Guild Wars 2

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Black Box.9312:

I feel like I’m arguing with Fox News here. Never mind then, carry on.

It may be that you are actually fox news.

/forumception O_O

Any decent guardians and mesmers should also be pretty active in cleansing your condi’s.

Don’t count on that in a pug however.

I will miss you elephant man Jin :(

http://youtu.be/Hn-enjcgV1o

Guys, guys.. it’s not a promise unless they say it’s a promise!

eg.

• ‘Hey guys we are going to implement this in the second half of 2013’
  ALARM BELLS!! This is not a promise! This is just friendly banter!

• ’Hey guys we have a promise for you, we are going to implement this in the second half of 2013, we promise.

Total promise!

Word games guys, this is the new spvp. Or should I say wpvp. One of the new finishers for word games pvp includes summoning a giant quotation mark to come crashing down from the sky and finish your enemies.

CC Danicia.1394:

Zelyhn.8069:

Hey Danicia, since you are so nice to care about the well being of our discussions here in this sub-forum, could you try to include in your daily report to ask the devs to give us a bit of attention?

This is absolutely doable.

So firstly. ’it’s doable’ means it’s possible, not that you’ll actually do anything at all.

And secondly, even if you did do it the response has yet to be seen.

CC Danicia.1394:

Indeed! Doable I say!

I don’t find word games very funny when people are left in the dark for months on end.
Many of us would really like an update on the state and direction of dungeons as we have alot of time invested in playing them.

I’d honestly appreciate it, even if you just told us ‘hey, I can’t do this right now, I have a lot of work on my plate’ or ‘well I requested their input and they basically just brushed me off.’ (Which wouldn’t surprise any of us, nor would we blame you).

It’s really just turned into a confusing mess.

btw I encourage people to count the created topics complaining about meta players vs created topics complaining about play how you wants.

Lindbur.2537:

Apparently he was talking about open world zergs. Mm, well, such high DPS is to be expected when there are so many cleric AH staff camping guardians with their super stronk heals pressing 1 and sometimes 4.

Okay.

kitten bearbows, always killing things too fast.

Lindbur.2537:

I was wondering about the reaso- oh wait, there wasn’t any. So I thought I’d have a little fun from watching him get piled by arguments he wouldn’t be able to refute. :p

Yeh I thought about it for a min and I realised this is the kind of post where OP wanted to put it in the dungeon section but figured

1.) the devs will never see it there and
2.) He’d get kitten on by all the regulars here.

Personally I hope that his post rots away there and never gets any traction, because there are some changes incomming that I do not agree with due to kittens with similar posts getting attention in that forum subsection.

Kartel.2561:

No strategy, no support / control. Just get things killed asap.

Stopped reading there. And I really don’t want to bump another one of those posts. They are not worthy.

Dual.8953:

The fact that you posted this here is contrary to the objective of your post.

Then you have no idea what the actual objective of my post is.

Yes, I too remember the times when I would join a play how you want party in the lfg and then proceed to make their runs more efficient by playing meta. Man I was an awful individual, forcing my meta ways on them. I bet they were after nice slow runs where they could sit around with their ranged weapons and auto attack a boss while watching TV, getting downed and wiping every so often to break up the monotony.. but NO. Scumbag Swiftpaw came in and ruined it by making the mobs die faster.

Meanwhile in reality world:

• Scumbag elitist makes a group, states that he only wants zerk/scholar.. is then hit with a plague of play how you wants joining and hoping to slip through without being noticed and get carried. When he kicks them he is verbally abused in whispers. On the forums he has a ‘superiority complex’ and is ‘selfish’ for wanting a fast run.

• Play how you want makes a group with some general and non specific description -
  Evil scummy elitists avoid them and don’t join because elitists have an obvious ‘superiority complex’. Play how you want carries on with his business undisturbed. Is heralded as a hero by the community for being ‘the other side of the coin’ and a special snowflake. Can’t understand why he gets kicked from scumbag elitist’s ‘zerk+ scholar only’ advertised runs on his full cleric’s mace/shield guardian.

Man I LOVE equality.

If we are talking dungeons it’s because it’s not needed and there are far better utilities with shorter cool downs. The bow requires party members to stand within it’s aoe when activating the special. Cleanses are also easily accessible through traits.

You know what you should not have the freedom to do?

Dictate what other people are doing when their actions do not affect you at all.

Make your own group.

DeathPanel.8362:

swiftpaw.6397:

DeathPanel.8362:

swiftpaw.6397:

You contribute to part of that failure. Much like a man who causes what happens in his future simply because he saw it.

Wrong. Having consistent success with something that is works 100% of the time over taking a gamble and having something that sometimes works better and sometimes fails is NOT failure. You are the one contributing to any failures because failures only have a chance of happening in YOUR system.

That poor caps lock key.

Also simply typing ‘Wrong’ isn’t really convincing me. If you think you are having ‘success’ by running a subpar build and not contributing as much as you could be then be my guest. I could run dungeons naked and be successful because the rest of my team is carrying. Just for the love of ‘Dwayna’ stay out of my parties.

I caps locked a grand total of 2 words for emphasis lol. Over react much? Maybe that’s the only thing you can attack me on because you literally don’t have any valid arguments left?

And I don’t really care about convincing you actually because you’ve already made up your mind regardless of facts. I’m not just saying you’re wrong as I’ve already demonstrated exactly where your argument fails. I’m just presenting the facts to open minded people here so they don’t fall for your narrow minded argument.

You really have yet to demonstrate anything other than indignation. I don’t think it’s appropriate for this thread.

DeathPanel.8362:

swiftpaw.6397:

You contribute to part of that failure. Much like a man who causes what happens in his future simply because he saw it.

Wrong. Having consistent success with something that is works 100% of the time over taking a gamble and having something that sometimes works better and sometimes fails is NOT failure. You are the one contributing to any failures because failures only have a chance of happening in YOUR system.

That poor caps lock key.

Also simply typing ‘Wrong’ isn’t really convincing me. If you think you are having ‘success’ by running a subpar build and not contributing as much as you could be then be my guest. I could run dungeons naked and be successful because the rest of my team is carrying. Just for the love of ‘Dwayna’ stay out of my parties.

You contribute to part of that failure. Much like a man who causes what happens in his future simply because he saw it.

It’s your choice. You can make your own group and specify no stacking. It’s not hard and just look at all the people who want no stacking, there’s tons of threads and posts on this now so you have no excuse.

PSA – If we are dictating how people should play, then I say we make it mandatory that everyone be running meta. Why? Because I don’t like how other people play even when I have a choice not to group with them. Sound familiar, anti-stacking friends?

I don’t like it.

Ok well then..

I’d like to point out that the ‘dead dps is no dps’ mantra that many people mindlessly chant can also be misleading. What if for example someone does 10 dps in 20 seconds but is dead for the last 5, and another person does 1 dps in 20 seconds but is alive the entire time. Who did more dps?

Why is it multiplication >_>

excellent <3

I run meta dungeon teams daily. If you’re running meta I can add you to my contact list for when I have open slots.

Obtena.7952:

J Eberle.9312:

Running AH does nothing for your team. And stacking does not somehow magically change this.

And this isn’t what the OP has asked so are you genuinely being helpful or is this just another soapbox attempt.

Well actually..

Tolmos.8395:

So do you guys know of any still viable altruistic healing builds for solo/dungeon PvE, or if not, do you know something comparable that you might suggest? Thanks!

Yep, he’s being helpful. <3

I am sad

S/t-f-u im trying to teach [noob] would also have worked. Iris pop me an inv.

(- and / there because censored)

I like the last one: Scumbag Elitist Mentors [Noob]

Don’t give him any ideas.

I love open world events, it’s like doing dungeons but you can’t kick the bowbears and staff guards. Good thing too because we need tons of ‘healers’ for wurm event! lol.

Dat scaling tho.

People advertising for ’heavy’s only’ generally have no idea what they are asking for.

Majority of guardians in this game are completely awful and actually a waste of a party slot, but your typical mindless pug doesn’t understand that sitting on staff procc’ing AH and not hitting virtues is bad. Wars do not require a great deal of effort to be effective, and thanks to the CoF days, many pugs wars have at least some semblance of dps, even if they too are running kitten poor builds.

Rangers- most of them are bearbows and axe campers, another waste of a party slot. The difference bewteen the stigma of rangers and guardians is that rangers are alot more obvious and there’s a plague of them.

Solutions-

Make your own groups. Even if pugs make stupid requests in their description, that’s their right. It’s their party, and they are taking the time to make it. Respect that. If they are vague in their description and then kick you when you join, who cares? At least they kicked you before starting instead of getting kittened off halfway through.

Run the right build, and ping it. Someone above stated they run GS + axe/wh. I would kick that faster than the blink of an eye. But if he showed me that he had sword/wh + zerk and told me he had spotter and frost then it’s not a problem. This applies for all classes, I’m not taking GS mesmers, I’m not taking rifle warriors, I’m not taking staff guardians and I’m not going to take axe/wh rangers. I think many people are the same way. Rangers are extremely notorious for bearbowing and so people may not give you the chance to ping before kicking, best to whisper them beforehand.

I can say I’ve seen many people around the 10k+ mark that are also awful. They’re out there farming AP in open world and now they’re looking to get carried through dungeons for their dungeon master title AP. These same people also happen to scale up the Wurm events in Bloodtide and do jack kitten.

It’s better to gear check them and ask about their builds, likelihood of not being bad increases.

Elrey.5472:

Don’t kick players, have a better attitude

PSA: Better attitude does not = having to carry all the bad/lazy/selfish players every time you go and do a dungeon.

Ya’all should see how much dishonored I have on the forums for kittening people off.

This system you suggest encourages something. It encourages bad players to join groups they are not supposed to. I advertise for specific players, the bads join regardless because they know I’ll get marked if I kick them and have little choice in the matter. Even now they join over and over thinking they can just sneak in. Many times I have to kick people mid-run because they lie to me about their builds, they swap their gear sets, they ignore instruction and just generally don’t give a kitten. That won’t stop happening with these suggestions but could in fact become even more common now that people know there’s a penalty for trying to get rid of them. There’s more to just dungeon grief than kickers, there are plenty of joiners who think the lfg system is a charity and if you don’t want to carry them you’re an evil scummy elitist.

Healing power. Mesmer. We have reached a new level of lunacy.

guanlongwucaii.3162:

perhaps they should just let dungeons alone and let their hired monkeys concentrate solely on developing our beloved LS “content”.

We are giving in T_T

foofad.5162:

Anyway, long story short, I really don’t think that it’s all that obscure what’s going on. They’re slowing down the pace a bit, likely in preparation for other changes.

At first I was excited, omg changes! Something new and exciting to do! Then I realized they are rarely good.

And Cat I am proud to report that I encountered a longbow camping warrior in CM today, and he never once placed a fire field down bless his soul.

Buh-Buh-Buh-Buh- Bump it up. http://youtu.be/TRi9A1edi8o

Mentor name: Swiftpaw Sharpclaw [DnT]
Server: ’Murica.
Active dungeons: All. I tour from AC up to Arah.
Availability: I am sporadic, in Canada timezone but soon to return to Australia.
Contact: in-game mail preferred or whisper
Preferred Communication: On voice com
Message: I specialize in the guardian class, but can also teach other classes. I have a few expectations:

• Run the Meta. Guides are available via Youtube: Nike (War), Dekeyz (Ele) and Obal (Guard), Brazil (Ranger). If you have any questions regarding where to find these guides, ask me.
• Please be at least exotic quality for your zerker gear.
• My tactics can be different from your standard pug, efficiency is key.
• Utility swapping along with weapon swapping will occur often through out runs.
• Never be afraid to ask something if you don’t know.
• Be prepared to endure my language, I like to be offensive at every opportunity and swear often.. Rest assured however I am a nice person :)

spoj.9672:

All is vain.

-__-

Firstly. Running with pugs can be painful.

Pugs in general will be running trash builds and awful gear, they don’t care for efficiency. This means you are fighting that boss much longer than what you would be in an organised team of full zerkers. Pug guardians are often bad and cannot be relied upon.
Many will not cleanse your conditions, they sit there not giving a kitten about anyone else in thier cleric’s/pvt AH builds thinking they’re carrying everyone’s kitten.

My advice: Don’t take crap utilities because your pug is bad. Take better pugs.

When pugging, advertise as follows: ‘Tour- Zerk+scholar only, ping gear.’

Gear check every last one of them and have a strategy going into each dungeon. I tend to give quick and short commands that they can easily follow as we go. Pugs who run the correct gear most times have enough intelligence to understand this.

Now as for you personally. Remember, you have very high base health. Your weapon set should primarily be Axe/mace and greatsword. Greatsword gives you an evade on whirl. Axe 2 is also a whirl. This can be used in a light field for a chance at condi removal as well.

We don’t have these discussions anymore.

Atse that is complete and utter nonsense.

Drarnor Kunoram.5180:

I’m willing to bet a majority of the “skilled berserker” players wouldn’t survive long at all in PvP or WvW. .

Where do you get all this wisdom from regarding this subject?

Shizlam.4310:

Cat Has Ducks.1982:

Grok Krog.9581:

I only like Ranger’s when they’re using the proper things.

Spotter (gets me up to the 99% crit chance cap)

Frost Spirit. 7% extra damage is nice on top of all other damage boosts

Extra Fury/Blast Finisher Might from Warhorn.

Decent Vulnerability

and a Jungle Stalker for 5 stacks of party wide Might

This… And if a ranger joins my group with a bow equipped. They are insta booted.

Really? You kick a RANGER because he uses ranged weapons? It’s like saying i’ll kick a thief if he uses daggers.

Yep. I kick them too. As much as many want ranger to be useful with bow in dungeons… it’s not.

What we want doesn’t always = reality. Take it up with arena net.

Black Box.9312:

Nike Porphyrogenita.8137:

Not sure your point. The riders make the race. PvE in gw2 is more competitive than the PvP. Sorry to tell you, there are more and better PvE guilds in gw2 than PvP, so it’s as simple as that. If you enjoy playing GW2 and you are a gamer who enjoys competition, you play PvE.

As far as Dota2 goes, DnT is pretty good at that as well

This game’s PvE is so uncompetitive that you have to MAKE it competitive. I don’t see how you could possibly argue against that.

Same could be said about pvp, not seeing your point.

J Eberle.9312:

I cre evry tiem, pls 1 like =1 Preyer For Ths Por Defensles Gearr Set That Nobode Wantz.
If enugh lieks Jseus Will Com And Giv Swag <3

#FixRampager2014

I support this message.

Rampager gear really is in need of a look at. Also there should be some encounters that function around the use of this gear set.