Guild Wars 2

Condi is not an issue in proper squads. I guess you complain about solo roaming?

Yeah, been there, done that

Weeks have passed, feedback has been given. Yet Anet is keeping their heads in the sand.
I’m not sure at this point that they even have a clue how to fix the new BLs . Obviously over-enginnered, designed by PvE designers that haven’t got a clue about what the WvW community wants.

On top of that they are unfinished ( missing gliding, mastery jumping etc ) and over abusing mechanics no-one asked for.

Do you find the PvE lazer event in any shape or form fun, Anet? Have you been there to kitten it’s impact on a live evironment? The BL virtually turns into a slideshow and every guilds calls abreak and waits patiently for it to be over.

Auto updates? What use is there to care for a keep/tower if there is 0 effort involved in upgrading it? You disconnected players from WvW objectives…congrats!

These and other countless issues have been brought here over and over again. Every thread on this forum’s first page ( and not only) is about the new WvW impelentation and how it miserably fails.

So Anet…what’s the GRAND PLAN?
What’s the ROADMAP?
What’s next?

Talk to us! Before it’s too late!

‘- Added a veteran wurm, warg, and harpy event, allowing completion of the daily Veteran Slayer achievement.
- The daily Master of Ruins achievement has been changed to Master of Monuments and can also be completed by capturing shrines.’

saalle.4623:

So what you want for your endgame then?People complain about masteries,about grinding… now you complain about specs…What is good endgame for you?Let me guess,Rping in LA?

New dunegoens with proper difficulty scaling and rewards?
Raids?
New PvP modes?

Locking a spec that players want to try out behind a hellish grind is not end-game , no matter how you look at it.
Man, just imagine a casual player(normal adult) having 2-3 hours of playtime after work. How much time it will take him to do it for say, 3 characters?

The grind is real. Unlocking specs on 3 chars will take me months. Wasted money …

Grinding elite spec for 3 chars while being a pvp/wvw player just makes me sick and have a huge urge to uninstall this farse…

So how do you look behind you while running without turning your character in that direction?

EDIT: you need an extra keybind for that. Yea, no thanks

I didn’t know Deso tactic in EB was to split their zerg in 10 independent roaming groups.
That would explain the loss, and the huge amount of tears tho.

But don’t worry, I am sure that you will have the change to feel (i)pro again during you current matchup.

Nice necro.
I predict this will turn into a matchup thread in.

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McWolfy.5924:

Sfr if you want blob. Deso if you want a guild raid. Gandara or kodash if you are a zerker necro

Now my morning coffee is all over my newly ironed shirt!
Are you happy, brah… ?

Too much wall of text and confusing inforation in this thread. It’s rather simple:

If you have full exotics + Ascended Accessories you should do fine in WvW.

If you already have that, take a closer look at:
- your rune selection
- your sigil selection
-your traits

As a general rule of thumb when new to WvW: start with higher thoughness and as you learn how to position yourself and survive, move slowly towards more power/crit gear until you find a balance that’s confortable.

Also VERY important, since it impacts your performance a lot:

- use +contidion damage gear in roaming/smallscale
- user power/crit in raid/zerg

Whenever Deniara copy-pastes something about Deso being a non-blob , guild-centric server, somewhere an upscaled hunter receives a precursor drop.

Biological.3297:

My prediction SFR. Too many players.
Looking at it from Deso’s veiw we aint got a chance in hell.
Another 4 weeks of being against SFR also predicted
I mean come on the notes said not the SAME !3! servers not always placed together, didn’t say nufin about the top 2.
Let’s see what happens.

What is this? SFR looks to win again and #desotears follow.
And on GW2NET too. How come these posts were not done last week?
Whelp, if there’s anything predictable about S3 is the amount of tears shed by Deso apologists…

Not really looking forward to it…

insanemaniac.2456:

Warcry.1596:

ualgh.1832:

nice keybinds

nice heal

nice utility skills

nice hp

nice eotm

Whats wrong with the keybinds…? Look normal to me..

depends on if he has a gaming mouse or if hes a clicker. only video can proof.

What if he has a solar powered PS2 mouse with digital middle button using anftermarket razer mousepad and wearing a KISS t-shirt ???

GavNation.4307:

Now I am being honest when I ask this. I am on my first character (level 50) and I was wondering…Whats the point of WvW? I mean it seems entertaining and I was having fun while playing it but I don’t see myself playing for long periods of hours without some actual goals besides “capture this just because you can say your the best server”.

And I am pretty sure that I am missing something or the actual point.

What’s the point of PvE?
What’s the point of GW2 ?
What’s the point of a video game in general?

Entertainment.

If a particular type of entertainment does not cater to you, then you might look for some other options.

Wanna snipe as a warrior?

Equip zerker
Equip Sword
Equip Axe
Leap to Enemy
Eviscerate

You’re welcome

Excellent, this update will keep me busy for at least another year!

Wohoo!
In before Deinara!

To be honest, you won’t find too much sympathy for upscales on any server that has a strong WvW community. If you encounter a group of enemy players the only way to make sure that you are remotely useful to you group is to die on first impact.
This way you will avoid rallybotting later on in the fight.

If you want to level your upscaled in WvW, your options would be:
1) EOTM
2) Friday karma train

Ohhh, I like where this thread is heading…

Maskaganda.2043:

Deli.1302:

Znark.3984:

Hello,

first of all, i have to say that i only played on Kodash so i cant really tell about other servers.

Kodash is overpopulated roamingwise. VERY overpopulated. My guild (running 1-5 players) has trouble to find any roaming fights these days. And if so, there is a big chance of other Kodashies attacking the enemies, which makes an outnumbered fight (in the beginning) very boring, as it just turns to a steamroll.
No offense, many players just get bored and want to fight something i guess.
All in all i wouldn´t recommend going on Kodash anymore, it should be much more entertaining to play against them.

My guild is now thinking of leaving Kodash to play against Kodash more often, so we would have more fights.

So please tell us about the situation on your new EU-Server

Greets
Znark

PS: Sorry for kitten the English language once again

Why would you leave when Kodash is rank 3 and will fight Gandara and Desolation very often. Gandara and Desolation have huge roaming population. Even SFR has a lot of roamers.

deso and sfr have no small scale roaming guilds that I can think of. I seriously can’t remember a single one in either of those servers. maybe they do exist but I’ve never seen them.

Owwww, AR, Five … there’s more but pointing out your ignorance is more entertaining than educating you.

Deniara Devious.3948:

Desolation, EU rank #2. We are both PuG and WvWvW guild friendly. People and commanders co-operate on TeamSpeak and generally have a fun time. In recent months our WvWvW guild roster has gotten stronger: Golden Horde, iPro, Ink… just to mention few excellent guilds, which are now also on Desolation. As Gunnar’s Hold player you should know [Ink].

Desolation lacks open tag commanders and players from morning to afternoon time period, but even prime time is not full. Ability to do great decisions in situations when the enemy outnumbers you, is exactly what we need. Desolation spirit is to never give up, no matter what are the odds.

We currently have very little queues, but that also means our blob is often smaller than the opposing blob. If you want to be on the side which has the biggest blobs and WvWvW guilds, please go to other top servers.

Advertising bots on these forums are more intrusive than those on dodgy online date sites ( not that I have ever been one one of those…ever, uhm…)

When’s Anet finally going to do something about these copy/paste bots?
They are ruining my immersion…

Deli.1302:

This is just a glorified recruitment post for the already most stacked EU server.
4 maps queued during prime time. EB queued for 12 hours of the day. No one to fight outside prime time except Deso during the night.
If you want to have constant fights, transfer to any server but SFR. They’ll give you a 50 man blob to fight 24/7.

We also have 4 commanders on each map ( 1 camping ruins, 2 camping enemy spawn and 1 porting people to the jumping puzzle ) .
Our queues are indeed so big that Anet implemented a EOTM queue overflow just for SFR.

On the other hand, we severely lack classes except hunters and minion necros

Gaem ded !

And this is how NA T2 turns into NA T1.

Congrats on achieving…nothing !

/popcorn

3,2,1…go!

Condi is only relevant for small-scale.
If your group of 20+ players has issues with conditions, you have to stop and think about what you’re doing wrong…

The BEST all-around WvW guild that played GW2 was Za Drots.
Sadly, they quit the game.

Ok, had enough of this nonsense. Listen, there is ONE big problem with mega-zergs that needs to be nerfed.

It’s not AOE, Frindly Fire, downed mechancs …
Zone zergs are so powerful because: PERMA – SPEED.

It’s doesn’t make sense to split up a zerg, when you can be virtually anywhere on the map with 80 people in 1 minute.

Want to force zergs to split up, want people to play smarter?
Address the group perma – speed issue!

/thread

PS: You’re welcome!

Friendly fire?
70% of skills are AoE skills…

Good, good.
More #desotears

Here we go…again!

Wonder why you haven’t opened this thread on Tuesday, when we -allegedly- double teamed BB with you ( they ticked +50 )

Someone REALLY needs to explain Deso players how WvW and map politics work.

Don’t know about NA , but on EU1 gold, if you’re not on TS while following commander, you’re basically a rallybot.

Even in PUG vs. PUG ( or militia ) fights, those not on TS are usually on the losing side.
I’ve seen militia zerg wars in NA, most of them consist of 2 large clusters shooting pew pew lasers at each other. Sure, you don’t need TS for that, the commander has all the time if the world to retype the Webster dictionary in /say

Running with TS in EU gold as a Militia is mandatory, since every engage half-decent commanders call out regroups, water fields, aggressive statics and focus bombs…not to mention dictate movement of the zerg constantly.

Promoting a healthy Team Speak culture not only helps your server win engagements but also brings community cohesion.

I think everyone is getting a bit tired and bored right now.
Even in EU T1, SFR is playing only as much as needed to keep winning matchups, sometimes pushing when needed but mostly slacking.
Everyone got their achievements done, we’re approaching summertime etc…
There’s a ’let’s just get this kitten done and over with’ attitude

As my esteemed adversary Crimson said before…there’s gonna be a looooong vacation for many servers after this.

Badges are an irrelevant currency after the introduction of EOTM.

zoombi.1498:

Lydell.8713:

Onmosis.7056:

Lydell.8713:

Onmosis.7056:

Yeah we’re getting 2 v 1ed right now, and that kinda sucks… Our morale got lower than before… :l

Are you still on the server that the sig on your previous messages states you were on, or did you move to the server that shalt not be named, hoping to be on the winning side?

Still on the same server… I’m not planning on leaving… I’m not really whining, I just want to get this off of my chest… :PP

Good, cause the server that shalt not be named has enough whiners already. Just wanted to be sure that people realize that you’re not on it.

cause whining about whiners makes u cool? double negative??

What about whining about whiners that whine about other whiners?

Ah another one oh these…took you long enough.

wells, wells ,well and wells again

On T1 servers you’ll find people in WvW during all hours . Coverage is king due to high amount of players. But this usually leads to big zerg vs. zerg wars.

You will find good guilds in both T1 and T2.
The difference between T1 and T2 is not the guild quality but coverage and communication/organisation.

Some RP thing…

Badges of honor are an irrelevant currency since EotM was introduced.

Aaaaaaand another #desotears thread

Deniara Devious.3948:

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

You believe this kitten on your own really? The longest stadning VZ rival?! the server that purposely dropped to silver league? just to win against outnumbered opposotion??! long standing guilds from the beta? Where are Iron Gd then? and others..
Yeah you have god blob guid, and PT, Unit….
so much wrong info in a single post… Just for the single purpose to beat the single server in game that always have been primarily pvp/wvw ..And btw you guys understand that league is over the best you can be is second anyway do your math.. with the weeks left and the points to be won… Or you think you can bump sfr to 3th few weeks? in a row?
Good job though I suppose you still have the best pve comanders though….

The Iron Triangle[IRON] left Desolation over a year ago, but look where they are now. The Iron Hall [IRON] is still on Desolation. Like almost every guild, which has left Desolation: they are just a weak shadow of what they used to be when they were in Desolation. Probably the best WvWvW guild of all time in Guild Wars 2 was Vengeance of the Fallen. Sadly VotF sadly quit the game, but some of their players came back to Desolation. Desolation players co-operate and fight for the server, not just for the pride of some individual guild.

SFR has always been WvWvW focused, but their focus on pvp (and pve) is really weak. In fact no other server stands against Desolation when it comes to pvp:
http://mos.millenium.org/pvp_rankings

Desolation has all the top spots and about 50% of the TOP50 pvp players. SFR has no players in TOP50. SFR has several good WvWvW guilds, who are mostly organized hammer trains and very strong morning presence, which gives them the wins, but their small scale roamers are weak. I would argue that Kodash and Desolation are the best gold league servers in small scale roaming. Riverside and Augury Rock also have some formidable small scale roamers and I would welcome any of them happily to play on Desolation. I remember Vizunah also having some amazing roamers, but I haven’t faced them in a while, so I am not sure if they are still there. I know everybody wants to tell that VS is all about blobbing, but this isn’t the complete truth.

Most of the best Guild vs Guild (GvG) guilds are in Silver league of EU, not in gold. I would argue that the general quality of the WvWvW players in silver league is higher than in the gold league. I am not 100% sure about this after the massive transfers to Gandara. Logically their server is super stacked and probably has plenty of low quality players as well. SFR has surely also received their fair share of bandwagoners and these usually lead to internal struggles and queues. The reason why some servers are in gold and why some are in silver is coverage: gold servers tend to have better off-prime time coverage.

Being #2 in the gold league is not bad. The rewards are almost as good as the winner gets.

PS. If you didn’t understand the humor Omphin put to his 1st post, maybe Desolation is not your server. We have a lot of fun moments, laughter, but also strict command talk on our server-wide TeamSpeak.

The Pirate Council has voted Deniara as our official server chronicler. She has invested so much time to study us and knows SFR’s struggles so well that this job fits her like a glove.

@ Deniara, please sign up on the SFR community page to be officially instated.
Don’t forget your resumee , transfer fee gems and also a printout of your five longest GW2 forum rants that do not contain straw man agruments, links to 3rd party statistic sites or mentions of sPvP in a WvW-related topic.

Again, congratulations.

There are no 5-6 hour queues. And a T2 server would be your best choice, seems to be the general consensus.

hholls.3278:

Point Blanc.3105:

hholls.3278:

Point Blanc.3105:

Eviscera.9703:

You must be good.

My intention was not to brag but to rectify his false statement. There is nothing that I hate more than liers.

So you rectified a false statement by lying hence being exactly the sort of person you hate ??? Wow

I apologize, it was a bit of an arrogant thing to say but I wasn’t lying.

Don’t worry I’m positive you haven’t got anything to be arrogant about…I suppose you’re not in your borderland because miraculously we’ve just wiped even numbers 5 times in a row…probably missing your superhuman skills

Funny about last evening…I could say the same.
Miracles all over the place…

Eviscera.9703:

Desolation is a superior PVE server. This is known.

Fixed it for you…

hholls.3278:

Samstein.5269:

SFR is #1, every other server is weaker, logic? ofcourse you can call the 2nd server weak..

Every server blobs, every server has guilds, every server has roamers, but SFR does it best, that´s why SFR is winning the league at this rate, you can whine however much you want, but fact is that SFR is winning… It´s sad though that you try to come with excuses to losing, you´re not good enough – yet.

It´s true that SFR has lost alot of quality in their pugs but we´re still winning. Personally I don´t give a kitten about the league but coming and whining, giving excuses to losing is just destroying the mood, stop it! Try to do better instead…

Lol …… SFR does coverage/blobbing best I’m not complaining you have copied the winning tactics by Viz which is all part of the game and are rightly no1 but do not for one minute think that equals skill believe me your guilds would get destroyed by most in silver league the fights against equal numbers with you nearly always equal a Deso win or you running back to your a/c’s.

Everyone wanted you out of the silver league because you blobbed them to death. Now that you have something to fight for, you come 24/7 on different forums crying your guts out about various topics that no one cares about.

Really Deso is the only server worth fighting, but your constand whine, whine and whine…with 3 different topics opened each matchup makes you look like a spoiled kindergaten kid that had his candy taken away by big bad SFR.

Grow some backbone.

Does Deso send their PvE achievement hunters to the official forums every time someone flips their garrison?
Just trying to work out a pattern here…

I knew that Deso was a PvE server, but please…for the sanity of these forums, teach your fractal farmers that Homeborder is a -defensive- map!
You will be attacked there from two sides no matter what.