attention to is the daily. I don’t really pay attention to that LS or spam area.

They should have sent you a mail, even that is spam area. They should have had some major thing dead smack in everyones way saying WTS and what time its going to be and where. They should have made it spam across peoples screen as they first enter into the game. They should have made a sticky on the PvP forums about it. They should have informed you on the forums and made you click an okay button to show that you know its going on before you can do anything on the forums.

So many things the marketing team could have done, but they didn’t. They didn’t ask themselves HOW BAD DO YOU WANT GW2 to be successful. Obviously by there show of how bad they want it, they didn’t want it bad enough.

I’m not sure if its just me, or if anyone else thinks this. But the games are really fast now, and I don’t like it at the moment, maybe needs some time to get used too, but they just feel so fast, like I don’t remember whose on my team and who the other team is.

The game should have some kind of voice saying whose fighting who. Would make guilds become more noticeable and players notice other players better because they recognize the game saying the players name.

To be honest, I only know NA PvP guilds Abjured because they are going to WTS and GASM, I don’t know who Hman or Zoose or Davinci, or Darth, or Kirito plays for. It’s not that I’m not interested its more because the game doesn’t really make guilds noticeable or make them have meaning.

Theres no list of guilds with players representing them, showing overall leaderboard score and game score or how many high ranks they have or anything.

Back to topic, yes I agree, I think this matchmaking is a bust. There are some good matches but playing solo I’ve been noticing that when I lose, I lose hard most of the times.
Due to the quickness of the queing system it doesn’t really give anyone any chance to send a tell or whisper to whoever they noticed was a good player to party up with them. The que is like instant. And having it pop up multiple times is annoying.

The matchmaking system should not limit how many people ready up, it should let whoever is available to ready up and ensure the 1st match is good before starting the 2nd round of games for another group, and consider you ready for 45 seconds. After 45 seconds it should ask again if your ready. If I hit the ready button 5 seconds ago, obviously I’m ready, you don’t need to ask me the same question all over again 10 seconds later.

Also, I don’t like the new font, its terrible, you should be able to color code your name, to make it unique, it should have guild tag next to the name too, to further influence guilds by making it more known and out there and feel like your actually repping something.

If those guys NA had to change there guilds like 10 times, obviously they don’t give a kitten, its just some random thing. Guilds should have people giving a kitten. Like if people are in a top guild they should be really proud. But thing is, there really is no top guild NA. Just a bunch of random guilds folding and random guilds being created. Like Team Legends way back then, you don’t see anymore Team Legends, they all in some other random guild they made. Even before Team Legends they was called something else. I had no clue what guild any of those phantaram ostrich eggs chaith was in before I watched twitch stream and saw, oh they in some guild called abjured, never heard of that guild until the NA qualifiers.

The developer team needs to start working and making guilds more noticeable and more meaningful. Like the ideas I mentioned earlier and also they could add stuff like +10% more money from pvp, +50% more magic find from pvp, +15% more reward track progress, +10% chance to earn additional chest, have your guild be presented in a fashionable way at start of match, have announcer announce you guild, so much you can do.

And make it unique from the current guild tab, make it be based off games won by your guild. Have to win 10 games with your guild before you can choose which option you’d like to activate for x hours. Make it so you have to actually pvp to get pvp guild benefits. I say make it off games won because being based off leaderboards can be abused by those players not playing and sitting at the top. If they are truly good players they have nothing to fear from having to play more than there usual to get rewards, just like everybody else. More people you have in your guild, more guild games being won, faster you can activate the rewards. Incentive is to get more people into guild, and not just some 5 man preppy team reaping all the benefits. Sure that preppy team can win 10 games easily, but if they just have 1 team going at it, its a lot slower than a good sized pvp guild having multiple teams winning games.

They trying to make up for it with the pvp buff you get.

Even with the +200% luck, still got all junk.

I agree it is annoying.
I do it like 3+ times everytime before I get a game.

It died because its not part of EB anymore.

People cant be cool and offer free portals and spam it in chat anymore.

Now you go there and you have no clue if someone is portaling or not, so people don’t even bother going there to find out anymore.

So its been a day for the developers to fix there kitten.

I play courtyard its, alright (was 5v5 entire match) 1 guy sucked balls (5 points, everyone else on team at 30, clearly he was out of everyone’s MMR range to suck so bad), so we lost.

Second game so far.
Look at the screenshots.
Enough said.

You think about how angry I am about this.

You people at anet think about the turnover rate of players coming back to the PvP scene, since you let this crap go on for 2 days. Should be ashamed of yourselves, I had faith in you guys but this crap, 2 days? (referring to pics 2-5, especially 4, I think that’s reason why my entire team went missing.) Unacceptable.

I go from playing with top tier people with the old system and this new system, kittening me over already.

You think I can win a 1v5? Obviously someone trolling me hard.

This is soooo unacceptable. I don’t quit easily (you remember when you gave me 17 losses in a row?) I will however keep showing how bad your system is, if it continues like the 2nd match I had…. 5v4, we going to win!!!! 1v5, jussssst kidding, you lost sucka.

Imagine how someone who isn’t as resilient as I am, imagine what they do. They quit. Nobody got time for this crap, especially when they had a full day and then some to resolve the issue or go GM mode on the pvp and schedule matches firsthand due to bad coding they’ve done. This is just terrible, totally unacceptable.

This is how my games have went so far. Day freaking TWO and obvious thing like this hasn’t been resolved.

Edit: What needs to happen is whoever is in charge of the coding developers, needs to start breathing on the coding developers backs and start making the coding developers stressed out.

They obviously had plenty of times they did matchmaking codes, YET they still mess up, and this is the worst I’ve seen out of all of those matchmaking codes/ new system codes they’ve done in the past.

Your suppose to learn from your failures and become better, not worse.

Extremely angry, because I thought all the issues would get resolved on DAY 2, but nope. And nothing is going to get fixed over the night time. Whoever is in charge of those developers should call them back to work and fix this issue. Its DAY 2 for crying out loud.

Straegen.2938:

Moving from a low pop server will likely make your limited play time more fulfilling. “Server Loyalty” is pointless and has little merit since we all started on a server mostly by random choice.

I suggest T1 or T2 and pretty much any server in those tiers is a solid pick.

I feel you on server loyalty.

Everything is mega servered now, it throws out the server pride.
If cities were still server based rather than megaservered it wouldn’t be so bad, but the only thing server based is WvW and that’s really sad.

Mine as well just remove servers since everything is mega server, really no point in joining a server except to be apart of there WvW community, which Jade Quarry is the strongest WvW community there is by being in T1 for so long, its a server that’s not really leaving T1 anytime in future or near future.

But yes, it makes no sense to even have servers anymore, mine as well just let people create there character and not even ask for a server since everything is mega server. Just turn WvW into Guilds. Guilds are pretty useless in this game anyways (has a tiny impact on game, no strong reason why you should join a guild), might as well make useful for a change by making WvW Guild based instead and making it smaller scale.

Spice up the game and make it good vs evil vs neutral. The thing is, you don’t have much freedom in the game and everyone is forced as a good being, unlike the traditional MMORPG style of playing evil… Orges, Dark Elves, or just by worshipping evil gods.

But yes, megaservers pretty much killed the server pride, although I’m still proud to be on Jade Quarry and how great my world is doing. Some people may say server loyalty doesn’t matter, but Jade Quarry is one of those servers where vast majority of the people on that world are loyal to that world and proud too. We don’t have many xfers off, xfers on unlike the other servers have. Jade Quarry is truly a unique server, should have a ribbon for best world NA.

Arcadio.6875:

PierPiero.9142:

If you lose becouse your oppenent is stronger you lose also in a conquest map , having a different kind of game for me is better, it is in any case a bigger opportunity to have fun. I really don’ understand which is the problem in maintaining it also in ranked queue. It is something different …

Lost 500 – 0 in CY. Next match was against same team but in conquest. We won.

Until they implement the ability to save different builds so you can easily switch between them, I can’t agree with CY being in the same queue as conquest maps. Even then it should be in a different queue.

Such baloney.

Anyone can talk stuff. But without evidence, its nothing but a bunch of baloney. Its not hard to screenshot, its just 1 button and it nicely goes to a convenient location on your computer.

All these people making up outrageous claims. You know… I’ve yet to see a screenshot of a 0 – 500 courtyard game.

I love to cite this page on a lot of the complaints people have.

Justin ODell.9517:

Rusc.4978:

Do we know an approximate time for when it will be implemented?

No, I don’t believe we have anything currently planned. We’ll probably want to regroup and evaluate the current state of the servers before we decide.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Dishonor-NOT-turned-on-Dec-2-update/first#post4598461

It’s not even turned on!! Well, its going off the old system, and there was a lot of 4v5 and uneven matches with the old system. However they want to keep testing a system that’s already known to be broke for however long they are pleased with. Could be years, months, weeks, decades!!

Genoshock.2104:

It’s done per class even if you have multiple characters

What this guy said.

I’m sure the developers have it coded where even if you deleted your only necromancer, that it will still register your account playing necro and put you where you left off at in the MMR of playing a necro.

Well I haven’t seen or heard about anything about Dishonor being turned on, it’s still turned off as of https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Dishonor-NOT-turned-on-Dec-2-update/first#post4598461

Some people just que so much they recognize a name on the other team or so and instant ‘my team is going to get rekt’ and they log off to not waste there time.

When they decide to turn on dishonor I will assume ragequit will be minimal. Only at extreme levels, like playing against a team consisting of players quality level as Caed, Karmy, Stunningstyles, Iuck, and Joshua S, while your solo queing.

I sure wouldn’t blame someone for ragequitting even with dishonor turned on against that kind of team, that’s pretty extreme match there, chances to win are, well lets say pretty much nothing. Chances of winning is like finding a needle in a haystack of a barn mile wide 20 feet of hay, yaa good luck with that.

Matter of fact, if I had courtyard with those guys, I’d be like. None of yall leave the entrance because we will lose if you guys leave the entrance. If I saw those guys in que, if we didn’t land courtyard and didn’t get the random chance to determine who wins by timeout and nobody scoring, pretty much count it as a loss and plently of reason for somebody to ragequit if there team is no where near the skill level of those players.

IllegalChocolate.6938:

uberkingkong.8041:

You do play how you want.

It’s just with the developers making this game easymode, repetitive and all. Its just a lot faster to go full dps and breeze through everything.

I mean… They listened to you guys and tried to steer away from the meta by making world bosses harder, like SB more portals, tequatl you have to go through all the phases now, etc.
What you guys do when they tried to make it a bit harder so full dps build isn’t preferred?

You guys whined.

You guys are just as bad as the WvW community.
We want new modes, new things to do, server merges.

They give you exactly what you asked for, EotM, you guys whined.
People even whined about EotM not being like traditional borderlands WvW, they added siege disablers to help people play defense more often. Guess what??? People whined about siege disablers. People whined about EotM changing trends to bag farming instead of karma farming. People still whining about server merges, they merge servers in EotM.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Time-to-merge-populations/page/2#post4602340
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-trend-in-EOTM/page/2#post4597334
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Siege-Disablers-Ruined-the-Game/page/2#post4585398

Also just as bad as the PvP community.
We want deathmatch style games, we want new game modes, people to have to change there build/meta.

They give you EXACTLY what you asked for, Courtyard, you guys whined.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/people-are-leaving-courtyard-on-purpose/first#post4602422
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Why-Courtyard-why/first#post4603253

Nothing but a big bunch of babies whining. They keep listening to you, but your not the right person to listen too. They need to start listening to THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

I believe the context of the thread deals with the dungeon category and the community of said dungeon category, I do not know what EoTM or Tequila has to do with instanced explorable dungeon content.

Well you thought wrong, this thread is in the Guild Wars 2 Discussion, which is about all aspects of GW2 and not just pertaining to Dungeons, if it was meant for Dungeons it would be in the Dungeons tab, if it was for WvW only it would be in the WvW tab.

You do play how you want.

It’s just with the developers making this game easymode, repetitive and all. Its just a lot faster to go full dps and breeze through everything.

I mean… They listened to you guys and tried to steer away from the meta by making world bosses harder, like SB more portals, tequatl you have to go through all the phases now, etc.
What you guys do when they tried to make it a bit harder so full dps build isn’t preferred?

You guys whined.

You guys are just as bad as the WvW community.
We want new modes, new things to do, server merges.

They give you exactly what you asked for, EotM, you guys whined.
People even whined about EotM not being like traditional borderlands WvW, they added siege disablers to help people play defense more often. Guess what??? People whined about siege disablers. People whined about EotM changing trends to bag farming instead of karma farming. People still whining about server merges, they merge servers in EotM.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Time-to-merge-populations/page/2#post4602340
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/New-trend-in-EOTM/page/2#post4597334
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Siege-Disablers-Ruined-the-Game/page/2#post4585398

Also just as bad as the PvP community.
We want deathmatch style games, we want new game modes, people to have to change there build/meta.

They give you EXACTLY what you asked for, Courtyard, you guys whined.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/people-are-leaving-courtyard-on-purpose/first#post4602422
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Why-Courtyard-why/first#post4603253

Nothing but a big bunch of babies whining. They keep listening to you, but your not the right person to listen too. They need to start listening to THE RIGHT PEOPLE.

They do have banker system. Have to get your keep to T3 I believe.

Esc doesn’t work per say.

In pve, playing as a medi guard, targeting something than teleporting near them but not hurting them or on them (slows movement while in combat).

Then you press esc.

Than running by it, your autoattack will still be on that target even if you don’t have it targeted.

Esc needs to stop the autoattack as well.

tichorum.2415:

Excellent feedback. You provided great details on what you’re upset about and why you don’t like it.

Oh theres so much people would complain about.
Courtyard
Skyhammer
Matchmaking
Engineers
Leaderboards

Can never satisfy them can you?
Use to be no new game modes. No deathmatch.
Give them Courtyard, and nothing but whines. People talking about kill enemy 3 times and win? That’s not enough for comeback, 100 times is enough for the player to figure out what he’s doing wrong and start his comeback and get better at the game.

Such a shame baddies cant just run around and neut points and capture points left open and not fight at all and look good on a scoreboard anymore. Maybe another thing someone would complain about.

Remind me of the WvW community too,
We want new maps.More unique ways to play. Server merges.
Give them EotM (meets all criteria’s) and nothing but whines.
‘It ruins the game’
“well this is what you asked for”

Trybil.1567:

First Courtyard pvp today. 500:0. Such fun! I couldn’t even get the leave instance to work. Will have to leave game instead. Maybe if enough people boycott courtyard they will take it out of the lineup.

You guys couldn’t rally together and focus fire on 1 guy to get the 5 points?

Reading that kinda makes me think of wrestling.

Some dude gives you the big boot, knocks you out.
Wake up, cant go anywhere except to fight the guy who knocked you out. Keep fighting a guy who knocks you out in 1 hit for 100 rounds (+5 * 100, 500)

Cant leave, its a STEEL CAGE match!!!
First to 100 KO’s win!!!

I play GW2 tomorrow, don’t change, I want to have some fun.
Also, developers. People wanted Deathmatch style game, let it go for a couple weeks, gather some good research about it. People wanted it, give it some time to melo out and see what the reactions are. People are just not used to Steel cage matches, have to give them some time to adjust to the new game mode that everyone was whining about ‘not enough game modes, no new game modes, etc’.

People get something they asked for (we want deathmatch!) and what? Whine, wasn’t good enough, whine, whine, its not perfect, whine, deathmatch isn’t that fun afterall, whine, I don’t like feeling like a baddie, just let me die 3 times and than they win, I don’t want to get KO’ed 100 times, whine.

Baddies run into Good players… The good players makes baddies bleed out….. Urrrrrraaaaah. Jade Quarry General ‘laughs’
99 more times before I’m threw with you, this is going to be fun for me.
Smashes baddies. Beats chest like King Kong, ROARRRRR. Baddies spawn, slam baddies all around. Beats chest, ROARRRRR. Baddies hide in their base. King Kong climbs up smashes baddies around, CHOKESLAM, throws baddies around like a rag doll, ROARRRRRR!!!!

Funny thing is, sometimes your on the same team with the guy who humiliates you the next game.

Cant wait for this fun.

Thoth Divine.8642:

Dahkeus.8243:

I love everything about the PvP update with this patch…except for courtyard.

It’s a nice map for friends to mess around in, but it just doesn’t work for real queued games.

If ANet really wants to make deathmatch a decent, playable PvP game, then they have to change the game to be more like Arenas in WoW where the game ends when your party wipes instead of the 500 point system where you’ve pretty much lost after the first wipe, but still have to sit through a lopsided game until your team gets heavily farmed enough to fully lose.

Not every game is like this, of course, but it’s waaay too common.

I don’t know why, but I absolutely ASSUMED that’s how it would’ve been implemented. Why the kitten would you have to force people into spawning back to a zerg? It’s pretty clear that after the first wipe your team has lost.

This should be a BO-3 in my opinion. Whichever team wins 2 rounds wins the map, with a full reset after all 5 players are dead. Like in a REAL TDM…

Keep getting owned?
Game really making it known your a baddie?
Game really making it known your team consists of baddies?
RAAAAAAAAAGEQUIT!

At least they don’t have a /hump. For HUMILATION
Cant imagine a game that forces me to get spanked and than keep getting spanked until the other team is satisfied/wins.
“lemme kill ya a few more times and than the game will count me as winning and you can go on your way” “just come to get spanked to death and come back and spanked to death again and come back and don’t resist. It will end fast for you baddie!”

I will be playing GW2 tomorrow and I cannot wait to deliver the pain to people. Hopefully nothing gets changed by then. I’m in a ‘make people RAAAAAGEQUIT type mood’. Hopefully game doesn’t pit me with good players too, I want to be apart of this.

Backpack.8517:

… this game…. please add our old Team q mmr… im tired of playing with and vs bad players… im honestly just gonna have to super pug ever game?? i dont mind steamrolling everyone// but i would prefer if i could just solo q

I want nothing but games where I own baddies, and I’ll vote Courtyard. I enjoy owning baddies.

Dahkeus.8243:

Then blame your ISP, not ANet. Because if you think you should be able to get full points for DCing a game, then coming back, there’s suddenly incentive for people to do this as an exploit and there’s less incentive for people to get their connection issues resolved as best as they can.

So please, take your head out of your own personal perspective for 2 seconds and realize that your bad connection hurts 4 other people more than it hurts yourself.

+1
Don’t play GW2 at your local library or at Starbucks.
This isn’t the 90s, we are 20 years past the 90s the dial up era. Present day, up to what? 50GB connections now? Crazyness.

Grouch going to WTS? Play his engy there, 3 engies on NA. Should be able to win by how op they are. turrets on each node = win

EU and CHN don’t have engies right? turrets win games! Kinda like how americans gave Japanese turrets/gaitling guns and they win against samurai’s.

Best offense defense!

Starting to think NA has a chance now.

Mike.4830:

much worse..like i keep fighting 5 engis that r best engis game… and we all solo q

Was that team Five Gauge, Ostrich Eggs, Darth Vanquisher, Deku God, and Papa Dock?

Ya don’t kitten with that team, they unstoppable, it’s best to wait in base make use of your time by going to forums and write about how they need to get toned down due to being unstoppable.

You want to play solo?
You want to play a game that’s not ranked?

Play hotjoin.

Also, read notes. Unranked Arena. Practice. That means teams are practicing for ranked matches. You want to solo practice go to a hotjoin where everyone is a solo que’er.

Ark.6839:

Any way to fix this? I have 2 connections, both were acting up, but only lagged out for a few seconds and lost all my points.
Also, when’s this mmr going to get fixed? Being pummeled by dragon ranks on just about every match really sucks the fun out of pvp faster than a black hole.

Games are based off of MMR.

The question your asking is how do you stop facing good players (dragon ranks?)
Your a good player, so your going to face other good players.

After you lose a bunch of matches and become a bad player you’ll face bad players.

If you really want to play with bad players, just lose a bunch of matches and you’ll start facing bad players, just be sure to not always win and let the bad players win every now and then. That way you wont be put with the good players anymore.

Or do what I do and try to win every game and let the MMR place me where I should be. This is like the 3rd or 4th time they fixed the algorithm, should be pretty good by now (MMR considers me a good player, which I would say I am pretty good). #faith

You say people are leaving Courtyard on purpose!?!
Guys, have NO FEAR. Dishonor is not on!!

Justin ODell.9517:

Rusc.4978:

Forgive me, Justin, but I’m a little confused. The patch notes are written in a way that implies Dishonor did get implemented, but your response in this thread indicates that it did not, and it does not seem to be in game.

What is currently going on with the Dishonor system?

The patch notes indicate the change to dishonor, not the current configuration state of dishonor.

Justin ODell.9517:

Rusc.4978:

Do we know an approximate time for when it will be implemented?

No, I don’t believe we have anything currently planned. We’ll probably want to regroup and evaluate the current state of the servers before we decide.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Dishonor-NOT-turned-on-Dec-2-update/first#post4598348

Don’t worry guys, PvP will remain populated due to dishonor turned OFF, they cant afford to start forcing people to not play due to bad behavior, not with current population and until the marketing team steps it up and gets people to play #esports #GW2tPvP

Time to start getting those focus groups, IDI’s, surveys, etc. Figure out WHY people don’t tPvP. Why population is low. WHY twitch cannot exceed 3k on the main twitch channel GW2 uses… May have to start thinking about hiring marketing college students who are HUNGRY to make a name for themselves and to show off there dean’s list skills to get GW2 tPvP #esports material. GW2 #esports #1!

Justin ODell.9517:

displacedTitan.6897:

You have to stop people Qing with 4 because its always going to be unfair and not fun for the solos.

That isn’t the only reason. It’s also harder to find a match for them because they can only be paired with solo players, where as solos can pair with 1111, 112, 22, 13, 4.

Have to look at the pros and cons.
Solo players tend to be extremely angry, they have nobody to talk to and if they lose its everybody elses faut, etc.
Team players tend to be less angry, they have somebody to vent too, if they lose it might be there fault or they cant talk about it.

Having a system based on promoting teamplay encourages competition and hypes up the competitiveness of the game due to a lot of teams to look out for.

Having a system that promotes people to party with one another does a couple things, gets people to make friends, chances to win games is higher, feel urge to logon because your friends are online.

Having a system that promotes people to solo does a couple bad things like, nobody makes friends (they all just tell there teammates they suck), chances to win games aren’t that great unless your a preppy popular kid, urge to logon isn’t there because you have nobody to look forward to talk too.

If you have solo que system people will use it, and thus not create friends, this single system is better even though it has some cons like some people just outright refuse to be miserable and have no friends and wont party with somebody else and argue on forums how they hate the system.

Some players think they too good and will only group with people better or equal, and if there a preppy popular kid, its kinda hard to get full team because they have no incentive to keep playing after making it to the top so they will vent too because they want to pvp but there friends equal or better aren’t on because lack of incentive (leaderboard issue, needs to encourage people who play a lot to knock people off…. Making losing less harsh, as in you lose instead of going down 100 spots, you go down 33 spots. You win you go up 100 spots. You also need to calculate rating. And also how many games it takes to knock people from being 3rd rank, win 5 games in a row become 1st rank even though that first rank guy never plays anymore. I remember somebody being 2nd rank long time ago, he won 15 games and STILL 2nd rank, 1st rank guy never played any games, that 2nd rank guy had everything to lose by continue playing rather than something to gain. That should not be the case, it should encourage you to keep playing and not stop playing.)

DaveGan.8065:

Justin ODell.9517:

I’m really curious as to how you guys are figuring out if the other team is a pre-made. We don’t tell you, and looking at the data there are very few party rosters compared to solo.

Is it just match quality being bad? Are you just recognizing player names?

So I just queued unranked arena match after coming back from work.

Queue pops in 15 seconds (good)
Courtyard, Kyhlo, and Temple. I vote Temple.
…6 votes for Courtyard (gg premade)

See attached screenshot for result

Epic team comp, thanks Obama!
Going off of the PvP titles I saw on teammates/opponents I presume at least MMR was okay.
Only one person on blue got any rank points, and that was because I brought warbanner.

What should be done? Maybe we can start with one or more of these:

• Ensure premades never face non-premades, and perhaps also eliminate a party of 4 from queueing
• Remove Courtyard from the map selection, at least when it is premade vs non-premade
• Give each party exactly one vote (so a party of 4-5 has only one vote for a map)

tl;dr—Matchmaking evidently failed, as it took about 15 seconds to match a solo queue with a premade (or near full premade)

Courtyard + premades spawncamping ensured my 4 teammates got zero rank points for playing.

Eliminate premade vs non-premade, remove Courtyard, or give each party exactly one map vote

Dude stop whining, its unranked, which is what ‘Practice’ really is. Hotjoin is ‘Fun’, if its any practice its 1v1 practice. Unranked is like the ‘Team Practice’.

Maybe you just had a team full of people testing things out and you was the one really trying.

This is an MMORPG you gotta play with others, make friends with others.
You can talk about how you enjoy playing solo and bs, but fact is, you would rather play with friends, you just aint got any and refuse to even try even though its much more fun playing with friends.

Yall need to stop soloing all the time and invite good players to que again with you and invite more good players to que with you until you have a full party and if people leave then invite good players to que up with you and eventually youll have an active pvp friendlist and wont worry about queing solo.

I’m glad there is some kind of advantage of queing with others, you should get an advantage, it should get people to want to party with one another and actually make pvp fun.

Only thing that needs to hold its own is the leaderboards. The developers need to get those preppy popular kids to keep playing as well. The developers need to make losing less harsh, as in if you lose you go down 33% of the way, if you win you go 100% of the way. This way people are more inclined to CONTINUE playing when they have a good leaderboard spot rather than STOP playing due too, ‘I might face good players and not look good anymore… since I got lucky to get this far.’. Making losing less harsh is a good thing.

Maybe you should build an arrow cart and eliminate the disablers.

Throw a temporal portal where they would leave inner base to outer base and then eliminate them after you forced them out of there base.

Androlan.9487:

I played solo queue tonight and most of the matches were really one sided. It was easy to recognize the premade teams and that was almost all of them. I agree that solo queue should stay solo queue and team queue as team.

Maybe you should invite whoever was good on your team to a party and keep inviting other good players and actually play with others for once.

Ya but people that duo, trio, or quadro want a place too.

What if you had a friend? You’d think differently.

Sorel.4870:

uberkingkong.8041:

More people want deathmatch removed than added.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Remove-Courtyard-from-every-mode/first#post4598246

Well that’s a bold assumption to make on the very night the patch came out! Let’s think about it. People complain because they played on Courtyard. It means that some people liked it, if they voted for it! I would also like to see more DM maps, but on a separate queue, to use different builds and comps.

Ya they voted it because there team was a Courtyard team. Kinda like how some people claim ‘my team is going to be Skyhammer and we all will vote Skyhammer’.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Skyhammer-in-Compete-tPvP/first#post4596730

More people want deathmatch removed than added.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Remove-Courtyard-from-every-mode/first#post4598246

Elitist.8701:

Just has a match with 3 Thieves followed by a match with 2 Mesmers. WTF I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE FIXED!!!!!!!!! ANET!!!!!!!

You should know by now.

Pic’s or it didn’t happen.

Didn’t they teach you how to support your argument which you are claiming, you don’t just ramble, you show evidence.

Brian.1025:

uberkingkong.8041:

Brian.1025:

So is the ranking system now based on professions now? Like someone can’t farm with a thief then queue with a class they never played with?

Something about, it looks at your W/L ratio on your thief, if you play thief bad (loss a lot) it will count you as a bad MMR player.

But when you play your turret engineer, man oh man you do so good (win a lot), its going to count you as a really good player MMR wise.

Pretty good system I think, because I sure don’t play every profession as good as I do on my best (100% AR sumo engy, RIP).

Oh thank god.
I’m not good by any means, but i can tell when people are queued with a brand new class they haven’t tried before, basically making it 4v5

For best matchmaking results your pie chart should look something similar to mine.

So looking at mine, if I play an engineer I’d be setup with good players, but if I go guardian I will be setup with baddies. Although previous matchmaking set me up against good players. And my W/L record on guardian is pretty good so far, above 50%.

Brian.1025:

So is the ranking system now based on professions now? Like someone can’t farm with a thief then queue with a class they never played with?

Something about, it looks at your W/L ratio on your thief, if you play thief bad (loss a lot) it will count you as a bad MMR player.

But when you play your turret engineer, man oh man you do so good (win a lot), its going to count you as a really good player MMR wise.

Pretty good system I think, because I sure don’t play every profession as good as I do on my best (100% AR sumo engy, RIP).

vincecontix.1264:

Harbinger.8637:

I was able to get into one ranked game fairly fast, but after that I’m having no luck. I’m not going to wait around for +15 mins for a game.

Me also, got my first match fast next match 15+mins and still waiting ;(

Gotta wait for people around your MMR to que up.

You guys wanted longer wait times for better matches, well you got it.
8 rangers and 2 eles queing up at sametime, obviously its not going to set you up with a game, its not a balanced game.

No longer the IT’s fault, now its the marketing developer fault. Not enough people playing PvP, than he’s not marketing it out to get people to play.

Lack of updates? You guys pretty much got a whole new zone with unique gamestyles, called EotM.

They haven’t done anything drastic to PvP scene, I say get those WvW developers to work for PvP side and get some new maps and unique playstyles created.

WvW community is spoiled, they get something but it wasn’t big enough, wasn’t good enough, nothing but spoiled brats.

Justin ODell.9517:

Let me know how that works out for you.

I love this response,
basically saying “bring it on, B#@!$”

Funny how all these guys think you anet developers are dumb.
They don’t get paid big bucks, YOU get paid big bucks, obviously its because you guys at anet are highly intelligent.

Theres like thousands of people trying to get jobs in video game industry, did they get in??? nope. yall at anet got in though.

Only department I think is lacking is the Marketing department, they need to STEP IT UP and seriously start putting into place the Marketing Mix and start PENETRATING those target markets, soo much potential out there, just have to penetrate it hard enough to reap the rewards, they need to be on the same level as the IT and human resources department.

Psy can get 1 to 2 billion people to watch his youtube video, obviously HUGE HUGE HUGE amounts of money to be made. Having a tiny percentage of the target market means YOU doing something wrong. Time for some new marketing plans, and this game is only getting older, time to put in serious amounts of hours to be successful.

Sogradde.8016:

ANet ruined our server with their stupid system. We don’t have many WvW guilds left but we cannot acquire new guilds since we’re a high population server according to the gem price. This is thanks to all the PvE casuals who don’t want to and don’t have to leave the server due to megaserver shenanigans.

Funny, do you really think your server is overpopulated?

I go into those megaservers and ask what server you from I always get an answer ‘Jade Quarry’.

If anything your server is overpopulated with inactive players, unlike a T1 PvP, PvE, WvW, PvX server like Jade Quarry with high population of active players, its not too late to join a REAL server.

Don’t bother transferring and transferring go to a real server…. Jade Quarry.

You don’t hear things like this instance is being taken over by BlackGate or Tarnished Coast for Tequatl daily, Jade Quarry runs those, just like how we run T1 WvW, and recent statistics SHOW top tier PvP’ers are going to Jade Quarry as well. If you cant beat the best, JOIN THEM.

Also, the guild chatter too, several guilds 490+ active members on Jade Quarry. Does your server have several guilds like that??? NOPE. Puny servers.

Good thing there is such thing as a savior to WvW called Edge of the Mists, to save all your puny servers by allowing them to teamup with Jade Quarry and reap the benefits of winning alongside with Jade Quarry.

If you teamed with Jade Quarry in EotM, don’t tag up unless you Jade Quarry, only follow Jade Quarry commanders. You just be wasting your time if you following some puny server commander. Let a server that knows how to run raids do the commanding.

Odd, http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Engineer_-_Double_Kit_Condi refers to Rabid amulet.

Odd, http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Ranger_-_Read_the_Wind_Power_Ranger refers to Berzerker amulet.

Odd, http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Mesmer_-_Double_Ranged_Shatter refers to Berzerker amulet.

More ‘Meta’ builds still referring to Berzerker amulet (as you can see they been updated recently.

I know all you guys refer to this site for meta builds so we have to go off of that site for what is considered ‘meta’.

Odd, theres no Skyhammer builds. All those preppy popular kids not uploading those builds because they enjoy watching you whine about Skyhammer due to getting wreckt by there skills and superior advantage of being able to adapt to another build while many peasants don’t know how to make a build besides copying off a website.