Guild Wars 2

katz.8376:

too bad EU and NA servers are separate. Vabbi/FoW/ET might be interesting

That is a great idea!

Merge EU/NA into a single system, have all 51 Servers battle across 17 tiers.

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NA T8 server saying our part. Yah, we are going to lose, what else is new, but at least it not the same match up week in and week out, and next week it will be different.

MrkittennHoudini.7842:

This would be a fun match up if ET didn’t roll over to SF. I commanded WvW tonight and wiped SF zergs every time we met up only time they won was when we tried to get our keep back and they had acs everywhere. So with ET not pushing SF, they only focus on us and ET has their little groups running around our BL instead of SF. Thought since you had 10 points tonight you would want revenge of SF but guess not.

Hey! We sent 3 people to attack SF.. that’s like 147% of our entire army.. cut us some slack.

Sororita.3465:

geez what happened to you guys since GoM went back up to tier 7.

We had pretty much all our main WvW guilds move to other servers. Really. we were barely holding last place on T8, and lets be real, with the new random match up idea they had, it was not going to even things out for ET, it was just going to give us a greater potential to face higher tier servers, and thus just get over run even more.

In the end, as others may have joked. but the truth is, ET simply does not, and it pretty much never really did have, a solid focused WvW population.

Any guild that is looking to grow or become accomplished on ET is PvE focused, and in that front, we do get people moving to ET because we have an active PvE base of people. Case in point, we were running loot circles in Southsun on reset night with several commanders and a larger zerg of players then we ever saw in WvW.

But since you do not need to transfer to enjoy the PvE events on a server, people guest to ET and enjoy our active PvE player base. But the WvW population dwindles.

Really, I don’t blame anyone, as a single person, even 5 people are not going to make an impact when the match up is so lop sided, the reality is, our opponents can almost cap queue or might even have a queue on some nights, and we are struggling to get 10 people on the field. This is not a dis, or a jab, but the reality of the situation. Our opponents are not bad people, and we are not hero’s. We are just have a low WvW population.

Really, I said before, and I’ll say it again. Server vs Server was not a good idea, they should have made wvw into a Guild vs Guild type of deal, like the name “Guild Wars” implies.

I have advocated that “worlds” should be purchasable by Guilds, and then other guilds could join their alliances, (and need to be accepted).

Sure, that would some strong, some weak, and all that jazz, but there would be more “worlds” and players would not be stuck in them, needing to pay fees to move.

They could also apply a more simplistic system, like a Sports Bracket, that only had 3 day fights, and at the end of the season reset, with the Winning Guild getting a tangible reward.

It would be a better overall system, because it would make the “Worlds” more like sports teams, as opposed to what they have now.

Grommet.2963:

You can bet me and Un bashed heads when the SF trolling went on, respect is important, and I don’t let something like that go on for long once it’s discovered, he left before I could even do a ban.

Yah.. LOL… We had a mutual flipping of the bird.

Xom.9264:

Yeah I used to think everyone tried to kill me because they thought I was really good and hard to kill.

Why would you think that?

Once you die.. you have an set limit of time to respond before you are kicked for being inactive.

Mercurio.4970:

LOL, this Filthy bounty thing is cracking me up! He is great at metagame stuff involving giving away his money. Raffles, bounties, what’s next? Maybe we’ll see a WvW JP thunderdome soon?

I hope no one puts a bounty on [ND] because I’m a kamikaze guardian with terrible map awareness and a very sensitive disposition. Plus I might make the local server sheriff broke from buying up my scalps.

ND is under no risk. I mean you no disrespect but, beyond Rat, ND may as well not exist.

However, I’ll be honest, It strokes my ego to no end to see that I had such impact on you all. Really, this makes me look like the most Legendary famous person on any of the 3 Servers.

Sincerely, Thanks Rat and Silver, this has made me akin to a God among mortals.

But, If you want to get the chance to actually spike me however, You will need pay 100 Gold, and I’ll meet you by the ET BL Windmil, assuming of course you can actually beat me that is.

katz.8376:

mmm. do i get anything if i spike a rat?

Oh I can’t resist, I’ll take that action and put up 5 silver*, he’s only worth half as much as a [PK] member

*while supplies last.

silverfire.2547:

In the interest of spicing things up, Filthy put up a bounty of 10s for each screenshot of [PK] getting spiked by an SF.

Totally gonna spend a lot of time in a borderland

Thank Ungood for any undue hate you receive this week!

Why? I have not been in [PK] for a long time now, I left them before you all left T8. You need to get your sources updated.

Anyway, my guild moved off ET last week, and I am just tying up some loose ends right now, none of which involve WvW.

So while I fought SF for 13 weeks straight in the past, I will not be involved in this encounter. Even So, I hope you all make a good deal of profit from Filthy and I wish you well on the field.

And come on, you guys know me, if I was going to be on the field and still in [PK] I am enough of a troll that I would just stand around and get endlessly spiked by you till he went broke. LOL

But I know the members of [PK] have far more dignity then to do that, so you will have to earn your 10s from them.

But regardless of all the polite smack talk, I sincerely wish everyone on SF good luck and good fortune this week and your future match ups.

We the Undaunted
Lead by the Rentless
Are doing the Impossible
Against the Overwhelming.
We have done
So much
For so long
We are now Qualified
To Defend Anything
With Nothing.

osif.8673:

Ungood.3054:

Seems we veered off topic a bit and It’s late for me, I first read that as “if you call bad people leaving advertisement, then glad I could help” and I was about to thank you for it, LOL.

You got that one covered yourself.

Thanks. Anyway, I think we are way off topic now, lets get back to how much we hate each other

salluks.6017:

What i don’t understand is why don’t the Devs interact with the community to reach to a common understanding rather than just making changes and players getting furious over it and then reverting it??

Because there is not a single change, idea, or concept that could be put forth that at least some fraction of the community would hate.

Zen.8497:

The problem is that any rating systems are methods for assessing players/servers strength in games and not to fix them. The root cause is uneven population and scoring system which rewards coverage and population.

They could fix this by putting in a means to limit each world to be only able to field the same number of people.

Say for example.. you put in a mandatory 5 min Queue to get into the WvW System. Then the people that entered the queue would be allowed to enter the WvW system in equal numbers with the other servers.

IE: Each team is limited on how many people they can have in the whole of WvW, based on how many people each side has on the whole of WvW.

Once in the WvW System, they would be free to move about any map, so queues for maps and such would go away.

In Example- Lets say JQ had 100 in the system and 100 more hit the Queue, and Blackate had 98 people because 2 just left, and 70 more in queue. Blackgate would get all 70 people into the WvW system on the next 5 min pulse, and JQ would get 68.

I guess they could even put the number up on the WvW panel, so that players know if they have a chance to get into the WvW game at all tonight. If you see that you server is filling the Queue, and the other servers have no one waiting to get in, then you might not get to play tonight.

I guess a kick mechanic would also need to be put in, like if a server had a lot people just leave, then a re-balancing would need to happen at the 5 min pulse, and people would need to opt to leave WvW or run he risk of being RNG kicked.

IE: Lets say, ET has 40 people in the system and FC has 34 because 6 people left, both have no one in the Queue, so a quick “re-balancing – 6 people must leave” would come up for ET, like it does in sPvP, and players could opt to leave, but would see the number count down, so that 10 people don’t jump ship, and even if they did, then FC would need to lose people by the next 5 min pulse, to keep things even.

I suppose a 10% variable could be allowed, so you are not kicking single people when you have hundreds playing.

Do I think people would be happy about that kind of equalizing, I doubt it, but it would balance the forces out. But we all know, players would complain about that “feature” and if not that, they would complain about something else.

Aurust.8961:

Can Kaineng beat JQ? No not a chance. Until the scoring system favors skill over coverage there is no fix.

Why do people say this?

I mean, if I went to play a game, that say, the way you win the game was to pop balloons, I would find it odd that players would fuss they are losing the game because it was not deigned to cater to their platform jumping skills.

Say for example – If I felt the most skill in WvW involved being able to solo naked run though a camp and see how many rabbits I could kill with a plank. Then that is what I make of the game, and I very well may be the best player in the entire game at being able to do that, but that does not mean anyone else needs to have their game adjusted to cater to what I find enjoyable or be forced to be measured by what I think is mark of skill in the game.

Tyr.5912:

I miss DAoC!!!… I want my Sorc back!

Ummmm I am confused, DAOC is still around. If you want to play that as opposed to this game, there is no reason why you should’t go and enjoy yourself.

Sleel.8365:

Setun.4368:

Sleel.8365:

snowaugar.1823:

Kitten kitten mewl mewl zerging isn’t bad l2 counter the zerg -insert arrow cart joke here- its not hard when u l2 organize

Actually, the best nerf to mindless zergballs is to remove the stupid AOE limit. If I poison a room, more then 5 ppl are going to choke on it if there are 20 in it. I laugh at the ones that say a few ppl shouldn’t be able to hold off a massive number. Tell that to the 300 at Thermopylae. Or any of the other “lost cause, last stands” in history. Artillery hits more the 5 when it goes off overhead too, or any of a number of examples. You’d still have the same number of ppl there, just can’t exploit a stupid hit limit that’s brain damaged, and they’d have to spread out to minimize it’s effect, just like real soldiers do.

No one yells “Incoming! BALL UP!”

I definitely believe siege weapons should have no cap at all. Player aoe cap I can understand getting away with, but if a ballista punches through 20+ people sitting on top of each other they should all feel it.

Ahh. So when I throw a grenade into a group of ten ppl it will politely decline to hurt half of them…..

That is what happens when we don’t take friendly fire.

When you side fires arrow cart against the enemy, and they get hit and you don’t, that is not realistic at all, neither is players shooting guns, bows, throwing axes and swinging massive greatswords wildly in at everything around them and not hitting each other in the process.

In fact, to be realistic, every AoE effect should hit everything around it, regardless of friend or foe, but we all realize that games suspend reality for the sake of a better more enjoyable playing environment.

subcrazy.1098:

Ungood.3054:

subcrazy.1098:

osif.8673:

I just took some time to read through Ungood’s thread on his little separate QQ forum… made my day. It must be eating him up not being able to respond on these forums, as he posts responses to subcrazy on the whine about PAXA thread. Really, can’t wait 3 days? Too long of a vacation for a forum warrior? lol. So money.

Its like trolling with out really trolling. Who knew. Umm score update please.

Hi.

To answer your question. It does not chew me up to be honest, in fact I could have responded to you yesterday.

Anyway, thanks for the free advertisement to the public ET forums.

Also, You can get up to minute score updates with maps Here

If you call bad press and ppl leaving, advertisement that you want, then glad I can help.

Cheers.

Seems we veered off topic a bit and It’s late for me, I first read that as “if you call bad people leaving advertisement, then glad I could help” and I was about to thank you for it, LOL.

Also, and please don’t take this the wrong way, but, we need to pause and realize that Anet has no real need to keep people playing. With the new move of MMO’s being more F2P or a 1 time fee, designers, and developers get to make the game they want to make, and let the people make the choice to stay around or not. Since the era of the sub went away, so did the need to keep players running the hamster wheel.

If players get bored, burned out, and feel the need to move on, such is life. If players are enjoying it, then play, have fun, enjoy it. There is no contract anymore, no need to slave for the sub, or a feeling of losing anything by taking a break it, you can come and go as you please. It’s liberating really.

I mean, I could be missing something, but, when I see players staying in a game that they feel discontent with, they can’t be doing anyone any favors, least of all, themselves.

I mean, it seems from the post that people are, for lack of a better way to put this, forcing themselves to play a game they to the point of harboring aggression or hostility towards it. Maybe contempt? Really, it hard to put a name to it, but no matter what it may be called, it’s not a favorable environment for anyone involved or witnessing it.

I guess what I am trying to say, is that GW2 or any MMO, no matter how complex it is, is really just a means of entertainment, like a book or movie, or even some console game, if you are not having fun playing, it’s not entertaining, and you are not enjoying it, perhaps it is time to move on, find something new, try some other war games, or whatever.

If you feel that DAOC or Warhammer Online was better, then go play that, get a fresh look, and see, maybe it is all you thought it was, maybe it’s not. Go sample, try new games, and have some fun.

Anet set up an entire system around 5v5, and 8v8, called sPvP.

World vs World is supposed to be about large groups of people fighting.

Each tier tends to have the limits by what they field, so if you were looking for smaller battles, say 20 v 20, then you need to look for servers that offer that, which do exist.

subcrazy.1098:

osif.8673:

I just took some time to read through Ungood’s thread on his little separate QQ forum… made my day. It must be eating him up not being able to respond on these forums, as he posts responses to subcrazy on the whine about PAXA thread. Really, can’t wait 3 days? Too long of a vacation for a forum warrior? lol. So money.

Its like trolling with out really trolling. Who knew. Umm score update please.

Hi.

To answer your question. It does not chew me up to be honest, in fact I could have responded to you yesterday.

Anyway, thanks for the free advertisement to the public ET forums.

Also, You can get up to minute score updates with maps Here

Just bought the Harvesting Sickle thing for 800 diamonds and was glad to do it.

So.. all I need now is the logging axe to complete the collection

I think GW2 is a great game, the best MMO I have played to date.

osif.8673:

You know you’re kittening awesome when you get a 3 day forum ban for calling your own guildy bad. SUP

Ok that right there, is some proper win.

Tak.2659:

Why do you all have so much fun in zerg fights? Seriously, I don’t understand how that is fun for people. There is very limited strategy involved…biggest army wins most of the time.

My small guild and I came to gw2 WvWvW expecting some viability of smaller groups. Beta was great, far less Zergy…now the WvWvW is just not fun for people who don’t like Huge fights. This is why most of my friends are no longer active in this game. Spvp is fun…but it isn’t the same. I agree with an earlier post, there should be a middle ground between Spvp and OMG ZERG fights of Wvw.

Alas….it is not so.

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In T8, our “zerg” is exactly what you are looking for. Some days, it’s even as little as five people trying to find off 20 at Hills, other days, we can get some huge battles of 20 vs going, and they feel epic. Skills blasting off, small teams braking off to duel it out, single targeting out one player to kill, because you know them. Our battles can go from small duels to just brutal grudge match. It;s up close, it’s personal, and every body on the field, matters.

You want to talk solo skills, we cap fully ungraded camps solo all the time, because that is what we need to do, because the other 5 total players on the field are trying to stop Garrison from being overrun by a force 3 times our size.

You want some 1 v 3 or 2 v 5, all over the field with skirmishes, we have those by the bucket full on T8. Do you want be known, T8, people are known, heros are made by their actions, and no one is tossed to the wayside.

Are you looking for siege fights that are decided in 20 minuets as opposed to hours, that’s T8 for you, fast, brutal, and decisive fights, towers flipping like traffic signals on a daily basis, and with how much our camps change hands you would think there was profit in it.

For real, we think 8 people is enough to take a defended tower.

So yes. WvW, does provide all you want, you just need to find the right place to get it, just like the guild you join, or the part of the game you want to play, the server you are on, tells how your world is going to be. If you want the 20/20, then you are not going to find that in a server that is maxing queues every day, all day.

You need to move on to the places and servers that have the wvw experience you are looking for. So, as opposed to trying to force the rest of your server to play the way you want, try your hand at going to servers that are already playing that way and loving it.

Snowstorm.3897:

ANet’s current servers cannot handle what the community is asking for with the 80vs80, servers are melting, frequent DC’s, skill lag, crashes, etc etc. I don’t care how ‘epic’ a fight is, if the only thing I can use is ‘1’, and half of the force DC’s mid way through a fight, thats pretty **** and not enjoyable IMO.

Then the solution is to fix the skill lag problem.

Also, I am on T8, ALL of our fights are in the 10 – 30 group range, out entire forces (from all 3 sides combined) I doubt breaks 80 people. So the problem you are talking about it really server directed. In that vein that would be like making a fuss that Jormag always overflows because you have too many people on your server that like to do Dragon events. or on the other side, making a fuss you can’t get temple armor because no one opens temples. It’s not a game mechanic that is the problem, so it’s not a game mechanic that will readily fix the problem. It’s a matter of player population and participation.

The answer to this, is find the demographic that works for you, T8 is very light on players, we never have queues, and 40 on any one side is astonishing, regardless of the claims that everyone is putting out 50 man zergs in T8, we seldom seen orange swords outside a major keep or tower battle.

Maybe we have what you really want from WvW, even if we are bottom tier. Some days, being in first place is not always considered the most enjoyable.

Seigfried.5938:

Firstly, if you don’t want to fight in/against zergs, play sPvP.

This, a Million times over.

World Vs World is about siege battles, large scale fights, the feeling of armies colliding, with death, destruction, and mayhem abound. In simple terms, WvW is a Servers War Zone.

I don’t see why anyone goes out there and complains about facing armies of people. If you want small scale, Anet went though a lot of effort to make a very distinctive and very involved “Small Scale” combat arena.

Shout out to HoD tonight. good fights, I noticed EC at cliffside as we had a tight and tense defending of it! Great battle! it was a nail biter!

ET has to deal with contending against powerful guilds like LK, Merc, and the Pugs that Join up with them to contribute to their overall force. LK is aggressive in capping and holding majors points on the map and the reality of WvW is that it is their efforts we notice, and it is their efforts that are putting HoD in first place, as such it is their efforts that concern us.

After facing off against LK, and realizing that they are a tenacious, relentless guild of players, that will not stop, they laugh at dying, and even after a total wipe they, undaunted, charge again until they win, nothing really compares to that, or pulls attention away from that kind of adversary, least of all, 5 maybe 6 people loitering around a single camp.

I just want to take a moment to give a shout out to the real power players on HoD, like LK, your tenacious efforts to cap objectives and take points have provided your dead weight something to brag about.

Havvik Nightseeker.3485:

although this hate on PAXA has gone way out of control, thank you for the compliment. we had a lot of fun in ET bl, you really sieged gari up tight :P took two pushes to take it.

LK also wanted to wish FC great fights in EB, we really had to focus on the HUGE zerg u guys brought to SM. keep it up :P also thanks for the tough fights in fc bl!

we hope to see you all in the field and good luck at reset night
Regards
Havvik

That second push was really a blindside move, well played. You were back at it before we even got the sweep done, and when you charged, I was the ranger that ran out and tried to root you all in place to buy some time at the inner door, yah, you tore me down something fast, but, I never expected to live, just buy time, but undaunted, you moved in and took our garrison!

Great game so far.

subcrazy.1098:

Still waiting for you to explain the reward difference from t1 – 1st place to t8 – 1st place etc..

Do they get more % at the same socre then t8 or something?

I would do that why? He said 1st was the same as 3rd, and I said that was not true. That was my only point, and it was explained already.

Otherwise , it does not concern me, if you want, you can look it up yourself. (yah I noticed the Guild tag, but I see no point in being rude)

Linkisdead.9647:

Ungood, you’re at it again. You implied needing money in GW2 was entirely PvE related, which is obviously incorrect for WvW.

My face is starting to hurt from how bad I cringe at your posts.

-rubs temples-

-Sigh-

Ok.. you win.. I give the hell up.

Linkisdead.9647:

Ungood, you’re at it again. You implied needing money in GW2 was entirely PvE related, which is obviously incorrect for WvW.

My face is starting to hurt from how bad I cringe at your posts.

Oh I see. You totally confused me, see I was talking about sPvP, not sure how WvW got into that, which is why I was wondering what the heck you were talking about.

sPvP has it’s own system in place, so it removes the grind and gets right to the fight which I thought would have been an incentive for people who just like to fight, to be honest.

Linkisdead.9647:

If you want to ever try a new build you’ll need armor/weapons/sigils/etc which cost what? That’s right…money! How is this escaping you? It’s like you purposely misinterpret things so you can start a new random discussion.

Ok. Not to be as rude as you have been, but, Have you ever, actually played sPvP?

I ask because you mention “money” and in sPvP, and, they provide you, Armor, Runes, and anything else you will need to fight, they even do a full leveling to 80th, so you don’t have to worry about up-scaling or missing abilities like in WvW.

All of it is Free of charge. Any weapon you want, any rune, any signal, amulets, all there for you. Provided free of charge. Even free trait respect as much as you like to try and test any build or style you want.

Linkisdead.9647:

Pretty sure the devs mentioned both large and small scale combat when they first introduced WvW. You’re confused. This forum is in the PVP section, isn’t it?

IMO the ones running around attacking doors and flipping camps/towers defended by no one in a race to get the higher imaginary number are the headless chickens.

And your comments about sPvP are incorrect. While you may get points for killing players, the team who holds the most points for the longest still wins 99% of the time. It’s still more pvpoint than pvp. PvP also has different class balancing, and virtually no reward for playing it while WvW you can at least make some money.

Excuse me.. just for my own enlightenment, but how would they hold the points if you are killing them?

Also, sPvP is self contained, it has it’s own system of rewards and wealth. So I assume that by “money” you mean PvE gold. I guess if that mattered to you, then it matters, but, if PvE was not your thing or not what you want to do with your game time, then the ‘money’ system it uses is also worthless, just like the reward system for sPvP is worthless to someone who enjoys PvE.

I would have thought that would be an incentive to enter sPvP, not a deal breaker that you would never have to worry about PvE farming while engaging in PvP combat.

Just saying.

Eh. Different styles of play I guess.

Aratoa.7398:

Wow, you are really bent out of shape over this aren’t you Ungood.

Not at all. It’s quite funny to me, to see people rant and explode over being wrong.

Look at Skarloc.2569, his rant post at me was pure comic gold. I mean, I never said it was a lot, only that it was not the same. I proved my point and he just goes off into a ranting fit. This whole topic is win, I bet if I kept it up, I could make him blow a vein with how wound up he comes across as.

But as I said. I’ve had enough of dealing with people who are tossing far more ego then their knowledge should entitle them to.

Ynot.8397:

subcrazy.1098:

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8.

Just a correction – This is not true.

You are correct, one team will be green the next week, and the other blue. Good observation. Forgot how much that color mattered.

No. You actually different rewards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in WvW.

Whoa but what’s the reward? I want to know.

The only rewards are during the match from getting points. You get things like increased gold per kill and what not. There is no other reward but pride for winning.

Exactly, and since it is impossible to take first without having the highest Ptt for the longest time. So you get more for holding 1st then you do for being 3rd.

Sorry, but at this point, I think I have endure all the abuse I care for by people who have far more ego then their knowledge of the game entitles them to, good day everyone.

Skarloc.2569:

Ungood.3054:

LOL.

Whatever you say. You just keep believing that. If that is what you need to do to flex your ego and not feel like a failure, then that is what you need to so. Some of us, like myself, and many people on ET and FC, know better.

Where is the ego flexing in my comment? You seem to fail at answering anything else directed your way, so I was hoping you could enlighten me with how you came to this conclusion.

Did you not read my post about [Agg]? really?

Skarloc.2569:

Ungood.3054:

Skarloc.2569:

We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8.

Just a correction – This is not true.

You are correct, one team will be green the next week, and the other blue. Good observation. Forgot how much that color mattered.

No. You actually different rewards for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place in WvW.

Linanthony.1809:

Ungood.3054:

Linanthony.1809:

Lolololo, I am thoroughly confused. I haven’t been on for a while now and have only been observing the forums. All I’m seeing is, “PAXA, you aren’t playing the game like its meant to be played” and “PAXA ganked me when I wasn’t looking and I’m here to share that try really kitten balls” or “I didn’t choose thug life, thug life chose me”

Eh? Is someone saying that?

I am saying that if you came to T8 to look for the best teams in WvW, you did it wrong.

Again with the criticizing…well if you come to the forums to criticize people, you did it wrong.

Sir. We are going to have to disagree, as coming to the forums seems to the precise thing to do when you want to criticize some one or some thing, I’ll cite your own post as a fine example of this when you blanket criticized every post here.

Linanthony.1809:

Lolololo, I am thoroughly confused. I haven’t been on for a while now and have only been observing the forums. All I’m seeing is, “PAXA, you aren’t playing the game like its meant to be played” and “PAXA ganked me when I wasn’t looking and I’m here to share that try really kitten balls” or “I didn’t choose thug life, thug life chose me”

Skarloc.2569:

We don’t care about the score, because Anet has a horrible reward system that offers the same thing for finishing 1st in tier 1 as you get for finishing 3rd in tier8.

Just a correction – This is not true.

Linanthony.1809:

Lolololo, I am thoroughly confused. I haven’t been on for a while now and have only been observing the forums. All I’m seeing is, “PAXA, you aren’t playing the game like its meant to be played” and “PAXA ganked me when I wasn’t looking and I’m here to share that try really kitten balls” or “I didn’t choose thug life, thug life chose me”

Eh? Is someone saying that?

I am saying that if you came to T8 to look for the best teams in WvW, you did it wrong.

LilMcGinley.3890:

1) sPvP is a point game, not a PvP game. It is like Headquarters in Call of Duty, you could go 0-0 and still win, it’s player vs point, not player vs player.

They revamped sPvP so that killing players awards points now, so you can in fact fight Meat grinder style for points and not even bother with holding objectives.

2) Guilds who want to fight roaming in small groups CAME to T8 because they could actually function without zerg-dodging every 10 minutes.

Laughable. We had [Agg] on ET, and they Transferred down for this reason, and then moved back up because T8 is too easy, on every level. Sorry, but this is a lame excuse. In fact [Agg] after a week here used to go Zerg Hunting just to challenge themselves. If there was any real desire for skills and challenge, T3 or T4 is where they would move to, if they could hack it.

While we had [Agg] on ET, however, they did exactly what PAXA did, but they used to take Keeps and Towers to incite a fight with SF. yah, SF, the guys that made you run and cry to mommy, they used to go hunt. So, they were better for us then PAXA is for HoD, but even then, [Agg] while they left on good terms, and I have nothing but respect for them,their leaving did not affect the balance of the game at all. 1 tower, 1 keep? for a few hours. What does PAXA give? A Camp? LOL.

Seriously, the truth is, like it or not, if they stopped playing for a week, no one would notice and the points would not change. So, Like, love them, or even ignore them, they don’t affect your WvW outcome or what tier you are on.

As for their forum bragging, well. to use another spots analogy, is like watching the gym class kids brag about their Kick Ball skillz. No matter how good they think they are, they are still just the bottom rung of the gaming ladder.

Cantur Soulfyre.5409:

Wait, wait. So folks complaining about getting ganked by “small group” 5v1 is ok. But their 5 man “small group” getting ganked by a server zerg is not ok?

LOL

Depends.. did the whole server wait outside a camp to just to jump the small group?

I mean, hey when SF kicked our kitten all over the place, they were there to take points and play the game as it was meant to played. You were all like “hey nice Garrison, that’s 20 pt, soooooooo… how many of you do we need to kill to take it” and then you would go about finding out.. on a bad day.. it was PvD, on a good day.. you killed us all.

subcrazy.1098:

Ungood.3054:

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Ungood.3054:

obastable.5231:

FC & ET guys insult their own small man teams when they insult PAXA. there are teams on all 3 of our servers that are very capable of doing these things with 5 or less players, and that go out and do it nearly every day.

i don’t understand why people put PAXA down.

i really don’t.

Allow me to explain.

While other teams move about the maps, they are moving from Objective to Objective , IE: Looking to claim or defend Camps, Keeps, Towers, to win or secure points for their side and thus ensure Victory for their server. Fighting and engaging players other players is a secondary concern, or a course hazard if you will.

If these groups overrun or kill a single player, it was a case of wrong place, wrong time for that player, and I’ll admit, I have felt bad about steamrolling some player as they come out of a camp while we are moving towards it to claim it, but none the less, the player was in our path, and thus they were killed. But in the end of things, that was not the groups intent to gank that player, that was not why they went out to fight that day, or why they play WvW. Their goal is to claim points for their side via objective holding and capping.

Then, you have PAXA that goes out just looking to gank players.

We had a guild here on ET, called Agg, (They transferred down to T8) they were a 10 – 15 man guild that would Zerg Hunt, they did what Paxa tries to do. They would go out with their small group and fight zergs 4 to 5 times their size, and win. Now Agg moved up to where they belong again, because T8 was not really a challenge for them, so, if PAXA thinks they are anywhere near efficient of even good because they can gank players on T8.. Ummm.. well..

Spend 10 minutes in PAXA vent. They aren’t out there to “Gank players” They are out there to find other small groups and have competitive fights.

If that was the case they would sPvP, not WvW. Unless they could not handle sPvP. There is always that.

If spvp wasn’t kitten we would consider it.

that sounds like code for “You get your kitten kicked all the time”?

Jscull.2514:

Ungood.3054:

Runamok.9638:

I play WvW. If I wanted to PvP I would go play in that sandbox. This is large scale war fare, World vs. World with objectives and strategy. I don’t go take troops to go kill stragglers. I try to stop them from doing it, not that many of them bother to listen. It’s a waste of resources and takes away from our goal at hand. Don’t get me wrong, I am all about the fights. I fight with with an actual purpose in mind. Not to just jack some random kid for lunch money because he happened to be in my way. I don’t play this game like a punk kitten.

Personally, I laugh my butt off when I read about people want 5 man groups. or small man groups, but don’t sPvP, they go to wvw. I mean really, Anet builds an entire system just for small group battles and people run off to WvW wanting small group battles? What the? Seriously, like What the?

I mean if they were talking “small group battles” to mean 20 vs 20, like they do on the upper tiers, then I could see where they are coming from, guilds like Agg, and VK, now moved up to where they belong, were “small group” but, they were still in the 10 – 15 range for a “small group” which is way too large for sPvP, but when you see people go Oh we do 5 man small groups" for WvW you have got to question why, and the only real answer you can come up with, is their small group can’t really handle other small groups like sPvP teams that do the same thing. So they go to WvW to kill the random soloer and feel all mighty about themselves. And we are supposed to do anything more then laugh and sigh at this kind of antic.

Meh, anyway, no big either way, They need to camp a soloer because that is all they can handle, then that is.. what is.

Clearly you have ZERO idea where we are coming from. That’s ok, its a 100 step ladder and you are around rung 5 in the “tiering” of pvp skill.

Edit: So I don’t just come off as a “hater” I will reiterate something for you, PAXA actually enjoys FIGHTING good to better players than ourselves. We challenge ourselves against large numbers, but have more fun fighting small groups of equal or better personal skill. We have no interest in PPPTTTT or whatever you guys call it. We picked up GW2 because it’s the closest open world platform to DAOC in 5-7 years. We are here to compete daily, not socialze, PPPTTT, or “gank solos” lol.

I love reading smack talk by T8 players as they try to sound good, to use a sports analogy, it’s like watching people brag about their badminton skills, I can’t bring myself to be impressed no matter how hard I try.

HatasGunnaHate.3627:

Ungood.3054:

obastable.5231:

FC & ET guys insult their own small man teams when they insult PAXA. there are teams on all 3 of our servers that are very capable of doing these things with 5 or less players, and that go out and do it nearly every day.

i don’t understand why people put PAXA down.

i really don’t.

Allow me to explain.

While other teams move about the maps, they are moving from Objective to Objective , IE: Looking to claim or defend Camps, Keeps, Towers, to win or secure points for their side and thus ensure Victory for their server. Fighting and engaging players other players is a secondary concern, or a course hazard if you will.

If these groups overrun or kill a single player, it was a case of wrong place, wrong time for that player, and I’ll admit, I have felt bad about steamrolling some player as they come out of a camp while we are moving towards it to claim it, but none the less, the player was in our path, and thus they were killed. But in the end of things, that was not the groups intent to gank that player, that was not why they went out to fight that day, or why they play WvW. Their goal is to claim points for their side via objective holding and capping.

Then, you have PAXA that goes out just looking to gank players.

We had a guild here on ET, called Agg, (They transferred down to T8) they were a 10 – 15 man guild that would Zerg Hunt, they did what Paxa tries to do. They would go out with their small group and fight zergs 4 to 5 times their size, and win. Now Agg moved up to where they belong again, because T8 was not really a challenge for them, so, if PAXA thinks they are anywhere near efficient of even good because they can gank players on T8.. Ummm.. well..

Spend 10 minutes in PAXA vent. They aren’t out there to “Gank players” They are out there to find other small groups and have competitive fights.

If that was the case they would sPvP, not WvW. Unless they could not handle sPvP. There is always that.

obastable.5231:

FC & ET guys insult their own small man teams when they insult PAXA. there are teams on all 3 of our servers that are very capable of doing these things with 5 or less players, and that go out and do it nearly every day.

i don’t understand why people put PAXA down.

i really don’t.

Allow me to explain.

While other teams move about the maps, they are moving from Objective to Objective , IE: Looking to claim or defend Camps, Keeps, Towers, to win or secure points for their side and thus ensure Victory for their server. Fighting and engaging players other players is a secondary concern, or a course hazard if you will.

If these groups overrun or kill a single player, it was a case of wrong place, wrong time for that player, and I’ll admit, I have felt bad about steamrolling some player as they come out of a camp while we are moving towards it to claim it, but none the less, the player was in our path, and thus they were killed. But in the end of things, that was not the groups intent to gank that player, that was not why they went out to fight that day, or why they play WvW. Their goal is to claim points for their side via objective holding and capping.

Then, you have PAXA that goes out just looking to gank players.

We had a guild here on ET, called Agg, (They transferred down to T8) they were a 10 – 15 man guild that would Zerg Hunt, they did what Paxa tries to do. They would go out with their small group and fight zergs 4 to 5 times their size, and win. Now Agg moved up to where they belong again, because T8 was not really a challenge for them, so, if PAXA thinks they are anywhere near efficient of even good because they can gank players on T8.. Ummm.. well..

Hematuria.4051:

getting booted to T8 and then bragging is like tatas on a bull.

I think this sums it up quite nicely.