Guild Wars 2

You know most of my losing recently is really due to,

Daily X Winner

I’m a champion of all the classes, but when you play Guardian for a long time, and haven’t played Thief or Warrior in a year, you tend to lose a lot of games due to it.

My Anger Rising when I lose due to daily of having to win at something I haven’t played it in a long time or a profession I’m the worst at.

I collect 5 losses by time I actually win a game due to forced to play as a profession I don’t play.

Now I’m not saying I’m a terrible warrior atm, because when I completed the Champion Legionarre I was a really good warrior due to continuous play of warrior, but since I haven’t played warrior in so long all I have to say is,

Hambow is too slow, does no damage, highly suspectible to conditions, isn’t very good and just gets owned.

Right now, what I’m good at is Medi Guard, but there is no daily that encourages you to get better at what you play at.

The most messed up thing is, when I do, do the Win game as X profession, it STILL matches me with really really good players, the game remembers how good I was 1 year ago and assumes I’m STILL that good, until I lose like 5-10 games.

GW2 algorithm needs to INCLUDE, wiping data from a month old.
If you haven’t played a warrior in a month, don’t expect that person to play warrior 100 wins 0 losses like he did a year ago.
The algorithm should expect the person to play warrior very bad, it should put the person play warrior at the bottom of the matchmaking level.
Wipe matchmaking data from a month or later out, data should only be assume someone is good if they’ve played recently, not from a year ago.

Currently on a 6 game loss streak, due to being forced to play as a Warrior.
And this matchmaking registering me as an amazing warrior expecting me to carry everyone and be better than other good players, expecting me to play at the highest levels. I haven’t played a warrior in soo long, yet another flaw in the matchmaking system of Flaw Wars 2.

I mean serious, these guys get paid so much, and yet they mess up a billion times.

Imagine if they was in college,

The developer F’s a paper.
‘Oh you can try again’
F’s it again.
‘Oh we give you a million tries to get it right’
Hundreds of more F’s.

Cant even get it right, people shouldn’t be on massive losing streaks. Especially people that have played the game, I know where to go and all, but when I’m expected to carry my team against very good players, I cant win a dime, especially when they also expect me to carry as a profession I haven’t played on in forever.

I’m on a losing streak right now, 8 games lost because I’m playing a warrior, it’s very frustrating I don’t know how any sane person can go through my losses, ITS NO WONDER WHY PvP population is so bad, because crap matchmaking.

Game STILL doesn’t realize I’m not a really good warrior and still pitting me against good players.

Good ahead and say I suck, but if I’m running a meta build warrior build, and not winning games, what do you think the average joe runs and not win games, how many games do you think the average joe takes before he says enough is enough and QUITS PvP, due to terrible matchmaking where he losses so many games because the system thought he was good.

Takes 8 losses just for the system to finally say, enough is enough and give me a no brainer win.

See how stacked the team I’m on.
I haven’t played warrior in forever, thanks for making me look bad on leaderboards anet. Thanks for thinking I’m an amazing warrior like I was, during the HAMBOW meta, before you nerfed it. I cant be amazing after a nerf.

Just like my sumo engineer, YES anet I was amazing engineer, but you nerfed my build, so stop thinking I’m amazing.

Right now Medi Guardian is still pretty good, so its okay to think I’m an amazing Medi Guardian because I am, but all those builds you NERFED, I’m not good at those professions anymore….

MAYBE if you stopped CHANGING
CHANGING
CHANGING
CHANGING
CHANGING
The traits and balance.
TWO YEARS later, STILL CHANGING kitten….. STILL TERRIBLE SYSTEM.

A veteran playing eating up 8 losses, SERIOUSLY???

Time to relieve some stress, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyon0gtM5w

Haven’t had any real bad streaks lately, like 8 is probably the biggest.
However my games are looking like, L L L W L L L L L L L W W L L L L L L L L L L W.
Is losing majority of games frustrating? YUP.
Prior to this new system I had 49.9% solo que win rate, before that solo que system I had 56% win rate. Currently at 42%.

So I’m not really liking this new system. Also, the players I keep getting que’ed with are end game PvP’ers.

Game likes to pit me against the good players too. I’ve noticed I played against Thee Faux like 10 times, but all 10 of those games were against him. The only player I tend to get on the same team with is Ostrich Eggs, sometimes Zoose (and it isn’t no blowout win, we still struggle, but win most of the times I’ve had one of them on my team). Also, Drunknpossum, is always on the other team too, I played against him a lot, and I don’t think I’ve ever won a game against Thee Faux or Drunknpossum.

Why do you downgrade yourself?

This leaderboard is nothing but good.

It gives the community to see real players, that perform good.

If you can solo que and have such a great win loss percentage that’s better than some premades stomping solo que’s, premades avoiding other good players to manipulate the leaderboard.

This guy and Thee Faux are really good players, I haven’t seen neither of them in any ESL or WTS, and I’ve faced some of those so called ‘best engineers’, but when I face Thee Faux I’m more scared to go against him, than those so called ‘best engineers’.

Because that guy seriously carries and you have to be really good to seriously carry.
Drunknpossum whenever I face him, people on my team always think he’s in a full premade. If people think your in a premade and your solo que, that means your hella good.

So stop downgrading yourself, just because nobody wanted you on there team and you don’t compete in ESL or WTS doesn’t mean your worse than those that do compete in them.

SYPHA.9283:

REGGADO.1237:

Then they should make achievements for losing in pvp. /miss newpvp achivements

They have that in place…..it’s called the leaderboards. just look at the rank 5 player…more losses than wins…cant play for kitten and is rewarded with a top spot. lmfao gg anet

Some people don’t ever party, ever.

This new ranked que’s if you don’t ever party your likely to get a worse than average ratio.

Called keep facing premades, keep facing trio and duo que’s.

I have a bad ratio, and its defiantly not because I suck. Its because I haven’t partied, ever, since the implementation.

You need to stop looking at numbers and look at the reasoning pal.

Happy New Years!!!

Anet system matches you with a team vs a team.

One team is expected to win
The other team is expected to lose

If your expected to lose and you win you get +2 or +3 leaderboard points.
If your expected to win and you win you get +1 leaderboard points.
If your expected to lose and lose you get +1 0 -1 leaderboard points.
If your expected to win and you lose you get -2 -3 leaderboard points.

I actually like this leaderboard, because its a long term leaderboard, and when seasons come if they use the same leaderboard it would be good.

Eventually the top players will get up there, because they just keep getting +1 +1, no -1 -2.

Also, it rewards those that play, even if you farm and you suck, you wont be in the top. But if you farm and your good, for example Thee Faux. Than you will be at the top.

I like this a lot better than 10 wins 0 losses sit my kitten on leaderboard and get rewarded for it.

You should be required to put effort to being on the top of the leaderboard it shouldn’t just be 10 wins 0 losses no more games for a month, and now I’m top 25. This actually rewards people who put effort into it and are good at the same time, and those are the kind of people that should be rewarded.

This new leaderboard decreases leaderboard manipulation and is more accurate than the old leaderboard.
As in those preppy popular kids and there 2+ accounts cant just win 10 games and lose 0 and have 2 accounts on the leaderboard. This leaderboard is more focused towards playing 1 account, thus more accurate due to people playing 15 games and getting lucky wont appear on top 100 or people who play 2 accounts or more will have a lot more harder time getting in the top 100.

This leaderboard is a good indication of actual players playing PvP and those that are good at it too as in being in the top 25.

This leaderboard actually means more than the old leaderboard because you cant cheat it, no luck involved, nothing but skill.

No more playing at odd hours and cheating the leaderboard by getting easy wins. You want your +2 or +3, you gotta face equal skill teams. To all those high and mighty chest pounding players, there’s people out there just as good as you, so don’t think its impossible for you to get a +2 or +3 either.

One last thing, this leaderboard discourages dc’s and it is easily noticed on the leaderboard. If you have a lot of wins but your points isn’t where it should be… Than that means you dc a lot, and yes I count swapping toons in middle of game dc’ing because those people kitten up rotations and I’ve been having a lot of games with kittened up rotations, not due to dc but due to idiots going far thinking they win, but we lose mid and the people at mid go far and stomp you too. If you cant win far in 30 seconds, don’t go far.

Sol.4310:

Here is good E.g. Map was FoeFire Turret Engineer was other side of the map he left his turrets on our home point, I was full glass Zerker. Took me month of Sundays to kill by the time I had finally gotten the Thumper turret down the Engineer was back. Was so stupid I was already at 50% life just from his Ai killing me.

Felt like I was doing PvE and suddenly PK’er turned up. Was so stupid.

If anything Thumper Turret should take Critical Damage. Bloody stupid how Turret’s aren’t effect by anything bar base damage.

To beat Turret Engi you gotta kill there Turret’s now picture what it must be like for Condition Build, doing almost no damage to turret’s. Mean while Spirit’s take everything like a boss. Also I don’t want Spirit’s buffed so sick of being forced to play a build I hate.

Totally this,

is why I make this post, some engy left his thumper turret on the home node. Even with 25 stacks of might, that thing was hardly taking any damage and the healing it has was better than my dps. I capped the node, but that thumper turret he left, was still at 100% hp even though I wasted all my cooldowns on it.

Than I tried a spirit ranger because win a ranger daily. I come, within 5 seconds of the fight all my spirits are dead. And I’m not even in the middle of the fight, it’s as if they die so fast, nobody even needs to focus them because when they get tickled they drop dead.

All my utilities now on cooldown. Spirit ranger completely useless without his spirits.
But engineer? His turrets so strong don’t have to worry about his turrets going away, don’t have to worry about his utilities becoming completely useless due to all turrets destroyed.

Now if engineer was actually repairing his turret and that’s the reason why they so hard to kill, I’d be fine with that, but leaving it in middle of nowhere and its impossible to kill, now that just needs some toning down.

Spirit ranger has to worry about his spirits.
But a turret engineer, they don’t worry about there turrets, turrets too op, they focus on the enemy unlike the spirit ranger who is constantly worrying about if his spirits will survive being tickled or not.

What I find really messed up is how a Thumper Turret, can withstand 3 people smacking it or 1 person can never even destroy it.

Yet with a spirit ranger, 1 person can completely destroy all the spirits instantly.

Now what is the logic behind this anet?

Engineer has 1 skill Thumper Turret, so strong that 1 person cannot even destroy it by focusing on it. (traited for turrets???) (too much armor, and it heals itself, didn’t even have engineer around, he just left his thumper turret and I was amazed at how strong it was, couldn’t even destroy it and said f it)
Spirit ranger 5 skills (spirits) all die without being focused. (fully traited for spirits)
Ranger pet dies without being focused.

WTF????
Yes engineers need some toning down.
That or rangers specifically spirit rangers needs toning up.

Personally I’m waiting for EQNext,
I hope its good, and it looks like it will be good however,
going to play it regardless if it sucks, just like how I’m playing GW2.
#BURN!!!

All I see is a leaderboard, nothing indicating who is on whose team.

Don’t understand what you’re asking for.

Also, why do u use external link to post an image, you can post images straight from your computer using the forums, just like I did.

In basketball, in order to make games fair, you would go through a selection of picking who you want on your team.

Too bad anet a 5v5 just like basketball doesn’t use the same system of fairness that is found in basketball.

Ya theres, The Elder Scrolls Online.

They even have World vs World too!

Finally got all my champion titles!

Who else is in the all champion PvP titles unlocked club??

Yup well rounded now, I can 1v1 anyone do anything, all champion titles unlocked.

#GetSum

Tired of HotM? just go into HotM and leave, leave que.
Then a que will magically pop up asking if u want to PvP even though you left it.

You should know by now that the PvP developer leaves a lot of things broken, so you know dishonor? Expect it not to work or come back.
You leave que??? Nope, you still in it. Expect que system to be broken.

Terrorsquad.2349:

uberkingkong.8041:

Are there any PvP guilds out there?
No

Should there be?
Yes

Teams that run under a guild name I don’t consider communities or guilds.
You cant join them, they just showing off there team.

GASM is probably the closest you’ll get to a community.
Being OP is hard I think use to be a community.

Well EU has ‘many’ PvP guilds though. We got ReVo, ZeuS, tpvp, WEED, misc and some others I can’t think off atm.
All depends what Region OP is though

Oh I know EU is more active in the PvP scene than NA.
Most builds I used were EU builds because it’s hard to find videos of active NA pvp builds.

I wish NA had more in the PvP community, but we just have GASM, and from what I get from the community, people don’t like them but they are the only ones trying to get something going.

I think this is one of the reasons why a lot of people from NA quit, because lack of community.

Are there any PvP guilds out there?
No

Should there be?
Yes

Teams that run under a guild name I don’t consider communities or guilds.
You cant join them, they just showing off there team.

GASM is probably the closest you’ll get to a community.
Being OP is hard I think use to be a community.

ArrDee.2573:

Abjured has been around just as long as TCG have! Maybe longer! These players have been playing together for quite a long time! They were just never on a team together though 3/5 Abjured members have been on a team together years ago and were one of the top teams on NA!

The rest of your post is just random drivel! Get good son!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Nope, rest of it is a point that the best team out there runs 2 eles 2 engi’s, because they too op to run any other classes.

infantrydiv.1620:

My minimum ping when playing GW2 is something like 200ms. Half the time its closer to 300, and I’ve seen it go over 800 for extended periods. When I play WoW its like 40-50, so I don’t think it’s my internet.

This is technically the wrong forum to ask in I guess, but ping doesn’t really matter that much for other parts of the game.

Be closer to where anet hosts there games are.
If your in Washington and Anet is in Florida, then of course your not going to have as good as ping as WoW being in Washington and your in Washington as well.

Another thing make sure your not running IE explorer in the background, also make sure no one else is using your internet connection.

One last thing, direct internet connection is better than wireless.

I think a lot of the issues are in unranked.

Because in ranked I’m getting mostly close games, although a few bad bad games but most of times are good games. Just had an epic game not too long ago. Game ended due to timeout, was getting really heated!

For example, WTS videos, there is none of them for China.

Another example, top 100 players, https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Top-100-Players-from-each-previous-leaderboard, China is not listed.

Another example, https://leaderboards.guildwars2.com/en/na/pvp, there is a tab for North America and Europe, China again not listed.

PvP commadation track.

If there is currently one thing that PvE’ers can do that PvP’ers cant do, is that they can get ascended accessories, and amulets via guild commadation.

You should be able to get them through PvP. Perhaps they give other things as well, but for ascended gear it should take like 3-5 times going through the reward track.

Being able to get ascended accessories and amulets via PvP would greatly increase the amount of people that would come over from PvE WvW to play PvP. A lot of people have decked out ascended rings, but when it comes to accessories and amulets, they aren’t fully decked out and I’m sure would love more options and ways to get them and PvP would be a great way.

Another idea that came to mind is that, PvE and WvW have ascended infusions for them. However PvP doesn’t have any infusions for it, and I’m suggesting +% reward track with a +% gold or a +% magic find, heck maybe a +% double crit (get two of the rewards instead of one!)

YourFriendMarvin.4127:

I’ve been playing less, because the incentive from PvP only comes from ESL, and other big tournaments. Honestly the top will continue to win those tournaments, until another team steps up their game. The leaderboard at the moment is based on how much games you win. Top 250 gets a Mini Llama, good for the casuals who don’t have it yet. I already have like 4, and a few others who don’t need another one. As much as the top 5-25 for glorious armor goes, that is nice, but the armor doesn’t appeal to me so much (personal opinion).

There needs to be a Division Bracket system to have a representation of who is still new to the best at the game, and with unique rewards/milestones for each bracket. I barely do team queues anymore, because you’re mostly farming new players or disorganized teams. It’s a bad habbit, and will often create lax routines. The only good teams are the top teams and super pugs from those top teams that give a challenge. Also the people I use to play with in tourneys a lot don’t play, so it isn’t fun and not the same. The synergy and vibe isn’t there, which is why I haven’t been on a team in a while.

I’ve been getting back into breakdancing (b-boy4life), because I miss dancing and it is a good way to relieve stress

I have been playing a bit of LoL (Poro King ARAM)/DotA (The Superior Moba)/Tera (New Content)/Dance Dance Revolution (DDR)/Streetfighter/Super Smash Brothers Melee.

I log onto GW2 to catch up on whatever content comes up, dailys, fractals, fool around in pvp for a bit. Then the game goes stale.

I’ll admit the game has the best combat fluidity, but it just lacks the content that the other MMO’s give. Which is why I haven’t quit the game yet. The game seriously needs a big expansion.

Have to agree with this guy.
Game does lack a lot of content.
Also, that vibe to actually party with others is kinda not there anymore although this system is similar to an older system, I think everyone is just sooo used to soloing that they don’t even look at partying or trying to do it anymore.

As far as leaderboards, maybe some content would be an actual arenanet hosted in game tournament on say Friday. And it gave out 100 leaderboard points to the victors, and give some points to participants and everyone gets an exotic reward and victors ascended chest or something good but not too good.

Not only would those top players stop whining its all about grinding, but the casuals would have more than usual reason to actually try and form parties.

Obviously they’d have to add other stuff in game to make it so people keep playing, it used to be to grind rank out, but everyone that grinded is pretty much max already. I’m pretty sure marvin is already fully achieved in pvp competitor, theres like nothing left for him to do. There should always be something to do and if theres nothing left to do than the developers are slacking and need to figure out other things to do to keep people involved. As in more content like he said.

You know with this new system I kinda feel like spectating has gone down hill. You need to bring it back. I think ranked games should be spectated. People just going to have to deal with some teams having other people helping them out.

Sports are spectated live, esports/ ranked games should be too. You need a star rating system too. This game its kinda hard to tell whose playing and bond with other people. Seeing same people play again and again eventually you become friends with them and or rivals, spectating makes this easy.

Theres so many other things this game could be doing too. This isn’t the place to post them all, and you developers should be steps ahead of the community, we shouldn’t be to the point where we are burnt out and you don’t realize it, you should be ahead of us and keep adding more content when you notice we get burnt out.

Also, I haven’t seen any dev’s play recently. Use to hear stories about them playing, but never hear any rumors like that anymore. You guys should be involved in your own game.

As a lot of other people say, this game has so much potential, so much this game can do to make it better. Sad seeing it not happen.

Still getting good games. Don’t see problem with matchmaking.
See this close game?
Pretty much all my games been like this post patch except for game where I had one leaver and we still won.

Sebastian.4610:

uberkingkong.8041:

To be honest I’ve been playing a lot more.
This new daily is quite nice reward wise, I’ve been experiencing a lot more closer games, and the leaderboards give me a chance to actually make it to top 25 so the incentive for me to play is there.

Before this patch, I was getting on crazy losing streaks, 17 games in a row. I’ve been getting better games post patch. I’ve shown the evidence as well.

I don’t make up no bullkitten.

It doesnt bother you that the leaderboard has nothing to do with skill? its dominated by mediocre or less than players with more time on their hands then anything.

Nope, because I play a lot and some of those people on that top 25, I see often. I’m glad they get rewarded finally. Those skillful players, they may be good, but I RARELY see them. There needs to be some kind of incentive to get them to actually play more so I can see them. Like Phantaram, never seen that dude in game EVER. Supposeably he’s been to every kind of tournament NA, but…. NEVER SEEN him in game in a pvp game.

Now what does bother me is dishonor being off. First game I encountered post patch where we had a leaver. Thankfully everyone on my team was really good. They all knew what the kitten to do. Also wasn’t that great of a match either, but I guess that guy leaving made it somewhat even lol.

But back to point. If your really that amazing, and people haven’t seen you in the actual game, do you really deserve to be top 25 on leaderboard? Sure you may be good, but you don’t ever play. Its good how it recognizes people that do play. It’s not completely based of who plays the most so don’t gimme that “its a grinding thing now.”

People just want an easy way to make it to the top. If your good, than go win games, at the right time, face other good players, and make yourself known on the leaderboard by doing so.

Archaon.9524:

I just leave this here

Solo in ranked que ofc…thanks god you solved class stacking problems at least ._.

I noticed that too yesterday except with warriors.
They need to change that daily to play a hotjoin as class x and win. Not just plain and simple win at any gamemode because they will go to ranked game and mess it all up. If you want people to play a ranked game just say play a ranked game and win.

To be honest I’ve been playing a lot more.
This new daily is quite nice reward wise, I’ve been experiencing a lot more closer games, and the leaderboards give me a chance to actually make it to top 25 so the incentive for me to play is there.

Before this patch, I was getting on crazy losing streaks, 17 games in a row. I’ve been getting better games post patch. I’ve shown the evidence as well.

I don’t make up no bullkitten.

Kako.1930:

Guardian: Block block block block, evade, heal, evade, heal, block block block block, invulnerable, invulnerable invulnerable, block block block, heal, evade, heal, evade, heal, block block block, blind, block……….

A good bunker guardian can keep quite a few people occupied for a good amount of time in the average fight. :P

So false,
I see a lot of that more with an engineer.
Thing is they got extra stuff that further allows them to stall players, like that rifle 3 knockback. kitten needs some toning down. Its like they can time all there skills perfectly so you cant do kitten to them.

Engineer rifle 3 needs to be like guardian hammer knockback. Needs a long kitten cast time, so you can clearly see it coming.

Also, if I’m not mistaken that kitten knocks you off node too. If guardian hammer was as smooth as the engineer rifle 3, you’d see a lot more guardians running around with a hammer, but since its so kitten slow and pretty much gets avoided every single time, nobody uses that kitten.

Tone down engineer rifle 3 or tone up guardian hammer knockback.

Also, that engineer wrench kit block. Should not be able to move while blocking attacks. If anything, the warrior should only be able to block attacks while moving using a shield.

Engineers aren’t suppose to be the strongest class where they can move around with a shield, that’s suppose to be a warrior.
Engineers aren’t suppose to be running around splashing water and curing condi’s like your condi’s don’t mean nothing to him, that’s suppose to be an elementalist.

Tone those engineers down.
Note, I mentioned NOTHING about celestial amulet scapegoat bullkitten. Only mentioned engineers.

Sebastian.4610:

“competitive” ranked pvp is basically a casual leaderboard grind for mediocre players. Players with more time then skill will dominate the board leaving the actual good players wondering what the kitten?

They should make a community rating system then.
The star system I mentioned in another thread.
If you really want the community to know your good, than go ahead and dominate the game and make people give you 5 stars to indicate that you shouldn’t be put against them. Also to indicate/flag this player is extremely good, mmr carefully place this player in matchmaking.

If you got 2 5 stars queing at same time they’ll both be on different teams more likely because game registers, ‘hey we got two extremely good players rated by community, lets watch and see who wins so they will be on different teams’. Current mmr, doesn’t really know, it only goes off its statistical data that what the system thinks, it doesn’t have any data by actual humans indicating there skill level, therefore the star system would place people into mmr better. So in theory in the current system, those 5 star players if there was a community ranking system could be placed together (all the players that did influence the game wins placed together) and the system might think other people (people that got carried) were the 5 star players and therefore uneven matchup due to bad data. Human data, human ratings are the best data.

Also, you’d see what the community thinks is a good player and my hypothesis is that those that you think are good, wont have as good as a rating by the community because if the community never sees you due to you playing at odd hours to make yourself look good on old leaderboards, they’ll never rate you.

Another thing, it’d be nice to see what player rates other players and who rates you what.. Like if I wanted to see if player x thought was good because I think hes good I can see his rate history. And I can see what others rated him because maybe I think hes bad but others say hes good.

There needs to be a community driven leaderboard for what you want to see skill wise. I think this current leaderboard is good if its running how I think its running by awarding points off tough matches rather than super premades facing bunch of newbs and becoming top leaderboard player because of it. This game needs to encourage top teams to face other top teams in the actual game and not only in those big tournaments. Needs to encourage people to play real games and not cheat the system.

Diva.1476:

uberkingkong.8041:

See developers, I told ya if you made losing less harsh people wouldn’t get so angry anymore.

All yall need to start listening to the ‘right’ people.

You know how the community says ‘pvp population is tiny’, well the old leaderboards with that tiny pvp population, some people that did play a lot of games, struggled to be on the leaderboards due to old leaderboard being full of garbage, people win 2 games and sit on leaderboard no more.

I like this leaderboard because its more active and good result. Tired of pug accounts hogging up space. Makes it so you have to focus on one account and not somebody trying to make anet look bad by getting all 10 of his accounts on leaderboard and than have 9 of them go inactive just to stall players.

This new leaderboard really gets the ‘tiny pvp population’ on the leaderboards and ranks people in a good manner as well.

Yeah and the best part is, you have to keep earning points which gets you going and actively play matches to stay in the leaderboards, slackers will now be thrown out quick

Yup, I like this because the old leaderboard was filled with 2nd and 3rd accounts of people just showing how many times they can win and therefore took up space on the leaderboard and you didn’t get the real pvp community on the leaderboards, with this leaderboard you’ll see those people you play against in game on the leaderboards which is good because it gives you an idea of where you are compared to them and sense of competition with them.

Also, the old leaderboard I’d see some people I’ve never seen play on it. All that tells me is that they play at odd hours and avoid playing against other good players to make it seem like they are the best, but fact is they just farm newbs at hours. This new leaderboard rewards you on the quality of games you have, which is defiantly a plus.

It gives people a feeling that its possible to get to the top 25, unlike what it was before, felt impossible, why bother trying, which is bad for the pvp community. When people don’t pvp because they assume everyone is better than them so why bother trying, you don’t get more players to enter the pvp scene. Like the big tournaments they’ve been doing, its nothing but rerunned players playing against same people again. None of the other hundred thousand players decided to give it a try. Why? Most likely due to feeling like it was impossible. Now that they make things feel possible you’ll see an increase in the community. Now that they make points rated off games, you’ll see more competition in the community outside those big tournaments.

Nothing but good changes were made.

Somewhere between turret engineer and elementalist.

Both have extreme amounts of condi cleanse. Although elementalist is known for it, engineers somehow obtained it and I’m sure it wasn’t intended for engineers to have such good condi cleanse. A lot better condi cleanse than guardian that’s for sure. Also the amount of knockbacks and utilities they have as well.

2 things needs to get toned down about engineer.
Rifle
Water splashing thing they do (they think they ele’s but they aint)

Dustin.2793:

Front leaderboard page, just lol xD

Somebody just mad they aint on it.

Sorry but avoiding good players and only playing against newbs doesn’t bring you to top 25 anymore.

Playing 2 games a week doesn’t keep you up there anymore either.

Nothing but good changes on this leaderboard.

I’m glad it works something like you play during primetime win 3 games get +2s and +3s and lose 2 games and get +1 so 5 games total be +8 or +9 and +2, +10 or +11 total.

While those preppy popular kids farming newbies at odd hours, play 5 games, win all 5 and get +1, making them +5.

You play against crap you get crap results on leaderboard.
You play against good players, you get good results on leaderboard.

Yall need to stop whining you don’t have the easymode out anymore.

You know ostrich eggs? well I’ve had a few run ins with him during solo que, he plays during primetime. Guess what hes on the top 25. He don’t farm newbies all day. And he doesn’t have a perfect score so don’t go around thinking you better than everyone else because you won WTS. He won WTS too and he’s been beaten a few times.
Those people with 20+ wins 0 losses, bunch of baloney. Nothing but newb farming because I don’t see other good players with 20 losses due to your beatdown. Those good players out there would break your perfect scores.

Points based on real games, no more cheesemode I beat the system and therefore #1 on leaderboards type games. I’m HAPPY that they finally have something that is a result of real games rather than people trying to cheat the system.

Benjamin.8237:

uberkingkong.8041:

Benjamin.8237:

I agree with this, unfortunately. I don’t like 5 man roflstomping people but since the new patch solo queuing has forced me up against super pugs and premades while I was paired with new players. I don’t even understand how that happens at the moment and I’ve only played a few games so I’ll give it some more time but I’m likely to only queue as a team again and get stupidly high win ratios. It still seems to swing hugely both ways but we’ll see.

Really?

I just que’d solo not too long ago, another good game.

You have any screenshots to share with community of those super pugs going against new players?

I know a lot of people so I can tell if they new players or veterans.

I haven’t got any games against a premade yet, maybe I’m just on a lucky streak right now. Some people do like to exaggerate when they explain there things, that’s why you need proof to back up your claim. Easy to show proof, all you do is hit printscreen button and BAM!

This is my game from 10 mins ago. Pretty legit game, we up they up we up and we win. That deviation of the score is pretty good too, less than 50.

I could provide proof with a screenshot but I haven’t got any at the moment. I’m currently not playing ranked at the moment as my losses exceeded my wins and I’m not happy if it’s not 60% win rate so I’m going to wait until I get 5 players. But I’m not new.

Well I don’t play unranked games. What problem probably is, is like I been telling everyone those that play unranked are prepping for big tournaments like esl, so expect to get wooped and unfair games.

I’ve been playing ranked games and they look great… So far. 6 games and all of them felt like everyone was solo que’ed and decent skill level.

Sorry if you just want to play for fun and not be ranked.
They removed the most fun thing to do in PvP which was hotjoins.
Back when it was 8v8, that’s how I got into PvP, I loved playing it, I didn’t care about winning, all I cared about was having fun. And if people like being in 6v6 type battles or putting themselves into 1v6 battles good for them. If people just like to avoid zerg and backcap good for them. They had fun.
Apparently a group of people eliminated that fun, they want all games to be competitive, no fun, play to win only.

That’s why I don’t even look at hotjoin or unranked anymore. I’ll just play unranked if ranked dies out. Like for awhile it had 40 min que’s, nobody got time for that bullkitten (this was 12/8/14 when there was no leaderboard so everyone went unranked).

Benjamin.8237:

I agree with this, unfortunately. I don’t like 5 man roflstomping people but since the new patch solo queuing has forced me up against super pugs and premades while I was paired with new players. I don’t even understand how that happens at the moment and I’ve only played a few games so I’ll give it some more time but I’m likely to only queue as a team again and get stupidly high win ratios. It still seems to swing hugely both ways but we’ll see.

Really?

I just que’d solo not too long ago, another good game.

You have any screenshots to share with community of those super pugs going against new players?

I know a lot of people so I can tell if they new players or veterans.

I haven’t got any games against a premade yet, maybe I’m just on a lucky streak right now. Some people do like to exaggerate when they explain there things, that’s why you need proof to back up your claim. Easy to show proof, all you do is hit printscreen button and BAM!

This is my game from 10 mins ago. Pretty legit game, we up they up we up and we win. That deviation of the score is pretty good too, less than 50.

Justin ODell.9517:

uberkingkong.8041:

I like shorter que’s because you cant really do anything in hotm anyways.
There should be a playerbase rating system added tho. Like if the entire losing team knows they lost because of that one or two players on the enemy team, they should be able to flag them or give them stars like 5 stars, indicating don’t put me against that player because I’m a 2 star playing and shouldn’t be facing any 5 star players.

This might be a very interesting metric for us (ArenaNet) to have. Maybe correlate perceptions with other pieces of data. I can’t imagine ever sharing that information in-game.

Something like “Community Awards” at the end of a season might be interesting though, assuming it wasn’t being gamed.

I’d rather see it be a generic vote, something like “How would you rate the other players on your team?”. We could still tease individual ratings out of that, without worrying about individual bias against particular players.

You guys should implement a star rating, should be a community rating, you shouldn’t be forced to rate someone but if someone thinks your too good and shouldn’t be playing against them then you give them high rating so the game acknowledges that your good and the community agrees. Also vice versa if your playing with a bunch of 4 or 5 star players and they think your the reason why the game wasn’t any good, they’d give you a 1 star or 2 stars to get you out of there games.

So if I played a game, my team sucked I give them 1 stars because they all sucked, and some engineer wrecked them 1v3 1v2, I’d give that engineer 4 or 5 stars indicating my team sucked but that engineer was really good so don’t put me with those teammates because I’m a 3 star and they 1 stars but I shouldn’t be playing with that engineer because hes good.

You should be able to change your rating of someone as well, maybe one day they bad, but another game you seen them improve so, you change there star rating from 1 star to 3 star.

Not that the game will make it so you don’t play with those people period because theres a limit amount of people, but it would help with matchmaking.

Also would give the community something to do, and have a unique style leaderboard, like a community style which is how many times you been rated and where your at in rating.

Perhaps add some space for people to comment on you as well.

I think you should be able to see who rated you too because its nice to see that good players are rating you good, or if they rate you bad it gives you incentive to get better and get them to change there rating/thought of you.

Maybe have two ratings, skill rating and person rating, as in hes a good player, but he’s really bossy in games and doesn’t listen. So 4 stars in skill 1 star in person.

Archaon.9524:

NeXeD.3042:

Archaon.9524:

Jak Shadow.2864:

Archaon.9524:

New Leaderboards = Farm

Pretty epic for a game that is tryharding to be esportz lol

So you weren’t asking a question at all? You just wanted people to post in support of your view, which is this.

Would you be happy with any leaderboard that didn’t have you at the top of it? (Top not having to mean #1 btw)

I would be happy with a leaderboard not rewarding ppl for losing and that’s all, and since most top players\teams only play during night prime times most of them are nowhere to be seen in this “top” ladder while, on the other end, looks pretty crowded by scrubs who just keep playing all day no matter the result

You should show those scrubs how scubby they are and scrub those scrubs right of that scrub lis and take the #1 scrub spot.

Already met many of them…but if you play 5 matches\day and they play 20 you can rek them every single time you face each other but they will always be over you, it’s just plain simple maths

farming wars 2 here we go

Ya gotta play during primetime when they play and start beating them, make them get -negatives instead of +positive points.

Its point based system, if your better than them, beat them up put them in there place. If your just facing a bunch of newbies not even on the leaderboard don’t expect the top players to drop.
Top players have to face top players and beat them up collect more points and knock them off.

This leaderboard doesn’t encourage newbie farming. Like the previous one did.

You want +1 play during your newbie farming hours.
You want +3 per win, play during primetime when other good players are playing.

Archaon.9524:

data.4093:

double engi/ele winning WTS…gg.

yeah…because, you know…it takes skilllllzz

rofl

Easier said than done.

It’s like telling Americans, if you want 6 pack abs, all you got to do is eat healthy. That’s it.

How many Americans you see with 6 pack abs? I see most having kegs. Its really easy to get 6 pack, just eat healthy how hard is that? Apparently its very hard.

Just like turret engineers, if you want to win just go turrets, you see many people go turrets? Apparently its very hard to do so.

If engineer was easy everybody would do it, and everybody would be winning. Sadly its only a select few and they play a lot of games hence your likely to que up against them and they are likely to wreck you so hard that you have to come here and rage.

Yall whine so much.
If you know the secret to winning is going engineer than go engineer, don’t whine about it.

That’s why most of you are unsuccessful, because when you know the secret to something you try to get rid of it rather than reap the rewards until everybody is doing it and than something changes.
Stop whining if engineer is op and wins games, play an engineer, win games, when game is nothing but engineers the developers will do something about it. You guys just love making life hard for yourselves. I keep losing, and losing but I know if I go engineer I’ll win… “hey guys what class is best for soloing, I know its engineer but I just want everyone to know it again”. Engineers are soo good at winning, why am I not winning? Bad matchups, if I had engineer on my team I’d win (too lazy to go engineer myself and start winning games, I just like to whine about why I’m losing so many games). Going engineer is so easy but I don’t do it! Prefer to whine about losing to them, I really enjoy whining about engineers and letting everyone know if you play engineer you win games!

See developers, I told ya if you made losing less harsh people wouldn’t get so angry anymore.

All yall need to start listening to the ‘right’ people.

You know how the community says ‘pvp population is tiny’, well the old leaderboards with that tiny pvp population, some people that did play a lot of games, struggled to be on the leaderboards due to old leaderboard being full of garbage, people win 2 games and sit on leaderboard no more.

I like this leaderboard because its more active and good result. Tired of pug accounts hogging up space. Makes it so you have to focus on one account and not somebody trying to make anet look bad by getting all 10 of his accounts on leaderboard and than have 9 of them go inactive just to stall players.

This new leaderboard really gets the ‘tiny pvp population’ on the leaderboards and ranks people in a good manner as well.

Were these ranked matches? I had one full of warriors and a necro, ranked.

They should be more specific like ‘Win a hotjoin as a warrior’, that’s not too bad right there and gets people to play a different class.

If its just win a game as a warrior, why the heck would you play an unranked or hotjoin, useless game systems, makes total sense to play in ranked all the time unless you have something specifically stating that it has to be unranked or hotjoin.

There really isn’t much you can practically do for the daily in pvp besides what they’ve been having for months and years.

Should be a silly daily, communicate with your team by /team in 3 different games. Help people communicate.
Target an enemy in 3 different games, help people to target others.

Silentshoes.1805:

And look at this player (#872) 45 games, and only 5 points.

It’s not just playing a lot. He/she played a LOT.

Rank 872 // 5 pts //<player name> 15 // 30 // 33.33%

Has to do with when you play I bet,
I’m rank 877 and I played against some good players only have 4wins 3 losses, 5 points.

I’m liking this leaderboard because it rewards you for playing against other good players and not good players avoiding good players, thus the good players are facing newbs to get to top 100 by pounding a bunch of newbs and not facing the other good players.

Believe it or not, I do play with these top players every now and then, and I see other solo que’ers pressuring them and I’ve even seen matches I thought we’d win because a ‘top player’ was on my team, but the players on the other team were… believe it or not…. Better.

So when I see people with that 20 wins 0 losses crap, pretty much tells me, they be facing a bunch of newbs or easy wins by premade facing solo que’ers. They don’t deserve hardly any points from that, they need some legit games, face some other good mmr players and face other premades. Having trouble finding other good mmr players and premades???
-Play during primetime, it helps with that issue.

Gaiyeerishima Cat.1082:

Honestly me and him just stayed up and queued all night, we only fought a few decent teams, most of the games are just stomps since not that many people were playing.

If you look at his post history Twity says “want to get to top 100 in solo q? warrior bunker’s the way”

Gaiyeerishima.Cat you playing a bunker warrior? Perhaps something like a clerics hambow bunker type warrior? Necro carry all the solo que’ers and you’d get everyone in top 100 easy. Win win.

Bunker warriors and necros, that’s how you win games. The secret is out, start rolling your necros and bunker warriors…. Obviously these warriors didn’t go bunker, especially the best bunker warrior build, the cleric hambow style.

Funny fact,
You know the #2 guy, he plays a lot (I see him solo que a lot), he mains a warrior, but by looking at his name on the leaderboards, it looks like he played a necro.

Telling yall, bunker warriors and necro is the way to go.

Gaiyeerishima Cat.1082:

Hello, I am a good friend of Twity’s and did a lot of those queues with him. He mostly has been playing standard condi necro recently, but occasionally he hops on mesmer for old times sake or warrior if we are running too much glass.

Been telling people necro is the class to carry solo que’ers, people don’t listen tho.

I actually have to say, I had some good games today (maybe because I won most of them this time around).

Won 3 out of 4, the game I lost was due to other team having a lord kill, was pretty great match overall.

As you can also see none of those matches were like yesterday (losing by 250+ points). The games were really close, except for that 4 warrior and 1 necro on one team, we stomped them.

Also, you notice they are all solo’ers, so I don’t know what yall talking about facing premades. Yall must be really high up that leaderboard to be facing them or something. Its expected you face premades higher up leaderboard you go.

coglin.1867:

uberkingkong.8041:

Just ask Over Powered Necro, what class he plays, he wins a lot.

He aint no class swapper either, not to my knowledge.

What does playing different professions have to do with anything? You post about as if it is a bad thing. personally, I think someone would be a fool not to swap to other professions and learn to play them well. It is very wise to understand what your opponents are coming at you with, and why.

He asks what class carries the best, and its the Necro.

If you have to swap your class because its not any good to a class that’s good, than that class clearly isn’t best at carrying solo que players.

I’m with you about you should try every class, but as far as carrying solo que’s…. Necro.

Now sometimes you gotta carry extremely heavy loads, and not even a necro can do it, maybe overpowered necro can lift extreme amounts in solo que but it can be very difficult at times.

Take a look at this necro trying to carry his team.

You think those 4 warriors are gw2 only play for achievement type players (+1 achievement for winning pvp as a warrior)? Obviously that necro had a lot of weight to carry. I think if that was an overpowered necro, it could be possible to pull it off with that amount of weight to carry, but any other class wouldn’t even stand a chance.

Just ask Over Powered Necro, what class he plays, he wins a lot.

He aint no class swapper either, not to my knowledge.

insanemaniac.2456:

hmmm….

Engi is for sure the best class to go solo que with.

They go crazy 1v1, very effective in teamfights, can bunker points, can solo bosses, push bunkers off nodes and decap, get people into downed state off node and eliminate them from game by letting them bleed out.
For sure the best class to solo que with.

Necro is most likely the worst class to carry with if you ask me. I mean, this one guy who is well known for playing necro, he went elementalist as solo que instead of playing his well known necro build. That alone goes to show how necros are bad at carrying.

Ha.
Funny dude
Just thinking about the last part, I don’t know of anyone that mains a necro that swaps to a different class in games, unlike warriors, engineers, ele’s and thieves. I don’t recall ranger main’ers changing either. Like Euratien I’m pretty sure he never swaps out of ranger.

But ele’s like ZOOSEYBOY, Egggs, H man I’m pretty sure he switches, and Karmy.

Ranger and Necro too easy to carry thus no reason to switch. As for guardian, well they just guardians, I don’t see Stunningstyles playing a different profession.

If you have to swap your profession out, means they aint good at carrying, thus reason for swapping.

Most time when you lose to an engineer, its not because they easy to carry, its because that person playing the engineer is good. If it was easy to play an engineer than everybody would do it. I do have to say, that there condi cleanse needs some toning down. Hate seeing engineers act like ele’s splashing that water and condi cleansing like crazy, tone that kittener down.

Necro is for sure the best class to go solo que with.

They go crazy 1v1, very effective in teamfights, can bunker points, can solo bosses, fear bunkers off nodes and decap, get people into downed state off node and eliminate them from game by letting them bleed out.
For sure the best class to solo que with.

Engineer is most likely the worst class to carry with if you ask me. I mean, this one guy who is well known for playing engineer, he went elementalist as solo que instead of playing his well known engineer build. That alone goes to show how engineers are bad at carrying.

Couple things, I played solo today, nothing but solo que’ers all 3 matches I played.

Next thing, when you get up in the leaderboard, your going to start facing premades, if you want to be the #1 you have to start making friends and playing with them. Those top players team together they don’t solo que and win, and if you want to beat them you gotta start teaming yourself. If you’ve wooped all the solo que’ers guess what, your now at the level where you gotta figure out how to woop premades going solo with randoms if that’s your thing, but its a lot easier to ask people who you teamed with before if they want to que with you to increase odds of winning.

I almost got my champion paragon title, so I want to say nothing and just become the meta.

You know the old saying ‘Cant beat em join em.’ Then the developers will act on the balance when they realize nobody is playing nothing but eles and engies.

Nope solo que is just fine.
Que’d solo 3 games, nothing but solo que’ers in the game.

However, that matchmaking… Still broke.
Shouldn’t be games won by over 250, pretty much means it was a bad game. Games should be ending 325 to 500 at least, anything less than 250 is unacceptable.

3 games, 3 unacceptable games due to bad matchups. Not due to playing against premade.

Btw, that guy on the last screenshot ‘full kittens on this team’. Pretty much haha, I be getting pounded 1v2 all game and the rest of my team go zerg mode at home. Than they’d keep targeting the bunker guardian instead of the necro or try and kill that evasion thief rather than aiming for necro. Why they try to kill hard things is beyond me.

Than they’d lose to that Mesmer 1v1, I wooped his butt every single 1v1. That thief and necro tho, lucky they played as a team to save each other from my wooping.

I just play the game to woop people now, already expect gw2 matchmaking crappy. It’s been so bad for so long, its just the norm to me now. Not getting proper updates has become the norm for me too (pvp build template promised who knows how long ago). If you see me in game, prepare to get a wooping.

But ya, that matchmaking terrible. Crap games. All single sided games.