Well, a lot of players (myself included) actually went into pvp when the wardrobe was added, and the pvp UI was clarified. I think that the skins you unlocked at the time were added to your wardrobe. To make them appear on your ranger, you have to open the wardrobe tab in your hero panel. You’ll need transmutation charges, which can be easily obtained in any of the reward track you can select. Some of the armors you unlocked are now completely impossible to obtain for new players, like the stalwart armor. Talk about bragging rights! It means the armor you play in is your PvE armor as well, so at your lvl, you have everything except maybe helm and/or shoulders, that can be purchased in a WvW BL spawn for less than 200 karma points. Take the time to read the wiki to know what else has changed in PvP, cause actually we went through a lot of changes, not in the game mode but in the UI/organisation.
Dude, I have mad crafted armour and weapons freaking exotics out the kitten but I can\t use or even access any of it bc im level 2 in pvp with all my accounts….Do I have to grind to lvel 80 to use my stuff? Or do I have to pay some greasy man cash to get my skins/weaps back?
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Hello, I have over 1k pvp games on Heart of the Mists and 800 with Ranger alone. I preordered this game and played PVP from day 1 and never spent a minute in PV3 unless it was to create a new character for PVP.
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WHERE ARE MY LOCKERS AND WTF IS A LVL6 WARDROBE? Im a lvl 2 Ranger with a lot of pvp gear that took forever to unlock that I can;t use,(? ?)(? ?)
Everyone was very nice and welcomed me back, but I think I’ll just not play until they fix this nonsense. These changes are completely unnecessary when we needed better team objective gamemodes.
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Hello, I have over 1k pvp games on Heart of the Mists and 800 with Ranger alone. I preordered this game and played PVP from day 1 and never spent a minute in PV3 unless it was to create a new character for PVP.
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NOW WHERE ARE MY LOCKERS AND WTF IS A LVL6 WARDROBE? Im a lvl 2 Ranger with a lot of pvp gear that took forever to unlock that I can;t use,(??? ?)(??? ?)
Everyone was very nice and welcomed me back, but I think I’ll just not play until they fix this nonsense. These changes are completely unnecessary when we needed better team objective gamemodes.
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^That was happening and the general consensuses was…if I recall correctly, “L2P less QQ more pew pew.” Or something else constructive and helpful. How do you release something so broken, after spending so much ‘time and effort’ on pvp? I’d be okay with insta gibs if every profession had something just as easy and mindless as CnD/Backstab or oldschool heartseeker spam…you know without cooldowns and invisibility.
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You’re no the only one who can’t log in. I get the same message “Not available. Restore your account.” Funny how I can log into the forums, but play the game? Oh, no you can’t do that.
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Yeah, comparing GW2 to a highly PvP oriented game isn’t fair. I’ve been saying ‘try Forge’ a lot recently simply because it’s basically a better version of spvp, but new skills and mechanics to learn all over again and no customization. The game has a stun lock limit. Stun-lock-limit. That’s saying something about the devs. They know and listen to the bullkitten we/they are going through in GW2. It’s been kinda wierd switching from Gw2 pve to Forge for pvp, but it’s surprisingly efficient. I can even play it while I’m waiting for 3 hours in paid queue. Not to mention you can perma stealth with the assassin, but you’re revealed when hit…instantly no culling kitten.
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regarding Forge, i can see the appeal, but GW2’s combat system is way better, not to mention the AAA quality and customization available for your character.
Funny you mentioned that. I was hoping it was going to be brought up because I land more ranged attacks with the Pathfinder than with the Longbow XD. Nobody can side strafe your shots and I’ve seen people try, but get mowed down. There’s no ugly downed state and no self healing besides the shaman. Contrary to your opinion, I believe Forge is surpassing GW2 in the PvP department. It has a good blend of games packed into it: Halo (Godly Y-Axis movement), TF2 (fps skillshots), overall very fast movement speed, and GW2 mmo mechanics.
you go on a rant about spvp giving only aesthetic rewards, but imo it’s a great system, something that Forge wont have to the same extent, if EVER.
I know it is very appealing to mmo players and hat collectors. If you think the aesthetic rewards kinda all look like kitten, then what’s the point? Yes, the graphics are good and yes the game is beautiful. But, if all the gear looks the same or can’t been seen at all (Asura) what’s the point? Not to mention you can’t use all the available gear in the game because we are piece of kitten spvp players who don’t deserve it.
i totally feel you though, but im quite optimistic GW2 will be a more serious pvp game once the update rolls around in early 2013. right now, im still figuring out new builds and having fun.
I’m playing other games, but patiently waiting for the Mists to evolve just like I’ve been waiting for DayZ to evolve into a standalone.
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I’ll watch the video later, when I have time. But I have a quick question: Are rangers viable in tpvp? I just recently started playing spvp in random servers, and I’m trying not to sound like I have a big ego here, but I’ve been doing very well. I get #1 or #2 fairly often using a BM build. But I have a feeling that in tpvp I just might not be able to compete against more skilled players who know how to effectively use their profession. Could anyone shed some light on this, and briefly explain to me rangers general role in tpvp?
It depends on the role you want to play. I think there are far better options for burst and bunker, so I try and play as a healing/annoying/support/roaming/kitten. You can neutralize points and fly away if things get too hot, provide a lot of condition removal with the massive aoe healing spring, and a well timed aoe fear can help get people off the point temporarily. I don’t know the much about the meta ranger, and I don’t care to use it. However, I am interested in learning about it as you mentioned.
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I run Valk amulet; I can’t stand not being able to do weapon damage. S/D and GS don’t have much in the way of conditions so I got as much power as I could out of a 30 BM build for myself. I have around 2150, which is respectable even though my crit rate is really low.
I hear ya. My last build was pure glass cannon with GS/SD siamoth/panther, so I’m not alien to some fun damage builds. After that I ran a very balanced spec with celestial even though there’s so many better options than balanced, but I have fun and that’s what matters to me. In the video, my sentiments toward the build are clearly expressed, for in tpvp I try to get as many revives and support my team by serving as a distraction. Everyone wants to burst down the ranger, so if they choose to focus me it might bite them in the kitten because my team usually catches on. This build has 3000+ toughness and takes reduced damage while reviving…that’s pretty big for how evasive it is and I don’t mind sacrificing all my damage because the raven has a very nice burst up to 5k every 18 seconds.
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Combat:9/10
The combat is fun and interactive, and frankly the best of any MMO I’ve ever played.
Everything else: 3/10
The maps are stale, there’s no ladder/ranking, hotjoin is a zergfest, premades roll through free tournies, and paid ques take forever.
Final rating: 5/10
Needs new game modes (that are actually fun), ladder, ranking, new maps, and some way to draw casuals into PvP. No casuals = no viewers = no esport.
Here here! This is exactly how I feel, sir. I recently picked up Forge and haven’t logged into the dreaded mists for a long time. Maybe a year from now this game will have a proper PvP system. I look forward to that day.
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Ah, yup I see what you’re saying. Pets can be tricky for sure. I tend to let them go in and die first then fly in for a stun or possibly save someone. Rarely do I try and 1v1 people, but it just happens in every tpvp match, so I just build for survivability and hope to keep the point neutralized till the team gets there. Or hit their back point if it’s open. In the mean time I try and get Medic every game and just revive. Devoted my runes to Mercy and Shaman Amulet.
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Right on! It definitely is fun to pull people into your team or just starting fights and flying away. However, I don’t really find myself worrying about the Eles or Thieves too much being a tanky healing evasive ranger. Mostly the knock backs and massive aoe mark spam can shut me down instantly especially when signet of renewal doesn’t work all the time. I find it odd that I have no problem with the Signet of Stamina with my Warrior and yet it’s basically the same thing. ‘Press this button to cure conditions’. But, the fact that it’s tied to your pet and it can actually work against you depending on how you look at it if your traited for beastmaster signets or w/e. Also, many people expect me to switch to a LB/SB and start firing arrows. You can actually see one of the Thieves in the video side strafing to take advantage of the dreaded ‘Obstructed’. Even though I wasn’t shooting arrows at him >__>. Just another reason to go full melee I guess.
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I believe sword does the most physical damage out of all our weapons. Of course you have to live with the downside of being melee…
What is this downside you speak of? From what I know is the melee Ranger has incredible mobility unmatched by other professions if you use the skills in an evasive manner. 1h sword can stick to stealthed players if you’re lucky and you don’t have to watch a mass of Obstructed all day.
OP, I suggest you play with sword/dagger until you realize the effectiveness of it. It’s hardly wasted space.
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Can we get a zombie, too? Maybe a zombie griffon? Or a molten zombie griffon? This has been asked a million times and the last we got was another effing drake. Idk about anyone else, but I think the last thing we need is 5 drakes…Confusion is nice, but I like my abilities to not take 3 seconds to channel and not travel in a perfect parallel line.
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Our Utilities are weak. Straight up. Certain utilities should be blended together like Protect me and Sick Em. Signet of Beastmaster and Signet of Renewal. Trap skills should randomly throw out two traps, so you don’t have to dedicate your entire utility bar to traps. SotH is weak, too.
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I talk about…
*PuG vs Meta
*Comparable Games
*mods
Things to Watch for…
*Signet of Renewal isn’t very dependable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4iaVjMOTQ&t=12m35s)
*Ranger vs Pistol/Dagger Thief build (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R4iaVjMOTQ&t=6m0s)
*CnD can’t be blocked (watch the 1v1 vs the pistol Thief and see how I am blocking with GS and the Thief gets his ability to trigger anyway. What other skill works like this? Does Hilt Bash activate even though someone blocked it? I don’t know, but it seems a bit odd.)
*Shadow Refuge is out of place and spammed way to often to save teammates with no skill or dedicated healing/runes required. It should be a dedicated Healing Skill imo, not a utility.)
*Nasty root/glitch under stair cases.
*AOE/Knockbacks are a bit too strongk.
Role: Trying to play as an evasive healing support character. Defending/Attack back points.
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Everytime my guild go paid..I swear that I need to beg my friend to use his hammer or mace build, a warrior played intelligently is a great asset to any team…but that’s true for all professions
Massive AOE 3 second stun every 8 seconds? Yes, please.
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Each patch has a problem and it doesn’t get fixed, if at all, until the next patch…which is like 2-4weeks away.
This patch same thing.
Bringing back memories of every patch Tripwire put out with Red Orchestra 2 and every other beta..ever. Sad how that pvp lost 9/10ths of its playerbase in two months and has only seen play by devs and hardcore fans ever since.
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So what? He just wants to help. But, I think that’s how all dps focused melee classes play…go in..go out..heal..rinse and repeat. Even as a nub I played like everyone was a fed Talon or Vayne. I guess pve would have a really tough time if that’s what they’ve been doing in wow for 7 years or whatever. Maybe people with fps backgrounds just do better with warriors, so they don’t qq as much. I liked the vids regardless.
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PvP is good, but the rewards imbalances and putting spvpers in a small concentration camp with the bare essentials, limited gear, limited build variety, very limited game modes, poor rewards, long grind if your not farming glory against pugs, and overall a sense of disconnection with the rest of the game make spvp not fun. It’s not balance that’s ruining the game it’s paid vs frees vs hotjoin vs balancing the game for pve wvwvw, not being transparent, and giving pvers the royal rimmjobs when it comes to updates and content. Maybe in a year, the "tip of the iceberg’’ won’t be a kittening iceberg, but a place where pvp has fully blossomed into the golden child Anet is surely in the process of making…aren’t they? Right? Nah, I’m sure they are. I just hope it will be good enough to compete with whatever else is currently in the works…Forge cough and other games like Forge cough.
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Nope – Necromancers have Death Shroud as unique feature.
“Necromancers… summon the dead to fight for them.”-GW2
Straight from the gw2 webpage, even though not all necromancers summon the dead because they have the option not to. Perhaps he meant unique ‘gameplay mechanic’ because comparing Death Shroud to our “avoid combat” “guard” “attack” “f2” mechanics is laughable. Especially, since DS is instant and grants the user complete control. Rangers don’t have complete control over pets and I believe that is perhaps the greatest flaw.
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You don’t have a stay command in GW2 but you have a skill to make your pet defend an area tho.
The only thing i really want applied to GW2 is the AI, other than that i don’t really miss anything from it. Pet stow is a big no for me, ranger in GW2 has the unique feature of using pets, just like other classes have their own. If you make stow permanent then those classes should also ask for a similar buff to not use their “unique” feature.
Execpt Guard isn’t a good excuse because your pet will instantly come to help you instead of “staying”. Aren’t minions a unique feature to necromancer? They don’t lose DPS if they choose not to use minions.
OP’s list should have been on the blackboard for the Anet design team when the Ranger was in production.
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I don’t see how giving everyone on your team burning damage every 10 or 8 seconds via combustion could be bad? I like Warrior LB way more than Ranger LB and I main Ranger.
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That’s not lazy ranger it’s remote control killer mode. See you’ve found the joys of boon transfer and a nasty pet.
As an FYI when I tested boon transfer I noticed the pet gets no more than 5 second duration per application and doesn’t benefit from duration increase on boons transferred from the ranger to them under 5 seconds base. AKA a duration increased protection boon applied to the ranger lasting over 5 seconds remains 3.5 transferred to the pet. Something to consider in regards to going 30 points in nature.
Haha, yup this footage is a bit old and when I wanted to really make pets shine in spvp. Yes, actually the build I posted is incorrect and the points were spread out to better suit the “role” of the build. It’s nice taking advantage of clerics for that gnarly healing power. It increases your pets survivability seven fold, and if you know how to control the pet it will never die because they have the fastest movement speed in the game.
ps- if there’s any rangers that want to get together for a joke tpvp match on anvil rock add me. I want everyone to use beastmaster builds with their favorite pets. We can all send in 5 jaguars to fight on points while we heal them, lol. If we all focused the same person I’m guessing the damage from 5 jags would insta gib just about anyone.
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Fun video. Even better because it has Johnny Cash in it :P
My kitten. Hey, just want to say thanks everyone for not flaming me like they do in the spvp forums. I wasn’t able to reply to you guys for some time because they suspended my account after posing my 1v1 video, for “excessive use of capital letters”. I’m sorry, I though this was America?! That’s fine. If the mods want to keep all the qq and bug reports at the top of the SPVP forums, maybe I’ll just stay here or find new forums not run by neo nazis.
I do appreciate your comments a lot, because while I do enjoy making videos..it’s mostly for you guys!
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So you expect a warrior to use a warhorn in high end spvp for anything other then swiftness in between running to points? And then you also expect them to trait for it as well? LOL
Auto shake it off is terrible, it removes 1 condition every 30seconds, just absolutely horrible in game where some classes can easily stack 5 conditions on you instantly. And why would you take that trait over something else that is way more beneficial? Signet of Stamina has a pretty damn long cooldown.
Even the lead pvp developer has confirmed warriors have a problem in this department in the State of the Game video.
What Warriors? 100Blade warriors? Yeah, sorry. But, that kitten deserves to get CC locked. My cond damage and cond removal warrior has no problems with conditions…at all. If you don’t build for removal why the kitten should you deserve to have it?
LoL you play a “condition” warrior? That says all I need to know bro. I don’t use 100b. I am hammer/mace+shield shout build. You must play in hotjoins where most ppl are glass cannons and not condition specs.
LOL Hammer warrior having issues? You have an aoe 3 second stun every 8 seconds? LOLOL you’re whining about conditions! Wow that’s all i needed to know! Complaining about getting shutdown by necros who have zero direct stability. If you can’t time a good earthshatter on a necro who already lacks mobility my hat’s off to you, bud. Try and use a ranged weapon and fight the necro on equal ground instead of running whatever FOTM hammer mace build you got going on if it’s ranged conditions that scare you. You’re not going to be blocking any conditions with that worthless shield either.
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Okay, I’ll let you dye your weapons, but can I make a request, too? I want to dye my juvenile bear pink, because feeding my chameleon is more fun than spvp atm.
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So you expect a warrior to use a warhorn in high end spvp for anything other then swiftness in between running to points? And then you also expect them to trait for it as well? LOL
Auto shake it off is terrible, it removes 1 condition every 30seconds, just absolutely horrible in game where some classes can easily stack 5 conditions on you instantly. And why would you take that trait over something else that is way more beneficial? Signet of Stamina has a pretty damn long cooldown.
Even the lead pvp developer has confirmed warriors have a problem in this department in the State of the Game video.
What Warriors? 100Blade warriors? Yeah, sorry. But, that kitten deserves to get CC locked. My cond damage and cond removal warrior has no problems with conditions…at all. If you don’t build for removal why the kitten should you deserve to have it?
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^kitten I wish Long Range Shot was a chain skill. First shot is normal. Second does 5% more damage. Third is a flaming arrow that scales really well with condition damage. And fourth was an arrow tied to a rope that you can activate to pull the enemy toward you.
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Centaur + Withdraw = Nigh perma swiftness (30 points in acro makes it permanent), AND it helps out your team.
I just started rocking Centaur plus Troll Unguent and it makes catching Thieves a lot easier with gsword. I don’t really think the buff is necessary for all classes and think the Thief should have the best mobility, but the stealth condition pistol is a bit too strong imo. But, I can’t blame anyone for using it since all the nerfs to damage rather than stealth.
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Main hand axe melee? Rifle? Sounds very much like a warrior.
I play a gsword, sword/torch melee ranger because its fun. If I was going all optimal then I would go ranged and fit an axe mainhand (900) in somewhere.
Yup, gsword sword/dagger Ranger, here. I play a bit like an ele in that I can regen over 13,000 hp for 10 seconds and escape from nearly any fight just like a Thief/DD Ele can only I don’t have stealth… I have perma swiftness via centaur runes. Melee Ranger is possible, and it’s fun once you figure out how to use your weapon skills as escapes and teleports.
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It’s the only reason to use Guard. A lot of people moan about the pathing system, but Guard is a sure fire way to get your pet into almost any situation despite the terrain. If they make any changes that affect Guard’s current “teleporting” I will be extremely kitten
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Except you can’t tell right away they’re doing yoga, and they get upset when you pass them the ball and it hits them in the face.
This is not the communities fault. Again, if Anet would embrace dueling rather than disregarding it there would be easy distinction between 5v5 servers and 1v1 servers. So, you wouldn’t have to join a server and take 4 seconds of you time to ask,“are you dueling?” before leaving the gate. But, if that’s too hard for people to do I could understand how this would seem like a ‘plague’.
That’s what I’m talking about. I could care less if you do your 1v1s, but don’t get upset when players join and start playing before they realize what you’re doing. Sometimes it’s obvious, sometimes it isn’t.
Likewise. Don’t get upset when everyone gangs up on you for ruining a good show.
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The only issue is the root on 4 and the damage nerf. It’s my favorite weapon in the game for many reasons and I do hope they make a few quality of life improvements like giving Maul a small aoe around the ranger.
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And actually, the game is on our side. Our choices aren’t duel or get out… we can fight and take points as the mode is designed and do what we want… those options you posted are actually the choices of the people that wish to duel, as it should be, until the duel mode you want is added.
I try to join only 6/10 or higher, but it’s exactly the attitudes similar to the one present in the semantics of your post that make me just play now and ignore the complaints.
I don’t care what you do, but you wouldn’t walk up to a public basketball court and proclaim, “Hey! This is a full court. So, stop playing half court! Because I say so!” No, you wouldn’t because you’d get your face pushed in. Same rules apply in dueling servers. If you want to ruin peoples fun instead of finding a different server…You’re going to get stomped. It’s your choice. Maybe if people took dueling seriously in the first kittening place we wouldn’t be in this mess. Instead, dueling receives nothing but hysterical and irrational arguments. Dueling should be embraced with loving arms. Instead, it’s shunned and disregarded left in the gutter without shoes or clothes. However, there are noble soldiers who cling to the very essence of the most chivalrous game. We are few. We are proud. We are duelers.
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