Guild Wars 2

Face rolling in 1v3 is not easy…nor is it Face rolling, anyone who claims they can take 3 equal lvl players on a ranger consistently is flat out lying..

OP is right and wrong at the same time.
I play a Ranger myself and yes, the damage output of some pets was too high just for speccing 30 in beastmastery and going full heal/tank with the rest.

BUT (and this is a tremendous but)
good players can easily avoid the pet damage and there is nothing you (=the ranger) can do about it , because there is no way to control out pets. Heck, even the command is more like a mild suggestion “Terrifying Howl you say? Uhm just let me finish my channel here and ill get back to you in a sec or two”.
Yeah, it might seem overpowered to stomp 3 braindead potatoes without actually paying attention but complaining about it is a bit like complaining about warrior 100b in pvp because it deals so much damage…

I have dueled some really experienced elementalists as well as thiefs as a BM and lost most fights simply because the pet did not hit them one single time with a seriously damaging attack. I won some with a tricky immobilize → pet swap → stealth → hilt bash → sick em combo which took my enemies by surprise (and of course is super easy to land vs. the above mentioned classes… ), but that was more like a one trick pony and does not work on someone who is expecting you to try this.
Besides that, an ele can kite your pet until tomorrow and thiefs…stealth renders all melee pets useless and s/d can blink/shadowstep all day making it even worse. Record in uselessness holds the raven for being locked in the f2 animation for 11sec because it could not hit the thief.

I would gladly take reduced pet damage in exchange for an advanced pet control or significantly improved ai, but this is just a stupid, mindless nerfbat that shows (again) that the developers dont give a rats kitten about the ranger and people have the right to raise their concerns about this.

The “buffs” on longbow are a joke because it still is a lackluster skillset with bad scaling. Axe 4 is OK i guess but we will see.
Spirits? Yay, one trait merged (in fact a good decision). Does not change the fact that spirits are squishy as hell and can be killed along the way. Even the elite spirit dies in a few seconds if your opponent is smart enough to focus it down first before dealing with you.

Ive long before given up on the idea of using my ranger in PvE/dungeons simply because my guardian is so much more useful in most scenarios, hands down. This nerf also hits the pve rangers, which is totally uncalled for. Whats with all that promises about making rangers more viable in dungeons by eliminating some fundamental flaws? Hey, now we will have a Grandmaster trait that allows us to apply regeneration and swiftness, the most useful boons in a dungeon run. I would totally pick that over Stand Your Ground, Hold The Line or Save Yourselves with Pure of Voice traited and maybe a soldier rune. Oh right, I wouldn’t.

And dont get me started on the short bow.

It just seems so crazy to nerf an AI controlled, unreliable and inconsistent source of damage that can be kited or killed SO easily.

I’m so mad right now.

They’ve consistently gutted builds I’ve come up with.

Nature’s Ninja and BM Bunker for example..

Maybe Jon doesn’t like me cause I called him a bad name

heh

Oh and Pain inverter, can’t forget that one…

Come to think of it…My Youtube channel is a kitten Graveyard of gutted builds.

Hes not overreacting. Every patch, classes like Thiefs and Mesmers get massive boosts or some new ability, we just keep taking hit after hit, sitting on kittens of bugs and crappy pet AI, yet we are supposed to be thrilled with the Ranger being 50% ranger 50% pet. This is gonna continue to happen, I can only forsee regen taking a hit at some point.

I’m sure Jon will bumble into this forum at some point and ask whats up..tell us some crap we already know..promise to fix it.. then leave… while the rangers of this forum spend the next 6 month’s staring a the door before it opens and they get a bucket of water thrown in their face ..

Pet system in general needed a redesign, but Anet is to lazy to do it… and frankly seeing them nerf Moa’s and Pig damage tells me they should just not even visit the ranger forums because they clearly have no clue what is going on.

Krugan.7901:

Has anybody noticed the zephir’s speed swap?

Yes, but since Quickness blows anyway now only Rangers with Bears care

I think you’re confused. Ranger buffs and fixes only include things like new pet icons and underwater combat tuning. After 9 months you should know this already

p/d thieves are the bane of all existence in WvW. Its almost impossible to catch them and equally difficult to get away from them. And they are a condition build, Torment is exactly what they would use.

So, what now? ANet found that some Thieves were still getting caugth, or lose their target? They attempted to fix it before when they buffed the trait to increase speed in stealth to a whooping 50%. And now this.

Yeah this is going to be real fun. Cannot ever catch a p/d thief, and cannot ever escape a p/d thief.
Also, what the hell is up with all these boons/conditions that punish players for just playing the game? Retaliation if you hit me, Confusion if you use any skill and now Torment for just moving. Seems kinda important to get out of AoE and such…

So, next patch we’ll see another new condition? Suffering mayhaps? Deals extra damage if the target stays logged in? Thief exclusive, obviously.

Story time! Gather round the fire folks!

Once upon a time, there was an Italian Prince Wafflefairy was his name. Now this prince he didn’t have many friends. He spent all day picking on his neighbours, never happy with his own life. Always declaring war left and right, never any fun, no royal weddings, no parties, just war war war. His favourite past time was pretending to be a mythical creature, you might know it as a Troll. Where he would send “fake” mistells to people, oh the charming prince that he is. Well one day he got so irate and asked the big bad Worst Commander EU how many troops he had in his army. Not liking the commanders answer, the fairy prince decided to throw his toys out the pram and start accusing all of lying.

It took his mom handing him his dummy to settle him down. They all lived happily ever after.

And all this started from a guild of 5 guys who went to the wrong BL on the wrong afternoon…
Oh boy! TDA guys, just switch BLs next time and stop complaining. It’s not like you can do much on a T3 BL with waypoints at primetime.

On the other hand, last night i killed 15 MS on Eb on a golem suit that i built but never used against a door! It was so fun to see people suiciding to kill me cause they felt threatened at Speldan camp.
Thanks for the loots and also thanks for the great fights in SM to Gandarans.

Dark Lord Killer.9473:

I will not accept it, never, I’m a proud Gladian and will defend our pride till the day I die!

No Dear, you’re a try-hard. A warrior on the forums and a badge on the battlefield.

Turtles. All. The. Way. Down.

HAI TDA.

true, because bashing autohit, when autorunnin blobbystyle gives you much time to write … muahahaaaa

wombatpanda.8165:

Ps: also looking forward to fighting that uncatchable JDGE asura mesmer again

That’s likely Osi. Here’s a tip on catching/beating him;

In the middle of the fight whisper him with “OMG YOU’RE OSI! YOU’RE SO GREAT!!!1!!11!”. He loves a good ego massage, and as a result, tries screenshot all whispers of that nature. Now the clever part; in order to take a screenshot he needs to use a key that isn’t part of the three keys he uses to play his class and kill people. So he’ll stop, stand still and look at his keyboard for a while. At first he’ll literally look for a key labelled “Got Screnshoot”, which obviously doesn’t exist. After about 10 seconds of scanning the keys for phrases like “phooto gud osi1!” and “getz +10r egos” he’ll resume fighting.

If you’ve not killed him in that time, then they’re done for.

egalon.1702:

Did you learn that from AM?
Hoping its getting better tomorrow^^
Ega

Nice picture of the KISS zerg you got there. Same thing aswell JIM nice picture of us in that camp.we always have large numbers on reset we were running between 30-40 KISS plus groups from the smaller guilds LOE and JD who always tag along with us on reset plus the regretable pug quotient. We were all on TS and enjoyed rolling face, but it’s probably a silly idea to post “blob” pictures on reset because like us allot of guilds from all servers run reset night events. not to mention the pugs are out in force for there free stuff and cant be pushed off with a six foot yard-arm haha. keep flame to a minimum guys and enjoy the fun. Miller’s, you guys got cojones makes a change from your cousins RIVERHIDE and BLOBODONS MOUTH. /salute.
Gandara we missed you lots lets paint the place with blood this week.

ANet, on behalf of the EU ladder, please lock this tier for eternity.

Hang in there AG, praying that Anet can somehow make their RNG match us up again. Or perhaps with BNF’s server, that would be a nice reunion as well

This thread is even more entertaining than our matchup thread. How glorious.

Dream matchup for most of us(Piken) these days i think would be Gandalf and AG, just for the type of play we all like to have. You guys wouldn’t have to worry too much score wise coz we’d be enjoying ourselves in battle too much to cap useless keeps/towers. People who play for the points/war are playing the wrong game, it’s the fights that make it worth playing.

Actually had quite a bit of fun today, there were some small AM groups around to fight with, so thanks to those

I’m sadly really bad at remembering names, but good times were had!

@Uttar yeah that would be very frustrating, but I’m afraid to admit that strategically Gandara doesn’t really think things through, at all. Sorry for generalizing here, but we’re a bit like the Joker in batman. Or in GW2 terms, a skritt, oh look a shinie let’s get it!

Dropper.9176:

Players of Gandara, Aurora Glade and Far Shiverpeaks , could you please stop to listen to Justin Timberlakes " Cry Me a River " while playing W3 ?

Even the Army fights hard to save the German Citys from the floods caused by all your Tears.

What you just wrote means the tears are only flowing in Germany.
Do you troll yourself often ?)

The biggest problem, and it comes up again and again, is that we are balanced around 100% pet uptime with 100% pet hit rate. Anyone who actually plays a ranger knows that those are more likely 20-50% at best, so we’re kitten from the outset.

When someone finally eats some damage from the pet, they’re so upset by it that they come screaming to the forums over it. Add to that the simple truth that ALL gw2 balancing has been done around freaking PvP, and you have the clusterkitten that Rangers and Elementalists have to deal with.

thefantasticg.3984:

Daecollo.9578:

Ranger is actually one of the strongest classes.

You can’t complain until you see everything they have done, and honestly Pets are doing way too much damage when they hit there target.

They are probably going to reduce damage by 25-40% and allow them to move while attacking.

However you know something is wrong when they do more damage then a full zerker warrior with there greatsword autoattack by almost double.

Please QFT. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about in an extreme way. Just stop. I have played both zerker lvl 80 ranger and war, and the ranger’s pet puts out NO WHERE NEAR the damage. None of the pets do. My war can crit for so much more. Ranger is the strongest class? You are either trolling or an idiot to such a severe degree that you should be studied by medical science to determine if it is a new unknown medical condition of radical impeded learning ability in a human being.

Seriously, people should stop responding to him. He’s a troll – 90% or more of his posts are pure trolling of the non-warrior forums. The only reason he hasn’t been banned from the forums is that’s he’s not rude – just stupid.

Daecollo.9578:

Ranger is actually one of the strongest classes.

You can’t complain until you see everything they have done, and honestly Pets are doing way too much damage when they hit there target.

They are probably going to reduce damage by 25-40% and allow them to move while attacking.

However you know something is wrong when they do more damage then a full zerker warrior with there greatsword autoattack by almost double.

Please QFT. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about in an extreme way. Just stop. I have played both zerker lvl 80 ranger and war, and the ranger’s pet puts out NO WHERE NEAR the damage. None of the pets do. My war can crit for so much more. Ranger is the strongest class? You are either trolling or an idiot to such a severe degree that you should be studied by medical science to determine if it is a new unknown medical condition of radical impeded learning ability in a human being.

(Part 2)

ANet knows this, and for that, they sell MF boosts and even included a nice little permanent 200% MF bonus on the southsun event (and a pathetic gold find boost… why? Even if it made millions, you can’t buy the skins with money).

And then, on the other side, you have diminishing returns, which start becoming evident within less than 1 hour of play and you nerf farming spots whenever they’re found. I’ve done enough farming since this event started to start noticing the patterns in the DR system, and when I start “fresh”, with almost 400% MF, I find something in almost every drop. A green, a T5 material, a blue… something. Almost no junk or whites. Before an hour elapses I’m starting to find junk or nothing in most kills. This is consistent behavior. It hasn’t just happened “once” or to myself only. You sell 1 hour MF boosts ffs, and your DR kicks in before that…

And we have dungeons… You need hundreds of tokens for each piece of gear, each run gives you around 66-69 tokens, and you only get rewarded for each path once a day per character…

And I haven’t forgotten “Ascended”. Originally designed to appease the vertical progression crowd along with fractals, they’re slowly bleeding into the rest of the world and, as BiS, forcing you to keep up… No, 5 to 10% stat increase is not kittening trivial in WvW…

This is all from the company that said, and I quote: “We do not make grindy games”. Really now? What game are you making then? Cause I’d love to play it.

So, Arena Net, what do you want? You need to decide on where you’re going with your game’s design… Do we have to grind or not? If you want us to grind, then you can’t also punish us for grinding. If you don’t want us to grind, then you can’t force us to grind to acquire content…

Personally I’d prefer it if you stuck to your original statement, the one that lured me into the game, of no grind. That’s my thing, and this is your game. But if you do want to have grind, then you need your game’s mechanics to accommodate it.

Cheers.

All servers blob, but the big difference is FSP/Gandara/AG blobs are 95% puggie blobs and in all the screenshots you can see there is never more than maybe 3 people from the same guild. Every home BL and EB has puggie blobs. It is NOT a German thing because MS were awesome fun to fight with a mix of guilds and puggie blobs.

Gandara did the Viz #2 “YOLObus” 100 man blob on every map 24/7, won tier 3, people did 30 hours of sitting in keeps refreshing siege and laying 300-500 pieces a day, 30 hour long sessions commanding, the hardcore every day WvWrs learned very fast that as a server we just want fun fights, we don’t care if we win or lose match-ups, you get NOTHING for it cept PvD’d to death in higher tiers. It’s not fair on those stuck in keeps refreshing siege – everyone deserves fun. We don’t think we are better/more skilled, we don’t care about getting to number 1 EU server – we just want a fun time with lots of fights. 70-90 man blob allows only 1-2 fights per map

Typical night in WvW for anyone vs AM/RS =

- Get 5-30 people online
- Run to first supply camp
- Meet 70 man blob, get wiped
- Respawn
- Run for tower/keep
- Find enemy group of 40-50
- Try to engage
- Enemy runs and hides in tower/keep
- Hang around for 10 mins running circles hoping they will come out to fight vs 15 people
- Get bored when they don’t
- Go for ninja op up north
- Steamroll over 1 person
- Check northern towers
- PvD tower
- Cap nearest supply
- PvD keep as 90 man blob is on other side of the map
- Meet 90 man blob with 2 × 25+ man guild groups hiding inside it
- Try to run around kiting to draw one of them out for a fight – fail
- Call for support
- 3 guilds blob together to wipe enemy blob with clever use of 1 spam while crying about lag and slide shows
- WP and split from other groups to avoid lag/slideshow/crashes
- Spend 2 hours running around looking for a fight which doesn’t involve 150+ people.
- Fail
- Get bored of “Hiking simulator 2013”, go to bed

Compared to a typical night agaisnt FSP/AG/Piken/MS (and BB <3 but they have some bigger community guilds) style servers =

- Get 5-30 people online
- Run to first supply camp
- Meet 30 man guild group
- Have awesome fight lasting 20 minutes rally 3 times, eventually win since it’s your spawn
- Run for tower/keep
- Find enemy pug group of 40-50, wipe them after a great fight
- Ninja gate down and find 3 groups of 15, 20 and 40 inside all spread out
- 3rd server comes in with 3 groups and theres now 8 different groups of all sizes battling.
- Engage in epic different battles for 1 hour all over different parts of the keep
- Die after many amazing fights
- Go for ninja op up north
- Find 8 man guild group – wave at them and run past while telling your small guild group of 7 who you just passed that there is a fight for them
- Check northern towers
- Meet 10 man brave guild group who throw themselves at you for a fight even though they are less numbers, wipe them and /salute their bravery
- Read map chat to see 3-4 of your other groups all having fun with fights all over the map both wiping and being wiped
- Meet 25 man group and engage in epic fight for 20 minutes, win
- Cap nearest supply
- Meet another 20 man group engage in epic combat for 20 minutes, wipe
- Respawn
- Run straight back to find that same group again because that was one epic fight and you want to try different tactics to challenge yourself.
- Find another one of our guilds fighting them and sit and watch the epic fight.
- Meet same 10 man brave enemy guild group who came to watch the fight also, wave, take tonics, have dance party while watching the fight.
- Get more beer, find more fights

90% of Gandara chooses option 2 to fight agaisnt and try to be, wipes and points don’t matter. AM have many skilled groups with lots getting better and better by the day, some are/will eventually turn to the “darkside”/“wrong way to play” in option 2.

New contribution from Blobbie Mercury!

Is this the real life?
Or is this fantasy?
Caught in a blobfight
No escape from reality
Open your eyes
Look up to the blob and seeee…
I’m just a poor boy, i need no sympathy
Cause i easy blob, easy go
A little high, little low
Anywhere the blob goes, doesn’t really matter to me… to meeeee.

Mamaaa, just killed a blob
Put an AC against their head
Spammed my autoattack, now it`s dead!
Mama, wvw had just begun
But now i’ve gone and wiped them all away
Mamaaa, Ooooo (anywhere the blob goes)
Didn’t mean to make you cry
If i’m not back again this tomorrow
Blob on, blob on, as if nothing really matters.

Too late, my time has come
Send conditions down my spine
Body`s stunned all the time
Goodbye everybody – I’ve got to go
Gotta leave you all behind and spawn at waypoint
Mamaaa, Ooooo (anywhere the blob goes)
I don’t want to die
I sometimes wish i`d never been blobbing at all!