Guild Wars 2

“4 burst heals”?

wot?

build isn’t bad but hey vitality? just go zerker all the way – dura runes will carry. RR is fun with the HoT stunbreak-on-demand warrior. tipp from myself: sigil of cleansing & brawler’s recovery = pooRR man’s cleansing ire.

zerg busting is easier than ever before with the boon stacking and healing available in hot. takes no skill either. life as a pug is kitten in hot.. when you could previously outplay/outswarm a bad guild group and punish their players who made a fault – now they just need to get the mechanics of boon stacking and healing down and no pug group of equal or a bit larger size can even put up a fight anymore. pugs cant make a contribution to fights against guild groups anymore in HoT and this is a major let down for a game that is supposed to be casual-friendly. hot has provided tools for every organized group to farm pugs easymode when previously you actually needed some skill. free condi immunity, free -33% incoming damage, massive aoe heals – no random players can outskill that stuff.

Here are your options:
1. Transfer
2. Wait for next Server-Linking

I really marvel at the audacity of the people saying things like “you need to run proper wvw builds” or “try to organize and get all people in one zerg”… stop being so god kitten constructive you fools. That Sever-triple is dead and nothing short of a mass transfer or new server-linking can improve WvW experience for the people down there. I’m sorry but that is how the system always has been – bottom of the barrel gets abandoned because people can’t stand losing in the long run. If you compare the transfers into higher tier servers to the transfers to lower tier servers you probably get a ratio like 50:1.

warrior (berserker) has only 1 build / trait set and yes that one is “OP” as in it roflstomps most builds / classes including every other warrior build with ease. still a really good thief/daredevil kills that warrior 10:0 without leaving them a chance and a condi mesmer can also win rather easily, power mesmer is a good matchup. the rest of the classes out there don’t really have a chance unless the warrior sucks which isn’t a problem because 19 out of 20 warriors suck.

my advice for fighting them – kite kite kite. warrior is surely most easily kited, just be sure to keep your mobilities to gain some distance after GS 5: rush skill. warrior doesn’t have any other long distance movement skills. the problem is they also sustain very well whenever they are able to land a burst skill so if you can’t apply decent damage while kiting.. well well… you see why thief and mesmer are doing so well against warrior :>

And hey Cynz – none but isn’t that exactly how a warrior should be? What would a warrior be if he could not force someone off point…

So Vanilla War went to Redbriar, broke down the gate with [Kick] and screamed [Fear Me!]. Some foolish enemies remained within, so Vanilla War said [For Great Justice!] and went [Berseker] on them with 250 Stacks of Might. Feeling the [Adrenaline Rush] Vanilla War turned his eyes on the local Lord and shouted [To The Limit!]. The Lord immediately sent his trusted Veteran Guards on him, but Vanilla War took a [Balanced Stance] and applied [Hundred Blades] with [Outrage]. One quick [Rush] later the Lord was on his knees before Vanilla War, but nevertheless got [Impale] with a [Final Thrust]… and thus ended the [Rampage] of Vanilla War at Redbriar, [Rip].

I see no point in balance discussions anymore since HoT – yes they toned down a few excessive OP things, you could call it “balancing” – but all things considered the state of class design / power balance is much worse than when the game started and as pointed out above by others would need massive redesign and balance work. good thing everything hits hard as hell and heals a lot in HoT so you don’t really notice it that much, the game still makes a good impression of an action mmorpg.

my arc divider sometimes hits upwards of 10k on players and i’m not quite full zerker with cheap food & pack runes. 15k seems about as hard as it can get though, but well possible for a warrior who builds for it with all modifiers, might stacks, good food and maybe even a guild aura in proximity.

https://youtu.be/w2zlgwO-EZ0?t=261

typical thief xD

dude if its anyway similar to where i work (and it surely is, NCSoft being big IT enterprise) they dont have time for quality. everyone is producing kitten these days. sure the core stuff works as its being tested, but everything that the boss doesnt understand or cant measure isnt really important. and from my experience they usually understand kitten all, id be very suprised if the people in charge of NCSoft even play games. and if they do they do it only because they “owe it to themselves” and would get rekt by 98% of the wvw population in a 1v1.

as for the workers, they lose half of the time simply by making up for all the sticks in the way of getting anything done and dont have much control over what they are working on. thats why i expect nothing anymore, they are getting your dollahz and once they dont they move on to the next product, aka next expansion or a bit later next game so you can bend over again and deliver your bucks.

if you really want to change all this kitten you need to take their power away and leave making games to the people with a passion, not to the people creating incomes. the passionate people who created the engine and designed the core wvw are long gone you bet, they are probably well paid by some other IT enterprise by now. correct me if im wrong. /rant over

yeah you rotate really well between spamming your GS burst, ww, auto attacking and using your dodge macro. warrior king of rotation.

axe / shield / gs POV:

1. constant pressure untill they run out of cooldowns.
2. dodge every single bow #2, better even reflect it.
3. traps can be avoided if you expect them.

for me fighting a good dh comes down to outsustaining and thus running a tanky build, its a lot harder if you cant take punishment because DH will land it no doubt. DH (guards naturally) can blow through a lot of cooldowns for sustain, but without them their sustain is actually bad, unlike warrior. so your first real opening is very late into the duel compared to every other class. also you need to put up constant pressure to actually make them blow their cooldowns – once they are out of protection, invuln and their block kitten is currently on CD – smack them hard. real hard like a warrior. it wont kill them but from there its manageable because they will be fleeing, likely panic a bit and start to make mistakes. keep focussing now and dont make the mistake of thinking its over, you need to land a few more hits still and itdid not suddenly become easy. once their elite is back on you are screwed for another minute so press your advantage and finish the job.

what makes a great roaming warrior is mostly knowing all the other classes xD when you get screwed over there are no real out of jail cards like blink on high ground, go to stealth, get out of range instantly – stuff like that. so better know what’s dangerous before it hits. fighting a build you never fought before is usually GG for warrior as you have way less of a strategy then other classes. i feel like we have all the tools needed to deal with all of the stuff – but its precision work, you cant spam kitten like a mesmer (except in berserker mode, wahoo) – nor get out of jail.

from my very little experience you cant afford stats in toughness or vitaility in spvp, thats for wvw. interesting build, the only thing that strikes me as odd is the distribution of sigils. hydro / leeching seem straight from the eviscerate build, if the build aims to get skull crack -> 100b i would put hydro on mace. prolly doom to gs to suppress healing when i deliver the pressure.

first come all the builds that chain invuln, blocks, evade, stealth, mobility.. most noticeably stealth mesmers, d/p & d/d thief, evasion thief, ghost thief, evasion ranger, certain rev builds, certain dh builds and last but not least stealth scrapper, to an extent also species of my own class – berserker warriors with double endure pain & traited shield.

then i hate every single and last condition burst build. burn guard, condi necro, condi thief.. etc.

most enjoyable fights on warrior are:
other power warriors, staff daredevil, elementalist, power engi, power ranger.

.. duelling outside spvp (cant talk about spvp) went down the drain hand in hand with all the other bad design decisions, most noticeably, but not exclusively with HoT. too much paper, rock, scissors, too much cheese as described above and balance overall is just terrible terrible terrible atm in WvW.

yeah even Germans git gud with that kitten. boon stacking noobs everywhere.

yeah good luck with that.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

It’s really not all that powerful in 1v1 against an experienced opponent. (It’s great fun against newer players, of course, but it’s not nearly as useful as the other elites.)

guess you never got double moa’d by a chrono while having 10 confusion & 10 torment on your kitten . its easily the most broken elite in the game for 1v1 because you deprive your enemy of all their means completely, it has no counterplay.

players already spoke with their wallets, they left WvW by the ten thousands even though everyone (still) agrees the engine makes for the best action combat currently available.

in all competitive scenarios the playing field needs to be as level as possible or enjoyment will die faster then you can say “unfair”. fighting boon share zergs without boon sharing yourself is absolutely impossible. therefor i vote for everyone getting all boons all the time.

kitten grown-ups .. no favourite npc, no favourite map, no favourite ice cream. format c:\ boys. jon, google “atari breakout” and click pictures. hope i made your day!

i dont have any trouble dealing damage or taking damage vs druids.. but the buggers always run off with their super distance leaps.

25% boon duration for bersi resistance, healing signet resistance, stability, regen… etc. toughness, free 1.2k health, protection on getting hit.. compared to 10% crit chance and 8% speed.. i’m ok if you say pack is good for offensive warrior – but if you cant see why durability is super strong (a lot of people me included would say OP) you are a fool…

sorry mate im at work atm and cant watch youtube vids here.. if you remind me via pm in 5 days i’ll get to it as i’ll have internet at home again and i would be interested aswell to see the duel.

yeah the new adrenal health only activates on landing a burst which isnt blocked or evaded or something..

sincerely, a warrior main

I don’t think the ship has sailed.. this is still the best action combat out there. its still a huge company with lots of money and people to make stuff happen. It would be no problem to make diamond out of this rough gem (except the technical issues). however.. the people in charge are not competitive gamers (the few of them who sometimes dip into it – are assigned to pvp), they never played a game competitively in their life, they got hired to create PVE content and build fantasy dreamland, not a competitive RvR game. and that is the only reason this game mode will go nowhere ever – the people who have their hands on this game are not competent to build the thing we want to play and they arent even interested… they never thought this game mode would go anywhere and they still dont and even if they were interested to make it happen they couldnt because they lack insight and experience. but that’s really all of it – game is anet’s property and they can do whatever they want with it and they arent the first ones to run brillant designs into the ground either, first rvr game i played 15+ years ago was a huge success right untill the devs started to sell upgrade materials for money – game closed half year later and nobody ever heard from it since. it doesnt take much to kitten things up in rvr games..

i can flip a T3 camp by standing still and swinging GS #1 and use 2 of my utilities (stances)… yeah its way too easy right now.. but camps shouldnt take much longer (a bit is ok though), they should be much stronger! a T3 camp wont even protect someone from me when i want their head, their damage is tiny.. camps need to do actual damage. the only thing you have to keep an eye on there are the blinds from the scouts.

IMO just add 2 more veteran guards -> 1 more for T1, 1 more for T3. and raise overall guard damage by 25%

Press B and join Eternal Battlegrounds.

“To be honest I’d prefer to see all of RoF capped by AM than one camp capped by GH. "

do you think we didnt notice that most of RoF thinks like that? Only thing we wonder is why you guys are so kitten salty, what did GH ever do to you except steamroll you like every other server did?

wow maybe last night for an hour.. do you really think you would just be 30k behind if it was real double teaming going on? you wouldnt even get out of spawn in EB and your home border would look like yesterday before prime all week long, being camped by abaddon. i insist: RoF is mostly left alone in this and last matchup – because the real fight is GH vs AM and RoF are just bystanders who cap paper when nobody is there – except for that small amount of time when BTA and other guilds raid you can never fight back. in fact and truth, you guys are the ones “double-teaming” because you always push the side that’s being pushed already, on account of your weakness you have no other choice.

RoF isnt being double teamed, you are left alone most of the day except for some ppt-hungry AM blobs cruising through your border after they tried our T3.

aahmygod those zerker crits – scary! nice vid, nice warrior. all out dps build though, i imagine you get laid a lot by condi classes running like this. id recommend cleansing ire and a sigil of purity or generosity to be more versatile, not sure that RR stuff really does its job :P

if you are a good player and have enough condi cleanse (2 big ifs) you can stay alive against this build.. but thats it. broken as kitten if you ask me… like seriously.. why would you design this? the only reason i can come up with is to troll everyone who ever complained about stealth by saying “look here, we can make it much worse!”. this is definitely THE lamest build in wvw atm, by a large margin.

the only thing needed to bring skill groups back on top is the removal of AOE cap. unfortunately servers cant handle it because they are busy calculating the damage of your flesh worms and kitten like that.

also on another note: this build does not work in pvp. you can keep sigils, weapons, most of the traits – but the armored attack principle thats the foundation of this build – it does not work in pvp, the damage reduction isnt as high and the damage output is very underwhelming – unlike in wvw with 25 bloodlust and asc gear. instead switch armored attack for defy pain and slap on berserker ammy and scholar runes and go full yolo.

lol yeah those defender runes are prolly even more broken then durability, i remember duelling someone with those. but tbh runes arent the important/defining part of this build – slap on whatever you want, even scholar. i picked dura because i love the extra health (base health warrior is a bit too low for me) and the rune bonus works well in small groups which i often join in wvw – plus its toughness based for added power and boon duration for my SoR.

about GS – the damage i get out of it is comboing into Whirlwind with hydro and leeching (signet of air in the build) after landing axe burst. gs auto hits hard and is as easy as every other melee weapon. 100b – just for cleaving on downed actually. gs 4 you can use it but its easily sidestepped, just like GS #5 which rarely hits a moving target. but GS 5 can do some huge mobility if you get that added distance at the end and if it actually connects by accident its a hard hit… plus gs 4 into 5 make for some nice bursty engage when it lands – if not, who cares..

@that baby: the title is a bit misleading, this build isnt actually trying to tank well (yeah mace main be it there) – its just very very tanky

yeah those skills got normalized and dont depend on your own movement speed at that moment anymore.

why would you say that emkelly, it doesnt make sense either way.
choppy my money would be on the vanilla.. but yeah not very sure.
if we could get 2 high end players to duel it out for us ..

you landing lots of head butt in 1v1? not against good players – so berserker is basically just a bad vanilla most of the time. i havent lost a single duel vs a berserker spec so far, but 1 time vs other vanilla xD biggest deepz would of course be str & zerk & disc

no warriors dont have enough healing – all their healing is in a single trait and the rest is just small numbers – thats why EVERYONE runs defense trait line – simply because of that one OP (minor, lol) trait. shouts need better healing with healing power, ermkelly + 1 – also AH needs nerf and there need to be more options for warrior healing distributed through all the trait lines trading off with damage traits.

Brekknar.3567:

That build you posted is for PvP, and uses a Mace/Shield. Not really even close to what I was looking for. Thank you for trying, I think?

i thought axe or mace is fine.. didnt assume you would want to run a condi build with mainhand axe because that would be really silly as axe has zero condis nor interrupts.

http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Berserker_-_Macebow

enjoy

Wvw Roaming / Small Scale

Nothing special, but still all around good. L2War on this, great build for new players. Hits pretty hard and can take a lot of punishment.. better against power then against condi, but can deal with both.

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vJAQNAneRjMdQVI2FCOeAnIG6BKtNC/0wCgPICwaYxjBA-T1CEABwv/QhKBB4BAoneACOCAQcIAmUdlsPBANqSRUK/iTTw3ABgRkA8//3kkEhAEMGA-w

Its extremely important for warrior (especially vanilla because of lower frequency and harder ot land) these days to land burst for Adrenal Health. You can hit pets, moskitos, illusions – anything – just make sure you do hit SOMETHING or your sustain will go downhill fast and all your tankyness wont do much because of lack of healing.

Full ascended stats: 4.3k+ armor, 2.8k+ power, 42%+ crit, 170%+ crit dmg

Before i got banned again (sigh..) I was talking about a new warrior build – it was something like this but with berzerker trait line, different runes etc.. – turns out though vanilla is about as powerfull if not even more powerfull.. so nvm just gogo vanilla, i’ll leave it to other guys to find a berserker spec that really beats vanilla, i didnt find any which would stand out enough vs something like this build.

All the bloody protection and resistance stacking needs to go ASAP.

no game of paper rock scisscors is ever competitive and Anet/NCSoft will never learn that so no. How many competitive games did NCSoft make so far? None. They are just a bunch of content creators on the production line, they dont have the time nor energy nor the skill to fix this mess, hence they go in all directions at once and try to alleviate pain but dont actually fix anything. they lack vision.

tbh i dont think GH cares even half as much about RoF as the other way round. RoF lost a lot of people to GH.. GH got people from everywhere and lost a lot of people to everywhere.. we dont have any special grudge and the only RoF guys still around GH i’m aware of are TaG. that’s been like 2 years now.. lol.

on the matter of karma training your border: blobs go where the paper is! GH defending better this week as UW kicks kitten and some old folks came back. Btw you say we blob? You haven’t seen anything yet, our favourite blob leader is back since few days only – prepare your backsides :P

not quite sure why you want more glicko when you are the weakest server pair atm RoF needs to work on their blobbing skills … i see TONS of invaders and scouts who have no plan of what to do and need training. i really ENVY you for the amount of new people coming to your server and trying out wvw. But you really need to offer them some victories, not just capping back your border when the enemy moved to next target. So build and bring that blob, there is no better enemy then AM to train your pugs – their fighting skills are just as bad as yours and they still dont have the real map blobs like they used to, just 50ish now – pretty sure you can match them – to me it seems rather a case of RoF burning themselves out last week against GH with pointless PPT. Pretty sure AM wouldnt do kitten on your BL if you ran like last week.

Zavik.9751:

Thanks for the feedback. You say I won’t be able to kill a mesmer with those weapons, is there a better weapon set to go with?

nah, not really (for power damage). rifle is good, sword is useful, mace is nasty.. but axe just hurts real bad. mesmer just op, nvm. maybe some condi builds can kill them, maybe rifle has a chance.. no kitten idea because i’m always dead after double moa with 10 torment & confusion stacks.

build seems fine if you got some additional cleansing from sigils.
i go for armored attack with knights gear on that spec, bit cavalier. also dropped endure pain for signet of endurance for bomb clear and more dodge spam.
zerker seems to lack damage a bit when not in zerker mode spamming burst, vanilla hits much harder (but its harder to land burst).
with current damage levels & balance in wvw the thought of going zerker gear as warrior strikes me as suicidal. all classes got kittentons of evades, invuln, stealth.. you can count on them outlasting your stances and then you are dead. and you’ll never kill a good mesmer (or chrono) with those weaopns, rest should be possible though.

oh and yes – 2 hours not enough. took me like 2 days to get familiar with zerker playstyle. i’m not the fastest man on earth ofc but 2 hours seems hardly enough to get a good feel for the combos. 2 hours is what i practiced at dummies before i took the spec out in wvw for first time xD

expect the new wvw warrior power meta build to hit the scene any day now – working on the last details / min max. pro scrapper / dh already got rekt repeatedly against someone running it first day, looks very promising. will let this forum know when it’s out.

I post this in the WvW section because almost all of my experience is from WvW. This is probably NOT accurate for spvp where (for all i know) general damage is a lot lower.

-> Increase EHP (while keeping the amount of healing): Currently WvW is too fast, there is too much damage. 1hits and stuff.. battle needs to last for a bit and a single fault or missed skill should not be fatal.

-> Decrease Cheese: Stealth, Transformation, hard CC to a degree, Invulnerabilities to a degree: Mechanics without counterplay are not good action combat. At least put them on a huge cooldown like Moa. Also want to mention conditions in general here as they require you to “counterplay” (aka switching a util or weapon) before engaging, just something to think about.

-> Create Options: All trait lines need to provide condi cleanses, passive healing, both power and condi options etc.: they should differ by the playstyle, not by the stats you pick. stats got removed, but the philosophy of designing trait lines or weapons for specific stats is still there in large parts, though better throughout the HoT trait lines.