Guild Wars 2

Amaimon.7823:

anninke.7469:

I’ve just saw the update post… And I speculate that I won’t be able to play ep5 before giving birth, Mordykitten. I should somehow make my guildies wait for me, so I’m not alone when I get to play it. And to avoid spoilers.

No worries. Just log in for 5 seconds when you pass your computer by, and the content will be free and really 8 waiting for you when you come back later.
Congratulations and best of luck.

No prob there, I should be able to unlock it in time (or can let my husband take care of it). I just selfishly hoped I’d be able to play some more before the baby’s born

And thank you

I’ve just saw the update post… And I speculate that I won’t be able to play ep5 before giving birth, Mordykitten. I should somehow make my guildies wait for me, so I’m not alone when I get to play it. And to avoid spoilers.

On one hand, yes, in-game prank would be awesome. But on the other, the notes are really fun and at least no one (hopefully) will get offended by those. Well done

And I’d actually really like the thing with planting Caladbolg. I’m all for running around with miniature Trahearne on my back, saying “This won’t end well” randomly.

I might be a sick kitten but I find this mini totally absolutely hillarious. Actually, if I could get a sword (or mace) skin to go with it I’d be really plesased. (Fish slapping dance, anyone? )

And I just don’t see it “desperatly gasping for air in vain” or whatever. They do these mouth-moves in the water as well for breathing.

Kesaji.4976:

anninke.7469:

Kesaji.4976:

Same here, game is unplayable since this morning, at first I was blaming my internet provider (UPC, Czech Republic) but it seems that is not the case.

Plus one – CZ, UPC. Huge spikes, ping up to 4k. Tried the port swapping, didn’t help for more than 5 minutes.
Strangely enough, guildies with different providers (same city) seem to have been ok so far…
Do you know about anyone having these problems with any other provider than UPC? Just out of curiosity.

I asked around, and one of my friends with a different provider (netbox) has the same issue, so it’s definitely not upc (which, frankly, I wouldn’t even consider strange at this point, upc tends to be garbage)

Thanks for info. Meanwhile, I learned the hard way that defeating the Vale Guardian with ping over 4k is a no-no And also met another guys suffering from the same condition.

Kesaji.4976:

Same here, game is unplayable since this morning, at first I was blaming my internet provider (UPC, Czech Republic) but it seems that is not the case.

Plus one – CZ, UPC. Huge spikes, ping up to 4k. Tried the port swapping, didn’t help for more than 5 minutes.
Strangely enough, guildies with different providers (same city) seem to have been ok so far…
Do you know about anyone having these problems with any other provider than UPC? Just out of curiosity.

I liked the chapter pretty kitten much. Particularly the little thingies like class-specific options (I laughed so hard I almost fell off my chair after succesfully using the ranger one), return of at least a few dialog choices and that one Taimi’s line taking in consideration my PC’s race for a change.
The only thing I found really annoying was having to do map completion tasks to progress in the story (right after doing it out of curiosity).

I just wish people stopped with this kill-everyone nonsense. Regardless of how you see some NPC behaviour, why do they need to die for everything you don’t like? Just let them walk off and be forgotten, no need for useless violence. Do all of you “kill-them-now” people really need to hurt someone to feel better?

I’d be much happier if half of armor skins didn’t make my small thin male toons look like they’re padded up for a hockey match or pumped with seroids. Seriously, it’s hideous…
Also, body types might be another problem for new armor sets development.

Thornwolf.9721:

…
Why did my Charr Druid and My Norn warrior handle the situation almost exactly the same?
…

Same reason like when my Sylvari druid seemed to care about not only Eir more than about Trahearne (knew the dude since leaving the pod, had to kill him, but apparently no big deal) or about the Pale Tree (yup, who would actually care about their badly wounded comatose parent/goddes figure, right? let’s just kite off to Shiverpeaks to a Norn burial).

I don’t like them either. There’s not enough garlic in the world to make them likeable

brokenserenity.4638:

anninke.7469:

Ticky.5831:

Doam.8305:

How do you expect people to care at all about future story segments?

By reading the in-game S1 primer.

Something like “and you deeply care for him, him and her, because you’ve read that you do”?
Can’t say it works well for me…

The wiki also does a kitten good job of filling in the blanks of ls1.

Yep, it’s awesome for filling in the blanks. But sadly not so great for making a player care for someone. I mean – I know what happened being the story-addict I am. But if one does not experience it directly, it’s kind of distant. Like a person appearing at your door saying you had a wonderful time full of mutual sympathy last summer and became close friends; that person has, I don’t know, photos or letter or some other prove confirming it, but you have no recollection of that at all.

Ticky.5831:

Doam.8305:

How do you expect people to care at all about future story segments?

By reading the in-game S1 primer.

Something like “and you deeply care for him, him and her, because you’ve read that you do”?
Can’t say it works well for me…

About defending Braham because of his age: Well, in my case (or any Sylvari PC) he was being mean as hell to a FOUR-YEAR-OLD, just so he knows, the kittening over-muscled self-absorbed bully…

Isn’t it obtainable from a laurel vendor too? I guess I saw it there…

I’d like to see those finished as well. I’m just afraid that we’re an irrelevant minority of another minority. It seems most people don’t really care about the story at all and those who do are usually more interested in what’s next than in how did that part end.
And there’s the fact that many people strongly dislike Trahearne for whatever …cough… stupid… cough reasons. (Yeah, I’m forever bitter about how they kittened with the poor guy )

ANet presents… Taimi and Poobah!

Well… Braham sure was a major kittenhole in the last episode but I must confess I don’t really mind. At least I now have an excuse for (having been) disliking him (for a long time).

As for Dragon’s Watch, let’s rename it to Broken Watch.

I’m perfectly fine with Aurene. Maybe it’s just because I’m too much of a coward to argue with a dragon, although a freshly hatched and cute-ish looking one. At least that’s how I understood the name scene – the PC does not come up with a name, they’re told by the dragon itself.

Carlin Sanders.3587:

anninke.7469:

Carlin Sanders.3587:

Quick solution: everyone dies next episode three times or more. Make them all die to death.

You mean “kill them till they’re dead, because that’s worse”?

People die when they are killed.

Here, enjoy an explanation by the expert on Youtube

Carlin Sanders.3587:

Quick solution: everyone dies next episode three times or more. Make them all die to death.

You mean “kill them till they’re dead, because that’s worse”?

Inculpatus cedo.9234:

If the Devs keep adding cats to locations, will we (who feed them) all eventually become ‘crazy cat ladies’? =P

No. It’s just that our already existent tendencies got discovered.

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

Let’s get back to discussing Trehearne’s many faults.

What do you mean by “many”? He had only two.
First – he was a bit too talkative.
Second – he, by his own long-time work, got to be considered (more) respectable (than the PC) by many of Tyrian leading figures.

Oh, there might be another after all – he considered the Pact Commander his friend and thus dared to share his doubts with them and also had the nerve to ask for help.
Wow, what a lowly good-for-nothing…

I’d rather get a shiny. A single armor piece/weapon skin, a small decoration to my home instance or something like that. Just a little thing that says “hey, we know you’ve bought the previous releases (and/or lots of gems) and we appreciate it”.

If you’re fixing it, could you please also fix the bug that makes the head piece visible on my toon in hero panel although it’s toggled hidden? It’s not a big thing, but it tends to confuse me a bit.

Arden.7480:

Mordremoth died and “it is a time of celebration”, but we didn’t have a party like in Personal Story after Zhaitan’s death.

We should celebrate that we have Dragon’s Watch, new allies and no more Mordremoth.

I know that Eir died, but it was in the first Act of the HoT’s story…
Mordremoth died!!! Lets make a party!

Sorry, no time. We had no time to honor the fallen Marshal, we have no time for parties either. “Pacing” blah blah blah…
(Yeah, still bitter about Trahearne.)

Ithilwen.1529:

-edit- Small logical error in the story. The Skald states that Knut Whitebear banished Eir from Hoelbrak. She goes on to say that Eir returned to Hoelbrack with Destiny’s Edge before defeating the Lieutenant of Jormag.

She could not have done this if she were banished.

Well, they were passing through Hoelbrak on their way.

AllNightPlayer.1286:

But it/ he has to say “This won’t end well”.
Like the Mini Ellen Kiel or Mini Evon Gnashblade.

But sometimes change it to “Well done!” for a little self-esteem boost.

I was soooo afraid of those ugly mobs killing my toon (and they did – a lot). I used to get so nervous I was literally dodging in real life, what a luck that I had my pc on a low table and was sitting on the floor. I also tried to look behind cornes and down the cliffs by leaning in RL. I suspect I still do it sometimes…

Me wants! Take my gems and give me mini-Trahearne!

Ashen.2907:

anninke.7469:

I’d really like to know how many people actually really dislike him

I actively disliked (hate is such a strong word) Trahearne before it was cool to do so.

OK, thanks. Way to start my statistic

Margorion.4962:

Anyone who lost a life to a sylvari or the actions of the pale tree could have the right motivation for an assassaniation. Or just one of the many evil groups (nightmare, bandits, inquest,…). Finding a culprit wouldnt be a problem

For the storyline:
It wouldnt be a problem for the story to have independent sylvari. The pale tree’s role and actions could be explained through some kind of memory seeds, which would redeem or condemn her actions. After her death the sylvari would be free from her influence and could hunt the murderers of they beloved mother.

You know, it might actually be a very interesting plot.
I originally thought something along the lines “everyone hates Sylvari now, so the assasination is kind of looked upon with understanding by all other races and maybe even officially supported” and that would probably be a problem for a Sylvari PC (considering the generic-pink-nazgul-to-NPCs rule wouldn’t apply), because it should set them on a lonely-avenger-against-all path. Not that it doesn’t sound interesting, but it’s a bit unreal to apply.

Mordeus.1234:

Trahearne’s importance is based around the existence of the Pact and the uniting of Tyria against the Elder Dragons. However without Eir none of that would have been possible. For she was the one who formed Destiny’s Edge and was their leader. People believe that Rytlock or Logan are more important than Eir, but she was their ‘boss’ and the one who saved them from a life of fighting in arena fights.

Without Eir showing Tyria that the five races could work together to defeat the Elder Dragons, Trahearne would not have been able to do the same via the Pact.

Trahearne was pretty much a general, but Eir was a legendary warrior and unifier. Not to mention that on a personal level she means more to the game’s main characters than Trahearne, who really only forged a close bond with the player.

The game didn’t do a great job of showing the importance of Eir but GW2 is founded on her actions.

But her legendary deeds alone can’t make her the PC’s close friend, which she’s apparently supposed to be and which has been stated to be (important one of) the reason(s) why we go to her funeral.

Pregnantman.8259:

Aaron Ansari.1604:

killing the Pale Tree probably would require either an army that’d need to fight through a host of very determined defenders, or a magical nuke of some kind.

One only needs to invent a weapon that a small group can carry unnoticed. We have fought with a lot of Mordrem and we have the best and most pragmatic minds (Arcane Council) right next to largest collection of knowledge about dragons and their minions (Rata Novus) and it is only a matter of time before they get their hands on that information. You have to realize we killed the mind of the Elder Dragon of Mind without preparation or anything. Nothing would be surprising any more.

Who would go on the mission? And what to do with any sylvari PC if something like that happened (regardless of whether the mission succeeded)?

Tars.6804:

Eleiyas.8217:

I was somewhat weirded-out by the whole Eir deal during LWS3.

Like… Trahearne was 100x more important than Eir during both the main story and HoT, yet we hear like one line of dialogue about Trahearne, yet have a whole mission dedicated to remembering Eir.

I’ll admit she was a large part of the Norn personal story, but for every other race it just doesn’t make any sense.

I agree. I miss her too, but Trahearne was far more integral – and close to me.

I can’t even say I miss her… Barely ever met her and had no chance to get close.

As for Trahearne haters – I’d really like to know how many people actually really dislike him and how many are just mindlessly following the idea because they herad/read it somewhere and possibly think it cool.

(I somehow made up a fanfic personal story chapter in which my sylvari PC can’t bring himself to go and tell the Pale Tree he killed Trahearne, so instead he ends up in LA drowning himself in booze until a norn guy sent by Braham shows up and literally drags him over to Hoelbrak… Not very happy I felt the need to do so.)

I can understand (all too well) the problems with large back items obstructing view, I can also understand that people may not like the glittery flashy shiny looks of some characters for whatever reasons. And while I do think that having a way to lower/hide those effects would be nice, I really don’t like the attitude “Your taste is annoying because I don’t like it” or “I don’t like your character’s style, so it’s hideous”. If nothing else, offensive wording brings up unnecessary opposition and can thus harm the presented idea in the end.

I started because my boyfriend made me. I continue because I feel good in the game, I like its cooperative nature, I like the setting and I’ve found new friends in the game. Oh, and last but not least – Sylvari

darkprecure.6129:

anninke.7469:

So is it basically “give me three for one”? (armor-wise)

It takes away the possibility of swapping stats by using the mystic forge and gives you the comfort of not having to use the bank / shared account slots to move the armor between characters.

OK, thanks for clarification.

So is it basically “give me three for one”? (armor-wise)

Tars.6804:

Neurion.4086:

Trahearne was my friend. I felt more close to him than I felt to Eir. Now, I don’t really know why ANet made me to say that I will greatly miss her*. It’s sad she died but I am more sad over Trahearne’s death than hers.

*Better yet, I know but I disagree: It was a trick to force a false sympathy and future friendship for Braham. Sorry, but Rytlok and Canach are far more interesting characters than Braham.

I’m the same with you on Trahearne. For the rest, to each his own, but yes, I felt the same way about Eir. I loved Eir too, as a mentor, looked up to her, but Trahearne I loved as the closest of friends. I felt as if we had an understanding.

But I’m not about to bash the rest of the remaining Pact or Destiny’s Edge. I’ve still a loyalty to them. But ultimately, I fight for Trahearne, as I always have.

Count me in too, guys.

citypigeon.6358:

tobascodagama.2961:

Really, the stupid decision here was to have an individual memorial for Eir rather than a mass memorial service for “all of our fallen friends” or something like that.

^Seriously, this. As a non-norn, I was fairly apathetic to all of the NPCs and interactions at Eir’s memorial (except for Garm. Poor doggy)

Many Pact soldiers lost their lives to the Mordrem ambush, including its very own leader. The entire organization is completely shaken to its core. As its former second-in-command, we really should’ve been attending to that whole debacle in the form of a mass memorial that addressed the death of one of the game’s most significant NPCs. This could’ve easily included a dedication to Eir, since she partook in the Pact initiative of killing Zhaitan.

Extremely surprised/disappointed Anet didn’t think of that

Yep. And it would have made much more sense than having to love and miss Eir so much out of the blue.

Oh crap, I missed that one… Would have participated had I known beforehand.

Moonyeti.3296:

It isn’t so much that the Sylvari aren’t developed enough to deal with death individually; rather there hasn’t been enough time for them to form a codified cultural response to death. An individual may pick up on different ways of dealing with death and grieving loss. As a society though they have yet to form a cultural standard response to death.

I don’t know… Even very primitive societies have some way to send off their dead and it’s usually a community event. Sylvari have been around for almost 30 years and have seen many deaths during that time; they’ve also seen other races’ burial rites. And they seem to be pretty close to each other emotionally, so approach this individual (or ignorant) doesn’t make much sense to me.

(Side note: Ugh, I’ve just noticed the typo in my earlier post. My eyes bleed… )

Mel.8495:

it is still in frostgorge sound, same as yesterday. so it is surely not resetting at the same time as dailies do

That might be because of the rollback, though.

Zoltar MacRoth.7146:

That other poster was giving him credit for carrying it and going on about how it was a special sword. That’s all I was replying to. It must be a seriously shiny sword cause I’ve seen several posters mention him carrying it as though it’s some special character trait. It’s not T’s fault, really. He’s a teacher’s pet. And no matter how hard he tried to change his image to bad boy with that whole necromancer thing he’s always going to be the golden boy to many, no matter how many swords or CDs he borrows and doesn’t return.

Oh, so that’s what you meant. I got a little confused there.

Also, Trahception sounds freakin’ cool, but… you know… Anet writing.

You mean the decisions left for the PC? Aren’t those to make the player feel they get to decide something as oposed to “I decided we need to do this and that, so go” a strong leader would say? Or is it in the wording and presenting those choices? No NPC fights their own fights in this game. If they would, players would have nothing to do.

LOL, does he really get stuck on terrain? I’ve never noticed! I have to go and see… Poor guy
But the rez-need is for all of them big badkitten heroes. It’s the exact reason why I can’t think of Eir as highly as she probably deserves. HotW dungeon (not only). She still down instead of helping. Is she a friggin’ hero or a cleaning lady?

I’m still green in GW2, so the (probably) relevant time were long before me playing, but was it really such a big part of community? Because, from what I see on this forum in general, it’s not about numbers but more about being vocal and obstinate enough. And people are vocal usually only when they don’t like something, so the part of community that was okay with him or didn’t care might have remained quiet and is thus omitted from your counting. And may come out now, when they feel annoyed. There’s also the part who would mind literally anyone else than the PC in the leading position, because “I’m the hero so why do I have to obey someone else?” mindset. It could then mean that Eir is not liked better. She is just not cared about by the majority.
Oh my, now I’ve made myself feel sorry for her… She probably sits in the backstage bar with Trahearne, both drinking like the world’s about to end just to wash away the pain

The two threads are hell indeed. I have to open both to know what I wrote to which. And still I mixed them up.

Maybe, just maybe they’ve chosen him thinking he would be a puppet leader always stuck in his office doing paperwork? Would make sense.

Also, I’ll try to move to the other thread, so we don’t have to double post…

Ardenwolfe.8590:

Heck, maybe he’s the strange spirit we keep seeing. . . .

Thought of this too. But more out of sulking than anything else, I have to admit.

To the OP – Same here. Come to the Living World subforum and join me in one of the two T-related whining threads (just maybe wait after you’ve been through the LS3 start, you know, spoilers). And please take anyone thinking similarly along.

Still enough S&S fantasy for me. HoT is the “endless epic battle” part. Luckily it’s more entertaining playing it through than reading about it.
However, genre cross-over is fine too.

JaddynnStarr.5201:

Whether its equal thirds or 90% of one, the principle is no different. Sylvari made up less then 20% of the pact force, and even less after mordy decided to make it real.(i know the mordy thing had little impact as it was after the fact, but still…) I also disagree with having to make up for trehearnes shortcommings. It is not my responsibility to babysit a superior officer. not even third world countries would tolerate that.

I also think it wrong that trehearne being a strong leader would negate our need. quite the opposite is true, as said before, he is stuck in the office and still needs people to do important missions that he cannot do. the matter under discussion is respect at this point.

I do understand what you are trying to say about sam and frodo, but there is one component seriously lacking in that department… the fact those two loved each other as friends before they were burdened with the great journey. They werent forced on each other as strangers.

I don’t see being a Sylvari of any importance, the Pact was formed by the three multiracial Orders, that’s why I went with “thirds”.

A strong leader, Trahearne or whoever, would sure need to send you on missions, but wouldn’t need you at the Pact Commander position. No second in command would be necessary. You’re only there, because T feels he need’s you there. (Is it bad writing? Yep. But it is canonically given too.) So you’d most likely remain a “regular if admired” warmaster/lightbringer/magister under your respective Order head.

Then there’s an issue of how each of us actually sees Trahearne, I don’t really see him as weak. Having doubts? Yes. But not weak. Why do you think he is? Where and how does it show? (If you clear it up to me it might stop me from bombarding you with unending blabbering…)

To the last paragraph. I believe you were supposed to become friends with T before the Pact’s founding, but it didn’t come across well. Cough… writing… cough… Probably the same way you were probably supposed to become friends with Eir. Cough… The only difference is that with T you had a lot more time to do so.