Guild Wars 2

What if there are two separate servers and they are in the same location (both in america). One may have different routing protocols to main destination server vs the other, (the promotion of faster or different route paths to main server). Why? Maybe one network is configured to be more responsive to pings from EU. Also when we talk about servers are we talking about only one server per district? Like. One for EU and one for NA? Or are there conglomerates of servers all in one space for each NA and EU?

I cant find much info >_>

Atse I have 4 legendaries and I am craptacular..

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However I can dodge alphard >_>

@ Dog ,and now I remove this too. COVER MAH TRACKS

Keep the comments coming imo, I want this a top thread.

This sort of trash talking is just adorable, warms the koc-kles of my hearts it does.

Mirsa.1628:

TheMaskedParadigm.3629:

knives.6345:

J Eberle.9312:

knives.6345:

swiftpaw.6397:

knives.6345:

Now, apparently, moving a topic to a correct section is now wrong, because kitten logic. I may have missed that memo.

In true Gw2 forum style I say this to you.

’That’s just your opinion’

K. My argument about moving it into this section still stands.
Happy Sunday.

No. It doesn’t. Because it’s your opinion.

It is? Well, the Dungeon subforum description begs to disagree.

I noticed that the word “opinion” is being tossed around carelessly is most forums I have been. It’s usually used when someone has no more counter-argument to raise (sometimes, it’s name calling, ie: fanboy).

If I say GW2 sucks because it’s boring, that’s an opinion.
If I say Sunrise is better than Twilight because it’s more uncommon, that’s an opinion.
If I say that a dungeon post is correctly moved to dungeon section, it’s a fact simply because there is a forum description to back it up.

Look, I get what this thread is all about. I really do. I also get that OP wants to bring this to ANet, that’s why it’s originally posted on GD. I would’ve done the same. But when ANet’s mods did the right move, don’t QQ. For once they did something correctly.

Now, you all could QQ about devs not visiting this subforum for all I care, but moving the thread? Srsly?

You do understand that this is your opinion, right?

It’s your opinion that it’s his opinion.

Am I doing it right?

But it’s your opinion that it’s his opinion that it’s his opinion and that’s just my opinion.

Awkward :|

I don’t mind explaining runs.. So long as the individual runs the correct gear and traits. This can be setup in one sitting.

If you are after a decent guide on how to play your class in dungeons check out DeKeyz Ele guide. http://youtu.be/iAdPo-taEUQ

There are plenty of people willing to help teach runs, including filthy scumbag elitists such as myself however it’s best to avoid joining any old run and instead make your own specifying your situation.

How about splitting it’s functionality for spvp and PvE, it’s a detriment to the team in dungeons and hardly anyone is misinformed enough to use it. However it is powerful in spvp due to the very knockback people hate in dungeons.

That subforum already exists, it’s called the trashcan.

knives.6345:

J Eberle.9312:

knives.6345:

swiftpaw.6397:

knives.6345:

Now, apparently, moving a topic to a correct section is now wrong, because kitten logic. I may have missed that memo.

In true Gw2 forum style I say this to you.

’That’s just your opinion’

K. My argument about moving it into this section still stands.
Happy Sunday.

No. It doesn’t. Because it’s your opinion.

It is? Well, the Dungeon subforum description begs to disagree.

I noticed that the word “opinion” is being tossed around carelessly is most forums I have been. It’s usually used when someone has no more counter-argument to raise (sometimes, it’s name calling, ie: fanboy).

If I say GW2 sucks because it’s boring, that’s an opinion.
If I say Sunrise is better than Twilight because it’s more uncommon, that’s an opinion.
If I say that a dungeon post is correctly moved to dungeon section, it’s a fact simply because there is a forum description to back it up.

Look, I get what this thread is all about. I really do. I also get that OP wants to bring this to ANet, that’s why it’s originally posted on GD. I would’ve done the same. But when ANet’s mods did the right move, don’t QQ. For once they did something correctly.

Now, you all could QQ about devs not visiting this subforum for all I care, but moving the thread? Srsly?

There is nothing correct about moving something that belongs in general discussion to the dungeon forums simply because it has the word ‘dungeons’ in it. Btw weren’t you done here when you said

‘K.
My argument about moving it into this section still stands.
Happy Sunday.’

I’m right, you’re wrong, nothing you say will change my mind nah nah nah nah Happy Sunday.

Yes, we all have requirements.

However you will have a much better quality of group than your average zerk gear pug.

Jul I will add you to my list when I’m doing dead hour runs and need a fill in.

AM I COMING FIRST FOR CHARR?!?!

deSade.9437:

Meh, not partecipating anymore.

Totes jelly of my charr >:(

knives.6345:

It was moved because it’s about “Dungeons”?

Don’t QQ if they do something “right”. lol

It was originally placed in general discussion because it is a feedback thread regarding the lack of dev feedback in the dungeon forums.

This topic was placed in the discussion section because it is a discussion regarding the lack of developer input and it will be disregarded by developers in the dungeon section.

Don’t QQ if you don’t know the context.

The problem with that is if you are in a dungeon with 4 other people. You have the potential to ruin their fun by playing a poor build.

My cup of team is not carrying bads.

deSade.9437:

When I was told about this thread, I couldn’t believe in its existance.
I left the secure, warm lands of another subforum to face… face this… well.
It’s ridiculous how there are people out there still advocating the usefulness of berserker over good stat combos like cleric, knight or sentinel. Have you ever heard of a templar, a supporter, a divine warrior in other dungeons that’s wearing dps gear and speccing max dps? No?
The guardian is a supporter, first and foremost: you have to heal your team, protect it against your enemies. Svarty is right: you can’t play a build that requires dodges and using your cooldowns to save yourself or remove conditions while they should be used to heal your team; also, if you dodge you lose dps and you break aggro from the enemies, while you should be tanking them instead, doing damage to them so your team doesn’t take aggro.
This should be the ABC of guardians. I can’t believe at the amount of elitism in this thread… Pfff, dodging and blind.

NO ENCOURAGEMENT ALLOWED

I’m scared.

Colesy, hold me.

Svarty.8019:

fadeaway.2807:

It’s perfectly playable if you are good at dodging, don’t waste aegis, know when to blind, when to reflect, when to cleanse and when to shelter.

Oh sorry, I didn’t realise this class was solely for elitists. My bad.

lol dodging is elitism now.

Get the memo fade, geez.

Stop doing fractals. It’s like playing the slot machines.

Ropechef.6192:

0.o

I got infracted for telling Nike thank you…..

He offered learnings and I said thanks.

post deleted and infracted?

wow….

Welcome to Gw2 dungeon forums. Btw that will probably be infracted too.

Svarty.8019:

11k HPs on nearly all the best DPS builds?! IMHO That’s simply not playable.

Where do I even begin…

Caudacus’s manor :P

What about adorableness? T_T

Arnath.2319:

Tried that but its just not good enough.

Absolute Resolution and Purging Flames just dont compete when it comes to rapid condition removal that shouts provide.

1. Don’t waste them.

2. Condi cleanse priorities.

Weakest cleanses first.

Your team is at 95% health with some bleeds and vauln?
a.) Whirl finisher in a light field. (weak)

Your team now has more condis that are looking threatening, you’ve run through your light field/whirl?
b.) Purging flames. (Good but cast time, may require you to move to people)

kitten’s getting serious.
c.) Absolute resolution. (strongest)

kitten is getting real serious.
d.) Renewed focus, Absolute resolution again.

3.) Many attacks that cause conditions can be blocked with Aegis

You should not have an issue cleansing condis in any dungeon unless of course you are running in a team with no dps and fights take 10 times as long. In which case you will run out of kitten regardless.

I hope this is legible i have a huge migraine right now -_-

Oh I’m an kittenhole. These people knowingly join my party and then get mad when I ask them to ping their gear.

It’s akin to seeing dog excrement on the street and instead of ignoring it they jump on it and then roll around in it and scream ‘omg it stinks, I hate it, it’s horrible wtf is going on omg!’

Fror.2163:

swiftpaw.6397:

This is how I do it. My advertisement is usually along the lines of:

Zerk Gear + melee only- Scholar preferred -Gear checking- Touring multi dungeons.

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Sometimes I wish I was on NA just to see this happen. Swiftpaw in action at party-making must be epic

I take no prisoners.

beta until when?

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When it’s ready.

Guys, tell me more about stacking on alphard being faceroll, I enjoy it.

Btw, they are not exploits. And when referring to exploits, the new terminology is funploits.

Thankyou.

Omg yes so true. Wintersday event has seen a huge influx of poor players in play how you want gearsets and builds. Every time an AH guard/bearbow/venomshare/condimes I immediately throw up a little in my mouth and then kick faster than the speed of light. They always try to join when I’m selling people dungeon master titles and have no idea what is going on and leave without paying.

We must unite in solidarity.

Is he srsly saying.. that ppl should not stack for spider queen… -_-

all is vain.

Nikaido.3457:

Focus has 1200 range on ray of judgement. If you don’t use focus you’re already doing it wrong. Which makes staff #2 useless.
Empower is a terrible skill all around. In good groups it replaces longer lasting might stacks with crap. In bad groups.. those might stacks aren’t making up for the dps loss you’ll experience by not using sword/focus and greatsword. First, you’re losing out on vulnerability from the weapon blinds. Second fact is that in the more interesting content like fractals your bad group won’t even be getting those stacks, or at least, not the whole group, because they’ll be running like headless chicken and half of the group will be out of your range.
Skill #5 has its uses, but in the few situations that makes it useful you’ll usually be using hammer as one of your weapon swaps which makes it redundant with hammer’s ring of warding.

Staff guardians are the reason why I might consider putting out lfg with “No Guardians”. Like others have said on the forum, they have become more common than even the bearbow rangers. You’re more likely to get a decent ranger, warrior, [insert anything else] than a guardian who’s not hugging his staff and cleric gear. This gets old pretty fast.

Tbh I refuse to take pug guards at all now. I go on mine, and if one joins I insta-kick them like the plague. I’m done. I’m 110% done with pug guardians. Filthy leeches, all of them >:(

or or, you could just pull without staff.. That works too.

I honestly only use it for vine killing and tagging wraith lord mobs end of arah P3.

If you are running cleric’s guard you are encouraging bad behavior. Pugs will assume this is good, they can face tank kitten, they expect this is what guards should do, they start doing it on their guards as well, everyone gets stuck in a rut of bad.

I don’t think it’s the drop rate that is effecting the price so much as it’s the fact that hardly anyone ever does that path.. ever.

I feel as stated in the OP that the problem is when they run a ‘support build’ along with that staff, and then proceed to use staff as their main weapon. This is what (from experience I feel) the majority of pugs are doing when you see them with staff. When I see a pug guardian with staff, my hopes for them being decent suddenly plummet. Really though, most of them are bad regardless. Little to no virtues usage, no awareness of what’s going on, never taking the correct utilities for each fight, no condi removal/stability/reflections despite being ‘support’… -_-

I have actually seen more rangers running Sword/WH + frost spirit/spotter build than I have seen decent pug guardians.. Not sure how I feel about this.

Zelyhn, the infestation you mentioned is still here. Please don’t leave until it’s gone >_<

Furthermore, I say we replace a certain inaccurate sticky with DeKeyz’s guide.

Syn Sity.5826:

CntrlAltDefeat.1465:

Nikaido.3457:

mkaito.6981:

Everyone is DPS. There are no other roles in this game.

Or you can be a “staff guardian” and act like the in game equivalent of a flowerpot, useless, just standing in the corner of a room.

I might actually post “No-Guardians” on my lfg.. at this point I’d rather have condition necromancers..

You really don’t know what a guardian can do then. It is unfortunate for you that you’ve been paired with guardians that want to see big numbers rather excel at what they do best.

When i play guardian things I can personally guarantee;
No one will ever get one shotted by crusher
No one will ever fall during uncategorized fractal
No one will ever get poison blossomed to death/knocked down/dumped on in twilight.
No grawl will get through on fire shaman
no one will ever have more than 2 conditions for 10 seconds
stacking will work 90% of the time
everyone will have 12 stack of might/10 vulnerability when you need dps
bosses will be blind on their major attack

These are just what comes to mind. A good guardian won’t do much damage, but that is not their purpose. A good guardian can pretty much ensure no one ever dies unnecessarily. To list lfg-no guardians- is the most asinine thing to say. No other profession can bring this much to the table in one build with adjusting traits according to the environment.

The irony of this post is incredible.

Omg how did I not see this earlier, LOL

I don’t even know where to begin either.

P Fun Daddy.1208:

Anierna.6918:

DEKeyzToChaos.7381:

@Anierna: […] I didn’t bother with including a lot of my research. If there is sufficient interest, I can add it as an addendum.

I’d really like to see your research. You must have used something other than that modified Nike spreadsheet you linked; I was really disappointed when I saw how that spreadsheet had been designed. It’s not just the formatting that was at fault there, but the lack of clarity in assumptions and stat-breakdowns that lead to inaccuracies in EP maximization.

EDIT: I also noticed you haven’t yet fixed your Vuln-stacking LH build or your s/f LH rotation, as per my previous comments. You might want to get on that; the longer you wait, the more likely it is that people will read your guide and start using the wrong builds and rotations. We don’t want to spread misinformation.

Adding in variable optimization for each build should also be on your to-do list, but that will probably take a bit longer. I already optimized the variables for your LH and staff builds, here, but you’re on your own for your d/f builds.

Chill bro.

Agreed.

Btw Dekeyz, excellent guide well deserving of a sticky.

mkaito.6981:

swiftpaw.6397:

deSade.9437:

mkaito.6981:

trolling the LFG tool

What?

trolling the lfg tool?
Oh I know what he means, like when those bowbears and AH guard leeches join speedclear parties and waste everyone’s time.

Or when you set expectations such as 8k+ AP and ascended/zerker for even the easiest dungeons. Sure, it’s your party and you’re entitled to set whatever expectations you want to set. For all I care, you can ask for only people who drive Mercedes newer than 2008, and kick anyone who drives BMW. That doesn’t make it any less ridiculous, though.

When I join a party and get asked to ping my gear, I assume they are just looking for an excuse to boot me, and if it’s not my gear, it will be my build, or my character model. I just leave immediately, so they can continue to search for their ideal player.

This does not constitute ‘trolling the LFG’.

Trolling the lfg is when you join a party and try to disband it because you don’t like their description.

Trolling the lfg is joining parties without reading the description then getting upset and throwing a hissy fit because you expect people to roll over and just take you because you clicked ‘join’ without reading.

There is nothing ridiculous about stating what you want in the lfg description. If you don’t like it, that doesn’t automatically = trolling.

And.. please, get me a screenshot of someone kicking you simply for your character model, I literally lol’d.

Young Somalia.1706:

Really, Heitred is kicking? That dude joined on of my actual runs a couple weeks ago and added me to his friend list because he liked what he saw. He even sent me a Merry Christmas PM and some miscellaneous foods…

Then yesterday he joined a P2 I was selling and asked who to pay. I thought it peculiar, because he was plenty fine at Arah, and he said “brb switching” but never came back. I PMed him and he didn’t reply, either.

Although at the time, I had my alt and two prospective customers so perhaps he didn’t have the leverage necessary to break the instance? (Although as I recall, one person dropped alongside him; they may have been associates.)

I suppose this brings up the old question: does ignoring someone prevent them from reading your LEGs, or if not, at least from joining your party through LFG? I’ll have to be more vigilant if not.

He has tried to kick everytime we have seen him online, it’s literally all he does.

He was in LA the other day complaining about how he had no one to spend Christmas with, the guy’s got potato problems.

And nah, even if you block them they can still join you and kill your instance.

deSade.9437:

mkaito.6981:

trolling the LFG tool

What?

trolling the lfg tool?
Oh I know what he means, like when those bowbears and AH guard leeches join speedclear parties and waste everyone’s time.

JohnLShannonhouse.1820:

Sins.4782:

There’s a demand for the Arah tokens, so players are filling that demand. It keeps players who would rather not do Arah out of there, assuming they’re willing to pay for the convenience.

Rather not do Arah? I have trouble finding people who want to do Arah and are willing to teach new people. I have only found 2 groups in the past few weeks trying to do Arah that were not selling or demanding only experienced players (checking every time I have 3 hours).

Make your own party.

KazNaka.4718:

laharl.8435:

A lot of the US sell kicks come from one guy. He’s griefed dozens upon dozens of instances, and he’s still playing everyday. I find it unbelievable he hasn’t been banned yet.

cough heitred cough

I just spent the last 30 mins making fake parties and messing with a certain cough someone. He would keep joining and breaking the party up, meanwhile I would get legit buyers and send them on to my seller friend. Once i got suppressed because he had broken my party so many times I just simply logged onto another one of my accounts and did it all over again. I get this feeling he’s about the punch a fist through his monitor. Naturally I let him know when we got a party full of legit buyers along with how much money we made

laharl.8435:

swiftpaw.6397:

Well funnily enough I do have a list of good pugs, I was just explaining the method in general. I also play rather sporadically, sometimes at 4am, other times midday. Not everyone is always available. I keep a list of people with labels on them in my friends tab. Usually something like ‘Warrior Dungeon’ or ‘Mesmer Dungeon’ then I just type in the nickname and if I need for eg. a mesmer my whole list comes up. I like to keep adding more good pugs to my collection, I even add a few of the ones that weren’t as good because they show promise and are willing to learn more tactic wise.

Most times I just run with my guild tbh. I pug maybe once a week.

You can label people in your friend tab? I need to do this. I end up not knowing who’s who.

And op, advertising for “fast run” when you’re not even in zerker? C’mon. I joined a “full melee” arah p3 run a while back. Turned out to be a guild group. They safe spotted mage crusher and were fail melee at lupi. You can’t trust the lfg’s you join and you can’t expect people to respect your lfg. You always get people that won’t run zerker themselves but still want speed runs.

Yep, just right click their name and then select ‘Set Nickname’ on your list. Every time you type in that nickname it will come up with all the people you assigned that nickname. I do the same for people on my block list so that I know when the arah kickers are online and active.

Syn Sity.5826:

swiftpaw.6397:

Syn Sity.5826:

swiftpaw.6397:

Syn Sity.5826:

The quote states that berserker gear is the best and is necessary, not that it should be a starting point.

I’m not sure how to be more clear here.

Sometimes it seems that you seek out hostility.

By quoting you to support what I just said? :/

ok.

Sorry, I misunderstood that part of your post thinking that your comment was directed at me. Perhaps I am the one who seeks hostility.

I suppose I should have said,
’I’m not sure if I can be more clear than what Syn has said already.’

bleh

RaZaC.1963:

I’ve learned that most people on the forums do not know what they are talking about.

This came as a huge surprise to me.

I’ll take an add, r41

Young Somalia.1706:

Profit margin isn’t high enough. They wouldn’t even spend the money in the time it takes to say, “No.”

Pretty much true.

You see, designing dungeon armor sets does not appease the majority of their player base.

However, creating living story content does. Their focus is creating ‘new’ content every 2 weeks to drive the casuals back into the game to drop $$$ on the cash shop, where conveniently the black lion keys are for new weapon skins, and the new armor skins are as well.

Syn Sity.5826:

swiftpaw.6397:

Syn Sity.5826:

The quote states that berserker gear is the best and is necessary, not that it should be a starting point.

I’m not sure how to be more clear here.

Sometimes it seems that you seek out hostility.

By quoting you to support what I just said? :/

ok.