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Gem store update?35+Armor suit?30+glider,36+Black lion weapon
in-game skin update: 4 Armor skin, 0 glider, 5 Weapon skin .(1 year)
Legendary weapon= farme for 2 months=Buy gold (10min)
Gem store update More(in-game skin update less?=?Lose more players=>Anet get less money
IF:in-game skin update more ?Gem store update less?=>more players=>Anet get more money=>in-game skin update more fast(Gem store update more)=>Anet get more and more money
Token: good game player as long as the completion of a fixed number, you can get the props. The downside, designers may spend a few weeks to design a props, and players can only take a few hours to get, then nothing to do. The game lost the random fun. My girlfriend just joined the WOW last week, the first CD to get the stars Loong Mount .And then she said, I don’t want to play GW2 anymore, GW2 will not fall.
It is said that before the GW2 entered the Chinese market, WOW China operator NetEase (NASDAQ: NTES) to modify the GW2 business model, NetEase that time charge can guarantee GW2’s success in China. NetEase is Chinese second game operators, is also the most respected American game operators. Now it seems, GW2’s business model is bound to GW2 will be a complete failure in China.
How to save GW2’s Chinese market? 1 must balance the “in-gameSkin” and “store gems”, both of which must be updated with the same quality and speed.
2 the material sources of the legendary props need a lot of increase, so that players can get more easily through the game content, rather than gold coins.Don’t always want to let players buy Precious Stones for gold coins.
If the above two do not, time billing is a choice (per minute billing or monthly).
3 Appropriate to increase the drop some very attractive props. Falls and tokens need to cooperate with each other
4 update China’s regional operators, KZW is very bad.
With this post, I also want to delete GW2 from the computer, because it can bring me pain far more than happy. Farewell, GW2.
First of all, talk about the differences of Chinese and American players, Chinese players almost only play PC games and mobile games.
There are many kinds of Chinese players:
1: the nouveau riche has much money, no time.
2, working class: a stable economic income, a small amount of time
3, college students: a small amount of income, a lot of time
I belong to the second category, there are about 1 to 3 hours a day can play PC games. I have played PC Games: wars3, SC1, SC2,CS, wow, DDO, DOTA, lol, GW1, GW2, Lord, Of The Rings OL.
I am almost a typical young Chinese who only play American Games.
MMORPG games on the U.S. market is very little, so GW2 is very weak in the face of the market competition. But in China, there are hundreds of MMORPG games in the fight for the user. The most successful is DNF, WOW, XJ3 (Chinese version of wow), but also the most popular game on the Chinese market, ranking 10, there are 5 models are MMOPRG?
On the Chinese market, GW2’s biggest competitor is WOW, which I believe is the same as in the US market. WOW has been successful in China for 10 years, and now there are still about 2 million players. GW2 has been operating in China for 2 years, with sales of 3 million 500 thousand (2014), and now there are only less than 20 thousand players.
I will analyze why GW2 will fail in China: Business model: China’s server business model and the same as the United States, CDK+ gems store + Gold Exchange
The price of CDK in China is about $13, which is not an obstacle.
The core of the problem is the gold exchange, GW2 legendary props and pink shoulder is to keep the players to stay in the GW2 important props, the way to get legendary weapons two,
1 make it yourself, but all of the material you need about 2 months, like a farmer to keep repeating the game. Of course there are shortcuts, that is, the gold exchange.
I have to admit, I have made 7 legendary weapons, all to the gold merchants to buy gold coins, otherwise I will become a farmer.
2 directly to the gold coin dealer to buy legendary weapons.
About 60% of the players left the GW2 after the completion of the first legendary weapon. Remember the 3 types of Chinese players that I began to speak about?
1 will buy a legendary weapon nouveau riche. When buying all the legendary weapon after leaving the game. 2 working people will buy gold, make legendary weapons, or buy legendary weapons, and leave the game as part of a legendary weapon. 3 college students will leave the game. That is to say, all the groups in the GW2 can not find the game fun, all groups will leave GW2.
Legend props design is around the gold exchange system design, that is, you have to make the legendary props, you must exchange gold coins. But the situation is that the Chinese server, the players directly to the gold merchants to buy a penny to buy.KZW are not to earn. Players will be tired of the legendary props, and then leave. This is the bad consequences of the gold exchange system.
Since the legendary props to make the player feel sick, then from the game to collect other skin. In-game Skin: the update speed is very slow, very slow, over the past year, the past two years. The number of updates can be counted on his fingers. Ugly, ugly cry, nothing new, no sincerity. Store gems + black lion weapon: every month will be updated every month,
Every time the player will want to know what the in-game Skin update. The results found that each update is gems store + black lion weapons
players will think: why I want to play GW2 without any in-gameSkin updates?
Well, there’s no subscription, so they had to do something to make money.
Love it or hate it, it’s always been this way and I seriously doubt it’s ever going to change.
Lol is based on the number of players to make money, and gw2 in the gem store update (skin in-game does not update) will only reduce the number of players, the result is that the gem stores will make gw2 more difficult to make money.
Time charge or VIP charge is a better choice. (turn off the gem store)
Flames Rising on the line, but I am very disappointed with the new PVE. For LW players, all the beautiful skin is in the gem store, while the new map does not have any power to play.
RPG game is the player to wait 2 months after playing for two hours, and then off the assembly line.
MMOPRG core is to maintain a high number of players online,
GW2 is a MMOPRG game!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!not PRG, not MOBA!
If every LW update is a gem store update, then ask a question, why do I want to play guild wars? Why do I want to keep online?
ANET, you should completely shut down the gem shops and gold exchange system, so that all the updates are IN-GAME SIKN .
Time charge or VIP charge is a better choice. (turn off the gem store)
Free can not save GW2,The gem store update will only allow the number of GW2 players less, make ANET more poor.
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As has been stated in many/most of your threads, the Marketing Teams for the NA/EU client and the Chinese client are different. You would likely do better to post marketing ideas on the Chinese forums, as indicated in the Knowledge Base (accessed via the ‘Support’ link above/below).
Good luck.
I am a paying customer of the American server, and I have the right to send my thoughts to here.
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http://www.bilibili.com/video/av5657311/?zw
http://zt.jx3.xoyo.com/zt/2016/08/04/jx3qixi/index.html
Above I share a two link, is China the largest number of users of MMOPRG game, JX3OL (China Version of wow), the game play and wow not much difference, just add the gem store.
ANET’s marketing department really should learn how to operate store gem.
This is a Valentine’s Day promotional activities, the sale of items including the effects of clothing, special effects scenes, special effects figure action, special effects hair, pets, hang. Such a set of price is about $100.
Such sales activities to sell very successful.
Although there is such a promotional activities, but gem store&in-game skins JX3OL balance do better, almost every month will launch a large number of skins in-game.
The problem is you’re suggesting these things on the English forums. As I understand it, the ANet devs in Seattle don’t have a lot of control over how things are done on the Chinese servers. The gem store isn’t even the same sort of thing, the Chinese version has a lot of pay to win items not available (hopefully never available) on the NA/EU version.
My response above to you was based on how your suggestions would apply to and not help NA/EU. You probably want to put your suggestions in the Chinese forums, assuming there are Chinese forums that devs read.
As far as I know, in addition to ANET’s business situation is not very optimistic, although in the HOT after a slight improvement. In the United States, the number of WOW users is several times the number of GW2. The situation in China is the same.
The 7.0 version is WOW next month, has learned GW2 80% ,But GW2 does not absorb the advantages of WOW. It’s hard to say that GW2 will not lose more players.
My advice is to help GW2 to add more users around the world, which is still a big advantage for us / European servers.
SAB: They cannot bring it to us more often than once a year, but have promised to do it that often. It breaks with every patch, they can’t maintain it except during its special time.
Colors of skins: Use dyes?
Legendary Armor won’t come from the gem store. It will be very hard to make and at least in precursor form isn’t even all that great looking per many opinions expressed in these forums. Surely people will still buy gem store items. How could it possibly destroy the gem store?
Balancing gem store and in-game skins: Yes, this would be nice. Right now it doesn’t seem Marketing will let them do that.
No Outfits: outfits have their uses and while more armor sets would be nice, and more casual about-town clothing outfits would be grand, I wouldn’t want to see outfits eliminated completely.
Putting major story events behind a RAID goes against the ease-of-play philosophy of this game. Raids were put in to attract the smaller amount of players that wanted a heavier challenge. They should not gate story access. See the tremendously long thread(s) from players vociferously railing against having the LS3 intro in the raid wings.
Skin acquisition: What do you find bad about the methods? Which methods? Crafting, buying, collecting? Also what is a cold light skin?
Dungeons: Since every player gets equal loot chances in a run, they can’t hand out so many “interesting” items. Also what you find interesting someone else may find boring. You can get precursors, very rarely, I saw it happen once (ONCE) off a trash spider in AC. I like the tokens. They mean that I know I can get a skin I want in a certain number of runs. No running a path 100 times and never seeing the Awesomesauce Weapon of Delight drop.
My English is not very good, I can only read part of it.
In the Chinese market, there are a lot of players cannot find an MMOPRG game to play appropriate long-term stability , WOW too old, GW2 should replace the position of WOW,but GW2 is too boring, boring is the root of the game content is not updated, the in – game skins don’t update.
WOW players have 5777626 in China.
GW2 sold more than 3 million 800 thousand copies in China in the first two months.You can see how much Chinese players expect GW2.But last month, the data released by KZW, GW2 players only 9000.
The gem store is a Chinese invention, the system in China, the game tends to be negative. Balancing the gem store and the in – game skins, is more successful approach on the Chinese market, the gem store update, the in – game update another skins. So far, the gem store are ruining the GW2, at least in China.
Legendary armor would ruin the gem store, like the legendary weapons destroyed the black lion weapons.. the lion weapons only very few new players will like, when they have the first legendary weapons, Them won’t buy any lion weapons… A new lion weapons only sell 20 gold COINS in Chinese server .
If the black lion weapon is obtained through the game content, the result will be different, the player will have a lot of things to do.
SAB did not open in 2016, opened in 2015, if an interesting game content needs 2 years to open once, so the game designers in China will be expelled ten thousand times.
A cold light skin, from ilver wilderness.?Finish LW2 achievements.I’m not sure it’s in English.
I really think that GW2’s art is world class, but GW2’s marketing department is really bad. As an American game, learn the Chinese people through store gem to make money, just want to earn more money. Instead, let the game lose more players, resulting in GW2 earn less money. They really should come to China to learn what is store gem, what is the gem exchange gold coins.
Why China’s game companies so rich, you can easily buy ROIT GAME , just because the Chinese are very flexible, good at inventing new business rules, will not be achieved by the rules of the shackles. Chinese game companies earn money not from the underground oil, but from the Chinese people’s business wisdom.
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1, increase a lot of pink, orange skin , get through the game. Skin is the GW2 play the biggest power. (if only update the Gem Store Items, not updating the game Items, players will be less and less)
2, the Gem Store each update a skin, game need update the another skin.
3, Bioluminescence armor skin and SAB skin acquisition mode is interesting, other skin acquisition mode is very bad.
4, SAB can open a week, every month or every weekend.
5 ,SAB can drop three colors hang gliding, the probability of 5%, at the same time can also through the mall to buy.
6, increase the SAB style armor skin, add more specific Items, such as using a particular Item, there will be a group of small bee dog behind them.
7, the legendary armor is not a good idea, will destroy the Gem Store.
8, need 15-30 PVP map
9, raid is too difficult, need fixed team to cooperate for a long time like WOW, this is not so good, need different difficulty of two modes.. Reward is also very bad.
10, the Gem Store selling suits cannot be self collocation, everyone was wearing the same suit. I will never buy any outfit.
11, each dragon puzzling died, it was not a bit like terrible ultimate BOSS, need to design into a RAID.
12, dungeons, and the BOSS really need to increase the interesting Items.
13, drop Items will increase the fun of the game, and tokens, dull. “Tokens” should be “drop” a supplement.
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I come from China, please forgive my English is not good.
First of all I say is GW2 did very bad in China, the main reason is that new props skin update too slow.
I see today’s update with new maps of PVE, new PVP map, a new layer. But I am very disappointed. In addition to the gem store update, no new PVE skin, without a new PVP mode, no new PVP skin, without a new layer of the skin.
GW2 really need more orange, pink skin quality, more PVP battle of 10 ~ 30.
GW2 there needs to be a skin gems mall, game content is updated one.
GW2 operating in China for two years, first year 10 months is not updated, the second year of 8 months is not updated. If still not improve for a long time, it is hard to imagine a Chinese company will have dared after operation ANET game…
I want to say about skin update, take an example:
If let me to design a dungeon about chuck worm
3 x3 boss
5 or 10 players
Normal and heroic difficulty
2 sets of arms skin, like WVW hero weapons, corresponding to the two difficult
Each set of weapons have 2 to 3 different color effects.
Armor skin and special effects Like cold light armor, through to the achievements and heroic mode
Weapons can drop probability can’t too low.
A collection of wires, through the collection of complete can obtain a modelling, three different styles of gliding.
Several drop rare drop 5% probability of potions, for example after eating the potion, players will be chuck worm cub after only 5. Or let a player is chuck worm cubs.
Gem shop sells underground auxiliary agents at the same time, similar style weapon skin, hang gliding, or part of it.
Such a complete updated once dungeon about 3 months.
This design will take up a lot of resources of fine arts,, but looks more like a full update team. At the same time can be stable players online rate.
Remember! No attributes.
Legendary items will make hard graphic design other props rubbish, the design of the skin should be a number of rich, let players free collocation.
The latest news, on ChinaJoy2016 KZW have completely delete the GW2 all relevant information, LOGO. In the KZW management players BBS, KZW management has been revoked. KZW GW2 live video web site to be deleted..
Yes, like I said before, gem exchange gold system + Legendary items, game seldom update new skin at the same time. Can let ANET to earn money, make Chinese players feel too grind, will reduce the amount of players online, increase the income of gold traders, let KZW is hard to make money.
Some important supplement and response:
European and American game is still very popular in China, respectively is OW, LOL, WOW, DOTA2.
In China is one of the most popular MMORPG JianWang3 DNF, WOW.
Chinese young people like the European and American values
Face the Chinese young people like South Korea, also like to Europe and the United States face (do you know how many Chinese because Leonardo DiCaprio won an Oscar statuette and feel happy?) . Guild wars 2 character design is very beautiful, but too little. A MMORPG game in China, at least one race must have hundreds of styles, and then sold separately. Permanent release tool let ANET can not make money, a fool can design such props.
A swimsuit? China’s law stipulates the game can’t bare too much, and like a swimsuit will not to play games in Europe and America.
East plays specifically to grind? Because the GW2 players, as a result of the legendary weapons need to grind lost more than 50%.
Legendary items:
The first month in China, the guild wars 2 has sold more than 1 million, most of the players in the first left after the legendary weapon.
Chinese players were willing to buy, also don’t want to make your own legendary items. They just need to spend very few money can buy neat all the legendary weapon in the guild wars 2, and found that guild wars 2 is not update any new items, then AFK.
I made three legendary weapon, whenever I make a pair of, I found that I have wasted 3 months time in repeated the same boring things, in the following a month all don’t want to online.
Legendary items will make graphic design new props completely sold out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
China’s college students have a lot of free time, in addition to playing games, nothing else can replace.
WOW battle mode for me is very boring, GW2 battle mode better.
A copy of the WOW team need to consume a lot of time. Guild wars 2 10 humanism.
I like to do interesting things in a short period of time, to get interesting.
I hate game currency. Game currency to make the game into a boring repetitive. Remember 10000 bottles of wine? Disgusting.
ANET’s design is lack of a sense of humor, sometimes too realistic and the lack of fun.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Suit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I super hate suit, also won’t buy any suit, nobody wants to wear the same clothes with others.
I like your collection of separate armor skin, mashups, and dyeing. Guild wars 2 dyeing is great.
Temporary wrote here, finally, if a MMOPG game to succeed in China, you need to make a female players love this game, game of the Chinese population is large enough, the female players also more beyond your imagination.
Guild wars 2 game update is very slow (this update speed in Chinese eyes looked like: Chinese people work eight hours a day, ANET only work 2 hours)
Game 4 years almost no prop update (in my eyes), I expected the expansion is in the game update more than 30 sets of armor skin, only 3 sets of results.
Single game content, PVP mode is too little, I like GW1 12 people in the team.
WVW is boring, just follow the commander in run, Chinese players don’t want to listen to command others, more like yourself better (I think is a special historical reasons, China’s education is at an early age education need to obey the command, is actually against a particular system) in China. WOW there are lots of different number of battlefield, although not enough balance, but it’s fun.
Desert WVW battlefield, the map is too big, I always think ANET map design is mad, and not your own fun to play games.
I think the PVP need three to five kinds of patterns, a pattern balance is enough (for reference only). Need a lot of number 15 to 30 people, small map of the battlefield (battlefield more fun than WVW.).
Ten people need a copy of the difficulty, let ordinary players can participate in, rather than a fixed time fixed team, this became the WOW players least favorite part. Chinese players had grown WOW a copy of the high strength.
The legendary armor? Really want to have a legendary armor? This would allow the guild wars 2 mall selling not to drop any armor skin. And the long game process itself is very sick.
ANET poor KZW selection operators in China, the company is a game of word of mouth is very bad company, selling a large number of game props, ruining their BBS. Is so poor. In a turn. WOW in China choose the game operating company is the best of the mouth of a company.
In addition, I think a lot of problems exist in the guild wars 2,
First is the economy system, the main source of income is guild wars 2: gems for 1 gold, 2 game mall, 3 treasure chest
The three systems is the Chinese first used in the game.
We say 1, gem for gold, used in guild wars 2 gold you can buy almost all props, have the gold to any props are easy to make.
Get through the game in guild wars 2 is the best reward to legendary items, and legendary items need a lot of material, and the source of the material has no fixed.
1 so offline gold trading became very much. The server can kill any offline deal, but in China, it’s almost can’t do that, you kill any players to buy gold, means that you will lose him/her and his/her friends.
Although KZW buy gold line has been set up your own website, but KZW are hard to get stable income by operating guild wars 2.
2 any props need a large amount of material, the players were forced to need a lot of time doing repetitive things, especially in the Chinese server 2 months after operation, a large number of players won their first put the legendary weapon, at the same time feel very tired, so China server lost about 50% or more of the players.
I need to explain the above phenomenon, the European and American players think that Chinese players are gold farmers, repeated game don’t get material is China like? In fact, wrong, wrong is very severe.
Chinese players have very many different groups, gold merchants is only a handful of people very little. Games in China gives the impression of Europe and the United States are attribute balance, fair and free game, would like to play in Europe and the people is the players agree with the European and American values, but the guild wars 2 needs a large number of events to get the material, let the game became farmers. This in itself let gamers feel nauseous.
“Jian Wang3” mall price is three times as many guild wars 2. The number of active between about 1.5 million and 1.5 million (already get rid of double account and gold merchant). Guild wars 2 the currently active number is 8000 less than in China, which also contains a large number of gold COINS businessman.
Add that “Jian Wang3” in a fun activities: "players can kill the game designers, less chance to get a ride: four beautiful girl carried a sedan chair or four old woman carried a wedding sedan. After a deal in playing house prices have reached $540.
Almost everything we use in “Jian Wang3” WOW game mode, in addition to flight. There is a similar to glide mode, is the Chinese qigong, so the game players will still often occur in the wild PVP, there are three different camps in the game, the good, the bad and the neutral. Neutral players can from being killed.
1why is being “Jian Wang3” more popular than WOW?
“Jian Wang, 3” game mode and WOW almost the same, in addition to the role of appearance, bred the role is a Chinese.
WOW characters too ugly.
Guild wars 2 character than “Jian Wang,” beautiful hundreds. Players like Asia face, also like the European face at the same time, as long as they are enough beautiful and handsome.
“Jian Wang 3” there is a lot of women players, the game was almost a online dating platform.
“Jian Wang 3” in the game content updates at the same time, has a large fashion design team, costumes for a lot of game design.
According to my simple:
by the game itself has 132 sets of clothing as a whole.
More than 1000 kinds of back, waist props of the skin
Each weapon has hundreds of skin, there are 12 kinds of weapons.
Game mall is about 132 sets of clothing as a whole.
Mount mainly stores to sell. Pet mainly games.
By comparison,
Guild wars 2, the new content in 4 years,
Mall: 32 + weapons, 35 + suit, 23 sets of gliding
The game itself: 19 sets of weapons, the legendary weapon 4, legendary back 2 pieces, pink 2 shoulders.6 armor skin.
“Jian Wang3” prop update speed is almost 5 to 10 times the GW2?Especially on the comparison of armor skin, “Jian Wang3” has 132 sets of the game can get skin (some only color difference), only six sets of guild wars 2.
I am a Chinese players?I often post on reddit, illustrate the Chinese server.
My English is not good enough, so can only use translator, I’m sorry.
Some people say that China and the European and American players, thought that Chinese players always likes to use money to promote role, and then to beat his opponent. Like equipment to strengthen and so on.
WOW, actually DOTA2, OW, LOL, the four game proved that this kind of view is wrong.
The Chinese mathematical ability is very strong, so on the reaction is very good, this is LOL, DOTA2, OW popularity in China?But do not represent MMOPRG game is not popular in China.China’s Internet population is double that of the United States, half of the population are game players, so different types of games in China will have a lot of gamers.
In China’s top 10 games there are five MMOPRG game, one of the most successful model called “Jian Wang, 3”, the game is almost identical, and WOW just turned into a Chinese ancient costume. It absorbed 30% WOW players, at the same time a large number of GW2 players come from “Jian Wang3”, so I want to use the game to explain why guild wars 2 is not welcome.
How many times did you run this through google translate?
Should I speak Chinese?
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1, I found the New Legendary Backpacks, PVP Legendary Backpacks, New Mists skin, is the color of gold, really good ugly ugly. I really hate gold, especially like explosion door.
Whether can increase the choice of the color? Like WOW new legendary weapon, has a different form of color can choose, or a different material? The tremendous amount of items that can greatly improve the gain.
2, PvP Leagues! We have been waiting for very long, this is what we need. But the RANK queue mechanism still needs to be modified, not every player wants to be a professional player, SOLO RANK and TEAM RANK must be separated. Otherwise a lot of players will still choose LOL, rather than the GW2. OH, don’t forget, OVERWATCH immediately is about to open.
Like yesterday, I finished watching the cologne game, back in GW2 start a plate of PVP, but I don’t have any teammates in GW2, my opponent is a TEAM, the score soon became 50:400, I went to play LOL directly off the game, and then win the 5 set. I just want to play games, not into professional players.
3, need to increase the new mechanism between the blood and burning, let these two symptoms. Fold the bleeding is very difficult, high damage without burning. All chose the combustion, abandoned the bleeding.
Chilled need stack, otherwise the necromancer’s new feature point is useless
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1?What’s the difference between burning and bleeding
2?Why chilled can not stack?
In particular the necromancer, chilled can cause harm, but does not stack? The necromancer almost no chance
I saw the Mist through the new message broken skin layer of gold,,,, I feel really good ugly, ugly, like upstarts.
Can design multiple material version? Such as gold, platinum, diamond, or the power of the unknown. So get reward by fog broken layers are more abundant.. Although I don’t like gold, maybe someone will like it..
In addition, the enormous success of “Lol” and “QQ” has a lot to do, before buy Riot “QQ” equity, Riot is just a small company, and “QQ” is the most powerful game company in China, a year’s income is equivalent to the sum of all the other Chinese gaming companies, his club’s game Lol, Cf, DnF firmly occupy the market first 3. But the company is also very outrageous, like modify game content. Ok LoL not modified, and almost the same as the server, and server stability.
It is said that at the time of negotiation agent Gw2, China’s strongest two game companies “QQ” and “163” and Anet held talks, “QQ” agent LoL, and bought the Riot lots of shares. “163” agent all blizzard games.
But both companies say GW2 problem exists, to enter the Chinese market to be profitable, so put forward two different modification scheme of the game. Anet is said to have refused to modify the game failed to successful cooperation.
Modify the plan proposed by the “163” is said to be in time to collect fees, is actually a disguised increase viscous game, compare the situation in China.
I personally think that “163” is more conscience and conforms to the concept of European and American companies in China, although blizzard storm hero and starcraft ii performance in China is not very good, but the “163” still spent a lot of work. Recently began to cooperate with alibaba, so that the company can stable environment brings to the game.
And Kdw is fear.
I am very worried about the problem now is that whether KDW will operate GW2, according to a friend’s message, GW2 operations team has dissolved in China, on the newly opened Chinajoy, GW2 booth no ads, no LOGO, no boot, only six computer in there, poor and unstable network.
This paragraph of time the domestic players are some of the domestic GW2pvp masters, doing some teaching activities, but know, any folk activities in China is useless. (due to political system caused by the concept of impact)
In China recently issued many new games in a row, while production levels are not as GW2 is good, but there are more rich content, especially PVP siege warfare and the wild field. Many of the GW2 WVW guild has shifted to other games.
ANET really need more work faster, at the end of the year there will be a blizzard OVERWATCH, blizzard than KDW is very good choice of agents, and stability. It will take a lot of people. Another RIOT has confirmed the presence of a new game, as I guess there many years ago LOL. RIOT of the new game would be popular in the whole of China, GW2 exist a lot of competitors.
KDW is the most terrible, the company is a third-rate bad company, he is the greatest uncertainty.
I think the OP is saying that other game presenters at some convention in China have huge booths but GW2 is in a sad little huddle off to the side and not doing enough to get publicity for the game.
While that doesn’t bother me one way or the other, I take heart from such posts because they show how global we have become. When I was a kid the idea of reading casual comments from Chinese people (however poorly translated), posted and read across the globe in moments? That was pure science fiction. So I have a sense of wonder moment here.
Yes, and a network, it is easy to know what happened. All over the world. A magical s…
Then again, I’m very worried about whether KDW don’t want to run the GW2, GW2 can survive long in China, most players are late skeptical.
If the GW2 shut down the server in China, then we ID in China can be transferred to the European and American server? Or Taiwan server also is pretty good.
China’s largest exhibition opened in Chinajoy game, know that KDW do to guild wars 2?
, according to a report, please friends in KDW exhibition area, the largest screen tanks to the world, even a mobile phone game has a lot of posters and display area.
And GW2, no LOGO, no lead, no posters, network is very poor, poor 6 PCS in one corner.
It is HOT in Chinajoy propaganda.
I want to ask when can make PVP ranking mechanism in the singles and team game
Many years ago I spend an hour every day to play guild wars 1 PVP, because singles is fair, but now the old guild wars 2 singles will encounter a team player, though I know it is beneficial to improve the team consciousness, but no matter how good players team consciousness, single person is very difficult to beat a team player.
Because of this mechanism, all of my friends are leaving the PVP, sometimes home wanted to happy to play with a plate of PVP, the result is that five people across the group, I can only leave the game, and then to play LOL.
LOL very fair, that’s why LOL will success around the world
Another new map, similar to the MOAB I’m not very interested in, if you want to play this model, I’d rather play LOL. Guild wars, there are many good PVP mode and system, but the guild wars 2 is disappointing.
PVP paragraph a meaningless, the small white rabbit can still run into small dragon, it is very unfair for new players.
PVP players without a sense of honor, please add a similar Chinese server title icon in the system for players to show their grade.
PVP fast change, otherwise I can only go with friends to play LOL. Because of your good system, all of them are left.
Did you again removed you post history ?
Coomon man …..Lets do a recap of your History :
1) GW2 wont open SAB , because the Chinese market sell those skins for MONEY
2) GW2 Chinese server have 50.000 players only
(how do they make money them , rathers that releasing worldwide for more ?)
(alberte.2685 : They are seeeling them for 55 dolars ………… but sill they will get 3 million dollars that way ….. while worldwide they would get 23 millions3) Help us brothers they are Banning ppl using WTFast (which help hacking)
4) I am Taiwan but i know the Chinese ppl , and they are leaving cause they dont have anything to do AND THAT THEY GET -20% LESS EXP COMPARED TO THE EU-US GW2
5) ‘’Plz help us brothers (ta the launch) they are releasing a SUB mode in the Chinese servers ’’ (and IF ou pay real money to pay for a whole year , you would get an Legendary at the end of it)
But now , rather than payin 180 dollars subs (or i dont know how much it is) with real money , you can instead to buy from the gold>gem conversionPlz go on , i might write a book for your history in the end :P
Yes, of course I remember, it is ANET not only as a cause of all this… Now say what all useless, GW2 has completely failed in China.
Do you not realize that ANet can’t do anything? They are the junior partner in this relationship with that company. KDW runs it. They make the rules, not Anet
You don’t realize that KDW just operators, can increase the contents of the game and play. Operating in China guild wars 2 will only severe losses. But still ANET message slowly, and then rest for a week, and send a message, and then constantly delay time, KDW will only be at a loss.
KDW today on the web site started selling legendary weapon, now China’s players have been thoroughly anger, a large number of players gathered in the lion city, put all the props can consume consume, filled with fire, and then threw their equipment into the toilet, delete the role, delete the game.
You think the problem is out in KDW’s behavior?
Once China has operator through the world of warcraft has achieved great success, is in the interests of the operators, who is from the heart not willing to run the game.
ANET actually do not care about the lives of operators, a game in a year time, only updated 2 map, has been the introduction of the mall, this itself is an insult to players. Players not playable content, nature will leave. Players cannot leave natural operators to maintain the normal operation of the game.
Whenever KDW operators to seek help from ANET, ANET would say, the Chinese people to shut up.
Yes, it seems the GW2 soon will leave the Chinese market, the Chinese said to ANET, GW2 in China had been a complete failure. And the world of warcraft and LOL a brilliant success.
If HOT sell 50D and no gems store any more.
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Play games if skills to win, so look at PVP and WVW, PVP queuing mechanism is still not bad, I love to play more interesting LOL.WVW is kept running, and knocked at the door.Don’t feel any fun.On the other hand mall has never stopped.Though not mall’s fault, but someone must have made a mistake…Perhaps the players themselves.If the player in the game itself is not fun, will leave.Any game operation.
Pessimism is not only a continent server players, actually in the United States server play Chinese players have also become more negative.I believe that the negative is derived from love.and are you saying players from the United States feel the same way as you? and if so how do you know? Also the difference in your example is that the Diablo 3 auction house was closed because gear in diablo 3 meant you were actually better than someone. Gear in gw2 just means you look better than them, legendaries in no way provide you game play advantage. I am sorry man, but honestly your argument is not very appealing nor does it make sense. GW2 is different from many games in the sense that skill means everything while gear means nothing. You CANT actually pay to win, you pay to look good.
Yes, maybe the way we play a game and thinking is different, maybe the players feel good, in fact if ANET continue so, before long, you will hear the GW2 news of the defeat in China.It’s not important, because the European and American players will not cause any effect.In fact, it has been a large number of Chinese players don’t want to mention the GW2.Abuse of the heart.
But, ANET is not abusing anyone with the Gem Store, its the gaming mentality in China that you have to farm and buy gold with real money. It happens in the other countries but it happens more in China. Unless the gem store is giving you an item that makes you super strong, it is doing nothing wrong. I’m sorry you feel this way
Simple you think mall as long as they don’t sell to strengthen props is no harm to the game that I want to say is the game must be on the premise of rich own game content with some content.And GW2 game content, I think there is no honor, no fun, boring, no sincerity, chaos to describe.Even released the expansion of the content is very less, how much content is worth to buy me out of 50 d?50 d is a very small number, but still want to see if he is worth it.
If the number is not a game server, players will be natural wonder whether the game is going to collapse.If the Chinese server broke down, I will not come back to the server, because the content of the game.
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Play games if skills to win, so look at PVP and WVW, PVP queuing mechanism is still not bad, I love to play more interesting LOL.WVW is kept running, and knocked at the door.Don’t feel any fun.On the other hand mall has never stopped.Though not mall’s fault, but someone must have made a mistake…Perhaps the players themselves.If the player in the game itself is not fun, will leave.Any game operation.
Pessimism is not only a continent server players, actually in the United States server play Chinese players have also become more negative.I believe that the negative is derived from love.and are you saying players from the United States feel the same way as you? and if so how do you know? Also the difference in your example is that the Diablo 3 auction house was closed because gear in diablo 3 meant you were actually better than someone. Gear in gw2 just means you look better than them, legendaries in no way provide you game play advantage. I am sorry man, but honestly your argument is not very appealing nor does it make sense. GW2 is different from many games in the sense that skill means everything while gear means nothing. You CANT actually pay to win, you pay to look good.
Yes, maybe the way we play a game and thinking is different, maybe the players feel good, in fact if ANET continue so, before long, you will hear the GW2 news of the defeat in China.It’s not important, because the European and American players will not cause any effect.In fact, it has been a large number of Chinese players don’t want to mention the GW2.Abuse of the heart.
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And PVE content because the PVE unique, unique content, to be proud of is through hard work and skills.And the guild wars 2 is put most of the content in the auction house, and the lion and cash gold can buy gems.
Think carefully, and I in a world of warcraft have been almost no flowers inside of point card money, and guild wars 2 leave me memory is that money can buy anything, and through the PVE get most of them are garbage.You seem to be coming from a very biased opinion, to actually afford to pay real money and convert to gold and buy everything you want in the game would actually cost quite a lot. Most of the items you find in gem store are cosmetic based, also you have to recognize this game differs from others because of its mechanic. You are not good based on your gear, you are good depending how you play. Someone may LOOK cooler than you but it does not mean they are better. Also, the gem store works both ways, you don’t need to spend a dollar on the game if you are willing to just farm gold. YOU personally just seem to have a bad experience. Most people think the gem store is fine and would prefer this over a subscription fee and paying 10 dollars a month. YOU mentioned minis earlier, that for example yes comes from anet every month but is purely cosmetic and does not effect gameplay at all
This is not an extreme point of view, and closed as the diablo iii auction house is in the same way.Legendary weapon’s cost in China is just another game in the price of the common, the reality is there are some players haven’t promoted to full level, is a legendary weapon direct purchase, and then when they reach level, found that have nothing to do, so he left.
Play games if skills to win, so look at PVP and WVW, PVP queuing mechanism is still not bad, I love to play more interesting LOL.WVW is kept running, and knocked at the door.Don’t feel any fun.On the other hand mall has never stopped.Though not mall’s fault, but someone must have made a mistake…Perhaps the players themselves.If the player in the game itself is not fun, will leave.Any game operation.
Pessimism is not only a continent server players, actually in the United States server play Chinese players have also become more negative.I believe that the negative is derived from love.
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The gem store is bad for perception, but is quite reasonable as a model. They self support with a group of people who design weapon and armour sets and the extra money goes not just into profits, but sustaining the game. However what a lot of players see is that they are spending all these resources on gem store items, not realising that it is the gemstore itself that is sustaining these resources. The Watchwork pick was probably the one time I felt uncomfortable about it.
That I will tell you my server in China’s actual situation, the new skin and the lion, I almost don’t buy, buy other players also very little, whenever there is a really good players want to buy the weapons of the skin, there are some players will choose a day to AC, and the process continues.I will go to illegal to buy gold, farming gold COINS for me is a waste of my time and no game fun.In fact, the operator can’t make money, or can only earn little money.
Game content, on the other hand, the monotonous and not update, a dozen of my best friends are out of the game, more than half a year is not online.My guild but 6 people during rush hours.Players have left because the PVE is so boring.So the operator to earn more money, can’t keep the game.So the operator constantly sell in-game skin out.Fun games itself down further, faster players leave..This is a vicious circle.
It is better to put those no one buy black lion skin in PVE content, content will something to do to buy another player.Unable to operate without the game itself, no matter how much you sell things.
The key lies in game content monotonous.Chinese players is not a fool, they come fast, go too fast.Not literally everything can success in China.
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I am not totally opposed to the jewelry store, the actual situation is, update the gem store does not stop, and the game itself but not to add, gameplay remains monotonous, the mechanism of PVP rank maddening. I have never played a game that is so slow and has no sincerity. Gw2 first is a game, and then add the mall. The actual situation is just the opposite.
Just like in many games out, how do you propose they maintain servers and keep the game going for you without some kind of incentive to have players pay? Would you prefer a subscription fee like World of Warcraft?
To world of Warcraft as an example, I rarely go to a large copy, but with friends do achievements, through different methods to collect rare pets and mounts. I in a version update after the first go to the circus in pet battle won the octopus SID, and my girlfriend beside fishing fishing out the a baby in the hippocampus.
While Guild Wars 2, I never collect pets, they’re too ugly, but only money can buy. No game fun. But my girlfriend almost never play online, prefer to play bad games Chinese production, because Guild Wars 2 is much more interesting than At least a real game, not a mall.
In fact, any print server Chinese rare items only need money can buy. Imagine World of Warcraft print by Blizzard war bear on the mall to sell what scene it.
Said so much, just want to illustrate a point of view, the Guild Wars 2 should first genuinely rich game content, and not gems and gems. also in China, guild wars 2 is recognized not fun game. It’s ironic.I am sorry to say I barely understand you, but besides the World of Warcraft example you still havent answered my question. How do you keep the Guild Wars 2 servers up for years without anyone paying? Also, what I can understand you realize the gem store does not effect you in any way unless you WANT to buy their gem store items which it seems like you don’t.
The key is to distinguish between games and malls boundaries, for example, mall and a skin, black lion box each update so corresponding PVE content also can update the other different content of the skin, is simply to increase the reward PVE content, rather than for players to have nothing to do.
Mall should tend to be more facial appearance, hair style, hair color, which can be open to sell, China’s domestic game, a character can buy hundreds of different hairstyles and facial.The number of the Chinese game mall commodity is dozens of times the guild wars 2.
And PVE content because the PVE unique, unique content, to be proud of is through hard work and skills.And the guild wars 2 is put most of the content in the auction house, and the lion and cash gold can buy gems.
Think carefully, and I in a world of warcraft have been almost no flowers inside of point card money, and guild wars 2 leave me memory is that money can buy anything, and through the PVE get most of them are garbage.
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Posted by: alberte.2685
I am not totally opposed to the jewelry store, the actual situation is, update the gem store does not stop, and the game itself but not to add, gameplay remains monotonous, the mechanism of PVP rank maddening. I have never played a game that is so slow and has no sincerity. Gw2 first is a game, and then add the mall. The actual situation is just the opposite.
Just like in many games out, how do you propose they maintain servers and keep the game going for you without some kind of incentive to have players pay? Would you prefer a subscription fee like World of Warcraft?
To world of Warcraft as an example, I rarely go to a large riad.but with friends do achievements, through different methods to collect rare pets and mounts. I in a version update after the first go to the circus in pet battle won the octopus SID, and my girlfriend beside fishing fishing out the a baby in the hippocampus.
While Guild Wars 2, I never collect pets, they’re too ugly, but only money can buy. No game fun. But my girlfriend almost never play online, prefer to play bad games Chinese production, because Guild Wars 2 is much more interesting than At least a real game, not a mall.
In fact, any print server Chinese rare items only need money can buy. Imagine World of Warcraft print by Blizzard war bear on the mall to sell what scene it.
Said so much, just want to illustrate a point of view, the Guild Wars 2 should first genuinely rich game content, and not gems and gems. also in China, guild wars 2 is recognized not fun game. It’s ironic.
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I am not totally opposed to the jewelry store, the actual situation is, update the gem store does not stop, and the game itself but not to add, gameplay remains monotonous, the mechanism of PVP rank maddening. I have never played a game that is so slow and has no sincerity. Gw2 first is a game, and then add the mall. The actual situation is just the opposite.
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As a special case of China that KDW is inside the game all the skin can sell take out to sell, especially the skin of Fotm. I play a year Fotm is very fortunate bitter two skin, and I spent some of the money is very easy to get six skin. The game has become a shop, and the game itself lose the fun. More and more old players and fans were heartbroken, it seems the game in mainland China have lived before too long.
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If HOT sell 50dallor and not gems any more. I’ll buy it. Gems is destorying game.
Anet full brain is mall money money and earn money, the content of the game is not very hard, a lot of the time like fooling player.GW2 has slowly become a game mode I hate.
Yes, the Chinese people to the gem store carry forward, this is I as Chinese people like to play games in Europe and America. Gems store let the game become without honor and playability, only need money you can get all the game is disappointing.
I am not totally opposed to the gems store, the actual situation is, update the gem store does not stop, and the game itself but not to add, gameplay remains monotonous, the mechanism of PVP rank maddening. I have never played a game that is so slow and has no sincerity. Gw2 first is a game, and then add the mall. The actual situation is just the opposite.
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Lets see :
From one hand you are saying that GW2 players in China , they dont have anything to do so they leave , and you ask when the x-packs will launchThen in the other hand you are saying that the NPE theres a huge difference in the XP gained (20% slower in the chinese server) and newer ppl hate it
Hm , can you make a roadmap , where our conversation will go , or we will here all night ?
But again ….. the USA+ EU side makes 20 million dollars
If the Chinese version has only 50.000 ppl x 15 dollars skin = 750.000 dallars
I dont see the problem of not releasein the SAB
( they said " No SAB + no new dungeons for the near future ..)
SAB SKIN?Direct selling is 55 dollar, want to draw to draw, it involves several hundred dollar.
Poor guild wars 2, in China to sell only at a price of $12, 1.5 million, and diablo 3 for $24 a week sold 3 million copies
One thing OP mentions is “illegal things” and plug in statements online.
The illegal things, who handles that? The data from the game undoubtably goes through the publisher. Do they handle the banning of illegal things or does ANet? If the data goes through KZW I suspect it does since they have the information first hand.
The same probably for the plug in statements (whatever those are).
Plugins in China, it is through the local modification of data transformation, which means that the open plugins can release 10000 times a second.All of these can be flying stealth in underground movement.
This plugin can appear, because the server will not review the data.That means ANET need to audit the wrong data to make the game itself..Probably is this meaning.
So you are saying that there are cheat mods some players are using, big time paying customers, so KongZhong don’t ban them and that’s hurting the game for the rest of you.
I’m sorry that KZW is treating you so poorly but they pretty much have total control how the game servers are run there as well as the gem and other shops. ANet simply provides them the game and the tools to localize it for a small cut of sales the game generates.
ANET actually did a lot of experiments on the server in China, the worst part in all the servers in China, for example, PVP, players will match to a team player.As early as the system is running on the server in China, and makes a lot of players out of the game.Because LOL is fair, but in GW2 a loose players will be team players playing vomiting blood, you’ll never win.
ANET later turn the system has been generalized to US on the server.
Below is my guess,
Because KZW need money to run the game – > sell SAB skin – > SAB cannot openYou simply dont understand something .
A while ago the company said that they wont focus on creating the ‘new section/part’’ of the SAB , neither expant dungeons for the time beeing ….
That created a huge uproar , here in the community … if you remember corectlyI remember some1 creating an uproar about the implamentation of the King-Queen sub model
Or the company for banning ppl using the WTFastI cant still understand , how they can make huge amount of money with the SAB skins , but with low population …
The Chinese will be look down upon the ability of making money.
KZW launched an activity, you can buy a prop, random gain a skin, like a lottery.There might be SAB skin.
The number of guild wars 2 is very less, because the game problems of its own, and not completely is the responsibility of the operator.
Many American server game changes, such as the so-called new guidance system, some new skin back, all is the experiment on the server in China.Then the players don’t like, will not appear, and the Chinese players have no choice.Chinese players on the server will not be able to pass production experience, the server needs to be completed only less than 50% of the map can be full level, while the Chinese server needs to be completed 70%, fault will encounter a lot of experience.This leads to a lot of new to guild wars 2 players left directly.
Am I reading correctly that there are paid PvP/WvW items via the KZW shop?
On the surface is not, in fact, as long as you are spending enough, you can open in PVP/plugin WVW random killings, video, report, any way, complaints are doesn’t make any sense.Activities like this, China’s rich people are likely to be a top-up gems of up to 1 million yuan.In fact there are some Chinese game to pay 100000 RMB a month can only mix a little brother
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Since a previous Chinese poster has already said the the Chinese version has less than 50,000 players I don’t see how it can survive. Surely it’s going to close down anyway. if it can’t pay the bills.
1, we have to pay once money game, so we can play to guild wars 2.If it has I need I will pay, if he is not good, I love to pay the studio.
2, this game is no longer popular in China, it is a fact.
3, another is the fact that why one hundreds of millions of people love to play PC games market guild wars 2 couldn’t succeed.World of warcraft and hero alliance is very successful.Most Chinese AFK players are waiting for ANET amplification, waiting for the HOT whether can succeed.Yes, I also so.
4, I am not happy because of KZW didn’t want to have a good business guild wars 2, play with possessions clown mocked, send you a few spherical spirit quality is super gift.Actually plugin has wiped out WVW, PVP now already a lot of plugins.The KZW reply is please avoid playing the player with plugins.Are you (and apparently others) unhappy with the way it’s run over there, or with game itself? I can’t understand why the game even needed to be changed. Surely there’s that many people that a stack of them would like the appeal of it in the way many of us do in the western markets.
Is essentially the same as Chinese and western players appreciate and good design.Good design is can be across borders.
I put it this way, apple mobile phone in China can succeed, because it is good enough, good to people from all ethnic cultures to be able to appreciate it.Hero alliance, world of warcraft, and some TV drama.
The other is an extreme example, most Chinese people don’t like the Japanese, because the cause of the war, but the Japanese design is very popular in China.Because they are good enough.
As a game in China nearly died, I believe that for players like it, this is bad news.
And don’t look down upon Chinese, China’s four major ancient civilizations, and thousands of years China has been the east’s most powerful nation.Although the past 100 years make China seem to become a nation no longer respected.But the height of civilization will be back in China, just like the past thousands of years.
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