Guild Wars 2

I don’t know why this hasn’t gotten any comments yet, So I’ll be the first.
Loved the music selection (The Weeknd) <333333
You’re definitely one of the better Thieves i’ve seen to make videos. Nice watching you fight some of those outnumbered. I look forward to more.
Some of your skill selection and timing were a little iffy, but not here to criticize, good video
- Beautiful Necro & Ranger 2v1 that was a highlight

Axelwarrior.9084:

How is a non-stealth weapon set “low risk” for a thief?

It is Low risk because the evade it produces. S/P is High reward/Low risk set. If the Thief was full beserker armor and orbs, etc and S/P. The Sword and Pistol is High reward/ low risk, but the build itself is High reward/High Risk.

Dustfinger.9510:

OP: This isn’t a-nets fault. It’s QQers who unreasonably expect a thief to stand there and block their swords with your face.

I never said this was Anets fault. I simply said I was tired, and then after explained what it was I was tired of. Don’t be smart.

If you’re built for damage, then that’s cool, you just better be able to handle the risk that comes with that power. "With great power, comes greater risks. " So if you want to complain about being one shotted then switch your build around so you’re actually able to sustain damage done to you. If you can’t take what you yourself dish out, then you have no business getting mad.

I don’t think there were any clips of duels with me there =(

Yes it is true I don’t know how it feels like to be on the receiving end, All I have played was a Thief. But what I do know is if you’re so ballsy to run a High Risk, High Reward G.C Build, and complain<—(I’m not trying to offend anybody when I say that) about being 1 shotted, than I’d advise switching up your build to accommodate better survival, and not just fast kills. If you’re an Ele with 12k hp, and get backstabbed for 13k, that is your choice, and vice versa if a Thief wants to run a 12-13k hp specced G.C it’s of thief choosing.
~I would suggest talking to Serane from Agg, He is ONE of the best ele’s (I know), and have experience fighting as a Thief.

When you get stuck with an Immobilize , for a half a second you are unable to use any 1-5 skills. Annoying bug.
I see it and experience it when hit with a LB warrior immob skill, and I am a Thief.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Stop standing on unpathed terrain. A good way to imagine where you can go with it is by asking yourself, “could an NPC walk there?”. If so, you should have no problems. It’s when people try to infiltrator’s arrow through walls, onto ground from atop buildings (or vice versa), etc. If you understand how shadowsteps work, you’ll have a much better time.

Your siggy <3 hahahah I lol’d. “please nerf rock”

Thanks for the feedback peepz

SoLeciTO.3490:

Hi AikijinX,

This is Payan, you show me how to play some time ago. i’m really happy that you still have the same sharing spirit. i must try this build!

Best regards my friend, this is what community needs instead of people crying all the time.

I always try to give back to my community ^^ Tell me whether you like it afterwards. :]

RedSpectrum.1975:

I was having a relatively good day til you posted that thread brother,and I don’t even SP

I’m sorry that I put a damper on your day

WonderfulCT.6278:

AikijinX.6258:

I don’t understand why most all Thief weapon sets get QQ’d and raged about. And I said “Most” not all.

Huh?

Did you not understand it that way. Let me rephrase then. “I don’t understand why most Thief weapon sets get cried over and raged about”

bobomb.5209:

I think the real problem is that thiefs get access to a mechanic no other class has access to, wants, and is quite deadly. No it’s not stealth but the ability to spam a certain skill with no CD.

Say what you want but that’s just my opinion

I have no criticism here, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. And yes I do agree that the problem is the 1-5 skill mechanic, and the Spam. These weapon sets cannot separate the high tier skilled from the average, solely due to the fact that you’re using a specific weapon set. And “That’s the only reason he/she won”. it’s tiresome to look at posts like that.

I don’t understand why most all Thief weapon sets get QQ’d and raged about. And I said “Most” not all.

Pistol/Dagger -Condition Spam cheese “(P/D Thieves are so cheese)”
Dagger/Pistol -Perma Stealth (Which is justifiable to an extent)
Dagger/Pistol -Perma Blind
Sword/Dagger – Perma Evade, too much base auto attack damage output
Sword/Dagger- “Larcenous Strike boon steal OP”
Sword/Dagger- “Infiltrator Strike/Return so Cheese”
Sword/Pistol- Perma Evade/ High reward/Low risk
Sword/Pistol Semi-perma Stun/Daze lock
Shortbow- Evade,Evade, Evade

The Only sets that has yet to be talked about continuously and cried about are D/D and P/P. I just don’t understand why I hear more talk about Thieves weapons being overpowered than any other class. All I hear is " He’s using (Insert Cheese Weapon here), thats the only reason that Thief won"

I was reading the Pistol whip comments in Structured PvP, and I just had enough, and decided to make this thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Pistolwhip-Nerf/page/3#post3720703

I have over 3.3k hours on my Thief. I’ve seen it all and heard it all. Thief is my only class since beta. I get so cheesed seeing so many people cry over Thieves weapons sets, and then Anet starts noticing, and then there goes another incoming Thief Nerf. What should we do fight with our fists? I don’t play S/P Thief, I play P/D. But i have experienced and used all the sets. I have excelled in most all of them. In my opinion Thieves weapon sets are the most controversial than any other classes. (And yes I know it’s controversial due to our no CD’s but rather Initiative system). I just wanted to get my thoughts out. If any of you agree with me, than that’s cool, if not then feel free to post QQ here. I will hold your hand.

I don’t understand why most all Thief weapon sets get QQ’d and raged about. And I said “Most” not all.

Pistol/Dagger -Condition Spam cheese “(P/D Thieves are so cheese)”
Dagger/Pistol -Perma Stealth (Which is justifiable to an extent)
Dagger/Pistol -Perma Blind
Sword/Dagger – Perma Evade, too much base auto attack damage output
Sword/Dagger- “Larcenous Strike boon steal OP”
Sword/Dagger- “Infiltrator Strike/Return so Cheese”
Sword/Pistol- Perma Evade/ High reward/Low risk
Sword/Pistol Semi-perma Stun/Daze lock
Shortbow- Evade,Evade, Evade

The Only sets that has yet to be talked about continuously and cried about are D/D and P/P. I just don’t understand why I hear more talk about Thieves weapons being overpowered than any other class. All I hear is " He’s using (Insert Cheese Weapon here), thats the only reason that Thief won"

I was reading the Pistol whip comments in Structured PvP, and I just had enough, and decided to make this thread.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/Pistolwhip-Nerf/page/3#post3720703

I have over 3.3k hours on my Thief. I’ve seen it all and heard it all. Thief is my only class since beta. I get so cheesed seeing so many people cry over Thieves weapons sets, and then Anet starts noticing, and then there goes another incoming Thief Nerf. What should we do fight with our fists? I don’t play S/P Thief, I play P/D. But i have experienced and used all the sets. I have excelled in most all of them. In my opinion Thieves weapon sets are the most controversial than any other classes. (And yes I know it’s controversial due to our no CD’s but rather Initiative system). I just wanted to get my thoughts out. If any of you agree with me, than that’s cool, if not then feel free to post QQ here. I will hold your hand.

Thiefsmer spec (4 months old)
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thiefsmer-Revamped/first#post3208933

~This is not in my point of view, the recording was done by coloxeus, the D/P Thief. I am the P/P.

RedSpectrum.1975:

I understand that this is a PvE WvW build but im going to toy around a bit with a buddy of mine in the Heart of the Mists since that’s the next best thing to spending actual gold (Gearing my newest 80 soon be sure to check out my siggy soon still a thief at heart though ). A couple things that I’ve been wondering about though. Shadow Refuge is indeed a source of Lifesteal, but it’s usually used as a final trump card. Now, with a normal stealth build, you could get all benefits from Shadow Refuge; you gain the stealth and regen then attack with a powerful stealth attack when you feel comfortable. With though it seems that you have to choose one or the other, stealth or lifesteal (I mean I’m sure you can place it in front of you and shoot through it but that may not always be an option). So my friend, what do you use Shadow refuge for mainly?

Also, obviously you chose Descent into shadows for WvW so it goes without question that you’d go for Power of Inertia as an alternative, but what I find interesting in the Trickery tree is that you chose long reach. Why? I’m not saying you made a poor choice but on paper P/D is ranged but not long range, and you’ll want to be within a decent range anyway to get CnD’s off. So I would think a normal steal range would suffice, not to mention if one went with Thrill of the Crime you’d get bonus condi damage and Fury increasing your crit chance even higher.

Superior sigil of Air I can see for the damage, but why not Superior Sigil of Blood to go with your theme of a vampiric thief? You’ve chosen to invest resources to Precision so that would benefit from it I would think, and add more Health Siphons to your siphon build.

Overall, these weren’t criticisms just questions I wanted cleared up to understand the mentality behind some of your choices. The build looks really innovative, wish necromancers had something like it since they are supposed to be vampire like. Looks really fun, oh and one last thing, Shortbow will get two sigils soon, what is the second you’d plan on using?

Thanks for the questions, I do love to answer, and just give people the thought process behind my choosing of my abilities, equipment, etc. So First

- Now Shadow Refuge is important to this build because it gives the user an alternative life steal source. Yes Shadow refuge is used for numerous situations. I do not denounce that. How I use my shadow refuge is not ONLY just to life steal. I use my refuge to full effect. If I need to wait for a CD, or regen hp, of course I will not choose to life steal through the refuge oppose to just regening in stealth. I usually use my refuge when I know my opponent has nothing left, and are below 50%. I will not use my refuge and shoot into when my foe is above 70%hp that is not wise at all. (Please look at my “To be a Thief” thread down below.)

- Descent of Shadows is always great to have equipped, never know when you have to use your environment to your advantage. Now I chose Long reach trait because it is very valuable. Higher tier thieves know this, Amonatory, Triggerless, etc. We all use Long reach, solely due to the fact that you can attack your opponent at a deceivingly longer range. The one who attacks first is King. So you will always have the better advantage. This trait is great for when you need to chase, or get away. People overlook this trait alot, and that’s what separates the logical high tiered thieves from the power hungry fast to react non thinking thieves. Use your traits to the fullest extent.

-I chose superior sigil of Air and not blood because for one, my Air damage proc’s an extra 1.2k. And pretty frequently. I don’t switch weapons as often when I am roaming. P/D will be my main source of damage, short bow is to get away, or chase. If i were to use a sigil to life steal. I would use Sigil of Blood. Which is ALSO what I will be equipping for my short bow when the 2 sigil on 2 handed weapons update comes around.
-
“To be a Thief” – https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/To-Be-A-Thief-1/first#post3639885

ryan.6217:

Wow super impressed with the layout of this build… once im done getting my ascended dire I’ma have to try this out. looks too fun

Thanks my man!, This is a solid build, Invested alot of time into theory crafting it to perform how I want it to perform. I hope you took a look at the different pictures. One with Ascended Celestial and the other Exotic Knights. Thanks for the feedback ^^

/Discuss
Has anyone tested. I would love the feedback

Shirts.3275:

AIKIJIN d00d <3
I’m liking the stat spread on this build mannn. Might try this outtttt

SHIRTSSS<3
Dope bro!, Tell me if it works for you if you try it out!

You are still able to complete a full backstab while in stealth. Just need to precast backstab (autoattack) and then steal immediately. I am from sea of sorrows

IGN:Aikijinx

I would like to see you in game. Btw incase you were wondering Thief is the only class I play, and have over 3.3k hours.

Reikou.7068:

Is this the build you were running when we dueled a while ago?

I don’t really remember our duel.., Do you remember which gear I was running. Green or white gear?, And if it was my white gear, I have made changes to the build since then.

So apparently my comment was deleted and i was given an infraction lol…

Anywho~ The fact that you popped I.S and Steal nearly at the same time makes me questions why? Can you explain?
You also Shadowshot then steal right after? I don’t understand this.. You waste 3 back stab combo’s

Stealth>IS>backstab
Stealth>Steal>backstab
Stealth>Shadow shot>backstab

Yet you choose to pop both CD’s at the same time at various times during the clip. I saw it prominently during your fight with engie.

RedSpectrum.1975:

Interesting enough but then my main questions are: Would this be considered a power build or a condition damage build? Maybe even Hybrid? The answer to that goes to my next question of why you went with celestial instead of choosing armor that directly benefits you. Even more interesting is why you have Traveler Runes which tells me, or actually doesn’t tell me where the main damage comes from :p but it looks interesting, I hope we get to see it in action

Good questions!

~This is my Hybrid build
~Travelers runes, so it can free up a slow for Spider venom (Look at my life siphon sources above)
~I offered a Celestial ascended and Knights exotic alternative. They both hold the similar stat make ups, But I am running with Celestial as a main armor set due to the fact that It gives me extra vitality, rather than pure knights, that gives lower HP pool but higher armor rating. Celestial gear just balances my stats out. On another note. I didn’t want an ascended set that I would just want to have sit in my inventory. So i picked a universal gear setup.

~Now i’ve been putting off when I should and would actually release this build, but I think the time is now. I recently completed my Ascended celestial all stat armor.
Please note: Before I was running Celestial gear (Which was my end goal), I was using Knights gear. Which works equally as well, and actually even better due to the extra armor rating 3.1k+

-Build Focus: Life Steal
Sources of Life Steal
-Leeching Venom trait(Spider Venom, Bassilick Venom)
-Shadow Refuge(Field:Dark- Meaning It will siphon/steal life from your opponent)
-Shadow Refuge+Spider Venom combo
-Omnomberry Ghost food
-When dual sigil on 2h weapon comes around :S.S of Blood w. perception on my Shortbow

First Engagement
Start your initial attack at a range that your enemy might not suspect you may attack from: (Long Reach trait)
-Equip Spider Venom
-CnD+Steal Precast—-Sneak attack
-Shadow Strike—Then Move closer in
-CnD—Sneak Attack, etc..

Notes
~Gain extra Vitality and Bonus;s with WvW buffs (Bloodlust/Defense against Guards/Guard Leech)
~I often forget to switch to my stacking weapon, so I put a stacking Sigil on both of my sets.
~Depending on how tough or how much critical chance you want, you can swap your rings between Rampagers’, and Cavelier’s
~This build is meant to survive and sustain some damage

~Please refer to “To Be a Thief” Thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/To-Be-A-Thief-1/first#post3639885
And
~“Psychology Of a Thief” Thread
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Psychology-Of-A-Thief/first#post3855072

~Down Below are pictures of the stats I run with Celestial Gear/ And Knights Gear. Essentially they both serve the same purpose, one’s more tanky, the other holds greater H.P

Build Calculator
Updated Traits 10/0/30/0/30
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQNAqYVlsMp7plOxoJ8PNRw9wpQtpePK7YNrWBaC-zUCBIgBCXEkiIQEFgJqFRjtMsIasKZCp6aYaYROAACghO0he0je0IFg5CjA-w

Original still viable trait setup
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vYAQNAqYVlsMp7plOxoJ8PRRw9wpQtpeKK7Y1KQzuCRF-zUCBIgBCXEkiIQEFgJqFRjtMsIasKZCp6aYaYROAACghO0he0je0IFg5CjA-w

RedSpectrum.1975:

AikijinX.6258:

RedSpectrum.1975:

AikijinX.6258:

ShadowNinja.1238:

AikijinX.6258:

kitten bro you beat serane a couple times. 2pro2goplzshow. Show me how to play thief =\

It’s ur thief build for p/d though….

Thiefsmer? ahh. I see i see. Wait don’t i know you in game

I thought your build was P/P….

Converted and remodeled it for p/d

What are your reliable interrupts now?

It’s just steal, but thats all you need, the build itself is strong enough. Can max up to 2400+ condi damage, 60% duration, 19-20k hp, 3-3.1karmor

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Thiefsmer-Build-Video-Edited#post2745036

RedSpectrum.1975:

AikijinX.6258:

ShadowNinja.1238:

AikijinX.6258:

kitten bro you beat serane a couple times. 2pro2goplzshow. Show me how to play thief =\

It’s ur thief build for p/d though….

Thiefsmer? ahh. I see i see. Wait don’t i know you in game

I thought your build was P/P….

Converted and remodeled it for p/d

They rescinded the 4 sec reveal in WvW. It will not happen again. It was a failure

ShadowNinja.1238:

AikijinX.6258:

kitten bro you beat serane a couple times. 2pro2goplzshow. Show me how to play thief =\

It’s ur thief build for p/d though….

Thiefsmer? ahh. I see i see. Wait don’t i know you in game

kitten bro you beat serane a couple times. 2pro2goplzshow. Show me how to play thief =\

Haha I know both of you in game too ;D

I concur running sigil of fire/force would be a more suitable duo set for roamin/havoc purposes.
I for one am going to be running on P/D(Air/Bloodlust) SB(Bloodlust/Leeching sigil) Will work perfectly with my build synergy. And yes I love getting stacks and I often forget to switch to my weapon stacking set, if I only have 1 stacking sigil on a set. So i just put it on both ;D /gg

Travlane.5948:

AikijinX.6258:

I main a build with rampager trinkets and weapons right now. It’s a life steal build. I still have yet to release, and put it on forums though. I’ve been so lazy.

this is what ive been doing too…“TRYING” to do anyway.

i run vampire runes….the 10% mist thing is gr8 and helps me save when last refuge goes off and is like a free kill.

swap leech sigil runes..

i cant seem to work any points into power traitline

I can let you know my build just need to whisper me when im logged on. It works well, Can hit and survive. Well if you play correctly.

Mice.8921:

AikijinX.6258:

I main a build with rampager trinkets and weapons right now. It’s a life steal build. I still have yet to release, and put it on forums though. I’ve been so lazy.

I can testify that this build works… I was dueling him in WvWvW last night… vicious thief build… (Zonyx)

Yeah man, it was tough fighting you with DS.. Got me so mad lol…. But yes the build does work. Your warrior friend can also testify to my build :p

I main a build with rampager trinkets and weapons right now. It’s a life steal build. I still have yet to release, and put it on forums though. I’ve been so lazy.

I to this day have no IDEA why shortbow’s range was nerfed. It was a very poor decision. Leaving thieves at a disadvantage when trying to take down siege, etc.. Infiltrator’s Arrows cast time needs to be instant, for the time it takes to cast the arrow, and THEN the actual arrow moving through the air, I have already closed in to about the same spot I was teleporting towards. The cast time is even worse during Lag. Fix the cast time, make it instant.

Amonatory.2453:

My philosophy of thief is to just be pro.. and yolo. Alls we can do

Go HAM philosophy is part of Life.

babazhook.6805:

I took every class but the Engineer to 80 (I still work on that). I play 80 percent of my time on the thief.

It just fun. It the immersion factor. It like every choice made as to what to do next a telling one. It my defining how my character will fight a given battle rather then the Cooldown times on my skills telling me what to do next.

THAT is what those other classes feel like much more then the thief. Wait for a skill to come off cool down then use it again. Thief play immerses you much more in the fight itself in my opinion.

Yeah man playing a Thief definitely immerses you into playing a different style of game play, more fast pace, and active in your face. This is why I continue to play Thief and have not grown tired yet. over 3.2k hours and still haven’t reached my peek yet.

We can reduce shadow refuge CD even more

I can’t believe people still cry over stealth. It’s been over a year. Haven’t they realized Stealth is given to Thieves at a young age.. I swear it’s either Stealth QQ/Too much Damage QQ/ or Too much Evade QQ

These QQ threads need nerfs themselves

RedSpectrum.1975:

My love for thief is probably why I can’t get into warrior. I alt a necro and even then it’s better imo than warrior. I feel as though warriors have a class that does all the work for them. My necromancer I plan moves ahead to keep conditions up and stay alive, but what I love most of all about the thief is that I feel like I’m playing in “real-time” if that makes sense. Since we have no CD’s on main skills, we can evolve our tactics as a fight is constantly evolving, to get better, you need to learn how to evolve faster than the fight.

OT: I disagree with your siggy AikijinX, I feel pretty safe in Lion’s Arch :p

You’re not safe there either!, but yes I so agree. and I understand what you mean with real time game play. I also have experience with that feeling too. I for one have over 3.2k hours on my Thief. It is my only class I leveled and been and stuck by it through thick and thin.

Didn’t you know teefs are invulnerable in stealth?

Geiir.7603:

sierras.6297:

A thief is a master at the game, but doesn’t realize it. (Try playing thief for a year and a half, then playing guardian. It is not as fun, and it is very easy in wvw.

I have done my best to enjoy all the other professions in this game, but none came close to thief. The tactical thinking and careful planning of everything is what made me fell in love with the thief. I get bored really fast when playing other professions, and I find them easier to play for some reason..

Well written by OP! I completely agree!

Thank you my friend

Heizero.9183:

I don’t over analyze it. I just go HAM.

Go HAM but also be aware.

I have a hybrid spec that I have been working on. It’s a custom made trait setup. Works around P/D. I will release it in a couple days. 10/0/30/10/20

sierras.6297:

A thief is a master at the game, but doesn’t realize it. (Try playing thief for a year and a half, then playing guardian. It is not as fun, and it is very easy in wvw.

Agreed:D

Sounds like a promising rune set lmao.

Zero Day.2594:

If this is some sort of cry that thief isn’t easy… it’s not going to work :/ … Believe me, somewhere in this post someone will say something along the lines that thief is just all cheese no skill facerolling permastealth OP class….

Though I think it doesn’t apply only specifically to a thief, it more applies to the gamer themselves, as they slowly become your last point on the list (a predator like mentality). Because all of that, the skill (I guess analytical?) behind it can be carried into other game genres like FPS (pathing people are likely to take, places likely to hide, likely reactions) and MOBA (league of legends, watching what items they have, how they behave(are they afraid of you? are they acting suspecious(ganks?)),watching the map were people are going…)

What I am trying to do is give my opinion on what I believe what it takes to be a Thief. Not just an average Thief, but a high tier’d skilled Thief.

What does it take to be a Thief? Some try to answer this but don’t quite hit the nail on the head. Here is my perspective on what I feel it takes to be a Thief..

-Analyzing and Over analyzing. You need to know your surroundings really well. You need to know and be aware and remember which scenery you can blink to, or walk up with ease.
-You need to be able to weigh the hostiles in order of most damage dealing and lethal class. Necromancers hold top of the tier for that. Necromancer,Engineer/Mesmer/Warrior Or Thief/Guardian/Ranger.
-You need to be able to be smart and take advantage of your surroundings. Use LoS methods, or Dropping methods(Which usually is high risk high reward)- Dropping means dropping from fatal heights, and needing to be sure that your chaser will follow you. (It’s a very good idea to always have atleast 10pts in acrobatics for fall damage trait)
-You need to map your surroundings, and always know who and what is around you at all times, and always try to find and fight in spots where there are in range (1shottable) critters to CnD off of when need be.
-A Thief always needs to be moving, and once still, the game is over for you.
-A Thief needs to be aware of the boons that’re on their victim, whether it be to steal it or wait the duration out to close in.
-Always think ahead of yourself, and your opponent, Once you land a hit, make sure it’s followed by another, You don’t want to give your opponent the time to think and react calmly. Always have them on their toes, because once they freak out. It’s a done deal, you’ve won—-Think 3 steps ahead and anticipate
-And as a Thief yourself, don’t jump the gun. Meaning don’t get so excited in seeing someone’s hp down to 10% that you lose all focus on your initiative and your actions. Because it could be a baiting tactic. Which by then you’d had probably already fell for if you didn’t pay attention.—- Always be calm, and have clear thoughts.
-And lastly.. You need to be able to balance whether a stomp is worth risking your life over. Weigh the life for a life factor.
~ A Thief is a Predator, we should have clear and calm thoughts while still maintaining swift and fast movements when stalking or attacking our prey.

-Thanks for listening
~AikijinX

Burnfall.9573:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Devs,

Now that two of the best Mesmer players, Helseth and Sensotix, have quit playing Mesmer in favor of thief, are you going to recognize the “Apex Predator” problem you have created?

For clarification I am not saying Helseth and Sensotix are the best, simply among the best.

edit:
Helseth quitting Mesmer: http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/b/500201131
Sensotix quitting Mesmer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3e9eHHjfaQ

Thief= no experience

Thief= low-skill requirement

Thief= no effort

Thief= cheap design with cheap alternative mechanics and tools.

Profits= unlimited access to stealth, stability, highest single damage, conditioner removal, critics, boon stripping, teleporting, health, resetting fights, survivability, invisibility, invulnerability, invincibility….bonuses and rewards.

Seriously ask yourself,

why work for hard labor, when you can work for cheap labor and get better profit ?

I really hope you’re just trolling, because if you’re not than I’d recommend you pick up a Thief and try it for yourself. And if you have already and are so ready to disapprove me, than I would love to see some footage of how you play. It takes a tremendous amount of skill, effort, and practice to play a Thief correctly. A good Thief is Average, a Great Thief is Dangerous. And shall I also add. The build doesn’t make the player, the player makes the build. If a scrub D/P Thief were to 1v1 another Thief with greater skill and preferably with a different set, then that other Thief will have no problem with that D/P. Our cheap design takes alot of getting used to, and alot of conservation. If you don’t conserve and use your initiative wisely, than you’re done, and it’s game over. Thief’s stability access is very limited. via: Daggerstorm, or Bountiful Theft trait when you steal from another player. Stealth does not make you invulnerable nor invincible. Playing a Thief is always high risk, because of our lack of boons that we cannot produce by ourselves, via “protection”. Not to mention our base health pool, and armor rating are among 1 of the lowest raw, w/o any boons backing us up.

Thief underwater Towline : Throw a tow line that pulls you to your foe and cripples them

Damage: 168
Crippled: 3 s
Range: 900

~No where in the description does it say anything about the user getting dazed. Anet please, myself and the rest of the Thief community would like to know the reasoning behind this?, because this bug has been unanswered for a long time.

I am not trying to complain about anything first and foremost.

As a Thief I kind of get disheartened when I see a Warrior out run me. A warriors speed is quite impeccable. And at times I wonder if their “in combat” speed is greater than a thief’s in combat speed. Their access to swiftness, might, and fury seems alittle overpowered with that short CD. But eh.. What I am really concerned about is what swiftness does to skills, making them go go farther than intended. i.e Warrior and Engineers primarily. When a warrior wants to get away it seems pretty effortless with their great sword, not to mention the already added swiftness. I really just want to know ANET if abusing and taking advantage of swiftness with these skills are really what was supposed to be intended? Was the extra range that Warriors leaps/whirls/dashs/and rush skills were all supposed to be intended?

kitten … year old post.. I remember posting in this HAHA..