Guild Wars 2

Ok….did the op just say they wont leap their healing spring because its…..cheesey…

. But….getting trounced by classes you should beat with no problem…that….not cheese?

/facepalm

If you aren’t using a food and a secondary you are seriously gimping yourself on some huge buffs. The 40%Condi duration plus Condi damage then the stone that converts toughness to Condi or whatever….its time to om nom nom your way to the winners circle!

With poison being such a focus with druids I think an f4 taking advantage would be something like this.

F4- devious spores 180 second cool down.
. 1/2 cast AoE 900yard range.
Effect-each enemy affected by poison at the time of casting is rooted in place for 2 seconds. After the 2 seconds spores explode from targets and 300 yard range applying 4 stacks of torment to each affected enemy.(maximum 5 targets effected)

A skill like this would be great and make poison application an important process for the druid.

Whoajaxx the ranger.

Hi there. After watching your video several times. I feel that your build in conjunction with your unfamiliarity with proper ranger placement is your main problem.

First thing I saw right off the bat is you swapped pets the second you got in combat,causing a huge cool down for no reason when you could have switched as soon as you saw your foe,allowing you an extra swap.

Also after taking huge damage from the thief you sit right outside his SR giving him a chance to reset and reopen at his leisure.

I’ll leave the build deficiencies out of the reply because you’ve already gotten great advice on that.

At the end of the day a properly played ranger with a viable build can fight two thieves all day long without fear of being downed.

one last imho thought…while you feel your build is viable your video clearly shows otherwise.best thing to do is take some ideas you’ve gotten here and mix it with “your build” and keep doing that till you dont get creamed,chances are right about the time you stop getting creamed will be the time you’ve made use of most of these suggestions .

My best wishes
Woahjaxx the ranger.

Ok one sec…ive always used guard as boon application and a way to activate my pets secondary skills on command,but I thought the stealth portion of it didn’t hit until they got to where you placed the ground targeting.

Does the pet really get stealth the whole way in? (I normally cast it right next to me or on my healing spring for a blast finisher so I’ve never noticed)

Salutations folks just a quick question….from what I’ve seen the new traits in the lines are set in stone. So you cant use an adept in a grandmaster slot…am I correct in that? It sure seems like they removed tons of possible builds by doing this. Could someone enlighten me as to why anet would make such a decision?

It seems like more and more games are running down the trait /talent portion of their games to prevent people from actually having to think.

Anyhow,some thoughts on this would be great.

I spend almost all my time in wvw but in other games I raided quite hard core for years. One thing that other games do is put a skill block on content via attunements or medals that have to be earned.

now I dont think anything crazy needs to be done….but something to prevent terrible players from inserting themselves into something just to be carried through.

Whoever said this game has a huge number of terrible players….i couldn’t agree more..and to the people who say “its ok they are terrible,they are just unwinding” that’s like a novice chess player sitting down with someone for a match and stuffing the rook up their butt and saying….“I’m just unwinding” just because the game is a source of relaxation doesn’t mean you shouldn’t take the time to play correctly.

Imho of course.

Jaxx

So are you able to weapon swap while using the druid weapon? How is that going to work with the traits ..interesting..although I wish you got more then one trait line for a specialization…seems kinda weak

I think a ranger is a great choice for an experienced player who wants to play a class that has potential that directly correlates with the skill of the player. Rangers are great for theory crafters and min maxers who like to see their builds succeed or fail in a clear cut manner. ( I feel that unlike most other classes the smallest change in builds can be felt in combat which is great for theory crafters)

On the other hand I think ranger is a terrible choice for new or sub par players.as its easy to fall into the bear bow mentality.

This is imho of course.

. jaxx

In the ranger section Peters posted that they are aware of the passive/aggressive issues that were caused a while ago. I also believe that in a dev video/stream it was said that all AI in the game was getting a serious over haul,ranger pets included.

Once pets can hit a moving target and get 1.5seconds evade upon ranger dodge roll I think pets will be in a fairly decent place.

Imho

Jaxx

I didn’t take the time to read all the replies but I’m sure someone has said this…from a business marketing stand point it would be foolish to open the hype gate this soon..by the time the game released interest would be stymied quite a bit. Marketing is a fine art…while people are saying they are losing interest they are still here talking about it…they are still telling friends,and people have already come back in droves. So now they just have to drip info until youre just about bored then a huge info dump which will tide folks over till release. Also if there is a NDA..once that drops all the sites and podcasts carry they hype train to launch.

Salutations folks! I’m curious if anyone has information on masteries? Is it going to be like a second trait system for once we hit 80,or is it just game fluff? Also are the masteries different for each class or is it one set for all?

Thanks

. jaxx

Well its important to remember that the specializations come with new traits and class mechanics if I’m not mistaken. So its impossible to even speculate until we know exactly what each specialization entails.

also with the new mastery options who knows what all we will be getting.

In regards to pet AI there was a post saying that all AI in the game was being fixed so I’m sure pets will be getting better….hell if they could hit a moving target and go up terrain rather than around it pets would be miles better lol.

Anyhow all this was imho.

Jaxx

Yeah guard is super common for Condi Gen builds. One thing that Alot of people don’t know is guard is a great way to activate your pets secondary abilities on command. As soon as they come out of guard while in combat they open with their secondary which is pretty handy!

With that you should run apoth or settlers. Depending on trait selections its an extremely viable Condi gen/support build and amazing for wvw roaming.

For sure. The amount of buffs we toss out is insane. What I really enjoy about the class is the synergy. Ie all the amazing things we can do on dodge roll with traits then finding ways to add tons of vigor ECT.

The possibility for amazing ranger builds is everywhere people just need the fire under their kitten to try to make something outside the meta.

Salutations fellow rangers! We all know the meta builds and the ones commonly seen. But during my hours of creation for the popular re-port build and now since my return,the revamping of the build ive taken a great interest in small skirmish synergy within the class and between groups mates.

So having said that I’m interested in seeing some builds that aren’t usually seen..but more so in interested in WHY you chose it.

I’m not looking for the next great build,just the next great thinker in the ranger community.so lets keep things civil.

Cant wait to hear all the great ideas!

Jaxx.

I do agree there should be a base “stay” function. Although I dont think it should have any buffs attached to it unless traited.

Imho

For sure fluff. Ive played a few classes to 80 and wvwd with them and imho the ranger has the largest disparity between skilled and unskilled players. I think that’s why we see some builds that are perhaps sub par are able to squeek a win out every once in a while.

Imho I think its important for rangers as a whole to stick to the issues that really need to be fixed rather then little debatable things like this. The ranger community is different then most because it seems to attract a large portion of new players. So we need to stick to the things that have been effed since release ie pets not hitting moving targets ECT.

if we dont stay focused on the main issues we are going to get royally screwed when its our turn for a revamp and end up getting changes that dont really matter.

Just my opinion.

Jaxx

Well I know I had a pack of 3 bow rangers chasing me. So I bottlenecked them,entangled,flame circle,drake aoe and axe and all 3 went down at the exact same time and it took about 7 seconds lol…then took much joy in stomping them.

As far as I’m concerned if you’re going to waste time running a bow…your other set better be s/d so you can get the hell out of dodge before I close the gap…hehe

Lol sadly that the majority of rangers…they plink away behind a bush but once you close the gap they go into an idiot throttle shock and start face rolling the keyboard.

Sometimes I wish some experienced rangers would do a clinic for the folks who just don’t know any better.

Aren’t daggers held the reverse way though? Should be able to tell, no?

And fluff, it sounds like the guy was probably running a s/t a/d Condi Gen build eh?

Any decent Condi based melee ranger can kill a zerker ranger in 6-7 seconds. The trap based builds have very little stun mitigation or Condi removal..and if their duck snort is on cool down….its all over with…lol

I’m interested in taking a peek at the build of the ranger youre talking about though.

Lol Cuf…that might be the most eloquent"L2P go eff yourself" reply Ive seen in a decade of mmo playing!

Joking aside I think what happens is people get worked like a rib In wvw and they rage out and just need a way to vent. I prefer kicking a loved one…but to each their own.

I dont understand why this ability is treated like its some kind of amazing skill…every time I fight a ranger that uses it they tend to be dead by the time its finished channeling lol. I think a bigger deal is stealth….if you take damage while stealthed it should break stealth.

Yeah its a Condi based regen/support build. Buffed on the field it has roughly 2400 Condi damage,2k toughness,3k armor,22k health . Its a blast to play. Once I get the variations finished ill post it up. And I use s/d a/t.

Well,since I do t have to use guard any more I was thinking about trying the asuran racial, the one with retal and confusion. Like I said ive been working on a variation of my re-port build with a few updates and changes. And yes most trapper vids ive seen are using bows which is what gave me my idea for this.

before I left my re-pot built ranger was dropping other rangers regardless of spec in spectacular fashion..but I know alot has changed so…im just keeping with the time hehe.

Well my thought was (vs trap build) have Prot up, then when trapper stealths assume a huge influx of damage,pop retal just as they burst. I figure with Prot and regen up (1350healing) it would spike heavy damage to them while negating the majority of incoming damage to me. That in conjunction with my own rotation of cc and dmg would cause the trapper quite a bit of trouble would it not?

That’s good to know fluff! I have a question while I have your attention, what % does retaliation reflect? And does it reflect Condi dmg? And does your Condi dmg increase the % it reflects?

Thanks folks!

Jaxx

Really liked the video. Some of those other rangers you duked it out with were really bad hehe. Your video shows alot of the nuances of your build. I’m working on a ranger build to counter the trapper build so this is awesome to watch.thanks for taking the time to make them!

Jaxx

Ive seen them run with s/t a/d with great success. Maybe give that a whirl.

The build is my re-port V . Which with the updates would be 2-0-6-6-0 . If you check my user name the build thread will show. It actually has lots of great info in it. Before i left it had thousands of views and several hundred replies.

For the past week ive been doing tons of theory crafting and in game testing with the new variation of my build. Once its complete ill start a new thread for it.

Thanks for the idea long arm. I had been toying with that for a while. I’m still not sure its the best use of a sigil spot. My only reservation about ditching guard is now I wont be able to control my pets secondary specials is drake blast,spider immob ECT .

Yeah,ive been messing around with variations of my re-port build. My protection duration is plus 60% . Having close to 80% physical dmg reduction almost all the time sounds fun.

Ive also been looking at ways to drop the shout portion of my build and find a new way to apply swiftness. So I put the swiftness sigil on my dagger off hand. It gives me 100% swiftness uptime…so that frees my trait and a skill up…so its giving me some room to work on Other aspects of the build.

Salutations folks. I’m curious about something and I’m hoping all my ranger peers can help me with the answer.

with things that apply protection on hit do you get the benefit of protection from the hit that caused the proc?

Also the damage reduction is that mitigated or unmitigated and does the Prot amount stack additively or multiplicatively with your existing reduction amount?

Thanks in advance!….my ranger ocd for theory crafting has dug its nails in deep so thanks to all that reply!

Jaxx

Lol I wouldn’t put it past anet to have luck be proximity based…stranger things have happened.

As an up level its not wise to run with the zerg or major operations. All of my level 80s were done exclusively in wvw. Nightly my wvw guild would take the uplevels around the map in a big circle flipping camps. You get tons of exp and wvw exp and you stay out from under the huge zergs.

So coordinate something with your guild to get a group together and run some camps

Hope this helps!

Jaxx

Salutations folks! I’m back to playing gw2 after a bit of a break. But I’ve always kept an eye…or an ear on the game via podcasts and video shows. Well if you’re looking for a source for all your gw info check out the show " talking skritt" on gamebreaker.tv . Its a weekly show that ranges between 1-2 hours and covers all the things we like to hear!

So go check em out!

Jaxx

Its a bug,the devs already came and said the patch screwed up cast times across the board. Who knows when it will get fixed lol

Yep,alot of melee based rangers use that to open or close gaps. In my build thread its referred to as a pop twist.

Ive always hoped they would make both parts of the move a leap finisher. It would really add a new dynamic if you could leap finish twice in rapid succession.

Its a bug guys…it only happens if you have the trapper trait equipped. Of course that doesn’t mean it will get fixed any faster..lol

Well to be honest people complain about the ranger but still to this day I’ve never been beaten in a 1v1 during a wvw roam..with my build I find gameplay exciting and engaging and with all the changes in the year ive been gone things seem better and I’m excited for the future.

Ohhh ok now we are making some progress….stat drop across pieces of gear,any word on how much per piece?

Lol I have a terrible case of ocd when it comes to these things,so thanks to everyone who has helped out. Also..anymore ideas,keep em coming!

Jaxx

I’ve seen this happen quite a bit with thieves and mesmers. And while the player fighting the group is indeed quite decent the main reason for the group failing is a combination of a few things.

1.not being aware of what the class they are fighting is able to do (skills,placement,cool downs)
2. Not playing as a team. So many times I see a small skirmish group fall to smaller numbers because they refuse to work as a unit to achieve a common goal.
3 Not using CC properly within your group…a group of people who blow CC on top of each other or use it at a poor time are destined to fail.
4. Lastly….throttle shock! Ive found that in a fight a group member will panic and run all over when engaged which can go bad in a hurry.

Anyhow,just my opinion.

Jaxx

The theory crafter in me fails to believe there isn’t a work around. So if anyone has some thoughts let me know!

Nope,checked all of that…i wish I could see the old trait trees so I could see if there was a toughness to Condi damage minor or something I’m missing..

Mmm…my buffed numbers dont incorporate might because its not constant. It has to be something else. Right now I’m running ascended neck,rings ,accessories . Settler weps with apoth armor. And the updated base of my re-port build which is a 2-0-6-6-0

Its driving me crazy where this 250 Condi dmg went lol…there has to have been a trait minor or otherwise that converts tough to Condi or the such that was changed.

Hopefully someone will have an idea.

Depending on what you want to do rune of the grove is awesome. Gives great Prot uptime and a 50%chance to root on hit which is great for opening a fight.

The jungle spider..it has ranged attack with poison,ranged Immob and a poison field.

Also the marmaduke dog….that thing is insane..ranged immob,a charge and a KD…sexy sauce!