So rather than tweak the path by allowing the final boss to reset properly they hit the whole thing with a hammer and get rid of it entirely.
The best bit is, we get more of that fascinating saturday morning cartoon villain as replacement.
Zhaitan’s minions are far more interesting than Scarlet Sue.
You stuck four items in to a magic toilet and expected an achievement.
Really now?
Would it help if I said I included it in my report?
No; I’ve heard that before. By legit I didn’t mean “we know about it.” Colin already gave me that lip service. I’m sorry if I seem demanding or ungrateful, but it has been months since the last update on this issue and every single issue that Colin said was being worked on first has been finished and is in the game in one from or another, plus a lot of other stuff. I don’t want “I included it in my report.” I want to know what you plan to do about it, and at least a ballpark estimate of when.
This issue, an oversight that never should have made it into the live release, has been known and complained about for over a year and the development team has addressed similar issues for other player demographics no larger or important than ours. We’re already in year two, and in a lot of ways this game is still in a beta phase with beta, heck, alpha phase problems. The least you can to is tell us if this is even on your radar to be fixed before year three.
Edit: I didn’t pre-purchase this game to wait over a year for “cosmetic progression” to actually apply to my favored class. And frankly I think you guys should stop adding cosmetic content until every profession can actually use it.
And this is why ANet don’t like posting in the forum.
Why didn’t you just make it a fourth path like you did with Arah (giving it four paths versus other dungeons with three)?
Those zerkers die because while they’re doing DPS you’re sitting there leeching in your MF gear.
Good riddance to MF users in dungeons.
The funny thing is, I’m sure if I made a thread saying “help this guy out – need advice” nobody would bat an eyelid.
BUT OF COURSE THE GIRL IS OBVIOUSLY JUST ATTENTION SEEKING
/sarcasm
You’d probably be able to carry pugs better if you weren’t using awful cleric gear. I hope you aren’t an AH guard.
The problem is, if you don’t farm the living story you get left behind while everything escalates in price, and whoever played the other content they did because they enjoyed it is now unable to buy much of anything.
It’s tragic really.
I think WvW is the true endgame.
lol, just lol.
you have to farm for the legendary, but we won’t let you farm (cit. A.net)actually you can by gold with real money using gems
…that’s the whole point of what anet is trying to do. However people will farm basically anything before being forced to use real money.
I don’t mind the MF gear elimination, really. But from there to say that anything that is not Berserker’s is being “selfish”, darn, that’s just intolerance akittens finest.
Toughness – doesn’t contribute to the party, selfish
Vitality – doesn’t contribute to the party, selfish
Healing Power (armour stat) – effect is negligible, waste of a stat
Boon Duration (armour stat) – negligible, useless
Condition Damage – Probably replacing a useful stat, cond damage is weaker than regular damage
Condition Duration – above
Magic Find – anything is better than this, full leech stat
Can’t think of any others. On the other hand:
Power: helps deal more damage to bring enemies down quicker, useful
Precision: increases chance of critical hits, crits do a base of 150% the damage of normal hits so you want crits to help deal damage
Crit damage: Makes your crits stronger, can be infinitely stacked with no worry, becomes very reliable extra damage with precision stacking
MF gear wasn’t “selfish”, it was just another alternative that ANet initially provided
“I will increase my chance of better loot and contribute jack all to the party” seems selfish to me.
OP, stop being a carebear, some stat combinations are better than others.
Yes, please dump them so I can get them cheaper.
I play with myself mainly on weekends.
We don’t need to know when you play with yourself.
Sounds like you just hate berserker gear so I’m finding it hard to take this thread seriously at all. Berserker and stacking isn’t a problem at all since only good groups can do it properly, bad players either don’t use berserker, don’t stack or try to stack in pvt, or try to stack in zerk and faceplant anyway. Annoying anti-good player instabilities just make me roll my eyes, it’s like anet just wish everyone could be bad so they forcefully impose mediocrity on everyone by weakening berserker builds. Things like permanent death until end of instance, death on elite/cap on number of utility skills, wipe forces team to restart instance and exploding enemies are better since they promote good play as you have to time dodges to evade explosions and with limited utilities it requires you to think more about what is strictly necessary for a fight.
Care to elaborate? Or do you consider the forums a place to just post random comments without context?
“World: Southsun – Reduced density of reef skelk around Pearl Islet”
I’m sure the OP was half-joking, but yeah I guess another farming nerf.
I heard going up to a champion and pressing 1 on a ranged weapon is a pretty good way of getting rich.
I actually can’t believe the flak the OP is getting.
If he asked for an option where his party was only for under-80s to teach them the dungeon he would be hailed as a saint, but because he wants to play with likeminded individuals and clear a dungeon quickly he is berated for it. You guys …
Slay an elder dragon, get rewarded with a few silver.
Don’t you just love how MLPtards have to impose their little show over every single internet forum.
What? All I said was that I found Zhaitan’s minions more interesting than Scarlet Sue. I mean the Champ Risen Giant on the Promenade of the Gods has a cool voice, and the high wizard at the end of the event chain does too, plus he wields eternity.
They’re just more interesting than the aetherbores, bad-loot clockwork machines, molten dredge and generic insane villain who just happens to have a famous VA.
OP, why mention this? All Anet is going to do is look at the thread and whack Cursed Shore with the nerf bat again.
I agree with you, OP. The core of the dungeon subforum community have hearts of gold but are simply sick of being told they’re scum of the earth for calling out bad builds for being bad and can’t comprehend the anti-competence mentality of the player base. I’m already at one hour cooldown between posts I’ve had that many infractions and I got another one or two today, so I was thinking of just calling it quits and leaving while still having an unsuspended account so that I can come back if I ever feel like taking more punishment. This fractal issue really was the last straw I think, carebears complain and get immediate response but the moment the dungeon community voices their concern for one issue (so as opposed to the incessant complaining of the casuals) not only do the bads in the forum mock and ridicule us but arenanet don’t even bother to grace us with a response and just remove our posts, and remove/lock our threads.
This champion farming does actually demonstrate how good the event scaling is though – when the event scales up it pretty much breaks escort morale events so that’s maybe something that could be looked in to.
What ANet need to do is give an incentive for completing dynamic events as well as killing champions. I’ve been able to log in for about eight hours altogether since the loot changes, and when I followd the champion train, for the first time since playing the game I felt like the loot was actually good. I was getting plenty of silver, I was getting t6 mats and the occasional core too.
I don’t envy the guy(s) responsible for trying to fix this, but surely there must be some way without “lol daily chest” since dailies just seem to be a cop out for everything – one laurel per day, one chest per world boss per day, 60 dungeon tokens per path, per day, gold reward in dungeons once per day, it just feels lazy.
And just why should we get a free hair style change?
lol, that instance was easy as hell, I just burned through all the mobs.
It turns out that when Colin said TA was a priority for revamp he meant removing a dungeon path.
Please don’t revamp any other paths if this is how you will treat them.
Seeing as I’m constantly just regurgitating the same thing over and over again, I thought it would be better to centralise my build and similar ones in to one thread. It’s going to be a little bare-bones until I get frequent enough access to my normal computer that I can make videos and run tests.
I. Introduction
The phantasm mesmer is a mesmer who is built to surpass any other class in 1v1 combat. This applies to PvP, WvW and PvE. The advantage in using this build in a dungeon however, is that our damage is able to be amplified by our party stacking might all the way up to the maximum which gives us +875 power and condition damage and. Since our phantasms take our precision, critical damage, condition damage and power stats, this enables us to apply even more damage. A mesmer with three fully buffed phantasmal duelists is said to be close to some of the strongest DPS in the entire game.
II. Weapons
The mesmer class has akittens disposal sword (main hand and off hand), pistol (off hand), focus (off hand), scepter (main hand), torch (off hand), greatsword (two-handed) and staff (two-handed). While this offers a lot of diversity in PvP, the general rule for PvE is that you should maximise your DPS.
- “But I want to play a support mesmer!”
- “It would be great if I could play a tank mesmer!”
- “I want to give big heals to my group!”
Maximising your DPS still allows you to support (in fact it lets you support more – more on that later), so diluting your gear by focusing on something like boon duration is unnecessary. “Tanking” as you may know it in other games is not actually possible in GW2 – major factors in determining aggro in this game are proximity, toughness and damage dealt, but in practice, aggro in this game will boil down to just pure randomness. Don’t ever expect to be able to hold aggro for your team reliably, and this is ignoring the fact that “tanking” isn’t necessary in dungeons. Finally, each class is equipped with their own burst heal – again, do not dilute your gear just to try and heal other players. Your healing will also make such little difference that it is not worth building around. Now to weapons.
Staff
Popular in PvP as a strong defensive weapon, applying boons to yourself, evading enemy burst and applying conditions to your opponent through chaos armour and chaos storm. The problem with PvE is that you do not ever need to use a defensive weapon. Chaos armour does not matter since you should not be getting hit, chaos storm doesn’t apply relevant boons or conditions and they’re not applied long enough. The phantasm will hit very hard against a boss stacked with conditions, but your auto attack damage will be pitiful.
tl;dr – strong phantasm, poor abilities. Rating: 2/5
Greatsword
Used in all three game modes. Strong offensive weapon in PvP and WvW with knockback and mirror blade which offers shatter builds fodder to … shatter. In PvE, it is a lot like staff with poor abilities anda strong phantasm. Your knockback is poor because you will be grouping up enemies, not throwing them around, the boon removal is too minor, and you came here for a phantasm build so you don’t need shatter fodder. Even if using a shatter build I wouldn’t recommend it. Your autoattack also gets stronger the further you are away from an enemy, but that takes you out of range of your team’s might and fury stacking. The auto attack is also quite weak. Carry one in your inventory for situations where you have to range, but do not use it anywhere else.
tl;dr – strong phantasm poor abilities. Rating: 2/5
Main Hand Sword
Our strongest weapon by far. Removes a boon on its final attack, applies vulnerability, hits harder on its final attack on enemies without a boon. Blurred Frenzy allows you to keep attacking an enemy while being invulnerable. Having frenzy as our third dodge makes us very survivable in dungeons. While its damage isn’t on the same level as thieves, or the 20,000+ damage an elementalist can pull off with the lightning hammer’s autoattack chain, it’s the best we have. In addition to being our best main hand weapon, it’s the fact that it can be paired with incredible off hands which makes it even better.
tl;dr – Best DPS, useful skill on blurred frenzy, our best main hand by far. Rating: 5/5
Scepter
Used more in condition builds in PvP, the autoattack is weak (and the final attack will overide a phantasm if you have three out), the third skill is weak since confusion is just weak in PvE (unless used as icing, like the duelist shooting through an ethereal field), though a block is alright. Though if you wanted a block you could use off-hand sword.
tl;dr – Weak autoattack which actually reduces our DPS if we have three phantasms out, a fairly useless third ability and a block that’s on another weapon. Rating: 1/5
(edited by colesy.8490)
So many people here are missing why people complained about this path. It’s because the final boss didn’t reset properly.
This does not mean the entire path needed to be removed.
The only thinking involved is “my condi build is useless” and “I need something purely with power main stat then defensive secondary stats … like PVT”.
Though again, the OP crying about PVT gear being useful against objects is just pathetic beyond belief.
You only ever have to grind for aesthetics in this game, getting a full set of exo gear and jewelry is easy and does not need to be grinded for.
ANet doesn’t have a dungeon team.
No, I’m not joking.
He has 16k health because he can’t play very well and has to use defensive gear to compensate for his inability to dodge.
People want trinity back because they don’t realise that support and control already exist in the game, but it’s not their concept of support, which is fall asleep and then occasionally wake up when HP bars fall low to heal.
Things like stealthing your team, putting up blocks, putting up reflects, stacking might and fury, putting up protection, pulling mobs together for group cleaving, chaining blinds on mobs and stacking vuln on bosses isn’t supporting your team apparently, but literally doing jack all and then doing a burst heal like in a trinity MMO is like … loads of support.
It’s good to know that despite fierce resistance from the play-how-you-want defence force, we’re able to get through to some people.
Ugly, ugly armour, running on all fours.
Great looking cultural armour is exactly why I have an asura, human and norn.
Getting booted from an open world PvE group for not having zerker gear is just pathetic.
From wiki:
“The Shatterer, also called the Beast by some Sentinels, is a rank given to a champion of Kralkatorrik. At any given time, there’s only a single dragon of this rank.”The other one must have been on vacation or something.
Other dragons not holding the rank of Shatterer doesn’t mean that they won’t look the same.
What is the role of GS for mesmers, in dungeons ?(and a little bit outside of them)
The role of GS on mesmer is that it helps me spot bads that I can kick.
The sooner people get out the habit of using that dreadful weapon and gimping their builds to play with it (hurrrr boon duration runes my mirror blade is rly good guys), the sooner the quality of the average pug mesmer will improve.
Of course it’s not like it’s only mesmers that are notorious for using ineffective builds, you have shout heal warriors, mace/shield cleric guards, bearbow rangers, p/p or shortbow spamming thieves, flamethrower engis, staff camping “healer” eles, staff camping condi necros and the GS camping mesmer.
I can’t quite put in to words how much I despise these weapon choices and probably the awful builds alongside them in 99% of cases.
Also, the DPS of the iZerker sucks on bosses which don’t have larger hit boxes (so basically almost all of them since ANet just scaled up humanoid models) and missing even one hit makes its damage drop below swordsman and of course it has a longer recharge.
duo’d Arah p4 with durend and white knights kicked us.
I hate this game’s community so much.
They don’t have a dungeon team.
Ranged “support”, as in doing pitiful damage and allowing the melee classes to sponge all of the hits.
What a terrible guardian you had, sponging all of the aggro while allowing the ranged players to just pew-pew away.
Tiny weapons won’t stop me from sticking Sunrise on my asura.
How could standing in one spot mashing some buttons be skill? :P
Well some people do it better than others :p
All those memories of cof warriors using axe 5 on slave driver, eurghhhh.
I totally agree with you, but there’s a tiny problem: warriors can’t do their full burst damage if the target is moving (and that’s why GS is probably the worst weapon for a warrior 90% of times), and PvE is all about damage
Clearly, that’s why the warrior meta build involves a greatsword.
If you don’t let one of the only useful PvE classes do what they were made to do, well, guess you know the answer. Things get ridiculous when people just think about making money and speed runs – and all that “only zerker lvl 80 full exotic” stuff is the consequence
How are speed runs ridiculous? Some people actually enjoy not spending an eternity killing bosses.
And actually, stacking can make ressing even harder. Go fight the Spider Queen, and try to stop and res an ally while the boss is constantly attacking the whole group. There’s hardly any reason to stack imo
How about you stop doing carebear dungeons and give us a real example of stacking being dangerous? You know, like hunter/crusher and being immobilised, about to be one-shotted. Oh wait, most people who talk about stacking haven’t left AC and COF.
FrankGrimeyAlso, in response to the support comment, that’s BS. 1) support helps keep group alive and hitting harder/faster.
MeI’m sick of people playing badly, and I’m sick of them not wanting to improve
This is exactly why I hate teaching PUGs. You support just as well in zerker, and AH builds are trash.
CoE Path 2 and 3. Aplha. It varies but sometimes, its too much too often with the AE he does Support helps there. Just one example.
Support does nothing there because Alpha hits like a train. And the attacks are so clearly choreographed that you’re better off just dodging.
Though carry on proving my point about people not listening.
It’s the play how you want olympics.
I can’t be the only one who finds this extremely suspicious.
No we do not need the trinity, and there are already roles in this game, but people just don’t like them.
If they nerf CoF and don’t give us another way to make money, people will go mental.
Killing the three golems in the mists by yourself doesn’t count as 1 v 3.
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