Guild Wars 2

I’ve played every class to lvl 80 except for Thief. I was like you before, but then i realized, Guardian is just so awesome. =D

My comments to you is : Please delete your Guardian ASAP or try other class and realized how ignorance you are.

Guardian Tips : Ring of Ward in the middle of gang fight.

Romek.4201:

SkylightMoon.1980:

The games been out for two years and I feel like for the NA/EU region the esports time has past. Because the pvp community has grown so small. How are they going to get people back into the game to make a big community again?

they can´t

most in this games pvp is designed to kitten people and arenanet dont care about.
“fun” has no priority in their design

i talk about:
Hotjoin is all about kittening new players – they get farmed /stomped all day in outnumbered fights (experienced hotjoin heros go all same side and farm newbies)

SoloQ they do everything to kitten people in hope they will join teamQ cause they dont have Players for teamQ – with things like skyhammer/spiritwatch in rotation or only half pointz for same work as teamQ

TeamQ – 5 man premades farm most time randoms (solo players, duo or trtiple teams) and call this competive

..

2 years ….. and nothing ….. stilll looks/feels like a kitten beta

Cant agree anymore!

Here’s a Hammer+Greatsword build i’ve been using for soooo long~~

Weapon :
Greatsword sigils- Hydromancy + Fireblast
Hammer sigils- Intelligent + Rage or any you like

4: II, VII
0
6: I, X, XII
4: III, IX
0

Utilities: Purge Condition, Judge Intervention, Stand Your Ground

Combo : Starts with Hammer
(Ham5+JI) + Swap + GS4 + GS2 + GS5.5 + GS3

Shhh~~I use Hammer (Sigil of Rage) / GS(hydro) combo.

JI+RoW, swap GS chill+ GS4+GS2*Rage mode On, bam bam bam, sucking HP with Zealous blade instant heal =D’ lots of people kissing floor. Though its luck, once pull it off, its stronKkKK~~

Clip.6845:

yLoon.5289:

Spectator mode itself got no problem. New rank (0-15rank) players should be segregated from veteran players as they are causing the problem you are highlighting.

Played Chivalry: Medieval Warfare recently, they have those servers were you can’t enter if you’re higher than rank 15. Loved being able to learn the game without experienced people around to kick my kitten .

I would propose New Rank player can join Veteran’s Players Game, but only restricted to Spectator Mode.

Spectator mode itself got no problem. New rank (0-15rank) players should be segregated from veteran players as they are causing the problem you are highlighting.

I can truly understand how you feel.

Apparently the main contributor to your suffering is Arena. They refuse to keep noobs at bay and throwing the newbie kittens in the cage filled with huge fighting lions.

Yeah, and i ask myself the same question too

Nonetheless, AOE blind is still > Regen Symbol

Shaterz.2703:

sometimes these forums depress me… anyways. its not a matter of “dps guard CAN kill stuff” its a matter of how well it performs compared to other classes. its a matter of why would you bring a dps guard over smthing else? dps guard cant really roam as good as other classes. the dmg is meh. theres no grp support and the list goes on.

Haha, you need to play more xD

I do not know bout your guys but a DPS GS + Hammer Guard brings alot of damage and CC on group fight, been using 4/0/6/4/0 ever since i started spvp.

Hammer 3rd AA with Enlarge Symbol is OP on group fight, not to mention, GS4 & 5.
The only useless DPS Guard i would say would be the One-Handed only guards.

Good concern from the OP, one of the reason i stop playing FoTM last year is because the Red trash is piling up and eating my bank space =/

Play more and learn, in time you will laugh at yourself for this topic after that.

I will just walk away from him when i see him summoning 2 or 3 spirit weapon. And melt him afterwards. Sadly, SW is broken since it lost its invulnerability.

Here’s a DPS build i’ve been using for soooo long ago~~

DPS / 2H / CC /Medi/ AOE Guard
Weapon :
Greatsword sigils- Hydromancy + 7% Crit chance
Hammer sigils- Intelligent + Fireblast or any you like

4: II, VII
0
6: I, X, XII
4: III, IX
0

Utilities: Purge Condition, Judge Intervention, Stand Your Ground
Combo : (Ham5+JI)+Swap+GS4+GS2+GS5.5+GS3

Come on, give Ele a break!

Hehe, i like this.
I’ve been working on the similiar tactic.

Axe4 and GS2 combo xD

Aww OP, you reminded of myself when i first pvp in this game xD.
I felt exactly the same.

GW2 is never balance in 1v1 here (off target lock from invi is OP for new players xD), bear that in mind, that is why till now ARENA never support dueling =)
Whether you like it or not, GW2 is about how to maneuver yourself against impossible odds, teamwork, setting traps, luring, baiting, etc etc etc. and not ramming your head on to a supreme dueling class such as Mesmer and Thieve.

Sadly, at the current stage, Ele is in the bad light to fight with Mesmer and Thieve =/
Try Necro vs Mesmer, Guard vs Thieve instead xD

Vanthian.9267:

Zirith.6429:

We arnt talking about a rated 1v1 dueling system, we are talking about the ability to 1v1 anywhere you want for fun instead of just afking in town or logging off or afking while waiting for something to happen.

Neither was I. Open world dueling is just a failed idea because it will be populated by a majority of Thieves and Mesmers as stated. Plus, why would you want to fight a bunch of PvEr’s anyway? They are not geared towards nor accustomed to doing PvP. What could you possibly gain from fighting a bunch of PvEr’s?

The almost all pure PvEr’s will just deny the request for a duel, so in essence this is nothing more than a plea for people to beg for duels from PvEr’s and then call people cowards for not wanting to fight.

It is easier and less clutter for everyone else in PvE if you go duel in the area designated solely for PvP. Go to the Heart of the Mists and duel in a empty server. There are literately at least 5 at all times (even though some say they have 1 person in them most of them don’t, at least in my experience). Not only will that take you out of PvE but it will also take away your hyper inflated stats and make the fight more profession/skill based.

What will be gained? Fun?
If its not fun for you, it could be fun to others, isn’kitten I don’t know about you but I do not see if server being populated with Mesmer and Thieve as a problem at all. In all essence you are just being fear of the negative outcome, rather than a positive outcome.

Of cause, it is valid that you are afraid of people’s bad behavior from Dueling system, however i think it could be solved as it only enabled Dueling Invitation to your Friends in your list. Isn’kitten

I used to play as a low level 40 mesmer and thrashed lvl 80 players in wvw. Gear doesn’t matter, it is the sense of achievement from pulling through from an impossible odds. And THAT is fun for me. And i wish i could do that in PVE content with close friends in open dueling, ya know, the crowd? The cheers? =D

I’m in the support wagon to implement dueling system in GW2. Speaking from a view of a player that started to play GW2 since it launched, here’s why,

1.Living story fun only last for…… a week? While the fun of Dueling last forever. Dueling at anytime, anywhere, thats kinda epic. Dueling at the highest peak of Maelstrom? It could even further develop a culture for players to record down the duel. Why do you even bother wasting time creating a new pvp map? The vast beautiful terrain of PVE contend was already the best place to pvp!

2.It helps newbies to horn their skill while preventing them from being thrashed at the current hotjoin, or custom 1v1 map. Newbies got the chance to select their newly meet friends, not being slaughtered without knowing a reason in hotjoin.

3. Through my experience of mmo for 10 yrs, i make the most friends in dueling during end game. We would meet at a certain place and time and duel the hell out till we are contended. Hence, implementing Dueling system would be a way to keep veteran players in GW2, from the way i see it.

Now dear Arena, what is the main reason from holding you guys to implement the dueling system?

Ranger is my second favorite profession i played the most after Guardian. While Guard was all about going melee, ranger is totally opposite xD

I enjoy how i disengage from a fight with LB3 + GS3. A thief can only kiss my dust. xD

I enjoy playing a ranger with LB/GS with zerk gears -D I super love the additional 300 range. That’s OP. Depend on how well you hide yourself from plain sight.

In pvp, most ele/necro die by my bow not knowing what hits them lol. Try combo Double Signet of Hunt, and BAM! 6k-8k HP gone in 3 secs, very effective in ganking. I dont think any class can pull that off from 1500 range =).

Therefore, LB doesnt sucks. It needs players to think on how to utilized it in different situation. If you are one of the ranger that still using LB when opponent is close to you, yeah, you are gonna be so dead =D.

echo.2053:

kekuso.5837:

And yes, rank does matter. GW2 pvp is all about experience and knowing how to fight with/against all classes. Rank is a reflection of that amount of experience.

Lol yeah tell it how it is, with my treb, cannon and hammer of the sky glory build I am like a glory god.

Sorry bro rank is just a reflection of time wasted.

You could try to be more constructive, stop WASTING people’s TIME reading on useless comment such as this from your good-self.
You mentioned about glory farming issue which is obviously not in any way related to the discussion here.

manveruppd.7601:

This has GOT to be a joke right? Is the OP mocking all the “matchmaking fail!” threads started by people complaining about rank 1s in their top-500 tournament games or something?

Which part of “Noobs ruined Hot-join Game-play Experience” have failed to make you understand the discussion was about Hotjoin and not about tournament?

Razor.9132:

It’s hot-join, no one cares. It’s for lulz and people go there to kill, not play objectives. Think of it like random arenas of GW2.

Grabbing candies from a baby is fun for you?
Losing is part of the fun for you?

My point is, a Good Game/Fun Game should be consisted of 2 teams of players at the same par of playing level/experience. We feel accomplished and that’s part of the fun! Not thrashing newbies. If this persist to continue for a long term without any remedies from arena, PvP would ultimately meet its impending doom i dare to say.

Well i care =), for the newbies as well.
Meanwhile entertain yourself with another screenshot. I’m pretty sure that rank 42 wasn’t having any fun at all in his losing team.

Oh arena, so much fun for the newbies? Is that how you attract new players into PVP content?

Ideas:
1) Arena should segregate hot-join players in term of their range of levels.
Example, 0-15. 16-29,30-40,40-80
No fun for noobs either if all they get is being slaughtered by higher rank players in hot-join. Arena, you don’t put a cat with a bunch of huge raging fighting lions in the same cage don’t you?

2)Noobs can enter higher rank game as a viewer instead. To learn, if they wish to.

At the moment, yeah, noobs ruined hot-join pvp game play experience, either for themself, or for veteran players.

To You Know Who.

By the way, you are not one bit being constructive at all, everything you posted is just about complain complain complain and licking Warrior’s butt. While I’m giving suggestion, you behave like a Taliban suicide bomber.

1. You are referring to highest hitting damage need 3secs to perform, I assume GS2? Therefore I’m suggesting you a way. Warrior hardest hitting GS2 is strong but too easily avoided, furthermore is frontal aoe, not 360 like Guard.
2. You are complaining like a kid about hammer, I’m suggesting how to fully utilized Hammer fullest capabilities, im sorry for you if you feels like forcing when someone is giving out facts. Bash what? Hammer4 ofcos. This is what happens to noobs, forever refuse to learn, i’ve met alot of kinds like you.
3. Well, at least Guard could sneak attack Judge intervention at 1200 range.
4. About Blind, I wont indulge in your childish reply.
5. Yup, i agree with you on this, Guards is either fight or die. Or choose other profession
6. In fact, arena did give us mini buff on Zeal trait line regarding on this, drop a symbol of wrath at 50% HP which provides you with Swiftness on Dec Patch. At the moment, the choice to run close to none.

Ele is best in AOE, however easily interrupted.

Arlette.9684:

I’m sorry but what you guys fail to mention is, our hardest hitters require for the target to be in range for 3-3.5 secs to take the full damage of the skill, while we’re lacking the necessary tools to make that target stay in melee range for the above mentioned period of time.

1. No passive speed increase like every other class
2. Out of our entire kitten nal of attacks that have high damage only the hammer #2 is a single hit, and even that one has an animation slow enough, for the target to have the time to take a pizza bite and still press the dodge button before it lands.
3. On the other hand, a full zerker warrior has a ranged attack that crits anything between 10 and 16k depending on what it hits and yes it is a single hit. And close combat versions of it (predictable and all) that hit just as hard if not harder.
4. Warrior has 6xx HPS, so even in zerker gear they’re not as glassy.
5. Warrior has passive 25% speed increase, you won’t have to worry about staying on target.
6. Warrior has amazing mobility with greatsword, Guardian has great mobility “to” and none “from”, if I can put it that way.

In the current meta Warrior is vastly superior in almost all aspects (except for being a buffbot in large scale activities) of the game compared to a Guardian.

That being said, Guardians are likely to see some sort of buff in the near future, while Warriors are almost 100% getting the nerf bat and might end up keeping company to all the Elementalists on the sidelines.

1. I’m sorry to say this but do you know about Sigil of Hydromancy on Greatsword once swap, there you got your full damage.
2. When near wall, Bash opponent to wall, if you are skill enough, you will be able to perform 3 hits combo hits with 2 AA + Might Blow (again, its about skill)
3 Warrior rifle, predictable like kitten, AOE Bow slow like kitten, too stupid to see their animation? Good for you. Our scepter AA are actually working tremendously good in melee range.
4. Skill of players determine the glassiness in this game, not HP. Guard got much more easy access to Blind comparing to Warrior. You wanna Blind and have more HP? That would be OP. Blind helps you avoid gigantic damage, enough said.
5. In term of speed, we are compensated with easy access of Stabiliy, true, we are harder or can never able to hunt down other classes that are withdrawing from battle, but there is myriads of ways such as teleport, hammer 3, GS5 to pull them at the right moment (again, its about skill)
Wanna make target stay on you? Ring of Ward.
6. It will be OP if guards have the mobility like warrior.

Lastly, you are so terrible wrong in stereotyping Guard as buffbot. Guards are king of AOE Damage, go figure yourself as i repeated too many times in forum.

To OP,
Depend on what game are you refering to.
In Dungeon play, yes Warrior got the upper hand in DPS. Guards DPS comes to second among all of the classes.
In PvP,
in AOE damage, warrior <guard,
in single target burst warrior = guard.
in CC warrior=guard
However Best AOE damage is Ele, Guard second.

You are so kind x). If I were you, i would ask him to GTFO,=D
No such thing as Aegis every 10 secs.

Let me debunked your personal myth before you continue to mislead other new Guardian players:

1)Greatsword=Lackluster and out performed by Hammer in sPVP:
This is a total blasphemy! Both weapons are equally good. Trap your opponent with Ring of Ward+Symbol of Wrath = Win. It’s all about the technic combo to perform it, not just smashing button and expect people to walk on it.

2)Symbol of Wrath is redundant:
It did tremendous job so far till Arena had to nerfed it down to the state as it is now. Though, still a hard kitten kicking skill! GS is the only weapon that grant us instant reta, and you wanna remove it. We can never have enough of retaliation boon. Its what compensate our lack of mobility!

3)PVE situation ontdone by Sw/F :
This argument is a total flaw. GS Symbol of Wrath works great with AOE dmg which is superior to any kitten nal we have in PVE.

Your proposal:
1)Granting might
Granting Might will defeat the purpose of the holy Guardian’s name!
In fact, we got Empowering Might in our trait which is far more superior that forcing your teammate to walk over our symbol for …might.

2)Fire Field
In sPvP, reta is far superior than might.Aoe reta boon on allies is better for sure,specially gang fight in midpoint.

Conclusion, Symbol of Wrath is good as it is now.

I agree with OP.
I see nothing wrong with Arena giving us such meter in the purpose of self evaluation, expose of such information shall be subjected to each players willingness to share with others.

Norjena.5172:

Hammer:
Does nobody want´s to remove the light combofield from symbol of protection?
This weapon is losing much in teamplay. Retalation often is not so strong. And guardians can easy get it.
On the other side, Hammer 5 is a light combofield anyway…

If i want to heal an allie, i want a waterfield, if i want dmg, i want a fieryfield, if i want to protect an allie i want aether…
But light? Not rly, and not on an AA Chain!

Hammertrait need a buff true. But Glacial heart shouldn´t be “the dps” trait. Decrease chill duration to 1sec, but cooldown to 10 or 6 seconds. And Increase the dmg done by this trait a little bit.
To increase the weapons dps, Zealot´s Blades would be more interresting. Cause we could get a interessting trait in Zeal 10points+. And 10% dmg with symbol of protection as a grandmaster minor…
I think that would be better then 5% dmg on glacial heart (which wouln´t help in pvp, “burst+chill” is better here).

Ring of warden useable while moving is rly needed to. The hammer is a low movement weapon anyway.

I am totally disagree with removing light combo field for hammer.
Retaliation is extremely strong my young padawan , just attack ranger’s pet forming combo retaliation and see how fast Bow Ranger hp drop. Their HP drop at least by 1/5.

IMHO, Water field on Hammer chain would be too OP. Ever wonder why water field time period last the shortest? Only Ranger’s have that privilege a.k.a Healing Spring.
So you want to combo heal while having protection all the time? Fair? Sure not.

Hammer Protection Symbol is one of the strongest signature move for guardian, changing it means nerfing it. While the only changes i would love to see is to reduce their chain combo. Merging Write of Persistence and Writ of Exaltation.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/Is-there-anyway-to-win-a-mesmer-in-1-v-1/first#post2091853

Yeah and so, its nothing new to read

Nothing new to see here, move on move on. Yawnnnn

Teshtestyes.5419:

Thanks for the replies and advice. I think I have the general idea of how to play a good Guardian now.

You never fully know how to play a good Guardian unless you make yourself clear with Combo. >.>

What is the name of that Guardian? Is it Lonzl? >.>

OP Is like wanna get the LionHeart on Disc 1 in FFVIII.

Replace Shield 4 ability to AOE Blind. The Guardian utilised his shining polished shield to blind the enemy with the Glaring effect. L O L.

I dislike this so called update. Our trademark spirit weapon still as useless as ever since they strip off the invulnerable of it.

If you could give mesmer 8 secs 1200 range teleport withdraw battle without target, why cant you do similiar thing to out sword2?

Staff2 shining ball skill should be change completely if it still stupidly spend most of its time to land in underground.

Shield is laughable and kittened. Reduce the cool down, and its done.

Torch should be able to cleanse own condition. As the saying goes, you can never help others if you can’t help yourself.

Hammer3: Opponent only need to strafe left or right without dodging to completely render the slowpoke cobra chain useless. Try do this in flanking, the success rate to net down is awfully ridiculous.

Mace3: enable us to detonate it please.

Lastly: i wanna have shield as main hand.

Enable the pet to dodge as well when player dodge? Settle AOE problem xD

Christos de Soufre.3802:

What is Healway?

Healway is an active-bunker build initially designed to allow easy transition from solo and small group roaming to zerg support. This build is ideally for group play, but will allow for success in solo play when needed. What I mean by “active-bunker” is that you will not survive simply by the virtue of having high armor or health. Your passive healing, heavy armor, and blocks will allow you to take some hits, but due to a lower-than-average health pool you must be ready to use LoS and/or put some distance between yourself and your opponent to give yourself time to regenerate if things start to go south. Also worth noting is that you have no passive condition removal with this build; it all comes from shouts.

This was designed primarily with WvW in mind. Slapping Zerker gear on over it will make it work in PvE and it’s got some uses in sPvP, but I’m fairly certain there are better builds for both PvE and sPvP (glass cannons and meditations, for example).

Here’s a quick demonstration of Healway being used for solo roaming. If you are unable to view the first video, you should be able to see this one.

Great, so give us the build.

Well, since you asked so nicely, here is a video discussing the build in-depth.

For those of you who like having something to look at on paper, here is a BuildCraft layout of the core group play/support build:

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=-7;4NF-40M3kF-90;9;69TT;43;018A289UVk6;2CqNYCqNY40FB1-P5;2Vl-sWv1-Z5_B50sVGV350;4F2Coc2Cu;9;9;9;9;84-6y

When needed, a few weapons, traits, and skills can be traded out for solo/small group play:

http://www.intothemists.com/calc/index.php?build=-7;4NFV40M33G-90;9;69TT;41;018A189URk65;1CqNYCqNY40ka0-1370;0Vl-sWv1-Z5_B50sVGV350;4F2Coc2Cu;9;9;9;9;84-6o

Note: It should be noted that these will not be the strongest setups for EVERY situation, especially if you play competitively. It is up to the player to decide what to change and when to change it in order to play this build to its fullest in any given situation.
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One of the key points of this build is flexibility. The majority of the Major traits can be swapped around and experimented with (i.e. Defender’s Flame can be traded for Purity when engaging Necromancers or for SiN if you just like extra Toughness). Runes and food choices also have some room for experimentation and almost every available weapon can be made to work with this build in some way, shape, or form.

Traits NOT to change: Superior Aria, Pure of Voice, and Absolute Resolution. Indomitable Courage has two viable alternatives: Shielded Mind (which now breaks stuns on up to 5 friendlies) and Elite Focus. If you’re running with your guild or with a zerg, you may want your Tome of Courage to last an extra 10 seconds. Otherwise, SM is also a lot stronger than it used to be. My personal preference is IC for the clutch Stability and additional Aegis per 2 minutes, but it isn’t necessarily the best choice for everyone.

The exception to the “do not change Pure of Voice” rule: running Soldier’s runes and/or Purity can free up enough room to run Battle Presence instead. Battle Presence is a very powerful group support tool which IS affected by your Healing Power and by Absolute Resolution. The passive healing to allies even keeps ticking when Resolve is on cooldown! The only issue is finding enough condition removal for yourself without double condi removal on shout. Supplementing with Lemongrass Poultry Soup can help.

Utilities NOT to change: “Hold the Line!” and “Stand Your Ground!” That said, it’s very easy to trade out “Save Yourselves!” for a Consecration or Meditation depending on the situation and group size. When trading out “SY!”, it’s recommended that you run Purity over Defender’s Flame for the supplementary condition removal. However, SiN is just as viable if you’re comfortable with your ability to avoid death by conditions.

It’s recommended that you use a Staff of Bloodlust or Life to build your preferred stacks before moving out to roam or switching to your Staff of Energy for group play. If playing alone, Bloodlust may be preferable for additional damage. The more players you have, the more valuable the extra Healing from Life becomes — 250 extra healing to 5 people per dodge roll is a big deal. Life is the correct choice for competitive group play.

I’ve always hated WvW.
Never like WvW.

Till i tried this build.
And I owned 3 players together which consisted of Mesmer, Necro, and Ranger.

I don’t know how the duck i did that.
But this build works like magic.

Thanks OP!

Guys~~~Cut arena some slack.

Its like you bought Final Fantasy VII and wanna obtain Ultima Weapon in Chocobo Racing.

Its like you bought Final Fanasy VIII and wanna obtain Lion Heart from the Card Game.

Arena’s been treading lightly in this, hence the loooong update-less in PvP. Its like do it you are kitten ed, don’t do it you are also kitten ed kind of situation.
Words of encouragement to Arena: Thanks for this awesome game! Keep it up! Ignore whiners! Listen more !

Anyway, I agree with some of the players here, the “grinding” glory features need to be maintain or you gonna give a finger to the current players that are working kitten it in a legitimate way.

Skills and knowledge of a player define the class itself. Rubbish like what better bunker, what better damage, its all like kids talking about who’s dad is richer.

Yes i do like the new updates, only in term of tpvp, spvp due to the Fury Boon. 8 secs of Fury is too much and OP if your opponent is trap in your Ring of Ward ; instant death even before Fury was introduced.

However nothing has been change for the betterment of PvE experience. Still the same kittens fragile and useless Spirit Weapons.

Bow is for sissies.

Let’s do it Captain America Way, shield as Main hand and off hand woohOOooo

This build is extremely good for CoE Alpha and dungeon boss run.

For the peeps that commented, While 5 in virtue is good, however most of the time team mate is too far apart, the blind only last for half second, need practice to keen on mobs knockdown and attacks. in boss run, almost rendered useless.

This is my build since launch >.> however at the moment, ive changed from 10 Valor into Zeal +5%GS dmg.

So far i don’t think nor saw before any Tanky Guard with 19k HP have any capability to kill any profession.

I only can say the best 1v1,1v4 WvW Roaming Build is the one called Healway Guardian, due to it’s high time boon duration on Retaliation and Save Yourself is not nerfed in WvW. Google it , i dont have the link >.>

Double Scepter and Double Shield!

First, on behalf of all of the Zerk Guard, you have my thanks!
Not bad for your time there, good job! Try to break mine 40mins in CoE all 3 paths =X

We all love speed runs, except for those
“who cares, i love to play how i want,i like to take it slow,
oh no guardian,you cant defend 1-4 in CoE”
oh no we dont need another Wall etc"

I am a Zerk Guard since beta, we do exist >.> Its just some bs stereotype mindless people brainwash the newcomer by the term <Guard,Boon,Aegis>in the forum , so it must only good for support! That kind of mentality irks me the most.

Now go make a Zerk Guard xD

There is not a single bad class in 1v1, only bad and noob players.

Lol, Tarsius thanks forthe clarifications! Yes i meant Vulnerability lol. many apologies for the confusion earlier!