Ya, no.
Game Modes
We’ve had two alternate games modes (Courtyard and Stronghold). Both fell flat. If gameplay is interesting, lack of variety is acceptable. If gameplay is stale – like it is with HoT – then no amount of mode variety will make it interesting; new modes will just be a new toy that everyone abandons after a few weeks.
Courtyard wasn’t even a proper game mode it was just a new map made for pugs. Something like WoW arenas I would consider a proper game mode and not 5v5 but 2v2 and 3v3.
Stronghold was indeed a new game mode and failed hard.
Thanks for trying but this game needs a lot of clean-up work after the big mess HoT made to this game and I don’t think it will happen any time soon unless they wipe HoT entirely and do a restoration and bring us back to pre-HoT. GW2 had it’s chance, there was tons of feedback from the community same topics that are being discussed today 3-4 years ago. The pvp development for this game it is simply way too slow. A ranking system and matchmaking should have been a core part of the game since release.
If you want good pvp that is very like wow arenas 2v2 and 3v3 then I highly recommend battlerite best wow like experience pvp I’ve ever had since wotlk. BR is a pure arena brawler pvp game no mmo or pve junk just straight deathmatch at it’s purest form. Let’s be honest the mmo genre is dead when it comes to pvp I lost faith in this genre. GW2 pve is fine but the pvp sucks.
I don’t know why anet calls this garbage leagues, it doesn’t feel like a league system at all, why on earth do you need to play other players from other divisions, you play players from your division, this is just a re-skin of the same garbage system, anet you don’t show me an mmr I am not going to believe anything.
I play GS/Rifle with berserker amulet the damage is real high risk rewarding playstyle.
I will give it a try, ranked right now is like a wheel of fortune you get either people who know how to play or really bad players.
Still too much spamming and too many cheesy builds but I guess that will never change, matchmaking is very bipolar this is why I prefer smaller scale PvP 2v2 and 3v3 easier to make a team with a better matchmaking let’s be honest this game has a very low population for 5v5 so matchmaking will never be perfect.
I agree as well some professions will have it easier than others, if you want to do well play something that can rotate well and carry the team, it’s sad but that’s how this game is designed, I know the frustration supporting teammates who don’t do their job.
DH are very predictable that’s why, the trap system is very meh you rely on traps too much, pro teams know how to counter them, bad design in my opinion, vanilla guardian was better and more fun in my opinion, sucks HoT killed it.
HoT killed pvp and this game is pretty much done. Pre HoT we were on the right track we just needed soloq back and eliminate the celestial meta of course it wasn’t perfect but things were heading to the right direction slowly, now things are much worse the skill has dropped alot, way too much CC than before, more slows, more condition, the aoe is also kittened, why can’t this game be more single target everything is aoe in this game, conquest is a cluster with aoe spam, introducing specializations was a stupid mistake pvp never needed that but an overhaul on many exisiting abilities and better animations, but I guess the pve players really wanted those new toys.
I see Helseth is playing Blade and Soul. If anet thinks its acceptable to have leading players streaming other games over this break then they’re idiots, they should be trying to keep players in the game.
It’s sad how anet treats their competitive players, the few that are left.
I guess thats what you get if you play f2p games , poor support , no test servers….
BnS is pretty good (read: awesome compared to GW2).
Don’t promote that hentai game here… a game with a kittenty storyline,and kittenty pvp with no strategy at all. Come on calling that game crap is an insult to crap. That game is utter crap. Gw2 is light year ahead of BnS.
Actually that is problem of gw2. GW2 seem having huge balance issue everytime they implements something new patch due to so many classes and so many build diversity.
BnS is quite simple as compared to gw2, but idk, i found that game no depth as compared to gw2, but much more balanced than gw2. Becuz it is hard for ncsoft dev to balance as long as their game remains simple.
If you were dev what would you select?
1. Implement diversity, and have balance issue everytime you implement something new, resulting in people quit the game. But generally, game with diversity is more fun than simple game when balance is perfect.2. Make game simple, less build dependant game like BnS or LoL.
well idk. Having diversity is good and the main point why we play this game but sometimes it is disaster when it gets too complicated for even devs.
I agree but I wouldn’t compare bns to lol since one is a moba and the other is a failed MMO.
How is BnS a failed MMO? That game became an esports in Korea while GW2 never did anywhere.
That’s why I left this game, I check the forums once in a while and it makes me glad I made the right decision, one of the things that bothers me the most is the management of this game, decisions that don’t make sense with very little communication to what’s going on. A game that wants to be esports needs to maintain the competitive level always no matter what.
Anet if you guys want this game to be esports it’s time to let conquest go. Not only the balancing is horrible but this game has the worse game mode for esports also which doesn’t help with the balance at all. Time to get a piece of paper and start from scratch.
If GW2 PvP was that great it wouldn’t struggle in twitch viewers like it is now. Most of those 80k twitch viewers were PvE players waiting to see what shiny skins they were going to tease, the PvP scene died long ago.
Specializations never made sense to me from a design perspective, very bad design decision, to be honest what a waste of resources and time, instead they should have work on what they already had and improve balancing classes, all this game needed was a new class the revenant, and give new spells to the base core classes like utilities and that’s it, but we ended up with these specializations that ended up replacing the core builds, no wonder the PvP in this game is a joke now.
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One thing is the unbalanced mess, but why are we stuck with conquest? we should get more modes so that our enjoyment isnt purely based on balance, but also from playing new content and not the same stuff all over. And add dueling cages already in heart of the dead
You nailed it that’s the reason why this game isnt esports, what’s fun about conquest nothing not even close to the fun of arathi basin.
I just find it unfathomable that the same company that made this AMAZING combat system (basically the best action combat out of all MMOs, by far) and really innovative class concepts (ele is a rather avatar-y take on the typical mage, mesmer is really unique, guardian a unique take on the paladin archetype, etc.) fails so hilariously again and again at providing BASIC pvp needs like multiple builds per class, reasonable balancing (5 class changes per quarter year is unacceptable) or even just a basic league system.
Not to mention solo queue or even just the basic mechanic of actually being allowed to play the game while waiting for a tournament queue pop, instead of having to idle in some god forsaken place.
Best action combat out of all MMOs?? Let me guess you have not played blade and soul.
Just checked out Blade and Soul forums, looks exactly like GW2 forums. This is OP, that is OP. MMOs be MMOs.
Americans are whiners because blade and soul is too hard and requires skill unlike this game, most Americans who play MMOs are super casual. BnS is an esports in Korea for a reason.
It is p2w in a competitive PvP wise manner, anet is marketing this game as competitive and esports potential so it is p2w in my opinion, it would be much different if they just market the PvP of this game as typical fun pug PvP hang with friends type of thing just like other mmos but they don’t, so by definition it becomes p2w due to how they lie to the community, most MMOs are not p2w after buying an expansion because they don’t hype PvP like this kitten game does.
LoL Pay 2 Win?
Cause if you believe LoL is not Pay 2 Win then plz stop the hypocrasy
or proof me where my analogie is wrong
Where do I mention LoL? What I’m saying is that this game is p2w because of how they market the PvP a competitive and esports potential but at the end they give players who buy the expansion an advantage, the elite specializations are unfair for non HoT players who only play the game for spvp and believe in the esports hype from anet.
I just find it unfathomable that the same company that made this AMAZING combat system (basically the best action combat out of all MMOs, by far) and really innovative class concepts (ele is a rather avatar-y take on the typical mage, mesmer is really unique, guardian a unique take on the paladin archetype, etc.) fails so hilariously again and again at providing BASIC pvp needs like multiple builds per class, reasonable balancing (5 class changes per quarter year is unacceptable) or even just a basic league system.
Not to mention solo queue or even just the basic mechanic of actually being allowed to play the game while waiting for a tournament queue pop, instead of having to idle in some god forsaken place.
Best action combat out of all MMOs?? Let me guess you have not played blade and soul.
It is p2w in a competitive PvP wise manner, anet is marketing this game as competitive and esports potential so it is p2w in my opinion, it would be much different if they just market the PvP of this game as typical fun pug PvP hang with friends type of thing just like other mmos but they don’t, so by definition it becomes p2w due to how they lie to the community, most MMOs are not p2w after buying an expansion because they don’t hype PvP like this kitten game does.
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To the people crying over and over that this game is pay to win, I only have 1 thing to say to you.
Buy the god kitten game. It’s currently 44.99£ on the website. If you can’t afford that, then you probably shouldn’t waste your time playing games anyway, much less spend time on the kittening forums complaining about it.Arenanet is a company, with employees. As any coorporation with people on a payroll, they need money to come in. You complain about them adding new skins, new mini’s and even a new expansion. Is there no pleasing you? Insatiable kittens.
Rant over.
Why would some pay that amount just for spvp? There are many games that are esports and have free PvP.
Pro league teams should boycott and stop participating in esl tournaments and the world series as a protest to this joke of PvP we have but instead they are being puppets to anet. Who on earth would enjoy this stupid meta, I’m sure not even the top players are enjoying this meta, this is where I want to see the real gw2 community unite and pressure anet to fix and get their crap right.
They took a really long Christmas vacation leaving the game in a bad state, every player should do the same take a long vacation from this joke of a game. Time for me to quit this game and hopefully by 2016 I might find something I will enjoy pvpwise, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Funny how everyone says warrior is easy to play but right now it’s actually one of the hardest classes to play just because of how underpower they are compared to the non skill faceroll professions.
Ten days? I played since launch and this game still a joke when it comes to PvP. Want to play competitively guess what you need to purchase HoT lol nice f2p model.
I agree with your points. I don’t know why anet named this system “leagues”, those are not real leagues but a grind fest, in a real league system you advance or drop to a different division, I don’t like the idea of staying forever in a division if you lost all your games, then what is the point of a league system? Can somebody tell me what is the point of having a league system. Gw2 is the most disappointed mmo for me when it comes to PvP from launch all the way to the league system it has been about grinding and no real PvP progression system. There is no real progression in this game compared to other real PvP games. Rocket league got their league system right an indie game and yet anet can’t get anything right even after 3 years, anet as a company should be ashamed, they have no love for this game, I can name some development companies who really care about the gamers, anet only cares about the gem store.
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Yea no balance patches, we have teams farming pugs, warrior is dead and most core builds suck now. HoT is just a pure marketing scheme, no wonder they don’t want to balance HoT builds right now because they are still making some money from HoT. This is all marketing if you don’t see it than you’re blind open your eyes people, it’s time we open our eyes, don’t believe in everything anet says.
This game is getting worse every time. I am just waiting for the release of BnS here in the west.
Didn’t happen with skyhammer it won’t happen with leagues, sad but true.
Why are elite specs even allowed in ESL and pro league? Sorry but reasons like these are why this game is not esports but more of a joke. You have to buy the expansion in order to take advantage of the situation , this is a p2w game now, those who don’t see it are blind, just take a look at the meta. I’m not touching pvp.
Ok, most elite specs are too strong, and balance is in a bad state.
That being said, this p2w argument is ridiculous. Even if elite specs were balanced, you could not be a competitive player without trying the new builds to know how they play. So you would need the expansion anyway. Every game with expansion requires you to get the expansion to keep up. GW1 did it, for example.
That’s why this game should stay as b2p then, my argument is if they want to make the PvP side of the game f2p then it needs to be balanced from core to HoT, this game cannot be esports if they give HoT players an advantage that is my argument, if they are spending money on this world series tournament and pro league it means anet wants to give this game another shot at esports potential but I’m afraid they aren’t capable enough to balance the game specially right during the intial HoT stage. This is the stage where balancing needs to be in priority list, if they don’t do anything players are going to leave again just like it happened during launch, so at the end they would be making the same mistakes all over again.
PvP is at it’s worst state to be honest, balance was decent before HoT but now just avoid PvP is what I am telling people who want to come back. If you want to be very competitive guess what you have to buy HoT, they used PvP as pure marketing just like they did at launch with so much hype and new elite specs which were suppose to be an alternative to core builds not an upgrade to them, on top of that they don’t tell us nothing on why elite builds are superior to core builds. I don’t know man but this game after 3 years I don’t see progression compared to other games who do care about PvP.
Why are elite specs even allowed in ESL and pro league? Sorry but reasons like these are why this game is not esports but more of a joke. You have to buy the expansion in order to take advantage of the situation , this is a p2w game now, those who don’t see it are blind, just take a look at the meta. I’m not touching pvp.
I hope this league system isn’t just a re-skin on top of the old leaderboard system or it will be such a fail lol.
Conquest is such a kitten game mode. Warsong gulch wasnt balanced but it was infinitely more fun to play AND watch
I agree Watson gulch was the most fun I had in mmo PvP same with arathi basin. Anet can’t do anything right when it comes to PvP.
Bull rush needs to have longer range and actually hit and lower it’s cooldown to make it 9 seconds and rush 7 seconds. Give warrior a new F3 and call it defensive stance similar to warriors in WoW and once you enter defensive stance you adquire endure pain, berserker stance, maybe some blocks and so on, I think that would fix warrior.
100% quickness yes please, warrior at launch was the most fun I’ve ever had with warrior so why not let’s take a look at how much burst the other classes do without being punished reminds me of launch why not bring it back. Mobility is also a problem, out of all the builds melee warrior suffers the most.
The game was fine before without too much CC, now it is becoming like WoW.
Sorry but you are not a guild. Just having two people is not considered a guild. You’re just wasting your time, after you adquire the guild there isn’t much 2 people can do, nothing for you guys to enjoy than just see an empty map.
Here’s a problem with guild halls.
Small guilds should get a small map version of the same guild hall but as a trade off they can spend less for it and make it like it’s not a grind. Think about small guilds getting a huge map that will always feel empty, dead, and ugly because it’s too expensive doesn’t make sense. I rather see a small space but with great social interaction within the guild, at least with smaller sized guilds. Let’s take another example small guilds who only do PvP would only want the guild hall arena, why would they want the whole map for.
Anet should give small, medium and large prototypes of the same guild hall theme. If you don’t want to spend a lot and you’re a small guild than option A would be more adequate for example. At least for me what matters is to have a great social experience within a guildhall, I do not care about the size of it, I just want it to be something where my guild can relate to.
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Too many particle effects.
They have to remake whole the warrior class to be honest, from weapons to traits and so on, it has a very bad outdated design no wonder everyone claims warrior is like the easiest class to learn, even a kitten can play warrior, it’s like if anet used it as a basic prototype guideline to make the other classes during game development of some sort and relied from there while giving other classes more fun and interesting mechanics.
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Usually in unkanked, the main reason why you’re getting wrecked is mainly because ranked is temporary disabled and players who do ranked have no where to go so they queue up in unranked so we end up having 2 different crowds in one queue and matchmaking is really bad. Hotjojns are toxic but right now there is no other place to be so no choice or just wait until they implement leagues and hopefully we will get a good matchmaking system.
Wouldn’t work, there are PvP players who have never done PvE why should they get punished just to favour PvE players, instead I rather see PvP related rewards.
Ok here are my reason why I have stronghold unckecked, some player might relate to this.
1. No kittening soloq!!!!! Why on earth do a soloquer have to get punished against premades specially in this map where communication is crucial, at least in conquest having no soloq as well but I am able to have a better winning ratio compared to stronghold.
2. No kittening templates really anet nice one what a fail, let’s give them a big applause after 3 years still no build templates. Sometimes I want to play this map coming from conquest but I want to change builds at the instant.
3. Stronghold requires communication, playing with pugs is a frustration, we need game in-voice or some sort of command system. An indie game got it right why can’t you guys. Conquest needs this very badly but stronghold even more.
4. The channelling is really stupid, let’s ignore the player because I am tanky. Instead it should be who ever wins the fight get’s the channel would be more entertaining to watch. Cancel channelling when hit easy learn from WoW. Just imagine watching this on twitch one guy getting hit while channelling and standing there with perma stability up yeah very boring to watch.
5. Trebuchets, those belong in wvw, don’t bring that crap here.
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Revenant is in a good place right now which surprises me are you sure you’re playing revenant and not warrior?
Courtyard needs it’s own queue and be TDM like in WoW 2v2 and 3v3, someone with a brain can make something good out of it, but for anet is easier to nerf and kill builds and eliminate maps.
Becareful of what you ask for. When Anet nerf things, they tend to destroy builds. Players will always use the best builds. If it’s not Dragonhunter, it’ll be Burn Meditation Guardian again. I hate to see classes get nerfed to the point that players switch their main, like what we are seeing with Warriors. Players complain about Hambow, then adrenaline nerfed happen, then shoutbow, another nerf to shouts, then it was rampage warrior complaints, well that’s nerfed too. Now warriors got nothing left. That’s why I don’t support nerfs, I want them to buff other professions and give them means to counter. I rather all professions have many viable builds to use, like mesmers do.
Arena should focus on making must-have traits baselines so that it free up more build diversity.
I totally agree, most nerfs from anet ended up destroying builds, here’s another one the turret engie nerf and guess who had problems with turret engies yes the same players you see here complanining about DH, none of the top players had problems with turret engies it was the same casual crowd making the noise, at the end anet took action and destroyed another build.
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