Guild Wars 2

So basically, if I decide to do fractals or dungeons on my beta revenant, I will not keep any tokens, gold etc? I bet I will drop an ascended chest piece just because of that.

Tomes of knowledge are amazing! I have used stacks of them when I want to change the race of a lvl 80 that I have gotten bored with. And I would have never had an engineer if it weren’t for them.

My revenant will be an instant lvl 80 and I already have ascended armor and trinkets waiting for her. Just need to decide on what stats to use. I’d rather play it in the new maps than repear the old content that I know by heart.

ColinJohanson.2394:

Just want to clarify since I saw this come up a couple of times in this thread and we haven’t actually released our full official patch notes for 6/23 yet….

Ascended Gear will be staying 5% better than Exotic Gear. Gear beyond the tiers we already have are not going to be added and our existing tiers won’t change, they won’t be our main end-game form of progression for your characters/account for all the reasons we’ve covered before – it isn’t what we think Gw2 is about.

Masteries is being added to PvE to help provide this system as our form of progression for PvE moving forward, and the WvW ability system exists for WvW and will be what we use to expand WvW in the future.

To more directly answer some of your point….We are adding a system that lets you change the stats for your ascended gear next Tuesday – which will cost a combination of 10 spirit shards, piece you don’t want anymore, 5 ectos, and an exotic insignia of the stats you want to convert to. Legendary Gear will remain the gear that can freely change stats any time.

-CJ

Amazing news! Thank you so much!

What happens to infusions and runes that we have in the armor after we change stats. Do we keep them?

The standard bundle should include a character slot. You cannot release a new class and expect people to pay 800 gems on top of the expansion to be abble to play revenant.

Come and join us

I have several major projects that I am working on

*Ambrite weapon collection
*The Glorious Armor reward track
*Map completion on a 4th alt
*Trying to get all the fractal skins again (had them all but destroyed them before the wardrobe was introduced)
*Getting lots of influence for my guild
*And most importantly hoarding gold and materials so that I can make the new legendaries

Bumping this, we are recruiting again

Congratulations to everyone who got a portal. I am giving it up. I’ve been running round SW all day with 500%+ Magic Find. And yesterday, and the day before. Seems the only thing affected by the magic find are the number of shovels I am getting. 3 stacks of bandit keys and 50 shovels later, I want to rip my eyes out and throw them on all the kitten teragriffs and husks.

This ridiculous way of obtaining a portal has made me loose all desire to play the beta.

Papillon Paws [Paws] is growing and we are looking for new members.

[Paws] is a multiserver EU community focused mainly on PVE, but we also do pvp and wvw. We are a group of experienced players that have been playing together since release. We are recruiting both new and veteran players and preparing for all the fun that will come with the expansion.

We can teach you Fractals, take you on dungeon runs, efficient farms, or you can just tag along with us doing world events. If you are experienced – join us for Fractal level 50 or on one of our speed dungeon runs.

We appreciate that you represent, but won’t bug you if you don’t. And we won’t make you register for annoying forums.

If you are looking for a relaxed and helpful guild, this is the place for you.

For more information, or if you would like to join: whisper us in game or send us an in-game mail.

Niamus
Frosty Glow

Legacy of the Foefire map, match ended 22:20 CET, EU server.. Result: 600-30 .
Played on account: IceVyper.6810.

I don’t know what kind of matchmaking this is…

Of course I will buy the expansion, the minute it is released and no matter the price. I am already choosing staff skins for my ranger and hoping for a longbow guardian.

No, the solution is that the least popular class in game should not be forced on people by making it appear more often than the other classes. Especially if it also means spending gems on a new character slot.

Although I am liking a lot the new changes to the daily system, I have been quite annoyed with how often the “Daily Engineer Win” has been appearing in pvp. This particular daily shows up way too often, compared to other classes such as necromancer or ranger. As a person who has every class in game but engineer, I get frequently deprived of this daily’s reward.

I understand that you would like to make people play different classes, but please make sure that all of them appear with the same frequency. It is very annoying to see the “Engineer win” in the dailies every other day.

Or if you insist in trying to force us to play engineers, then allow us to hide or reskin their hideous hobo sacks.

I don’t understand the point of those items, they just dye your armor, hair and skin, without any special glow to it. Pretty much the same can be achieved with buying the special dyes and getting a hair color from the gem store kits. You get a much wider selection of colors and you don’t have to give up your ascended accessories. Yes, your skin remains undyed, but if I wanted a green, orange or abyss black character, I would make sylvari.

I hate this new change so much! Please revert the system, it was so much better! Let me buy with gold 3, 56, 380, 567, whatever number of gems I feel like.

I want more skimpy armor for both males and females.

Whoever wants a skimpy male armor, should preview the new Lich outfit. Your male character with be barechested, and he will also get lovely faun legs and hooves. It does not get nastier than that

I hate this collection with a passion and it drives me crazy that I cannot complete it. At first i had fun with it, going to places, getting items that I didn’t pay attention to before. Even the enchanted Key was fun. Then I had to deal with the bugged event chains that unlock merchants, but got even those done after several tries.

And then, after passing the second tier of the achievement, I got stuck. I refuse to pay for the world bosses drops. Yet they never drop when I do the world bosses. The rune of scavenging is stupidly expensive and totally unnecessary. On top of that I have done Arah probably as much as OP’s guildy, and I have never seen that kitten item drop.

So good luck to whoever decides to go for that achievement. I’d rather buy me another legendary with that gold.

I still want this armor so bad…..

All 3 events are still bugged on a EU megaserver.

• Schollar Dobbs: waypoint is contested, nothing happens. I’ve seen the same people waiting in the area for hours, hoping the event would start.

• Breandan: the NPC is stuck next to a wall and would not continue his mission. Yesterday I arrived there when the event was actually ongoing. We protected it with a bunch of people until it arrived to the middle of the underwater temple area. When we killed what seemed to be the last wave of risen, it just froze and would not move. Today it remains in the same location.

• Scholar Riagan (Bloodtide Coast) – the event is supposed to start after protecting the camp. However it takes forever, and by the time it spawns, the people that protected the camp are already gone because they give up on waiting. Event fails when Riagan dies, and he dies pretty fast when there is noone to protect him.

I don’t get why those items are a part of the treasure collection, if the events to unlock them have been bugged for ages. Half the items for the collection are insanely expensive, the rest can’t be obtained because of bugs…

Thank you! I guess that is why people avoid it, because the path itself didn’t seem that annoying to me.

And that gives you plenty of time to put it down too late or on the wrong spot

SE path 2 is probably the least done dungeon path in the game. Personally I have done it twice, about 2 years ago and remember it took forever.

I am wondering if there is somewhere a decent guide that shows how to do it efficiently.

This is definitely not an exploit. And I can guarantee you that if I try to do this on my guardian, I will most likely fail It is a case of perfectly timed reflects.

I will do pretty much the same stuff that I did before.

Run fractals hoping for armor boxes.
Try to unlock the dungeon collections while enjoying my updated ranger.
Try to get the medium Glorious armor in pvp.
Level my new elementalist, she is only 17.

This is such a horrible idea. So many times I make an lfg for fractals 49 and get a random 40+ level join us. If we cannot kick that person it would be a total waste of time.

I think the best solution for now is for people to play with guild and friendlist, and to minimize pugs to just one. Until Anet does something to fix the problem.

My guess is that Arenanet is not done with the achievement but for some reason people that have the full collection can see it. From the photos and the video it is clear that that achievement does not give a title, nor any kind of reward. Maybe they haven’t decided on what. It doesn’t make sence that collecting some rare armors will give a lesser vision crystal and all the fractal skins – nothing.

I have one skin unlocked from SE…the horrors

YouThisReadWrong.8429:

IceVyper.6810:

YouThisReadWrong.8429:

LordByron.8369:

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

LordByron.8369:

well despite i would totally expect it from anet, would be pointless rewarding a fractal box for fotm skins completion.

Maybe it would count towards placement on the Fractal Leadeboard?

They removed the ladderboard because new players were being left by their girlfriends, in pvp i guess.

P.S. i tried to right click a skin and i can t get to fractal collection…
Was it a Photoshop or there is really a fractal collection?

I’m not kidding there is a fractal collection..
I have no idea why you guys can not see it actually

All the collections have green background, the picture you linked has purple… I’d say it is fake.

hey, so maybe this will convince you guys ?!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWswwMahZyA&feature=youtu.be

I don’t know what to say… Why can’t we unlock it? Why doesn’t it have a reward, but only AP? And why is the background purple.. This is so weird.

luzt.7692:

While we’re at it, getting duplicated skins is very annoying.
Getting the same Malicious chest of ascended boots 6 times too.
Got wup wup boots for every armor class now and 3 unopened left.

Proud owner of six healing chests of ascended shoulders here….

It can be fun, now and then. But if I have an objective, such as collecting X amount of tokens for whatever purpose, on a daily basis, I’d rather do that with people that I know for sure they know what they are doing.

Jeremlloyd.6837:

Well that system should be changed. It’s just bullkitten atm. Like yesterday one guildie was giving away via the LFG tool an Arah p4 he soloed (except for Simin where he asked for help) and some people joined his group just to kick him and get the instance. That is just not fair… He just rage quited after that and I understand why. You spend a lot of time just for being kicked out of your instance? Anet please revert this change or allow us to choose if we want the ownership of the dungeon or not like it was suggested in the previous page…

Basically this new system is making me to never allow more than one pug in my party. And I am definitely not inviting more people just before the end boss.

YouThisReadWrong.8429:

LordByron.8369:

SkyFallsInThunder.8257:

LordByron.8369:

well despite i would totally expect it from anet, would be pointless rewarding a fractal box for fotm skins completion.

Maybe it would count towards placement on the Fractal Leadeboard?

They removed the ladderboard because new players were being left by their girlfriends, in pvp i guess.

P.S. i tried to right click a skin and i can t get to fractal collection…
Was it a Photoshop or there is really a fractal collection?

I’m not kidding there is a fractal collection..
I have no idea why you guys can not see it actually

All the collections have green background, the picture you linked has purple… I’d say it is fake.

I keep checking the basic collections tab, staring at the dungeons one and not knowing where to start. I have ran every path countless of times but most of the collections are almost empty. Most of the full sets that I got for my characters, I reskinned way before the wardrobe patch. Whatever dungeon weapons I had, I upgraded with ascended ones or legendaries, thus loosing the skins. The majority of the unlocked skins come from pvp, when you could open tournament chests, or are unwanted drops from the pvp forge, while trying to get something else.

For the past two years I have:

• Converted every Arah and COF token into ectos.
• Crafted dungeon trinkets with every HOTW and COE tokens and sold on the TP.
• Bought and forged off-hand weapons with the tokens from the lower tier dungeons.
• Bought several gifts to craft legendaries.

And considering I no longer have a fixed group to run dungeons with, I don’t really see how I can even begin to fill those collections…

I spent the past couple of hours leveling a new human elementalist and had loads of fun. I am now lvl 16 and can’t wait to continue tomorrow. Below is a summary of my experience.

• It didn’t bother me at all that I had to unlock the weapon skills one by one. I had them all ready to use really fast. In fact it was nice to get a closer look at the elementalists many skills, and I switched several weapons as they were dropping.

• It never felt that parts of the map were being locked out. The compass was showing me directions, but I went whereever I felt like. There is absolutely nothing forcing people to follow the compass. It is just an orientation, and I liked how it would direct me to the nearest vista without having to click M.

• So the underwater skills are locked… big deal, people have been hating on underwater combat since forever, now they suddenly miss it and need it at lvl 2.

• I loved getting the new level rewards. And with them there was a lot of usefull information for new players. For example dailies, monthlies, laurels were explained which is something a person new to the game needs to know. And there is no reason for a veteran player to be annoyed by such explinations.

• So the first vendors we met didn’t sell salvage kits.. I found those in Shaemoor, the newbie bags I had were big enough to hold all the items I had looted, and then I salvaged the stuff. I know getting essences of luck is vital, but I could survive 30 mins without salvaging.

• I also know that by the time I am lvl 40, I will be tired with the leveling through exploration, but that won’t be because of the new system. I simply prefer to play with my characters when they are fully geared at lvl 80. For the same reason I have leveled my 8 alts via crafting, tomes of knowledge, dungeons, whatever methods there are to speed up the process.

Nobody is forcing people to try out the new leveling. But those who do it should keep an open mind and may find out that they like the changes.

You have been feeding the cows in Queensdale for 2 years and now they need you to dance with them

The armor sets were not rewarded to me, I got them myself. Anet decided to put them in a collection with a reward, and that reward should have been an ascended item. I have already sugested a weapon box or a backpiece.

I hate the fact that the collections are hidden. I want to see what is available and choose whichones to go for. Not having to wait for a stupid guide or hoping to stumble upon something in the open world.

You get to choose from the weapons that drop from champion boxes (pretty much the ones that belong to the Exotic Hunter collection). All of them used to be cheap and easy to acquire via TP. No matter how much their prices skyrocket, they will never be percieved as special as they are very common and people are already tired of the skins.

I don’t see the exotic as a bonus at all. I see it as a “I acquired all the end game armor and all I got is this lousy exotic”.

“conversely if people don’t care about the ascended armors, then they won’t feel penalized by missing out on great rewards because they don’t want to make something they don’t care for.”

I cannot support such way of thinking. Depriving people of great rewards, just because someone might feel penalized for not caring to do the work.

If I decide to level a new alt it will be with experience scroll and tomes of knowledge. Whatever levels I am missing in the end, I will get with cooking and EOTM.

This is how I leveled my other alts as well, so the new changes make no difference to me.

And I can get all of them super easily. Ascended stuff on the other hand: not so easy.

Pandaman.4758:

Just to play the devil’s advocate here, but the items you’re collecting in themselves are already rewards, you’re just getting an extra bit of reward for getting the whole set. Take for example the ascended armor collection: people aren’t making ascended armor to get the achievement reward, they’re making the armor to wear – the achievement reward is just icing on that particular cake.

Same can be said about pretty much every other collection reward, with the exception of Junk Collector.

Yes, and the icing on that cake, should be something more valuable. Why are the people griding geodes getting the opportunity to choose a free ascended armor piece? Why can’t I get a free berserker light armor chest for my alts?

What bothers me the most is that the reward is not special enough, and that I could get it extremely easily via other channels. Ascended items are always going to be more special than exotics (precursors being the exception). How hard is it to reward people with a choice of the godly ascended backpieces, for example?

Kaldrys.1978:

I think the intent is for the rewards to be a bonus to people who like the skins or happen to unlock many of the collection items through normal play over time. The reward isn’t supposed to be the primary incentive for completing collections. I already had the ascended armor one completed when I logged in today (I do a lot of fractals) so I got a nice title and the exotic chest which I used on Arthropoda and sold for 150g. Now obviously the 1200g or so that ascended armor costs is far more than the 150g reward that I got, but I didn’t spend 1200g for the reward. I spent it for the armor and I consider that reward as a bonus.

You were lucky that people are going like crazy trying to buy those weapons, so you got a somewhat decent money out of it. You are right, the reward is not supposed to be the primary incentive, but it still should measure the amount of time and work. I only crafted the heavy ascended set. The rest of the skins I unlocked because I too do a lot of fractals (only miss a couple of pieces). But that still meant hours and hours of high level fractals. So yeah, I do not want a stupid exotic for my work, I want something that is harder to get and that I cannot buy from the TP.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

IceVyper.6810:

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

There are more collections than what you see or what Dulfy is currently reporting. There is one unlocked from a drop at the Claw of Jormag fight, for instance. No idea what collection, though.

I think this is the collection where you need to get all the elementalist conjured weapons: volcanus, mjölnir, wintersbite and winterbark (one of those bows drop from Jormag). Again, very expensive weapons, no idea what the reward is though.

I don’t think anyone does yet, honestly. Still waiting to see what “Spirit Backpack” is . . .

I saw that one, it is quite ugly but at least it is some new skin. It looks like one of the new backpieces (the one with the hanging anvil from it) but it is transparent blue a blue hue.

Tobias Trueflight.8350:

There are more collections than what you see or what Dulfy is currently reporting. There is one unlocked from a drop at the Claw of Jormag fight, for instance. No idea what collection, though.

I think this is the collection where you need to get all the elementalist conjured weapons: volcanus, mjölnir, wintersbite and winterbark (one of those bows drop from Jormag). Again, very expensive weapons, no idea what the reward is though.

Bloodstealer.5978:

IceVyper.6810:

I am a bit surprised that more people aren’t upset about the poor rewards.

What surprises me is some players still don’t get it, that this is only a game to us.. its a business to ANET and as such they have to place carrots in front of us to try and entice us to part with some coin.

No one is forcing you to do the collections, no one is forcing you to buy gems.. especially as you can simply exchange some coin every now and then to build up your gem pots.. no players want easywin items as rewards.. use the exotics from the rewards to make money then buy your gems. its simple really if your not wanting to spend money… it’s not a race there is no winner or loser.
If the game fails to make money, then how do you think it will be before any kind of content updates begin to get put back and then the bean counters back at HQ start to consider flicking off the power switch permanently… buying a boxset is only part of the business model and likewise part of your gaming experience.. but the key is you control the choices in game as to whether you want to donate some real coin to the game.

First of all, nowhere in my topic was I complaining that I need to buy gems, that I cannot make gold or that I cannot afford the items on the collections.

The issue is, that you need to spend thousands of gold to complete some of them (which I and many others have already done) , but then you are given a very meaningless reward that does not measure the amount of work that people put in.

How is giving me an ascended weapon, instead of an exotic, affecting Anets earnings??

Vayne.8563:

IceVyper.6810:

Not exactly. If 99% of the collection is: go to this vendor and buy this, locking the final items behind RNG is just frustrating. I don’t mind having full RNG collections, I am the one that wants wants the fractal collection to be implemented. Items from a collection should have a similar way of acquisition, thus allowing us to complete at least some of them.

Again, by design. Did you ever play McDonald’s monopoly when they had it out. One property was ultra rare and all the other ones you can get.

They want people to get the easy ones and be left with one.

Because if it was all RNG a lot of people wouldn’t do it at all. This is part of game design theory. Gamers often have inertia and need a push. It’s true in all games. The games are designed to push people in certain directions. It’s done with holiday content. In older MMOs it’s done with end game zones. Keeps people together and doing stuff.

This isn’t really any different.

This doesn’t make it less frustrating and will definitely alienate a lot of people from the collections. I was really looking forward to them.

I am a bit surprised that more people aren’t upset about the poor rewards.

Not exactly. If 99% of the collection is: go to this vendor and buy this, locking the final items behind RNG is just frustrating. I don’t mind having full RNG collections, I am the one that wants wants the fractal collection to be implemented. Items from a collection should have a similar way of acquisition, thus allowing us to complete at least some of them.

I am in the same boat. I cannot complete any of the rare collections, because of silly items that are massively overpriced at the moment.

And if I happen to get those items as a drop, the big decision remains: do I sell it to a poor soul, willing to pay 10 times it’s value, or do I use it myself so I can get a lame reward. You are complaining that a regular 20 slot bag is 14 gold and you can get 6 bags with the money used to purchase the final items…

You can actually get a 20 slot bag for free, with fractal tokens, without having to pay 50 gold to the person hoarding the exotic Jars of kitten .

So Anet wanted youtubers to preview to collections to make people excited about them. They could have easily resticted them to showing only the basic collections that would not affect the market that much and let them mention: oh btw, if you collect all the ambrite weapons you get an ascended armor. That would have been enough.

The market was still going to get messed up when the patch came live, but more people would have had a chance to get some of those exotics on a more normal prices.

I believe that they actually wanted this to happen, thus forcing players to actually go hunt for the items, and not buy them from the TP.

When I heard that collections would be added to the game, I was extremely excited and couldn’t wait for the feature pack to be released. I would go through the wardrobe, look at items and try to guess what could belong to those collections. Some of them were pretty obvious: the dungeon sets and weapons. Seemed like the pefect way to make people run the unpopular dungeons.

When the update came live, I was very surprised to find out that none of the following made it into the collections, while the black lion weapons each had their own:

• Corrupted weapons
• Destroyer weapons
• Mist weapons
• Mystic weapons
• FRACTAL weapons
• Ascended weapons

However, what shocked me, were the rewards you receive from some of the rare collections, that cost players thousands of gold to complete.

• The reward for the ascended armor collection is a joke. A person who crafted all those super expensive armors, does not want a random exotic from a champ box, that used to cost between 1 and 20 g. A reward that makes a lot more sence would have been at least an ascended weapon box.

• The acolyte of Dwayna – I own the backpiece and the bows (the short bow via a precursor) , let’s say a cost of 1800 g. Reward: a stupid exotic. Again, why would a person using such expensive weapons, want to recieve a random exotic, that can be purchased off the TP after one full run of AC?

I believe the collections have a lot of potential to entertain people for a long time, but some of the rewards should be revised. I am not saying that they should give precursors, but it should be better than the exotics.