Arenanet should fix and/or balance things like guild banners, elites, professions, skills, removing DBL and adding back Alpine map, removing HoT gimmicks in WvWvW, etc first before they think about merging servers.
Merging servers should be the last thing that Anet needs to worry about at this moment in time.
imo i think abl, dbl, and eotm should all be on a rotation. obviously some things need to be fixed on the dbl and eotm to make this possible. i think separating eotm completely was a horrible idea and only served to fracture the playerbase. each month would ideally start and end on alpine.
eotm is much better than dbl, A-net needs to scrap DBL completely.
i am a pvx player, and a regular gem buyer. Haven’t touched gw2 for more than 6 months. I’ll come back to gw2 if they bring back Alpine BLs and remove all HoT crap gimmicks they introduced to wvw (banners, guild claims, auto-upgrades, locked wps, foods buffs, removal of guard stacks) etc .
Yes, want Alpine bordeland back, CLEAN from any HoT (though I preordered that and “happy” owner)
Never want to see the Desert Borderline ever, because:
1. navigation is like a puzzle, traps, verticality, long one way routes that takes up most of playtime with no action – except walking, jumping
2. full of ideeas fitting into PvE, such us environmental traps, jumping puzzles, difficult or impossible to flank – chokes on chokes all over, and so on – which contributes to a map versus player feeling, unacceptable on a map that should encourage competitive PvP
3. for a full list contact me, I feel it’s a waste of time giving feedback here on this – but nr.1 on my list is enough to not want to see these kind of maps ever again, and it’s not fixable – same like the EoTM map
Also want the Eternal Battlegrounds cleaned up from all that HoT PvE features:
- PvE guild upgrades like disneyland ships, banners, everything
- You can even take away good things like the protection aura around dolyaks when escorted because the bad things so much overwhelm the good parts that would be a relief to get rid of all HoT.
Want the old WvW back, the one before stability changes and power creep patches, new HoT class “balance” and all the HoT, everything.
Start over and this time test new things step by step, and look at reactions… and act based on results. I know it’s too late already, but maybe some future developer in a future game will read this…
+1
I would go further back then stability change. i believe A-net should re-roll WvW back to its pre-release days, minus the culling.
1. Remove Desert BL and bring back Alpine BL
2. Balance professions
3. Bring back the old auto upgrade system
4. bring back Alpine BL
5. bring back Alpine BL
It makes more sense now when A-net said “later this year” for the release of WvW overhaul; A-net is very busy working on “Gliding in Central Tyria – 13 January 2016”. The priority is always PvE likealways. They are still trying to add new content to PvE while the broken game mode aka WvW, which has been broken for many years now is left in the shadows, remains on life support and doctors say ‘it doesnt have long to live’.
Anet’s language vs Actual Definition
(1) “We are working on it” They haven’t started and they have no clue what needs fixing
(2) “Soon, Soon, upgrades soon” Next expansion
(3) “Some time later” Never
(4) “We notice there is a problem” ‘Where is the problem? ohhh lets give them golem week, there you go, problem solved’
(5) “GW2 is different to other mmos, there is no grinding.” Introduce ascended weapon/armor sets, new legendary skins/back items etc aka more grind fest
Anet’s language vs Actual Definition
(1) “We are working on it” They haven’t started and they have no clue what needs fixing
(2) “Soon, Soon, upgrades soon” Next expansion
(3) “Some time later” Never
(4) “We notice there is a problem” ‘Where is the problem? ohhh lets give them golem week, there you go, problem solved’
(5) “GW2 is different to other mmos, there is no grinding.” Introduce ascended weapon/armor sets, new legendary skins/back items etc aka more grind fest
If Anet thinks implementing megaservers as the solution to fix the current wvw imbalance then we should expect to see a lot of problems in the near future.
I’d rather have the old orbs than the ruins! They never got rid of the hackers, remove one, two more appear.
I say go back to launch settings, but update with the culling, lag, and optimisation settings; and updates we want, not what they want!
silly as it might sound i would rather have the original wvw map with hackers than an empty, pve oriented, vertical map any day any time.
addition to the original post
More than hundred feedbacks were given on the new dessert borderlands map during each stress test and Anet being Anet has ignored and thrown out every single feedback out the window. this shows how much they dont care about wvw and people who play their game. well then again i am not surprised, this is Anet that we are talking about.
wvw has been neglected for far too long and its been damaged beyond repair. i dont know it seems like Anet was trying to kill wvw since launch and after three years they managed to do so. kuddos to them for their persistence and hard work *sarcasm. Unfortunately there is no way for Anet to recover from this point onwards because all the changes they made after fixing culling has been disastrous. the only possible solution left for Anet is defaulting, nothing more.
I jumped on my cousin’s gw2 account and I saw the horrors of wvw. Here is what I have to say:
To solve the current wvw dilemma it only requires A-net devs to hit the default button believe it or not. Let me tell you something. if i am experiencing any problems with my router/modem or any electrical appliance and if i know with any doubt that there is no way for me to fix it, i simply get a sharp pointy knife and use the tip to reset the router to the factory settings. Yes, we need Anet to restore wvw to factory settings. wvw has been neglected for long, long time and the ugly side is now showing. Anet team being ignorant as they are has shot themself on the foot more than 3 years ago when they started ignoring all the feedbacks that wvw community was presenting to them. Now the blood running from the foot has taken its toll and wvw is officially dead.
Lets face the reality, I believe this is the only and workable solution that Anet team can achieve at this point of time. i believe the original wvw was much better in all books compared to the current wvw, well minus the culling.
TLDR Reset wvw to default (bring back the orb, trebbing bay from garrison, quaggans etc) and ontop of that Anet needs to increase the rewards for the remaining dedicated wvw players by implementing reward tracking system similar to pvp, introducing ascended/legendary armor/weapon sets, and finally they need to start listening to the wvw community even though I believe that is too late now.
I keep hearing rumors about a “massive wvw overhaul.” I don’t know about the rest of you, but unless I hear some official news or update from anet soon, I’m done with gw2. Last couple days, I don’t even log in. I just just check TS and if it is empty, I don’t waste my time entering wvw.
Its a big fat Anet lie. They made many promises in the past and they failed to deliver on every occasion. Like i said before ‘i wont believe it, until i see it’. It was three years ago that Anet shot herself on the foot by neglecting WvW and not listening to the community. Now they ran out of blood. Gl HF
i have not played gw2 for 3 – 4 months. I knew WvW wont get too much recognition from Anet devs even with HoT. They promised us many times for the past 3+ years that we are going to get new content, maps, reward system and on every single occasion they failed to deliver on their promise.
and blocking spammers whispering to me about selling gold. The amount of people whispering has skyrockted after Anet decided to make gw2 F2P. Gold spammers dream has finally came true.
I dont know the status of NA servers but i hope A-net keeps the top three tier EU servers full for at least a year in order to allow a shift in the wvw population to lower tiers.
Well done A-net you should of done this before. But now fix the lag. Thank you.
Anet please reduce the cap again. The ‘lag is real’ and unplayable. A lot of people are complaining in-game about the lag, come on listen to wvw players and revert the population cap back to what it was before.
First of all I would like to thank A-net for inviting me to last week’s beta-stress test on desert borderlands. After being idle from the official gw2 forums for more than 2 years I want to give my personal feedback on the desert borderlands.
Here is my feedback
Bug/s
• The lord champion in SW tower of Red Bl’s was teleporting across the lord’s room whilst we were fighting him. We had around 5-6 people inside the lords room at the time of incident.
IMO things that need slight changes
• Fire and air keeps are too big and it is hard to distinguish between inner and outer walls. I believe adding different texture/colour to inner and outer walls will make things a lot easier to distinguish between them.
• Finding supply depots in all three keeps is very hard to locate. Adding mini-icon on the mini-map will do the trick I believe.
• The walls are too vertical and high. Omega golems cannot clear the siege on the walls. Two enemy players managed to prevent a zerg from capping a tower for more than 30 mins.
• The fire keep lord is too strong, I believe a reasonable nerf is required.
• The knockbacks on air keep is ridiculous.
• Fortified walls can look better by adding sharp wire like figures and/or statues. Well that is not a major concern but I will look cooler.
Overall – Negatives
• the map looks too big and complicated.
• The map is too vertical
• It is more eotm map than wvw.
• Too much pve
• A lot of mobs and few places for open field fights.
Expectations/Wants
• Similar to eb where no server gets spawn/citadel advanatage.
• Less pve and more pvp/wvw.
• Three different maps not same.
From this moment onwards my fellow Australian mates and I, will be quitting gw2 for good. Anet has nerfed my main character, d/d ele to a point where she is pretty much useless now in WvW. I spent 100g to get the commander tag on my ele but it seems like it was for nothing.
We wish Desolation all the best on their journey. I had good time in Desolation especially running along with IRON. And good luck to SFR and Vizunah. Thanks for the good competition. This is the last time i’ll ever write in the forums.
they killed my main character D/D Ele…i spent 100g to get commander tag on my ele and now she is pretty much useless in WvW. Anet killed my main character so i quit gw2
Ok after multiple times trying to finish this jumping puzzle (being attacked every time I try) I decided to set my alarm and do it in the early morning. I finally make it to the end but I can’t open the chest because it says it’s locked. Is there a key or something I’m not aware of? I know there’s 2 halves of a key for the jp in the 3 outlining zone chests but I didn’t know of one needed for the EB jp. Am I missing something here? Is this chest account-wide so you can only open it once per day?
yes, its now account bound after last patch update. can only do one character per day
Anything that cuts down on blobs derping down gates is a good move.
It’s like some people here have never heard of cats and trebs to get into places…
There are some people here not knowing what is fun about playing wvwvw…
I like a good siege myself- much more fun than blobbing up and zerging towers in some karma train.
But….it all depends who has the bigger blob. The server with greater number will eventually take down the tower or keep but it will take a bit longer than pre patch days. But re taking the lost tower/keep for smaller servers is going to be impossible now.
PS this isnyt going to stop the karma train but slow it down.
4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.
Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…
But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever (until Troma dies).
This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.
I really expect Desolation and SFR to fall in T2, to give us some fresh air.
Yes, Deso/SFR will eventually fall in a few weeks, until that happens, wvw will be boring except for the lucky few of Viz who get into EBG.
When the one server drops you can expect the upgoing server to try their best to DROP right again, means not fighting, more boredom.
Some ppl already checking out other games, not even bothering to log in…
i have already jumped the ship. i havent logged on to gw2 for a month now. I go on the forums and check whats going on. CSS is a good game xD, im back to FPS.
Can you please drop desolation to tier 2 or reset the servers. No one in Desolation wants to be in tier 1 anymore. We lost many players and guilds. We cant afford to lose more. We are pretty much a T2/T3 server but stuck in T1. Yours Sincerely, AT
I am so glad I transfered now, I feel pitty for Deso and SFR having to fight the master of siege: Vizunah. It’s even laughable really.
I see 3 possible way:
-get a 80-100 blob to take things so the AC damage is spread out. (PvD ofcourse rams can’t be build)
-keep moving from tower to tower till you find an empty one and hope you can cap it before some people show up. (oh the joy empty PvD)
-nightcap the hell out of you enemies and siege up. Switch your sleeping rythms (yea…that ain’t gona happen…)
All other options will be countered by 5-6 decent defenders. And yea, Vizunah has scouts in every structure like 24/7, that is why I feel sorry for Deso and SFR :p.
Yes i agree, this patch is going to favour servers that use siege weapons the most like Vizombie. Vizunah is going to PvDoor Deso/SFR in the morning as always and build trillions of siege weapons inside. We poor Deso players going to have nightmare trying to cap our own NE and NW towers in our deso bl. This patch isnt going to help Deso or SFR
Seems like every patch, WvW is becoming more zerg and blob friendly, while roaming and small fighting groups like us getting annihilated from the face of the earth. mesmer nerf. ele nerf. guardian nerf. whats next? i dont understand the reason why anet favours zerging servers. zerging isnt fun. cant use anything except hitting 1 1 1 1 1 in blob fights. Thanks to Anet, the enemy BLOB can now take down t3 towers/keeps faster and easier then before (in less than 30 secs) before anyone can respond. This is definitely going to favour golem rushing servers or servers with greater number, Vizunah cough* cough*
Siege weapon despawning in 30 mins, i dont see the point of building siege weapons anymore. I knew it used to despawn somewhere between 30 mins to 6 hours of inactivity but it was not 30 mins all the time. In off peak we dont even have more than 3 people in one map let alone have enough people going around refreshing siege weapons. i never thought i would say this but i miss the good old BWE days where WvW was fun and entertaining.
im sorry but i dont agree with the OP. This is a good step for stopping enemy forces from golem rushing. If you want to capture an objective you need to play smart. Not fast! Better option, remove alpha and omega golems from the game completely. Yours Sincerely, AT
I cant wait to read tomorrow’s patch notes. And see what chanages they made. like i said in the previous thread this is make or break for me. If im not happy with the changes, im sorry to tell Anet that i’ll be moving out for good.
im waiting for tomorrow’s patch and see what changes they made to gw2 especially to WvW content. This is make or break for me. We been crying out loud since BWE days the things that needs improvement in WvW but we got zero. All they did was remove orbs, introduce skill lag and make some pointless wvw rank which is character bound.
Havent touched gw2 for 3-4 weeks now, if Anet doesnt listen to us im sorry but they wouldnt give me no other option but to jump the ship which i believe i already have.
3 weeks ago (week 14), T1 EU looked pretty balanced why the fuss now?
Anyway, Give it another week, you are only 20 Points from T2 as it is, and Deso is looking to lose another 10 points this week, if you put some effort into it you can drop faster, I mean 130K last week is you guys trying to earn some points there.
The rating difference between last position of T1 and first position of T2 is getting wider, wider and even more wider every passing week because servers in T2 are fighting ‘not’ to go up to T1. Look at the rating difference between Vizunah and Deso/SFR its more than 250 points and compared that to NA T1.
Whatever SFR and Deso are or aren’t, it doesn’t really matter.
Now that they are for sure no longer 2nd and 3rd best EU-server (I guess they are around 10-15), they should go the way to their place.
That not only one but two servers are stuck in a rank they don’t earn since weeks, just shows how badly broken the match-making is now and how urgently it needs a fix.
i agree we belong somewhere between t3-t4 but we re stuck in t1 for eternity.
Well perhaps “winner moves up/loser moves down” is the only solution to this “problem”. At least there is no reason for servers to be afraid of getting stuck in tier 1 with Vizunah that way.
That sounds like a good idea but thats a hot ’ temporary’ fix. We need something more permanent. But i can take that solution anyday now.
Many of Elona decided to stay in T2 and stopped playing this week. Anyway, a T2 without a french nightcapping server would be great.
Thats the problem. There isnt even one sever from EU wanting to move to t1. For that reason we are dieing slowly. But i dont blame my Elona friends for not wanting to move up.
Just’d like to know what’s your definition of “good fight”.
We dont care about good fights anymore we just want to get out from this mess before T1 becomes dead. We lost alot of hardcore wvw guilds/players and everyday we are losing more and more guilds/players. thanks to the glicko rating system we cant go down. By the looks of it we are stuck in T1 for good with no servers from T2 wanting to move up. thats the problem.
i like desolation i dont want my server to die because of GLICKO! Anet please consider something. This is more important than the super adventure toy w/e its called.
PvD, another problem with a lot of nice proposals in the forum since month, just that nothing happens.
1) dynamic scoring, weight the score by the number of players in WvW
2) dynamic maps, only have as many maps active (can be entered, captured, count
for scoring) as 2 of the 3 server could fill with people, would solve the queue
problem as side-effect, if more than 4 maps are allowed in primetime
To be honest with you PvDoor isnt the problem. We from Desolation dont play for points unlike NA servers. We play for fights! Unfortunately we dont get good fights anymore. When a Viz blob of 60+ comes across a group of 20 Desolations they run inside their towers/keeps and they have like million siege inside no joke. And when they get more reinforcement of 40+ more Viz zerg they decide to come out of their tower (now 100+ Viz Gigantic Blob) against 20 desolations and they eventually wipe us with the help of skill lag. like that wasn’t enough they then jump on our bodies like they achieved something great even though we were badly outnumbered 5:1.
We dont want to be in this tier anymore, you can ask any person from desolation. they will agree with me more or less.
God… All these T8-NA comparisons…
Please, someone, go and formulate a variety of Godwins Law for T8-NA.
“As soon as someone got no backing for his claims, he will start using T8 NA as a reference.”
^Yes, I know, I suck at this.
what do you mean using NA t8? SF was stuck in t8 for many months until A-net decided to manually adjust the points so SF can go up and HoD go down.
We dont want to be in this tier. why is anet forcing us to stay here when no one wants to fight the French server, VS. I have nothing against Viz. they play the game the way anet wants us to play i.e. one big BLOB.
Not too long ago we know that NA t8 was a horrible mess with so many problems in terms of lopsided matches but guess what? The same virus has infected EU t1. We can call this a T-Virus if you wish (people from EU t1 and t2 know what I mean by that). Every EU server except Vizunah Square is trying to avoid t1. Servers from t2 are fighting ‘not’ to go to t1 while servers in t1 like desolation and SFR are fighting to go down a tier. Desolation including SFR has lost a lot of hard core wvw guilds in the past couple of weeks. And we are still losing people every passing day. A lot of people I know from Deso has already quit gw2 because t1 is staled and boring. Even if we try there is no way in the world we can drop down to t2 thanks to the glicko system. We are stuck here for good which makes me sad. If Anet doesn’t step in now, EU t1 will be a zombie town and I mean it.
(until Troma dies).
