Guild Wars 2

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5pm in Arizona.

Just logged off for the night. Too lazy to take the usual screenshots for score updates. FA is leading in potential points. Yaks are still 52k ahead in the overall score. It’s been an interesting evening in Yaks BL. They had trebs set up at garrison to hit the west keep which FA owned. Wall kept coming down with some Yaks coming in only to get killed and not make it very far in. When I left, GODS took east keep and went to try for garrison, but it was too well defended.

Maguuma will become a Tier 4 server once HoD drops after the next match. That’s assuming you guys beat Ehmry Bay.

Inuko.1452:

Maybe we’ll see you folks from SoS sooner than you think with FA

Would be funny if we beat SoS again, lol. After they got all their transfers toward the end of our match many weeks ago, I never thought we’d see them again. We’ll still need to recruit more for that to happen though. Being competitive in Tier 3 is a higher priority.

ULTD was a great addition to FA. Hopefully we get more great guilds like yours.

While I don’t think it will be FA moving up a tier, it would be more fun for any of the server transfers who may come to FA to fight TC and CD instead of HoD and DH. Might be more fun for NA players as well. Not to say HoD and DH won’t put up a good fight.

@Bedinar

Even if FA wins, we’d have to win big. Increases in ratings are based on performance. Yaks are overperforming and will have a bigger increase. At this point in the match, it is probably a mathematical impossibility for FA to have a higher rating than Yaks by the end. Another interesting match to look at is the tier below us. DH is supposed to be winning by more than they are. So Maguuma is actually going up in rating while DH is going down. Despite that, DH is moving up a tier because ET’s rating will decrease by a lot and Maguuma will not catch up to DH’s rating.

Bedinar.1754:

Hey everybody, just wanted to say thank you to all the people who in the last page or so who have kept their comments positive. This thread was a downer, but it feels like people are working to make it better.

On another note, do we know who everyone will be fighting with the reset? (both predictions would be cool).

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Scroll down. They are projections based on the current score and are subject to change. There’s only a couple of days left so the projections aren’t likely to change.

As a Fort Aspenwood player, I recommend Maguuma. They were fun to fight against and were good sports on the forums. Right now they are a Tier 5 server, but with HoD and ET on their way down, Darkhaven moves up next match and either Maguuma or Ehmry Bay moves up a week after. Your efforts would have a greater impact with Maguuma since you could help get them to Tier 4 and remain competitive in that tier against Darkhaven which is currently edging out Maguuma in the current match and against FA or Yaks depending on who happens to be in Tier 4 when Maguuma is there.

Score update. Yaks went from a little over a 110k lead to a 70k lead. 40K over the past two days. The comeback was too late to actually win, but FA is in much better shape now.

^Indiana does DST. I know since I lived there for four years and just recently graduated from IU. In the past though, they did not observe DST and to make things worse, historically they’ve gone from Central time to half-Central half-Eastern to now mostly Eastern, lol.

Regarding DST in general, it should be eliminated:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84aWtseb2-4

Played WvW a bit, but I’m getting distracted by election coverage so I’ll log off for the evening. Here’s a score update.

roostapro.9827:

hmmhmm…interesting…..
While everyone is on here posting FA is closing the gap on Yaks bend ;o

209k yaks
121k FA
28k ET

1733 Server time.

;p

Yaks was ahead by a little over 110k and is now ahead by a little under 90k. A 20k gain by FA throughout the day. Yaks will probably still win, but FA has been closing the gap.

Haldunius.7864:

It was a couple thousand and that’s significant lead for the first N/A prime-time session. Score update?

mattidigital.7259:

3 points away!

Now 6 points, lol. If Desolation really wants Blacktide to get to T1, they can help by attacking Arborstone more than VS.

As a Fort Aspenwood player, I understand why your servers want more coverage so I am definitely rooting for you guys, but truthfully, I just want to see the meltdowns that will occur because of this.

rhonyn.6810:

With time, the matching system may balance this out in the mid tiers (non perfect coverage/pops) but I’m not sure the system/mechanics are currently refined enough.

I think what will happen is the mid tier servers will be fed up with non-competitive matches. Some, like FA, will put a large effort in recruiting to become a 24/7 server. Others will have people quitting WvW altogether or leaving for 24/7 servers. There will be no mid tier server in the sense that all tiers will either have 24/7 servers competing or low pop servers competing.

Fought on ET BL on reset and yesterday. Can definitely vouch that you guys are as tough to beat as Yaks if not more so. You’ll put up a really good fight in whatever tier you end up in. It’s really too bad that it has taken weeks and will still continue to take weeks to get there.

Join a dedicated WvW guild. You’ll see them advertising on the maps. Until then, look for a commander title on the map and follow the zerg.

You get a lot of exp from capturing keeps, towers, and supply camps and killing yaks. Defending what your server owns will also help you level. WvW is about groups so you won’t accomplish much running around on your own.

Yaks were leading by as much as 111k earlier. FA made a 10k gain. Yaks will still win since they are ahead by a lot, but a rematch would be closer. For that to happen though, they’ll have to stay in T3 with CD dropping out of it after the next match.

Update for 5:45PM Eastern.

[Edit: Edited out Quote of deleted Post]

This isn’t about rank, it’s about having good competitive matches. FA has a strong primetime team that except for the Friday reset always logs in to see the map being another color with many things upgraded. It’s discouraging for many on a server to fight such an uphill battle where your efforts won’t affect much.

As we are now, FA has no rivals to really go back and forth with. Since our NA team is strong enough that FA will never fall down to tiers where the other servers also have no off peak presence, the only way to have good matches is to recruit and go up. The people moving to FA won’t be fighting doors if that happens. They will be fighting other players from their time zones that the opposing servers recruited.

elderan.2638:

Savage.5482:

Thoughts/opinions?

I’m just curious who will end up in last place, you guys or ET. Right now it’s just too close to call.

I’d put my money in ET. HoD has performed better against tougher competition this week and last. And two weeks ago:
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/5#NA

I’m actually more curious in what tier they end up in if not the bottom.

Cafeine.9832:

Purchasing & Playing

There will be 3 major regional designations for the release of Guild Wars 2:

• Europe: Defined as Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Players in these regions connect to the European datacenter.
• North America: Defined as Canada, Mexico, and the United States. Players in these regions connect to the North American datacenter.
• Other: All countries not already listed above will connect to the North American datacenter.

Here : https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-world-of-choice-the-regions-of-guild-wars-2/

Why americans play in EU regions ? I dont understand…

You are drawing conclusions from what you quoted when the rest of the page it comes from explains it. Read the whole thing.

^Yeah, that guy is mad, but if you want to see some real complaining/whining, read up on any thread dealing with Desolation/RUIN.

Gwal.2813:

Arcadio.6875:

Choose your World
So, for example, if you are a European player who prefers to play on the North American worlds, you’re free to do so.

I have read it, but do you ?
At no point they said NA players are supposed to play in EU.
Look at the example they took : You can go play on NA if you are EU = logic, because they said before that NA ladder is NA people + others.
but they never advised to go the other way around…

I’m guessing English isn’t your first language and I can see how a non-native speaker would have interpreted the article in the way you did.

The first thing to understand is that the article isn’t about WvW. Not only that WvW isn’t the feature they were really promoting when getting people to play GW2. They intended WvW to be more casual while sPVP was the hardcore sport. sPVP was supposed to be balanced, WvW wasn’t.

Going on to the article, the reason why they had us register as NA or EU has to do with customer support. “We do this to support our local retail partners, and we use this information to connect you to your optimal data center, customer support team, and to ensure the correct language support. Customers in North America must register the North American version of the game, customers in Europe must register the European version of the game, and customers in other areas may register either version.”

But regardless of whether you registered as NA or EU, your account is global. “After you successfully register your Guild Wars 2 account, it becomes a global account. You can roam to any part of the world and still access the game.”

An interesting thing to note is that people not in NA or EU are told that they will be in the NA datacenter, but then later on it says those people can choose to register as NA or EU anyway.

Whether the default list for your home world choice is NA or EU is just a suggestion that you are not forced into. Yes, their example is specifically that EU players can play on NA servers, but NA players on EU servers is also allowed as is Oceanics and Asians on EU servers. EU servers are not EU players only.

Just got done playing for about 3 hours in EB. Didn’t see ET at all unfortunately, but I guess they are really only in their BL. I miss them from the reset. We engaged Yaks several times, but for the most part we were up against doors. The back and forth this time around was towers and supply camps changing hands every few minutes.

wombat.6123:

Cogbyrn.7283:

I hope people don’t assume that FA is represented by a vocal/whining minority.

Overall I’ve been enjoying this match. Although I’m not sure why Yak’s players think FA are complaining about zergs.

I’ve just read this entire thread and not seen one FA person even mention zergs or complain about being losing because of being outnumbered.

Unless you buy into the Yaks narrative that they are winning because of superior tactics, they seem to just accuse you of whining and complaining. I should be fair though. Not all Yaks in this thread have been doing that and I thank those who are able to look at the situation more objectively. Yaks have really put out some good strategies just as TC did weeks ago. It just isn’t why they are winning. I really wish WvW was about that, but it’s up to Anet to create a system that focuses on that. They intended WvW to be something between PvE and sPvP. People will jump on and have great fights and then jump off.

Gwal.2813:

besides, US players don’t have to come to EU ladder : it’s supposed to be for Euro players !

please, read, it’s an official statement from ANet that may clarify things :

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/a-world-of-choice-the-regions-of-guild-wars-2/

• Europe: Defined as Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Players in these regions connect to the European datacenter.
• North America: Defined as Canada, Mexico, and the United States. Players in these regions connect to the North American datacenter.
• Other: All countries not already listed above will connect to the North American datacenter.

See ? the NA ladder is meant to be worldwide, the EU one is supposed to be for EU locals

If you’re going to keep posting this article, at least quote the rest of the article that is relevant to the discussion.

Here’s what you didn’t quote:

When you purchase the game from our Pre-Purchase website, you’ll automatically receive the correct regional version of the game based on where you live.
When you purchase the game from a retailer or authorized partner, you’ll receive a serial code that you must enter at our registration page to create your account. When you create your account, our servers will perform a one-time check to make sure the serial code matches the region where you’re connecting from. We do this to support our local retail partners, and we use this information to connect you to your optimal data center, customer support team, and to ensure the correct language support. Customers in North America must register the North American version of the game, customers in Europe must register the European version of the game, and customers in other areas may register either version.
After you successfully register your Guild Wars 2 account, it becomes a global account. You can roam to any part of the world and still access the game.

Choose your World

The very first time you start the game, you’ll be asked to select your home world.
By default, we display the worlds that are hosted in your regional data center, but you will be able to select a home world from either region at this time. So, for example, if you are a European player who prefers to play on the North American worlds, you’re free to do so.

It’s too bad I missed tonight’s match. I went out. Looks like there was a lot of fun.

ImmortalZodd.6871:

Next friday is going to suck for us CD again and TC who beats up on CD, you will see us again in two weeks.

It’s possible we may never see each other again, lol. If Yaks gets knocked down to T4, someone is going to have to take your place in T3 as TC’s punching bag. I doubt that it will be DH, Mag, DB, EB, etc. Without server transfers, we will switch places between T3/T4 forever!

Just logged in for a score update.

Ekove.4586:

Point is, even if your argument is valid, both us and DH suffered from the off-prime time capping powers of CD last week but neither of us gave up and we never let them take a stomping lead. Sadly by FA’s efforts/numbers today it seems that many have given up and it might be a boring week. Either way, well played on the first day and I hope you guys will keep it up, and also realize that our “night team” is not as monumental as you might think considering how CD walked over us during the night last week.

This has been mentioned several times that no one is saying your coverage is great, but rather we basically have none. Any sort of presence you guys have during off peak will beat ours and you will have the map. Dragonbrand was able to do this to us too, but the difference is that with Dragonbrand, we were able to take back the entire map in a short amount of time and hold it the entire NA primetime. They and Maguuma were no match during that time. You are. TC was as well. Dedicated WvW guilds are still going to come out every day, so there will still be fun matches, but a lot of casuals are going to see a blue map with everything upgraded and they won’t bother. I don’t hold disdain for those people like some do even though I’m in a dedicated WvW guild. It’s not like I play every aspect of GW2. If they come to WvW for an even back and forth match, then why would they bother with an uphill battle if that’s not what’s fun for them? I think many will still come out today, but it won’t hold for the rest of the week.

I think it’s funny too. We had another person go to an opponent server many weeks ago to mess around like waving at other GODS members in front of everyone. We proceeded to kill him when he got close. With the 7 day limit, we wouldn’t do that again, so this guy was acting alone.

No. We were always in FA.

kerex.8150:

Arcadio.6875:

Also, NA servers like Fort Aspenwood need EU players to be competitive. You’d actually be welcomed with open arms.

This, my friend, is what i do not understand at all.
Why do they need EU player to be competitive ?
If we have 2 timezones, 2 ladders, it’s because players from NA mostly play during NA primetimes and EU players during EU primetimes.
If Fort aspenwood needs night players, they can recruit NA “night” players.

Our competition isn’t simply staying up late. They have EU/Oceanic/Asian players. Fort Aspenwood is in the unfortunate situation where we have relatively few non-NA players compared to the servers in the tiers we end up in. Our NA force is too strong to ever drop down to a tier where we may actually have equal non-NA players. The only thing we can do at this point is do what the competition is doing and recruit players in other time zones.

kerex.8150:

Some people on my server are starting to think we should migrate to NA and mess up the NA ladder with “morning cap” EU zergs. I’m not the “one eye for an eye” kind of man, but if the only way to help everybody understand that allowing massive migrations between timezones is a big mistake, is to migrate and do the same… err: ok with that.

If you have a problem with EU servers recruiting NA players, there’s not much you can accomplish by taking it out on unrelated NA players. It’s not like the people you have problems with are going to care. Also, NA servers like Fort Aspenwood need EU players to be competitive. You’d actually be welcomed with open arms.

NSP previously had a much higher rating than EB and EB didn’t win by enough in the last match to overtake NSP.

I didn’t follow that match since it was unrelated to my server, but I saw early last week that EB was projected to be the blue server of T5, then the red server, then green of T6, and finally not switching positions at all. Did NSP make a comeback throughout the week?

Yeah, the situation in T3 and T4 is unfortunate right now. TC is beating CD by the same margin Yaks is beating us. Unlike our match, TC has been in the lead since the beginning. From fighting both TC and Yaks right after the reset, I would rate TC’s primetime force as very slightly better or maybe equal. Seeing as how Yaks lost to CD, TC is pretty much king of T3 with the exception of T2 servers that may temporarily be knocked down a tier.

Once HoD and ET are out of these tiers, FA/Yaks would play against DH and Mag (or DB if they make another comeback). Without new recruits, FA/Yaks would bounce up and down T3/T4, lol.

Joiry.2504:

So, looks like we’ll get sent down a tier or two again, where we’ll headstomp the other two servers, kicking us up again, be nightcapped back down, headstomp back up, get nightcapped, headstomp, etc…

It’s still very early, but based on the current scores, we would remain the green server of T4 next match. Reason being that we are far ahead of ET that our rating would still increase.

Yaks would move up to be the red server of T3 against TC and CD. We would fight HoD and DH. Looking on the bright side, we will switch places with Yaks two weeks from now as the server getting slaughtered by TC.

It’s really weird some people don’t want to hear about night capping. This thread is for discussing the match. It’s highly relevant to discuss why one server is gaining more points than another server. Maybe some people want to feel they are great players and the explanation that there is a population imbalance during the time period most players on the server are asleep takes away from that feeling?

Edit: Just looked at Mormi’s message history. Not a very pleasant person. Let’s not get this topic derailed.

atarigenocide.4987:

Night caps pretty much always reference NA, Mormi.

Or in relation to EU on their servers.

Mormi.8470:

Arcadio.6875:

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

We got night capped.

How does a server get night capped on your Friday night?
Its only just gone 10PM Eastern Australia and the QQ has started.

You may want to read the first post of this thread if you haven’t already.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

If any EU/Oceanic player wants to make a difference, Fort Aspenwood is the place to be.

Relentliss.2170:

This is turning into a real dogfight between FA and Yaks. Some real tough fighting. I kinda think FA underestimated us a bit.

A little bit of that and a little bit of slacking off during the Mag/DB fight. After the first day when it was already evident FA was going to win (not counting the fact we already beat the two servers previously), FA would always own the entire map right at the beginning of primetime. Nothing to do for the rest of the evening. The guild I’m in has daily WvW events and half of them were either cancelled or done very casually during the last match. You guys were fighting hard the entire week in comparison. But still, we managed to end our primetime this time around with 900 points ahead.

Unless something drastic happens, this will end up like the TC match.

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/39

We got night capped.

We’re pulling ahead! Of course, we could wake up to Yaks having double our score. Yeah, I’m still bitter about the TC match. We fought so hard and won primetime only to wake up to a match that was over and not in our favor. I’m really hoping the match stays close.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/11-2-2012Dragonbrand-Maguuma-and-Darkhaven/

It was only a short scroll down the topic list, lol.

Unfortunately, this will be decided by night capping unless our servers are equal which is unlikely. Whoever has the advantage will win. Comparing our NA primetimes, FA is equal if not slightly better. That was the case against TC. If Yaks is able to take the map during the night, we cannot offset all the points they will gain with the few we would during NA primetime. A lot of our players won’t bother with a map that belongs to Yaks and with everything upgraded too which will make it even more unlikely to catch up during that time.

Played 3hr30min starting from the reset. Really amazing match so far. I was in ET BL so it was interesting fighting their entire server, lol. They were doing well actually. They may not be competitive in the overall match, but they were a force to be reckoned with on their map. FA took an early lead and made it 500 points ahead of Yaks, but for over an hour it has been going back and forth. Hopefully we have equal night presence. Two weeks ago, we edged out Tarnished Coast at this time. Then they took the entire map.

Wow, I predicted DB would get 2nd preventing them from getting dropped from this tier, but now they’ve managed to pull ahead enough that they will be switching places with Maguuma as the blue server for next match. This can still change as there’s only a one point difference in the projected ratings, but still, good job DB!

Score update. I think DB will take 2nd for sure at this point. The reset will cut off Maguuma’s primetime. They won’t be able to catch up in time. This means DH v Mag v DB will be the next match for you guys.

The reset is today so this would be a good time to join Fort Aspenwood.