Guild Wars 2

The build itself is nice, but im not seeing eye to eye on a few things.

The ice sigil I just cant see being worth it in any circumstance due to its proc rate and cooldown?

The greatsword itself, the cooldowns and animations are so long how is it favourable over a staff?

Topic says it all…

Why does it seem with this expansion the build variety on every single class has boiled down to the elites…

While I appreciate the druid, is it really an option?

“After 3 weeks of (almost) daily pvp, 333 matches”

On average what is the queue time? Lets say 2 minutes
What is the average time for each match? Lets say 15 minutes
100 Games per week…

To Sum this post up… part time job.

Saiyan.1704:

Current Leagues are not for solo players.
Current Leagues are not for the average 50 winrate.
Current Leagues are not for casuals.
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Can you direct me to where Anet has said this? Or is this you expressing your opinion here… sorta kinda similar to a solo q player would by posting a thread here.

Wanted something completely different going into the expansion and made just that.

Conditions:
On the weapon swap using hydromancy/purity there is a 60% chance at removing a condition on swap if the hydromancy hits.
Heal as one, Guard, Protect me & Strength of the pack will all remove 1 condition
Glyph of Equality will spawn a seed of life that will heal and remove conditions from allies

Movement: Guard will apply swiftness. Staff 3 for extra movement
Stunbreakers: Using 2 here Protect me which is great for when youre focused. Glyph of Equality.

Dazed & Disrupt
Shortbow 5 – 2 second daze & 2 second stun + root/immob
Staff Weapon Swap – 2 second daze + root/immob
Glyph of Equality – 4 Second daze + root/immob
Pink Moa – 2 Second daze + root/immob/weakness
Stomps:
Strength of the pack for stability.
Use staff 5 and stomp from behind it for healing on projectile.

Blast finishers:
You can get retaliation, stealth, Area Healing

Pet swap will also give quickness/3 might which goes great with both staff and shortbow
Weapon Swap gives Fury/swiftness 3 might also, again great for the weapon set

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vNAQJAWVnUqA9CiVsC2CCctglFBDeqeV/qLXuAwg7JK06eZlMtcA-TJBIABWXGAgnAQBXCgc2fAA

Condi PU Mesmer. Easily.

Not bashing the game. Not bashing the developers.

Overall a great experience for a lot of game time hours. I can’t justify supporting the game expansion being a solo pvp player.

Please, hotjoin is not an option.

Sure there is a meta which changes once every 8 months when the 1 part time employee at anet goes in for their 3 hours that week.

That aside, where is the variety now for hotjoin/solo q be it ranked or unranked.

Condi warrior? Seems to be dead in the water and extremely ineffective at the best of times.

Shoutbow? Again seemingly dead?

Is there anything, I mean anything that is 75% as effective as the meta that gives a large enough difference in gameplay that you dont feel pigeonholed into GS/Hammer.

With the vast selection of amulets and runes/weapons I dont understand how there isnt builds with a higher efficiency that would be just slightly behind meta… not THIS far behind.

Hello necro players.

There is a lot of posts of condi and power necros, even bunker.
I would love to see the undying necro. Damage is not a concern… as the entire idea is to last/sustain as long as possible.

Build/show me the best/optimal setup for a necro that could survive the most damage/focus without dying…

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Yup take the anet employee and have them clean toilets for a year… this is what they need.

It was fun for what? An hour tops… after that its really boring.
There is little to no player vs player engagements.
Roaming is nearly dead.
Havoc is dead in the water as there is no point to flipping supply camps or small scale stuff.
Taking literally everything out of wvw that was fun and replaced it with mindless running.

For real, take this event and shove it anet.
Want to do some stupid event like this, do it on one of the BL’s not all. This way you can keep all parties happy.

Everyone wants to build for damage or mid way… So hard to really know about all the classes with this new patch…

can anyone else chime in on what they think is the unkillable frontline build

Brighteluden.2974:

I’ve always solo roamed on my necro and I’ve never had any issues killing off most classes 1v1, so you’re just doing it wrong. I believe the only time I’ve had issues are with warrior who’s running GS/Sword and board With zerker stance and rampage amongst and is able to disengage enough times to drain my life force and then return back to finish me off. I’ve had a few issues with mesmers but not much recently. I’am running a terrormancer with perplexity runes though, so again I feel I have the upper hand in most fights as it is.

you havent encountered a half decent lb zerk ranger than.

What is your opinion of the tankiest self sustain class/specs in wvw.

Regen Warrior?
Cleric Ele?
Life Force Necro?
Shout Regen Ranger?

Let me know, im looking to play something that just lives, damage is not a concern!

Sagat.3285:

You said solo roaming the game is not balanced for solo encounters even though they happen most of the time but yes I did notice the same thing.

Can anyone direct me to where anet offishally announced what they balanced the game around and if they mentioned it solo play.

You will not win vs a ranger.

I say this with 3000 hours of pvp in wvw/spvp as a former ranger… now necro.
Its bad design to have burst, cripple and 2 defensive abilities on the longbow. I literally never have to switch from longbow vs a necro unless im swooping in for a finish.

That all said, when people say a ‘good’ ranger… I have yet to see any ranger that really separates himself from the crowd of longbow players. At least not like I have with many other classes in this game.

Come on….

/15 nades

Game will collect dust until this is fixed.

Is there any word on if this is being looked into/fixed?

That said, I really hope someone uses it in the next ESL tourney to give anet a little wake up call…

Meh, the playerbase of db is brought down by these players who will not engage in pvp unless they outnumber you by more than 2:1.

Its boring to fight this realm, I welcome the fact a lot of them will split up and divide the collective suck. Leaving players that want to fight.

Alo Mes community.

Small introduction, I go by the handle Three Minutes. I mained a ranger for 2+ years in spvp and wvw. Loved the class no complaints.

That said, with all the tomes/scrolls I thought id try a mesmer for the 1st time. Where else can you play anything close to it?

Now that ive given this class a fair shake, im addicted… ADDICTED.

I love both the power builds and condi, as the core mechanics of the class are similar but enough to keep the flavours different enough to change it up.

Anyhow Im bouncing between MtD mesmer and Shatter. (tried a bit of ross’s phantarupt).

I stream a fair bit @ www.twitch.tv/chompstomp

That all said, if you have tips/tricks or anything you learned feel free to tell me in game or in stream.

Keep posting your vids folks, I watch them all and try all the builds. Once im comfortable enough with this class i hope to join in with conversations here.

Cheers

Fluffball.8307:

Oh hey. I think I saw you playing this on stream a couple weeks ago.

That sun spirit does so little damage when you’re alone I have to wonder if there is a better skill for that slot. I think you’d get more out of QZ or one of the signets, MT, maybe even flame trap.

QZ is great, would it work in a hybrid build… I dont know because of the cooldown on the condi application. Few things I really dislike about QZ in any build is…
60 second cooldown untraited
Reduces all healing on yourself by 50% for 6 seconds. Worse than any poison in game and is very counter productive if you have troll urgent active.

The damage of the sun spirit if you compare to a full condi build wont give you those numbers. On the flip side those condi builds wont do the frontload damage of this build either.

Combined with bleed, poison and torment the sun spirit its not easily ignored @ 1500 range and also provides a AOE blind. If they block or line of sight it (the build) still does damage, if they remove the condis it still does above average frontload damage.

Now this isnt to say every build doesnt have its noticeable flaws. Im not trying to pass it off as the best thing since sliced bread or better than most meta builds or current favourites

I could play many of the existing builds out now sure but its over 2 years into the game and this is fresh and effective, at least for me. I have yet to be countered by a longbow power ranger or trap for that matter.

Ive been tinkering for weeks with the build and runes/stats to try and get that happy medium so when you stop by the stream all the numbers will change quite often pending what im running.

This thread is just the most current.

Stop by tonight again. Only I just got perplex runes so theyre going to stay for a while, cant afford to swap those out.

Cheers

Alo Rangers Three Minutes Here.
Im a long long time player of this class with a love hate relationship for it. Anyhow straight to it.

I updated the Hybrid Longbow with the most optimal items available for both solo wvw and zerg play.

Idea behind the build is to maintain 70 to 80% of the frontload damage of the power weapons but adding in Conditions.

What this will do is force cooldowns, keep players in combat even if they line of sight.

With the current roamers this is very strong.

Zerg Version & Full Ranged Version
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUzaLLOrQ1ag+ga9CEAjNrJwdUUFpdJr4J-TliFABGcIA6VHAAXAggV/5IlfMcEAOTTgeKBBe/BkfAABAQA4m38m38m3sUA3t2C-w
Solo Roaming Version
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUzaLLOrQ1aADhq9J8ulArAw9PMEXdJr4J-TliFABGcIA6VHAAXAggV/5IlfMcEAOTTgeKBBe/BkfAABAQA4m38m38m3sUA3t2C-w
I will be streaming this a fair bit @ twitch.tv/chompstomp and welcome any ideas to push this further or changes.

For players like myself who dont have this type of gear (Ascended) here is a link for the full ranged version without using ascended sinister.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUzaLLOrQ1ag+ga9CEAjNrJwdUUFpdJr4J-TliFABGcIA+QHQKq/UlSQjU+BwFAghjAwFaCAe/BkfAABAQA4m38m38m3sUA3t2C-w
Cheers folks

“This test season is intended to test an algorithm that’s tailored towards ranking players higher for better W/L ratios”

Again favouring the teamed up players. Thanks Anet for catering to that portion of your game.

Ill try and make my point clear here, although im sure it will somehow be misunderstood.

For 2 years I could solo q in spvp and face other solo players.

I would GLADLY take my chances at a longer Queue, I just want the same option I had for 2 years.

So if it need be, keep the current system at least give us the option to within the ranked Q to only be paired with solo players.

Yes the option to group is there, and im fine with that. Why alienate a good portion of the playerbase and in a sense make every ranked q a gamble for them.

Elitist.8701:

Why would you not play meta builds? Have fun being mediocre forever I guess.

having fun, groundbreaking in a video game

Is this just something I come across?

Players joining the winning team that is blowing the other team out of the water already. As though they needed the odds stacked in their favour more as is?

I know nothing can be done about this, it just gets old when it seems to happen more often then not.

Hotjoin is almost unplayable at this point in the game now. At least before I could toy with my spec adjust things, a sort of place to test things. Now i may as well just join unranked Q at least then its 5v5 with better odds of a balanced game.

Prysin.8542:

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQNBhOD7kQF6F0WWwfF4aBBGCVzU4dZFAvOW3x7LczH8L1D-TVCHABA8AAm+IA4mOgc3fwOlgtpZwgLCgTK/QU9nAAIA7cnpz6M4oH9oH9oHt7bf7bf7bfRBlRA-w

my current setup. for those interested.

I think anet nerfed the pets a little too hard, at least from a spvp standpoint. I could invest every point into maximizing pet dps along with sic em and even then its not enough to pressure a player. I would assume wvw players run more regen/tankiness then the spvp counterparts.

jebro.6370:

Hey all!

Thought I’d get some bomb action going on on me Engie!

Heres the video::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CfyCMaLguc&list=UUYcZuPaZfonVRjeqFpRukqA

Build:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fdAQFAUlUUpPrlcxzLseNCbBFyZcRR2xq85GEgjC-TJhIABA8AA+Y/BhKDw7FAAA

Wanted to get some feedback on sigils and also how you guys think this plays.

Personally Im surviving a ton as a cele engie does ofc, but then still maintaing high might stacks with some nice dots on targets with the torment sigil.

Let me know your thoughts!

Jebro

You get 3 to 6 stacks of might if you use medkit just by swapping to it.

Keegan.4172:

Whenever I’m in WVW, I see TONS for rangers (algong with warriors), but I just wanted to know what’s so special about this class? I heard that their damage output is meh, so I just wanted to know.

Rangers have been the most played class in gw2 since release

Pets are meh. The only use ive got out of them for a year now has been the f2 ability.

For those that want to play without a pet, thats cool. Id like to have mine not be a nuisance.

Overall I think the trait line is in need of some quality of life treatment

Rezzet.3614:

Lifestealer.4910:

I really scratch my head and wonder why Anet makes build that are centered around AI. In many games, competitive ones especially, AI are used as a supplement for a build or an extension as some call it. A build or class or whatever it is should not be centered around AI, it is bad design since it ultimately removes player interaction which is detrimental in pvp environment. If anyone plays league of legends and remember the yorick incident then you will know what I mean.

If Anets goal is to make a competitive scene then turret engineer needs to be gutted even if it isn’t top tier. This build is a perfect example of how not to balance in pvp. If however Anets goal is to allow anybody to come into pvp and have a blast owning people while watching tv then by all means leave the build alone. The second option is actually what Anet is doing and is the truth, if any random can come into pvp and have a build like this make them feel like a good player, they will stick around as a customer and even buy gems.

dont forget to get rid of mesmer clones Ranger’s pets and necro’s minions

Give rangers 3 pets out at the same time then by this logic.

Opening this thread to all who believe LB is no skill and hate it to provide their alternative build (ON THE RANGER) that is superior to Longbow.

Go, lets see this.

Go to the mists, and try and land a swoop + hilt bash on the moving golem and tell me if moment of clarity is worth it.

Is this already possible or can you make it more visible?

Would like to know if Im up against premades or not.

I put the wrong jewel in this build, I meant to put in berserker. I haven’t tested it with rabid. I’ll adjust the link to the build when I get home.

I’ll also be streaming it later in twitch if anyone wants to see it in action.

I imagine in wvw it would be stronger with the extra buffs

Updated this build* 28/02/2015

The idea of the build is to push longbow ranger limits.
Keeping the front load damage and range of the long but add in poison/burning/bleed.

If you play a ranger test it for yourself and see/compare to the regular comparable build.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEqUzaLLOrQ1ag+ga9CEAjNrJwdUUFpdJr4J-TphFABAcBAM4QAcwRAAl9HmqMAyPAAA

alternate build for more team support and damage reduction over condi removal

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fNAQJATRjEq0raLLOrQ1ag+ga9CEAjNrJwdUUFpdJr4J-TphFABAcBAM4QAcwRAAl9HmqMAyPAAA

Three Minutes
twitch.tv/chompstomp

Crapgame.6519:

Dead Muppet.9718:

1st im not defending rapid fire. I personally didnt want buffs to the offensive ability of the ranger, rather defensive.

For those saying it takes 2 dodges, traits or utility to avoid the damage of rapid fire. Was this different at any point in the game since release?

Three Minutes.

Reflection.
Retaliation.
Land / trees / ambient creatures.

Three things off the top of my head on how to react when said ranger unloads rapid fire on you. Heck, most smart rangers won’t even unload RF on a idle player because the first reaction is typically to double tap / dodge….there goes rapid fire.

This is really a L2P issue like we all say. 1200 base, 1500 with trait range. Get over it already. It isn’t going to be adjusted because a vast majority of the player base already knows the dance involved with rapid fire.

I agree its a L2P Issue.

What I was trying to point out is -
The Range
The Damage
The Way to defend vs this channeled ability
Has been the same since the release of the game

Of the ranger builds youll see on twitch which do you find the most entertaining?

1st im not defending rapid fire. I personally didnt want buffs to the offensive ability of the ranger, rather defensive.

For those saying it takes 2 dodges, traits or utility to avoid the damage of rapid fire. Was this different at any point in the game since release?

Three Minutes.

SobeSoul.6910:

Quake Con had 1v1s, not team play, in the beginning, and there were so many ladders for Quake 3 that I find that your claim of being on the best team in the world to be very dubious.

1v1 got its push start with Thresh Vs Entropy for the ferrari. From there Team Deathmatch 4v4 and 1v1 was pretty big from 1996 through til 2004ish.

1v1 is still going fairly strong but with the assortment of games out today the pool of players isnt like it was for sure.

[/quote]

If it’s easy, then I’m sure you can grab a team and win the next tournament.

The trip is about a 5 grand all expenses payed vacation and the prize is 5 grand for first!

I’d like to see you try instead of safely sit behind the forums and troll the world champions.[/quote]

I didnt say it was easy or that 5guage is a bad player.

I did try, in quake 1 and 3 and was in the top team, also sponsored… in the world. Undefeated for 2 years and the third year the 2nd rated team.

I love guild wars 2 and its pvp. Do I want to put that sort of time in again or take it to that level? Nope.

Does that make my point salty or moot? Maybe… am I not entitled to an opinion.

Chaith.8256:

Dead Muppet.9718:

trolled? or truth… rank 80 is inevitable by playtime.

Also the decay comment is the truth. The bit about annoying though is opinion ill give it that… however im sure im not alone on that one.

Want to put that out there everytime, why cant I respond.

O god

Kudos to you being an elite engineer also

Of the 2000 players that still play PvP worldwide
of that the players that take it to the level you do
of that the players that play engineer

Grats on being ONE of the better players playing a meta build engineer.

Dont kid yourself into thinking youre esports anything.

Truth.

ellesee.8297:

And the rockets red glaaaaare! The bombs bursting in aaaair! Gave proof to the night! That our flag was still there! Oh say does that star spangled banner yet waaaaaave! Oh the laaaaand of the freeeee! And the home of the brave!

And to Chaith!
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee!

Wahoo! Bye frands!

Commence the drama frands!
Nerf celestial
nerf thief!
Nerf Engi!
Nerf Ele!
EU > NA!
NA > EU!

PS: http://www.twitch.tv/jebrounity/b/595930973 for the video of the finals! Credits to Jebro and Chronick for being EEESPPOOOOOOORTTTSSSSS

Congrats to being the first to sit and play spvp for more hours than any other player… and to follow that with exploiting the decay to be the #1 engineer and boast about it in an annoying way.

Make soup from those pants.

Backpack.8517:

Saiyan.1704:

glock.6590:

The bragging will start about how good they are on the ladder when they just played a lot of games. You should just delete it and restart updating the old leaderboard. Just fix the decay . Don’t allow people to afk for months and then get rank 1 on the ladder.

And so many of us solo Q in ranked which gives premades a free win. At least in team Q there was way less solo Q’ers. Most people have an inflated win rate atm if they only played with premade.

Its not even about player skill its literally farming people at a disadvantage.

So winning 10-15 games straight and placing top ranked (old system) is more fair than actually having to grind to see your effective skill level? No more teams that play once a week at low peek times on the weekday against baddies… You’re practically forced to play more games against high rated teams to earn your max 5 points per game.

A person with a higher average of points earned per game Should be ranked higher, than a person with a lower average rank points earned per game. How is this not more fair?

All the games I play are at PRIME TIME, playing the highest MMR players available…. should I really be punished LOL… Im playing roughly 15 games a week now… all at prime time, 500-0ing every single one….

Someone who Qs 100 times a week and wins half their games SHOULD NOT BE HIGHER OR EVEN CLOSE to my MMR or my leaderboard rank…

You make it sould like I am Q dodging and scared to play good players…. I am team quing with the most competitive teams in the game… SURE I would love to play a similarly skilled team… Fact is: there are none.. Why should I then get punished for not having a worthy adversary??

Solo Q 100 Times this week, then we’ll talk ratings. Ill bet the more you Solo Q the more your percentage will average out to a lower one.

Im not impressed in the slightest by players who get together and form a team/practice and play randoms that group up. This has been moot since the days of quake 1…

Revised this build to be more versatile.

Short Bow.
When fighting any class stay in short bow 100%.
Positioning is key for 2 reasons
priority in this order*
1: Short bow will apply a bleed on any attack from the side or back of the target.
2: Piercing arrows shoot in a line

The Great Sword.
Disengage and mobility.
Swoop now having an evade on it just makes it perfect for just that, disengaging when you need to reset or get around. As much as you want to use this weapon to fight with – don’t. You can swoop away to let the troll urgent tick for a bit then attack again.

The Pets.
The Lynx is for when you’re on the offensive without much threat – and will compliment this with bleeds and damage.
The Wolf is not only for defense but offense also.
There are times when you can combine entangle/short bow 5/ swap wolf fear on targets for some great condi ticks.

Things to watch for…
Poison – This will counter your regen and troll urgent so pay attention this and the emp bond/renewal
Burning – This one here is another where you need to watch the emp bond/renewal

I will at times swap out piercing arrows for spotter pending the map and team im facing.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-FV-g;2F-u-p2ZDF-0;9-9E;1J9T9-27-1;027A2;3KomFW;1fgm9fgm92VA

Cheers
Three Minutes AKA Chompstomp

David.6491:

So I was in sPVP and I 1 v 1ed a ranger then he started to criticize my build .

Then the next game happened and my team won again he start talking to me about he is a tier 1 player and I’m a tier 5 player.

My question is how to determine your tier and where to check the requirement for the tier?.

There are tier 1 rangers???

“Why the lack of Shortbow?
The one thing the Ranger class lacks is access to AoE. This makes its team fight presence not that great. You may be a hard target to focus down, but while you teammates are being pressured, your only option is to counter pressure with short bow while in team fights. This isn’t exactly ideal. Take the fight to the side points, however, and it’s a completely different story. With Axe/Dagger, you have the burst, the evades, a good weakness uptime and the immobilises to land your burst that comes from Spitblades. By not taking a Shortbow, you also get to pack in a Torch while not compromising on any of your evasive skills. This is a huge DPS and survivability boost compared to flanking with a short bow. Not to mention fighting on nodes makes it easier to land your skills.”

Believe me when I say this, short bow is very underrated. Short bows strength comes from positioning. While this is just my opinion, I have never found any build or weapon that will apply more pressure than simply auto attacking with the right build/position with the short bow.

Another personal taste is taking the new revised Great sword with the short bow. For a ‘disengage’ and ‘mobility’ between points/fights. The evade on the swoop + block makes it the perfect compliment to the short bow now.

Not knocking your build just speaking from my experiences using short bow as a ranger and testing builds for a while now.

Three Minutes

Same lag spikes all over… making spvp not worth queuing for.