There’s nothing FA can do about the bots and players defending them besides asking our opponents to wipe them out. They’ve been reported so it’s up to ArenaNet. Those KoN and fake PRO members can’t possibly be innocent and think they are helping legit players.
Keep fighting Dragonbrand! You guys are no longer projected to drop a tier for the upcoming match. Well, I guess if you want to drop a tier so you can win your next match, but you belong in this one.
I’m a level 80 warrior that spends most of my time in WvW since I’m part of a very active WvW guild. The weapons I use are rifle and hammer. Rifle for long range and hammer for hitting multiple targets short range which is useful when you’re up against an enemy zerg. I usually do not leave the group so 1v1 is a rare occurrence.
They shouldn’t go to two week matches ever. What’s the benefit of extending the match for a whole week.
I don’t think they will remove orbs or even nerf the orb bonuses. They really wanted to put a capture the flag game and needed to give incentive for us to play it, lol.
I was there when the Maguuma stack tried to take garrison in FABL earlier today. It was funny to see the dead bodies of those invaders bunched up together.
FA is incredibly strong during NA primetime (we were beating TC after the reset in our previous match) and dead at night. We are trying to recruit EU/Oceanic guilds right now. We still lose ground to Maguuma and Dragonbrand during our off hours though and they don’t exactly have great coverage either.
i can say as far as YB goes i think we are in the right tier (4) or if we get a good match up next week with Eredon Terrace and Fort Aspenwood maybe we can break into tier (3). but right now we are dead mid pack as far as all the servers go, we have great commanders and a community mumble server to communicate we just need more people using it and logging into WvW more often.
FA player here. I’ve been following this discussion out of curiosity and am really excited to play against you guys next match. Since TC and CD have earned their place in Tier 3 and HoD is on its way down, next match decides who gets the privilege of being the final T3 server. But if you guys are having coverage problems against CD just as we had against TC, neither of us will have fun in that tier.
^You make an awesome point. This is an exciting time for FA. Next week, the six best servers will all be in the top two tiers. The big question will be who the next three best servers are. TC has shown they deserve to be in T3 as well as CD who are winning their T4 match. Once HoD drops down again after next week, another server will have to take its place in T3. The only two servers who have any claim to that are FA and Yaks. We haven’t played them yet (at least not in the one week format), but I think we might be the better server.
To be competitive in T3, we need to have the EU/Oceanic presence the other servers have. It is simply not the case that we are asking people to come to FA so they can fight PvDoor. We are outnumbered during those hours. You will definitely have someone to fight. As some others have mentioned, there are already people around to help you for PvE stuff. They just don’t make up the numbers necessary for taking on other T3 servers in WvW.
Yep. One of my majors in college was Business Economics and this is a classic prisoner’s dilemma.
If Server 2 attacks Server 1 and Server 3 attacks Server 1, they both gain.
If Server 2 attacks Server 1 and Server 3 attacks Server 2, Server 3 gains a lot and Server 2 loses a lot.
If Server 2 attacks Server 3 and Server 3 attacks Server 1, Server 2 gains a lot and Server 3 loses a lot.
If Server 2 attacks Server 3 and Server 3 attacks Server 2, they both lose.
Let’s look at this from Server 2’s perspective. They can attack Server 1 or Server 3. If they attack Server 1, they have reason to believe Server 3 will attack them since that is the most beneficial move for Server 3. If they attack Server 3, they have reason to believe Server 3 will attack them since it is still the most beneficial move for Server 3. Regardless of what Server 2 does, Server 3 benefits the most from attacking Server 2. Server 2 rationally decided they will have to attack Server 3. Server 3 uses the same reasoning and attacks Server 2.
Anet has to change the payoffs so Servers 2 and 3 will gain more benefit from attacking Server 1 regardless of what the other server does.
The guild I’m in ([GODS] in Fort Aspenwood) only goes to BL so our members don’t get stuck in queues. I haven’t been to EB since the fight with Maguuma and SoS. We owned the whole map so I went in and did map completion, lol.
Data like this fascinates me as well. Playing the game is a ton of fun, but so it analyzing it.
Tier 2 is a blowout partially because it contains a server (HoD) that should no longer be there. I have no idea what happened to IoJ, but next weeks match should be closer. Tier 3 should be closer next time since there will be no T1/T2 worthy servers in it. HoD will probably still get destroyed. TC vs CD may be interesting. Tier 4 will be FA vs Yaks with ET on its way down like HoD. Theoretically, the system in place creates good matches. The problem is free server transfers. We won’t have stable tiers until free server transfers come to an end.
That said, FA desperately needs EU/Oceanic guilds to be competitive. If we are better than Yaks, then we would be the 9th best server once HoD falls out of T3. We already know what a rematch with TC will look like. It wouldn’t be fun getting slaughtered in T3 but having to move up back to it because we’re better than everything below T3.
http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA is back up so we can see updates. Looks like we may actually be the green server of Tier 4 next week and face ET and Yaks. We could win that too and get slaughtered in T3 again. We really need EU/Oceanic presence, lol.
I was playing in FA BL a bit last night. Although we owned the entire north of the server and kept pushing in the south, the Maguuma and DB invaders didn’t back down. It’s been fun fighting you despite your smaller numbers.
TC, don’t lose too badly that you get dropped to T4 again! FA is the green server of T5 and is winning by a comfortable margin so we may go up to T4 again as well. It was fun fighting you for two weeks, but this is one rematch that doesn’t need to happen so soon.
Hopefully when SoR moves to T2, all T1/T2 worthy servers will no longer be in T3 and T3 might start to get more competitive. Same for T4.
Maguuma and Dragonbrand are not nearly as strong as Fort Aspenwood is during NA primetime. Having night coverage alone won’t help your servers in higher tiers if you’ll still get beaten during the day. FA has more to benefit from EU/Oceanic guilds specifically while the two of you need more people playing WvW in general.
FA isn’t asking to be the next Blackgate so we can be in Tier 1. We just want to have competitive matches. We clearly don’t belong in Tier 5 as this match has shown, but we got slaughtered when we were in Tier 3. We’re hoping with EU/Oceanic players we can be competitive in Tiers 3 and 4 instead of getting knocked down to Tier 5 where we have no competition.
Played for three hours since the start of the match in Maguuma BL. Both Maguuma and DB put up a good fight, but FA is already taking a big lead. Still a lot of fun, but unless Maguuma recruited a lot of EU/Oceanic guilds since the three weeks we played against them, it looks like the outcome of this match is obvious.
FA is in the awkward situation where we have a very strong NA presence with nothing for the EU/Oceanic time zones. Either we win by a wide margin or lose by a wide margin.
^How exactly will this clog our queues if the players we are asking for play at different times?
NA players benefit from EU/Oceanic players because we won’t have huge score deficit and won’t start off our playing hours up against a map that entirely belongs to another server. We will be able to remain competitive without turning into a zerg server. The EU/Oceanic players will benefit from Fort Aspenwood since the times they play the game will have no queues and from their perspective the NA players will have a presence on the server while they sleep so their efforts don’t go to waste which seems to happen on some EU servers. This is entirely win/win unless you want us to lose.
I am not able to get on the game right now because of an error I keep getting since the latest patch. Assuming Derv isn’t getting that error, he should be on right now as the daily guild event starts in 15 minutes. You or anyone else can contact him in the game (Derv The Monkinator.4915). He’s the leader of both GODS chapters. I haven’t seen any other GODS members posting on this forum so I assume the problem is unknown to the rest of them right now. The picture also shows the hacker is acting alone. If you can contact him, it would be greatly appreciated.
GODS is not “somewhat disliked” on FA. We have a few vocal haters which is to be expected for a large guild. The couple of people who complain about GODS in the chat whenever we are holding a WvW event hardly represent the server. With regards to “spamming” our recruitment messages, 1) All large guilds do this and have to so it is absurd to only target GODS/Derv with this complaint and 2) It is hardly spamming when the message is repeated only once in a while with the worst case being that the messages are 10 minutes apart. As for Derv’s leadership, he holds our guild events for 2 hours every night. He is bound to make mistakes or go with a sound strategy that doesn’t work for whatever reason. We have had a lot of success yet the few haters will never acknowledge that and complain whenever we aren’t successful. I suggest ignoring them as it is not helpful for the server when the few GODS haters try to instigate an argument over chat every time GODS is on.
As for the hacker, you’ll notice his guild is Rise Of The Omniscient which is the second chapter of GODS which just started. GODS does not condone hackers and our members will even report them regardless of what server they are on.
Edit: I forgot to respond to your 300 active member comment. We actually have over 400 active members now. That does not mean we have 400 members every night. Derv takes attendance during events and members are considered active if they take part in events recently. You’ll notice in his recruitment message, he says we have 100 member events which is accurate.
This match is a good example of why WvW desperately needs to be fixed. Yesterday when the matches reset and everyone started off equal in the map, FA vs TC was an amazing experience. It was probably the most fun I had in WvW. TC took an early lead, but FA managed to have the edge for most of the evening. Later in the night, TC started to come back again. Then during off hours, TC took the map and was ahead by a large amount. When primetime started once again, FA had to deal with a map that mostly belonged to TC with much of what they had being heavily defended. While it was still fun and we made the map a little more equal between us, it just wasn’t the same feeling as yesterday. As the gap increases in the next few days, people are just going to wait for the next match which will probably be another blowout victory anyway.
I noticed that Sea of Sorrows is playing against Maguuma for the second week in a row as is Yak’s Bend and Sanctum of Rall.
The way the system is currently set up, each server has a rating that changes based on the server’s performance. Servers are ranked based on their rating and that’s how tiers are determined. With this system, playing against the same servers twice in a row (or more) is likely and will become even more likely as the gap between server ratings widens.
My alternative is to simplify how matches are decided. The winner of the current match will move up a tier in their next match. The second place server will stay in their current tier. The third place server moves down a tier. With the exception of the top two servers and the bottom two servers, no server will face the same opponent twice in a row.
