Guild Wars 2

Guys, we’re not having difficulty with the content, the problem is that it ISN’T FUN. Why should I have to spam three shouts just to remove three immobilises in a row? Why when I’m against spiders and my stability runs out should I be ragdolled, immobilised and then have eggs ejaculated on me? Is this “interesting”? Is this “fun”? No, it’s not.

The CC in this game is over the top, and I’m saying this as someone in full zerk who just facerolls everything. It’s not difficult, it’s annoying.

Why do people keep using the argument that zerker gear users aren’t interested in having fun? Don’t you understand that some people get enjoyment out of seeing massive damage numbers?

But no, bad gear is apparently “more fun” and has “more flair”. You guys just … baffle me.

lethlora.1320:

colesy.8490:

You didn’t even want help, did you?

You just wanted someone to tell you something you wanted to hear/see.

Pathetic.

do you seriously have nothing better to do than be needlessly hostile on internet forums

the poor state of conditions is a legitimate complaint, and “advice” to not use them is not useful to this end

We know conditions are messed up in PvE. That doesn’t change the fact that Brazil gave genuine advice on how the OP can solve his problem.

Also, thanks for reporting my post.

I wonder how many people in this thread actally run in zerker groups, find content easy and know why it’s easy, and how many just run trash builds and think “zerker group” is five warriors doing nothing besides smash hundred blades and everything dies.

Content in this game is easy but it does actually involve co-ordination, and people knowing their

wait for it

wait

ROLES.

The difference is, these roles aren’t predetermined but can be set on the fly and in some cases a player of a different class can take the same role (e.g. guardians can push bosses to a wall like a mesmer can)

No they wouldn’t. On the other hand, if they use RNG crates they get people converting 600g to gems to try to get a skin.

So basically not everyone in your party is willing to pay attention and wants to just shut their brain off for an explorable dungeon which is meant to be for coordinated players.

Sigh.

Literally all you have to do is pay attenion, good lord.

Get rid of that Champion Karka in the southwest first, that’s probably the biggest thing putting people off.

Also:

Borlis Pass 520
Devona’s Rest 521
Eredon Terrace 521
Ferguson’s Crossing 520
Gate of Madness 495
Henge of Denravi 495
Maguuma 426
Sorrow’s Furnace 510
Darkhaven 334
Sanctum of Rall 369
Servers that have done the event once every week or once every two weeks since the Dragon event went live:
Ehmry Bay 256
Kaineng 231
Stormbluff Isle 219
Northern Shiverpeaks 161
Yak’s Bend 137
Crystal Desert 102
Servers that “probably” do the event 1-2 times a week since the Dragon event went live:
Dragonbrand 86
Tarnished Coast 88
Servers that “probably” do the event every other day since the Dragon event went live:
Anvil Rock 52
Sea of Sorrows 58
Servers that do the event on a daily basis (most of the time):
Blackgate 15
Fort Aspenwood 18
Isle of Janthir 18
Jade Quarry 37 Min

You did know gw2 is played outside of NA right?

Top PvE guild? You sound like a bunch of filthy elitists.

It’s trying to stop you from doing something dumb.

Why have one flashy greatsword which changes colour on the time of day when you can just swap to the one you feel like using more?

I wrote a PM to someone yesterday explaining my build for PvE/dungeons, I’ll copypaste it:

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What I originally used is 10/30/0/30/0. In domination, use 15%+ illusion damage, in dueling take phantasmal fury, -20% cd on sword skils, -20% cd on pistol skills (hidden bonus – physical projectiles go from 20% chance of proc on combo fields to 100% w/pistol traiting). In inspiration, you could take -20% cd on glamours, -20% cd on focus skills + focus skills reflect and then either 20%+ HP for phantasms or glamours last longer (feedback, the most imporatnt one goes from 6s duration to 8s duartion, I think veil gets an extra second, null field gets 2s+ as well I think).

Gear-wise, run full berserker everything, and then I used ruby orbs as upgrades in my armour. There is an argument for scholar runes, but % damage modifiers don’t increase phantasm damage, plus you lose the precision from ruby orbs, and mesmers are generally lacking precision. My choice of sigils is bloodlust on my main hand sword and then sigil of battle for my off-hands, again because while might stacks increase phantasm damage, damage % modifiers don’t, they only affect the mesmer themselves, and our weapons have quite weak DPS.

The main reason for using the inspiration tree is so that you can trait your focus, reflects are used to heavily in dungeons (do a run of uncategorised fractal or caudecus’ manor explore and you’ll see what I mean) since it’s so effective at mitigating damage and allowing your team to burst uninterrupted, and since projectiles hit so hard you’re throwing a ton of damage right back at your opponent. So in a fight where you need reflects, sword+focus and sword+pistol will be your ideal set of weapons, in a fight where pure DPS is required you’re better off going sword/sword and sword/pistol since they hit hard and the phantasms have a faster recharge than phantasmal warden which has a channeled attack too (and recharge doesn’t start until the attack finishes).

In a situation where raw DPS is required, I open up with phantasmal duelist, and then when I enter combat I swap to my off-hand sword (giving me 3 stacks of might from sigil), use phantasmal swordsman and then it’s basically autoattack, use blurred frenzy if they’re about to hit you and if they’re about to hit you again then you have illusionary riposte. Immediately when your swap goes on cooldown, use it (now you have 6 stacks of might) and two seconds later cast your second duelist. If your clone from riposte is still alive, it shatters but it’s not a big deal. If the fight is still going on, swap to sword if you want 3 might stacks and a block again, but if not, hold on to pistol, cast a third duelist and then let it override your swordsman. At that point you can just swap weapons for the might stacks and not cast anymore phantasms.

The alternate build I’ve been using is 0/20/0/25/25. You give up on traiting your sword in dueling but you gain phantasmal haste and illusionist’s celerity. Compounding power also makes your reflects hit harder. The advantage of this build is that while 10/30/0/30/0 increases the damage your phantasms deal theoretically, it ignores situations where they are killed. Going 25 in illusions allows you to replace phantasms quicker at the expense of losing 100+ precision, 10%+ crit damage, 100 power and the 15%+ illusion damage from domination and phantasmal haste enables them to recharge faster. An example where this would be relevant is that with the old 10/30/0/30/0, my duelist in CoF p1 would get a burst off, and then just as the slave driver died it would fire off again. Phantasmal haste would have meant it could have got another volley off.

No, I wasn’t being sarcastic at all.

I genuinely find it challenging fighting off the boredom of doing map completion to the point that I actually sold my precursor, bought Entropy, Foefire’s Essence, scholar runes and some pieces of T3 cultural instead.

I highly recommend keeping your PvE and WvW builds separate.

I doubt zerker speedrunners will join an “lfm p2” kind of dungeon run and QQ about people not hurrying up. I do it sometimes myself and I don’t tell everyone to get moving, the only time I say anything is if they’re just playing terrible and/or wiping.

On the other hand, making a group saying “lf experienced zerkers” and getting bads who sometimes aren’t even in zerker gear happens far more often.

I’ve just received three infractions from this one thread so you’re on your own here Proxy.

SweetCream.8051:

Why am I able to go from WvW>Fractals>World Bosses>Dungeons>S/Tpvp, with the same build(0/10/30/0/30 H/LB) and still do well in all of them?
Warriors are OP
Off Topic;
Are other classes the same way?

You play dungeons and fractals with that atrocious build?

it’s in your inventory

Shelledfade.6435:

LOL axe/gs 10k ???

Try 42k thousand blades, with 5k regular axe hits and 10k 4th attack hits with axe.

42000 / 3.5 = 12000

So that means … you’re dealing a little above 12k DPS which makes sense with what GS is used for on warrior, as a burst weapon. Assuming whirlwind is on cooldown or the boss isn’t against a wall (which kinda makes it not worth using) and you have 1.5s left before weapon swap, your autoattack will bring your DPS down much closer to the mentioned 10k since GS auto is terrible. 5k axe auto and 10k final hit is also in line with Guang’s figure since the chain takes 3.6s, 0.1s more than hundred blades.

My goodness, so much ignorance. I give out much more support as a cleric than a zerker. Sucks for you if you decide to run as a zerker, and I build a defensive class, that means you need to change your build because you can’t survive a fight.

No, you actually don’t provide much more support at all since healing power is a lousy stat and your DPS is terrible.

Also, where are these calculations for warrior vs. guardian DPS you have?

Mesmers are easy to find because they’re the one that’s moving while the clones stand still and autoattack while phantasms are clearly labelled and use different weapons. They also stand still.

What I’ve found with my phantasm mesmer is the best way to get me is to spam blinds. If I’m blinded, my phantasm casts “miss” so I don’t even get one, my GS knockback misses and my pistol’s magic bullet misses. Against a shatter mesmer, just pop an invulnerability about half a second after being immobilised to completely negate their burst. Watch for a mesmer’s actual animations, phantasms casts are clearly identifiable so get ready to dodge.

Farming 85 gold will be 500x quicker than farming the mats.

Rangers are solid in PvE as long as you’re not camping range and with bear pet.

lol’d at everyone besides you dying at the end. Think I need to save that link whenever I tell people about “killing a boss before it kills you” when discussing zerker gear.

Play how you want Neko! Play how you want! Why should you people get so mad just because I want to leech off you with my mf gear!

I don’t understand why I have to hear warriors shouting about their adrenalin while players can’t hear my guardian shouts despite the fact that I’m actually giving them a bunch of boons. For example, in the colossus fractal when I can’t carry the hammer anymore I gave the guy carrying it in my party stability but he just waited until the air stopped blowing rather than running forward since there was no audio cue that he could move without being knocked down.

I personally think if you want to give your team mates burst heals, play WvW. Cleric gear is actually useful there, and blasting water fields will heal your whole team a few thousand when you’re regrouping for another push.

For PvE, you can support much better in full DPS gear.

So zerkers are fine but not zerker scrubs? Awesome, that’s exactly how I feel.

A full berserker warrior can go full support if he/she wants. I normally do it in PUGs (if I’m the lone warrior) by going fgj/banner of disci/banner of str and then signet of rage unless the group seems to have decent DPS then I slot in warbanner for the full fury uptime. On my mesmer I have full berserker and can double boons, chain reflects, strip boons, AOE condition removal from phantasmal warden on temporal curtain whirl finisher, apply AOE quickness for DPS increase. On my (you guessed it) full berserker guardian, I can offer projectile absorption/reflection by chaining wall of reflection and then shield of the avenger. I can remove conditions with purging flames or pure of voice. I can give group protection with hold the line, group stability with stand your ground, group swiftness and aegis for skipping sections (retreat). I can make my own fire field and blast it for might. Warrior can blast fire fields with their banners.

Now people will say “but all you’re doing is increasing DPS!”, but isn’t that the point? In a trinity MMO, you have your tank taking aggro so that your DPSers can actually deal damage and not face planting, if they take hits you have your healer to heal them up so again, they’re not face planting. In both the trinity MMO case and in GW2’s case, support is designed around maximising group DPS uptime, it’s just that you’re not forced to take specific classes in GW2 and the roles aren’t clearly defined. Support in the “healing” sense doesn’t come from burst heals, it comes from damage mitigation through aegis, reflects and protection, so rather than bringing HP bars up, you’re reducing the amount they drop in the first place.

And now people will say “but this means I have to re-roll warrior, guardian, mesmer!” and to that I say that most people here have no idea what the meta is. Take your ranger, take your engineer, take your elementalist, take your thief. Geared properly and played properly, these classes can stack might better than warriors. You can deal higher damage than warriors (fiery greatsword rush will wipe the floor with warrior hundred blades, you channel for 4 seconds and deal 300k damage, warrior will do maybe 40k over a 2.75s channel). All of these classes besides engi (tell me if I’m wrong here btw) can absorb projectiles. You can stack vuln better with an engi (in fact you can hold 25 vuln permanently), ranger with spotter/frost spirit is a solid DPS increase as long as you’re using sword/warhorn and a DPS pet. Necro … admittedly lacks enough group utility.

So I’ll say it again. There is a ton of support in this game. If you think that it just requires pressing 1 on bosses, then you’ve probably watched too many speed clear videos where they’re actually using proper skill rotations, switching out utilities between fights and stacking boons so effortlessly that you don’t even notice it they’re doing it so quickly. No, you should not use stats like healing power or boon duration, they’re not needed, but in absolutely any gear you can provide a ton of support. Even a horrifically geared warrior can provide group might, fury, power, condition damage, precision and crit damage increases.

tl;dr we don’t need trinity we already have support

Galtrix.7369:

Dune.2904:

(Sry for the grammar and spelling)
I’m getting more and more fed up with the Guardians I’m meeting in (Speed) Dungeon Runs. The thing is:
I typically run the usual Dungeons CoF 1/2, SE 1/3, TA Up/FF, HotW1 etc. on a regular basis and as my mates and me, are sometimes not enough we add Randoms via LFG. My main class is guardian but I have a Max Gear Warrior and Mesmer aswell. So when we get a Guardian via LFG I usually switch to Mes or War. That’s where I’m getting fed up.
These Guardians (wide range of Achievement Points and/or Equipment) often just add NOTHING to the success of the group. They just roam around there with their GS and deal “damage” using only GS-Skills and F1. Cond Remove? No. Aegis against Power Hits? No. Might? No. Stability? Sometimes. Heal? No way.
Why shouldn’t I trade them in for another warrior? I mean as I have to take Healing Surge instead of passive signet, abort 100Bs to dodge and take Shake it off instead of FGJ anyway I can just have another Zerk War. Because compared to my Guardian (I have a complete Zerk Gear for SoloPVE) my Warrior deals so much more Damage against stationary targets (Mesmer or Corner Pull) with the GS/Axe Weapon Swap Build.
And when you ask them, most of the Guardians who play that way don’t even run Full Berserker Gear. Soldier Gear! Why in god’s name would you play Soldier Gear in a kittening Dungeon Run. Of course you’re going to be a serious bunker but for what? So you can die last when the rest of the group just ripped because of 25 bleeding stacks and a null field on cooldown? Congratulations you can now flame the rest of the party because they died before you. The other ones running Full Berserker Gear often just die first due to the toughness aggro and the low life pool. Why not run Healway and make sure the warriors aren’t disturbed or Knight’s with Boon duration, when the dungeon or the party setup isn’t allowing Zerker. If support isn’t for you, play a warrior kittenit!
I know this is a lot of rant but I just had to write it down somwhere, because in my personal view it has gotten a lot worse over the last months. This has also something to due with the active meta though:
The easiest and fastest way to do most of the dungeons in my opinion still is the 1 Offensive Support (Mes/Thief) 1 Defensive Support (Guard) 3 DPS (Warrior). Which doesn’t mean it can’t be done with other setups that can even be easier but not faster though.

I stopped playing a support guardian and then I stopped playing altogether. Why? Because elitist cretins that have never played an mmorpg in their entire lives kept kicking me from every single pug I tried to go into as a support guardian. They told me berserker or nothing, and I did not want to play that way, so I just quit. If Anet hasn’t changed this utterly stupid elitist system and made other stats useful in dungeons/PvE in general by now, then I didn’t see them doing it in the future so I quit.

You didn’t want to play well so you quit.

And this is why the gw2 playerbase is awful, they like to play badly and not be told they’re playing badly.

Assuming that I play this game with…you know…my friends and the characters they want to play rather than a 1337-PvX-BUILDCHECK-GEARCHECK!!!!-group

You think you’re being funny, but you’re not.

a run of CoF gives me something around 80 silver and takes about half an hour.

I have no idea why a CoF p1 run would take anyone that long unless they literally sat and stared at the screen for 20 minutes.

Gold is easy to make in this game, just run a lot of CoF p1, CoE 1/2/3 and world bosses. If you don’t want to do that, suck it up and realise it’s going to take you longer to get the gold you want.

Anet allows it because they’re useful outside of PVE. PVP is a condition meta, PTV is very popular in WVW for survivability in zergs, but even in WVW healing power has mixed opinions on it, boon duration hardly matters since boons are constantly being reapplied, and MF … well Anet wanted to give us a way to improve our chances of getting better loot, but didn’t properly think it through, hence the changes they’re making to it now.

From a dungeon perspective however (open world PVE doesn’t matter, you can use any old trash there), can you honestly disagree with my assessment of the stats though? And if you do, go stat by stat and explain why, taking in to an account that this hypothetical dungeon party is competent, if not sort of competent.

Player offers advice.
OP ignores advice.

This is why I don’t like helping people.

Black Box.9312:

colesy.8490:

Black Box.9312:

colesy.8490:

Hearte.6852:

MastaNeenja.1537:

Why would you want to spread out?

You need to be near other people to get them up if they go down
combo fields encourage close proximity play
you can dodge while you are stacked, in fact you are SUPPOSED to
If stacking is bad, then so is ranging and kiting

there is no real punishment for clumping up, and don’t expect any dungeon over hauls the deves are too busy planning what Scarlet will do next.

Also see Ethic’s post

/thread over

This post fits perfectly with the mentality that the current system has bred.

Exactly, there is no need to spread out now.

Also, combo fields encourage ranged play as well with projectile/blast finishers, pet/illusion finishers, etc, so that is moot.

Also, if it wasn’t clear, I’m not arguing for strict ranged combat…just to change the current system that rewards skilless play.

If you think this system rewards skill-less play, then I’d like you to compare your average pug melee zerker experience to a dungeon guild speed clear experience, go ahead and watch any DnT, LOD, Kr or rT video, then compare to pugs.

See the difference? Yeah, that’s called “skill”.

I’d hardly call taking advantage of a poorly designed AI system ‘skill’. There are a small handful of fights that involve skill, but let’s be honest: the bulk of the game is far too simplistic to call a simple understanding of game mechanics ‘skill’.

Then get a group of mates together and replicate it yourselves and stop ****ing on people’s efforts unless you can back it up. The difference between organised groups and ‘experienced’ pugs is light and day, and it annoys me when people try to claim the game is skill-less despite the clear skill gap between random pug and obal gandalf solo.

I already did that just today, actually. Ran some stuff with buddies of mine from a major ‘elite’ PvE guild; their tactics primarily revolved around stacking around a corner, using FGS rush into the wall and hoping that the boss didn’t use its one hit kill attack in time.

I wouldn’t consider myself a hardcore gamer by any means, but I’ve been gaming long enough to know the difference between tactics that actually require skill and strategy as opposed to silly gimmicks. Like I said, there are places where such display of skill shines through here, but let’s be honest: the vast majority of the methods used to clear through this game’s PvE content fall within the latter category.

If they’re such a major guild, then name and shame. No speed clearers I know ‘hope’ to fgs rush before dying, they rush, knowing the boss will die before dealing lethal damage to the player wielding it, or they prepare in advance by say, slotting in arcane shield versus lupicus so they can eat a kick should it happen. I can’t even think of many bosses you wall an hope they don’t one shot, it’s almost like you’re keeping your anecdote so cryptic it didn’t actually happen. Here’s my tip, watch alphard and lupicus kills. They don’t require skill? The fact that I can reliably duo (haven’t attempted solo much) alphard is completely skill less? Oh yeah I forgot, hurrrr pve is faceroll, which explains all of the arah buyers and the tryhards running around this forum who try to put down newbies but can’t zerk in a dungeon to save their life.

Hickeroar.9734:

colesy.8490:

Hickeroar.9734:

colesy.8490:

The problem is only a problem when brainless/clueless people believe that zerker is the only possible good armor for any and all activities in PvE

It is.

The fact that you continue to refuse to accept that is … well …

Like I said….brainless/clueless.

And yet it’s the zerkers who have done all of the number crunching proving their gear is the best while everyone else just spews “PLAY HOW YOU WANT”, you know even if it means leeching with bad gear, in the OP’s case, magic find.

LOL. “Number crunching.” NO ONE is denying that you will deal the most damage with zerker gear. Of course you will. That doesn’t make it the best gear for every player in every situation.

It is the best gear for every player in every situation, because the answer is always “more DPS” when you run in to a fight. The only reasons I can think of why someone shouldn’t use it is if they suffer bad lag or if they have some physical impediment that makes it difficult for them to roll out the way every few seconds. In any other case, you’re best off using berserker, and if you haven’t used it before to experiment in open world to get to grips with how much damage you can take.

Seriously, step back and look at how much of an elitist and exclusivist you’re being. Then step back and look at the population as a whole. If everyone who didn’t agree with you left the game, you’d be sitting in a wasteland of a bunch of people that very few people wanted to play with anyway.

If everyone who disagreed with me left the game, we would be left with all of the pvp players, all of the wvw players and pve would consist of competent and wannabe competent people. And I know this might sound crazy, but zerker players are actually friendly. I have a lot more fun bantering away with zerkers (there was even one point where three of us stopped paying attention at subject alpha, started chatting and then we wiped, but even then he had almost no hp bar left, because zerker gear) than getting annoyed at random pugs for doing things wrong, or the worst case is when they’ve never done a dungeon before but don’t state so at the beginning. I don’t mind teaching people, just make it known before we start.

You’re utterly and completely wrong, and it’s blatantly obvious to anyone who doesn’t carry your bias around. I have three out of my five lvl 80 characters in full zerker. I completely understand why zerker is good. I’m just not deluded enough to think that it’s the only good or worthwhile armor in the game.

It’s not delusion, it’s fact. Every other gear is viable because the game is so faceroll easy, but zerker is the only one that’s actually good.

If he’d just make a video or get someone else to make a video he wouldn’t have to put up with people calling him wrong.

But of course what happens instead, is he claims things and then gets mad when people don’t take them face value.

Also, many mouses and keyboards would be destroyed should engi become a part of the meta.

If you believe hard enough in play how you want, your sheer willpower will tank it.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

Ugh they should just remove the zerker stats, and any stats with crit dam % on them. Or just remove stats from weapons all together. Honestly I can’t wait until they revamp the combat system so zerker stats are knocked from their pedestal (but with last month’s “go zerk or go home” farming I have a feeling that will take a while).

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t want ascended gear in the game at all. But I’m happy I got a cleric box that let me choose my weapon. That is much more useful than a cleric’s trident or a cleric’s dagger dropping (or any weapon that I don’t use). While I don’t having ascended weapons, Anet still went a step in the right direction towards making these loot drops better than normal, and people are complaining that it’s worse now than when it was completely random.

And why should zerker stats be “knocked from their pedestal”?

Because you don’t like good stat combinations and are just being anti-meta for the hell of it?

ANet just love kicking us dungeoneers while we’re down. Not only do they not have a dungeon team, they’re actually removing a path.

GG ANet, why don’t you just stick Scarlet in Arah because why the **** not? You don’t give a toss about dungeons anyway.

How about I just make it painfully clear.

You and the amateur from GoD have tried to claim that the outmanned buff makes fights harder. The outmanned buff gives you magic find and no repair bills if I recall correctly.

The point I am making, is that being outnumbered makes fights harder. The outmanned buff does not. You can still gank people if you have the buff on.

In essence, you are both wrong in claiming the buff makes fights harder.

So I’ll ask again, admit you were wrong. I honestly didn’t think WvW players could be this dense.

ilr.9675:

Vanye’s carebear guild doesn’t run this stuff even on a monthly basis.
So he might as well not even be counted as “DOING” the content.

Doing it once, and then rarely ever again is not Replayability. MMO’s are like Rent-to-Own. If you don’t own that part of the content then you really have no credibility in the first place to be giving lectures on it

Vayne’s carebear guild doesn’t even exist.

The thing is that yes, DPS is the way to go if a)you’re in a hurry or b) you want to farm. Since this is a GAME and not a JOB, I prefer to experiment, have fun, look good while I’m doing it, and the haters can sod off.

Or how about if you’re someone who enjoys playing well? Aren’t we allowed to have fun?

I really hate this forum sometimes.

Off-hand axe is terrible in literally every single game mode.

For PvE/dungeons/fractals you’d want off-hand mace, or if your group can stack vulnerability without you (so basically never if you PUG or run with non-dungeon guild guild groups), sword. Roll 30/0/0/10/30 or 30/25/0/0/15, can’t remember the traits off the top of my head but they’re literally just common sense traits to increase damage.

For WvW, I think shield is a nice off-hand to use if roaming, axe is kinda junk in zergs though.

Vol.5241:

I hated this path, could never get it done and it was an all or nothing path (if you screwed up initially on last boss, GL)

Nuking this path is good. Maybe I can finally get my Dungeon Master.

Imagine how easy it would have been to fix your problem by either getting better at the game and actually paying attention or to run in a decent group that can carry you or to buy a run off someone.

No.

/15chars

I’d say it would be quite good if we got a representative from each of the top dungeon guilds and they all decided together (a commitee maybe?) on what would be defined as an exploit and what wasn’t and then future records can be set on those criteria. Only guilds I can really think of though are rT, DnT and LOD though, if you guys can think of a few more (I suppose Define does count).

What will probably happen is either the drop rate on champion loot will suck and will still be a waste of time, or they will be non-terrible and Anet will just nerf it.

It doesn’t involve pressing buttons and hoping to win at all. When I trio’d Arah p4 earlier, our warrior was down and we cleared out the spiders at the opening of the room in to the Grenth boss by chaining blinds and then cleaving down. When we cleared the next mobs it involved reflect and CC’ing the less projectile reliant mobs to interrupt their attacks.

If you don’t like stacking, make a no stacking group.

gracemillian.1908:

I am so tired of this. I don’t have a warrior, I don’t have a mesmer, I only have a ranger and ele, I do not have time to make a level 80 war or mes. Please Anet for the love of god, do something to balance this ridiculousness. I can’t even run dungeons anymore because of people doing this.

Just, PLEASE do something. I enjoy running dungeons, I just can’t do that anymore.

Tired of it? Make a warrior or mesmer. That was one of the reasons I made my mesmer (plus I wanted to try gameplay which was completely different to my guard), and now I can get in to cof p1 farms easy.

But it’s not free, they’re using a utility slot. Why give up 170+ precision and 10%+ crit damage for … is it 170 toughness + 170 vit? Those two stats do nothing. Should I be grateful if there was a banner that gave condition damage and magic find and somebody used that because it’s “free buffs”?

His or your perception of how long it takes is irrelevant, the fact is that a speed clear group will clear a dungeon quicker than a non-speed clear group. In essence:

you can join non-speed clearing group and realize you didn’t actually loose any time clearing the dungeon.

Is wrong. But you’re just using this thread as another platform for your anti-good player attitude, so I’m not sure why I’m even wasting my time arguing common sense issues with you.

“This gear allows me to be lazy” is not a real argument Aomine, try harder.

Rifle is terrible in PvE, doing the dumb comparison of HB to … whatever the rifle burst is I was getting like 26-30k in an awful PUG versus like… 12k off rifle.

This is actually true. GW2 has a trinity: guardian, warrior, mesmer. There is no doubt about the dungeon meta in terms of roles and that would be ‘anchor’ (pseudo-tank), DPS, and util/support. However, the game really doesn’t support it, it’s just humans doing what humans do and looking for something that works. What the game is missing is not necessarily “the trinity” it is meaningful combat roles. Think about any organized human activity from scavenger hunts to brain surgery. It’s all organized around roles. Some GW2 supporters don’t like this fact, but it is a fact nonetheless.

If you think that’s the trinity, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Conjured weapon elementalists DPS hit harder than warriors (300k damage in about 2 seconds? yes please, cram your hundred blades) and stack might with fire fields and blasts. The might stacks are long lasting which is an added plus. Engineer can keep 25 vuln on a boss unlike warriors, and rangers can offer a solid DPS increase with frost spirit and spotter, plus whirling defense even works as projectile reflection.

Mesmers are generally quite replaceable.

The game is not missing meaningful combat roles either, you try speed clearing a dungeon and being responsible for reflects (or group wipes), pulling mobs (or you can’t cleave, so either a hectic battle or even a wipe), stealthing past mobs in TA or Arah with thief or even an engineer blasting combo fields for stealth and more. There absolutely are meanngful roles, you just probably don’t run in a decent group so everyone is doing whatever the hell they want and you’re just blundering through the dungeon.