Guild Wars 2

I don’t think there should be an unlimited AoE range, but pushing it to 10-15 enemies wouldn’t hurt too much and would balance it a lot for people that run small skirmishing parties or just have a low population in general.

Good fights in IoJ BL!

Star Ace.5207:

Archer.1658:

Lol what. You’re complaining in your own thread. As far as viabile builds, AH and Monks Focus are the best hands down. Does that mean there isn’t others? No, they just aren’t as practical. You can’t counter someone elses build with just 1 button, don’t deceive people like that. Our virtues are on huge cool downs, it is ridiculous, you have no idea what you are talking about. Concentrations being better than AH? Maybe for team support, but again on huge cool downs which make you a walking squishy with no utilities up. Spirit weapons, who cares, they were never good. Guardians alone don’t change all too much on the battlefield.

While I don’t necessarily agree with every word the OP posted, I certainly disagree with anything else besides Altruistic Healing and Monk Focus as not being “practical”. I can run pretty “practical” builds with zero valor. It’s up to each player to decide what works and is practical for them-not an artificially created meta.

If you aren’t running the 30 into valor then you are pretty much fail unless you are playing team support with honor and virtues which is fine. I have yet to see a build that can dish or DPS + survive without 30 into valor.

Lol what. You’re complaining in your own thread. As far as viabile builds, AH and Monks Focus are the best hands down. Does that mean there isn’t others? No, they just aren’t as practical. You can’t counter someone elses build with just 1 button, don’t deceive people like that. Our virtues are on huge cool downs, it is ridiculous, you have no idea what you are talking about. Concentrations being better than AH? Maybe for team support, but again on huge cool downs which make you a walking squishy with no utilities up. Spirit weapons, who cares, they were never good. Guardians alone don’t change all too much on the battlefield.

osif.8673:

Oozo.7856:

Archer.1658:

Oozo.7856:

A few movies added.

A portion of a fight between DR and EB at the ruins that lasted a few hours.

DR vs. EB at the ruins

A pretty intense 3-way. We did a good job with positioning to make sure we weren’t the ones getting sandwiched.

Outnumbered 3-way

The other is a montage against IoJ with bonus elite bag looting footage.

Bag looting techniques demonstrated in slow motion

Needs more good fights.

Are you on IoJ or EB and what is your guild tag?

He’s probably just one of the nameless zergers that become bitter after getting wrecked by less numbers. There’s too many of those out there. Inc “Nah, that was an AD zerg at least 20 of them… just couldn’t see all of them rabble rabble rabble!”

I can teach you how to good fight, I sell good fights.

kidbs.8920:

Archer.1658:

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Archer.1658:

kidbs.8920:

Ynna.8769:

kidbs.8920:

So basically you’re saying play your best and hope the guardian sucks right? A smart guardian will pace himself as well.

The difference being that a Warrior that paces himself can, when the right opportunity arises, call upon burst that could be enough to end a Guardian, whereas a Guardian who paces himself just dies slowly.

I may not be able to unleash 100b amounts of damage, but I can pop an 8k whirling wrath on someone. It’s not like Guardians don’t output good damage. And trust me when I say you don’t have to be a glass cannon to do the damage that I just described.

Proof of 8k Whirling wrath please. No 25 might stacks, no 25 stacks of blood lust, no upleveled naked people.

And no food buff either right? :P But on a more serious note, glass canon has many different definitions so it’s hard to say what kidbs means. If you put enough in zeal/rad you can output 11k WW on good crits but you give up too many good traits.

IMO, I think a competent AH guard can give a competent warrior a run for his money. I don’t think either class has an advantage over the other, it’s really dependent on player skill in higher level play. What I do believe tho is warriors have a much more efficient setup to get the job done so in most cases. So competent players (not pros per say) can usually show off warriors much easier than guards.

I don’t really think this debate can be ever swayed unless there are options for 1v1 deathmatches. But I’m down for a fightclub with a ‘pro’ warrior anyday. Can’t say I’d win all matches but I’m willing to bet that I’d win 50% of the time.

I want to see an 8k whirl wrath under those circumstances, you won’t even get close to 5k on a 3k+ armor’d opponent. No food, no stacks, no stacking might (other than empower from staff). I mean, if were talking about a full glass cannon guardian with 100~ish crit damage with 3.3k+ attack, then I suppose its possible, but you would be squishier than a glass cannon thief..so to what point does it serve.

First of all, how many people in pvp are running around with 3k armor… not as many as you seem to think. Second of all I never said it was without food buffs. Who realistically runs around with no food buffs in WvW? You would be a fool and gimping yourself.

Unbuffed I’m running at around 2090 power (over 3k attack), 15.5k hp, 2.6k armor, 48% crit and 91% crit damage. I use a 0/10/30/30/0 build (altruistic healing/ empowering might). I also use Omnomberry Ghosts and sharpening stones or skale venom. I build up stacks of bloodlust with one weapon and use superior rune of accuracy on my greatsword.

I have no problem killing people with this build as I generate plenty of healing from my crits alone, have 2 stunbreakers, stability, multiple blocks, damage immunity from my elite, removal of 2 conditions every 10 seconds, and 3 different ways to blind.

You always seem so down on Guardians but I’m guessing that the problem is you haven’t quite mastered the class yet.

lol 15k life and 2.6 armor, you wouldn’t last two seconds in sPvP let alone WvW. I think you’re playing with the pugs dude.

ArcTheFallen.7682:

Archer.1658:

kidbs.8920:

Ynna.8769:

kidbs.8920:

So basically you’re saying play your best and hope the guardian sucks right? A smart guardian will pace himself as well.

The difference being that a Warrior that paces himself can, when the right opportunity arises, call upon burst that could be enough to end a Guardian, whereas a Guardian who paces himself just dies slowly.

I may not be able to unleash 100b amounts of damage, but I can pop an 8k whirling wrath on someone. It’s not like Guardians don’t output good damage. And trust me when I say you don’t have to be a glass cannon to do the damage that I just described.

Proof of 8k Whirling wrath please. No 25 might stacks, no 25 stacks of blood lust, no upleveled naked people.

And no food buff either right? :P But on a more serious note, glass canon has many different definitions so it’s hard to say what kidbs means. If you put enough in zeal/rad you can output 11k WW on good crits but you give up too many good traits.

IMO, I think a competent AH guard can give a competent warrior a run for his money. I don’t think either class has an advantage over the other, it’s really dependent on player skill in higher level play. What I do believe tho is warriors have a much more efficient setup to get the job done so in most cases. So competent players (not pros per say) can usually show off warriors much easier than guards.

I don’t really think this debate can be ever swayed unless there are options for 1v1 deathmatches. But I’m down for a fightclub with a ‘pro’ warrior anyday. Can’t say I’d win all matches but I’m willing to bet that I’d win 50% of the time.

I want to see an 8k whirl wrath under those circumstances, you won’t even get close to 5k on a 3k+ armor’d opponent. No food, no stacks, no stacking might (other than empower from staff). I mean, if were talking about a full glass cannon guardian with 100~ish crit damage with 3.3k+ attack, then I suppose its possible, but you would be squishier than a glass cannon thief..so to what point does it serve.

Yeah mesmer has a lot of usefulness. So do many other professions..I don’t get it. The era of portal bombs is pretty much over considering everyone now realizes heavy AoE will destroy them. Time wrap is cool, but on a huge cooldown. Mass invis is nice. Mesmers can’t pull you if you stand in the center or behind the ledge I believe. I don’t believe you can izerk siege other than cannons/oil anymore since there is no LOS most of time on siege placement.

Im glad you found a balance of traits that you like. As far as PvE any dungeon you will be fine in really. High level fractals (30+ imo is when i switched to a heal build) is when you’ll need to switch.

kidbs.8920:

Ynna.8769:

kidbs.8920:

So basically you’re saying play your best and hope the guardian sucks right? A smart guardian will pace himself as well.

The difference being that a Warrior that paces himself can, when the right opportunity arises, call upon burst that could be enough to end a Guardian, whereas a Guardian who paces himself just dies slowly.

I may not be able to unleash 100b amounts of damage, but I can pop an 8k whirling wrath on someone. It’s not like Guardians don’t output good damage. And trust me when I say you don’t have to be a glass cannon to do the damage that I just described.

Proof of 8k Whirling wrath please. No 25 might stacks, no 25 stacks of blood lust, no upleveled naked people.

Oozo.7856:

A few movies added.

A portion of a fight between DR and EB at the ruins that lasted a few hours.

DR vs. EB at the ruins

A pretty intense 3-way. We did a good job with positioning to make sure we weren’t the ones getting sandwiched.

Outnumbered 3-way

The other is a montage against IoJ with bonus elite bag looting footage.

Bag looting techniques demonstrated in slow motion

Needs more good fights.

Guanglai Kangyi.4318:

You guys realize warrior range is almost as bad as, if not worse than, guardian range? Guardians at least has staff to keep pressure on kiters and they’ll last much longer in a straight melee dps race. Warrior has nothing but rifle, which is crap damage even if it hits, and snares are pointless against a guardian because you getting close to him is already doing 95% of his work for him.

I would one shot you with kill shot. Hows that for a crappy rifle? Hell my volley would net me 6k easy.

@ Op. Time your shield blocks and enduring pain. Pace yourself and you will never lose to a guardian or at least die by one. Also, constantly use cc’s of any kind to make the guardian blow cool downs to either heal or stun break.

Oozo.7856:

Archer.1658:

Oozo.7856:

Archer.1658:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dear EB commander-who-died-in-Anzalias-and-didn’t-revive-when-you-are-up-by-50k-to-call-out-everything-we-did-and-siege-placement-for-your-zerg;

Enjoy getting your kitten kicked in T1.

Sincerely,
Miss Winters.

Upset much?

I wasn’t there, but it sounds like someone they killed didn’t release and used their invulnerable dead body to spy and call out seige placement. You have to admit that is kind of ridiculously lame, but I do think it is one of the things they are specifically addressing in the Feb WvW patch.

Because it changes the tide of war so much. If you know how to defend, then it wouldn’t matter. Whether the concept is “lame” or not, who cares it’s war. Want me to pat you on the back after you die? There is no mercy for the weak.

Your reply makes about zero sense. If you have siege placed at strategic locations to repel an attack but some dead player who is inside calls out the position and types of that siege it’s a problem.

And this is a game, it’s not a war. The main difference being that in a real war a dead person can’t report information back to base. But, you probably already knew that.

It’s not a problem if you know how to defend it, get over it. This is war sir, you should take it with the utmost seriousness. If you’d like I will teach you how to defend the siege?

Oozo.7856:

Archer.1658:

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dear EB commander-who-died-in-Anzalias-and-didn’t-revive-when-you-are-up-by-50k-to-call-out-everything-we-did-and-siege-placement-for-your-zerg;

Enjoy getting your kitten kicked in T1.

Sincerely,
Miss Winters.

Upset much?

I wasn’t there, but it sounds like someone they killed didn’t release and used their invulnerable dead body to spy and call out seige placement. You have to admit that is kind of ridiculously lame, but I do think it is one of the things they are specifically addressing in the Feb WvW patch.

Because it changes the tide of war so much. If you know how to defend, then it wouldn’t matter. Whether the concept is “lame” or not, who cares it’s war. Want me to pat you on the back after you die? There is no mercy for the weak.

I agree 100%. However, my perception is that anet must be trolling. Ehmry Bay (my server) will be in t1 and we are going to get roflstomped down for the next 5-7 weeks while the original t1-t3 servers move back up. Thanks Anet.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Dear EB commander-who-died-in-Anzalias-and-didn’t-revive-when-you-are-up-by-50k-to-call-out-everything-we-did-and-siege-placement-for-your-zerg;

Enjoy getting your kitten kicked in T1.

Sincerely,
Miss Winters.

Upset much?

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/WvW-PvE-The-Healway-Guardian/first

Wizardauz.3761:

yeah i agree with that.

the whole timing of this server rating reset kinda screwed us over…

and now we’re skyrocketing to Tier 1 for some reason… thats going to be a real pain.

We might be looking for a couple weeks of pain having to fight old rivals and other massives.

It may be another week of population differences blaring us in the face, but it could as be a blessing in disguise getting sent down now…

We’ll probably go through a lot of beatings. Considering the original t1-t3 servers will be working their way up, we we’ll prob bump into each of them on our way down. I must hand it to anet though, i bet they were like hey, lets troll the crap out of lower pop servers this month.

lcc.9374:

Not totally true

Even ignoring our superior offensive stats.
Dps guards can get more than 25% burst just from zeal and radiance traits alone over balance guards without points in Zeal and Radiance. Not taking into account our blind vulnerability procs with leap of faith and Voj procs. And Leap of faith procs are a bit buggy in that it sometimes gives more than 3 vulnerability procs.
http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Blind_Exposure

And also your skill choices affect the results too
I also charge up with staff 4 and pop save yourselves before i go in.

So realistically we dont do the same dps

And here are the stats of a true glass cannon guardian hitting you in WvW
complete with staff 4 buff, save yourselves, sigils, food and oil

Most people just roll over and die in face of 3800 attack, 96%crit chance and 107%crit damage

2.3k armor and 10k life. You must be joking. You’re even squishier than a glass cannon thief who does even more burst than you. In addition, you have to prep yourself a lot just to get up to that point of damage, and by the time you are up there you would be dead, case closed.

Bakitten291:

Archer.1658:

By all means play the class the way you want. Just note that it isn’t going to be effective. No matter how good a “dps” guardian seems, a balance will always outshine it. My Stats just to brag: 3050 Attack, 3100 Armor, 70% Crit Damage, 31% Crit Chance, 17k Life. No Food either. Not only am I more “tanky” but I dish out practically dish out the same dps. But again, its impossible to impose the way you play on others. So go ahead and play a guardian like a warrior.

See, you dont dish out the same damage, not even close. We have the same attack, I have more crit damage. but i have about 40% more crit than you do with 1h sword and it matters big time. I don’t think you realize how much more that scales between the attack/crit damage. Even more, assuming you are running a standard bunker build with AH/EM you most likely don’t have fiery wrath which gives me 10% extra damage on burning foes, and the Blind Explosure trait like ICC mentioned. I can get 12 stacks up on the sword while using focus before I even use burst skills, Thats 22% extra damage I can burst on someone 25% if I switch over to GS in the process. at about 6-9 stacks my sword auto attacks are doing close to 2k damage with a 3k last hit, Even higher on glass cannons.

As far as defenses go yes, you might be more tanky up front but I have a TON of health regen through crits, virtue, and meditation healing. Of which the crits only become stronger with more targets. Thieves have never one shot me, 100b has never even come close, even while getting jumped out of nowhere with it.

Honestly this will most likely be my last post in regards to you, as I am rather sick of arguing the effectiveness of these types of builds. Countless people have said and shown otherwise. And as far as “playing like a warrior” No, We are playing like a damage build guardian. I’m sorry if you can’t grasp that concept, but to go into almost every thread about a guardian DPS build and tell everyone they are playing the wrong way is ridiculous, and I honestly think you are doing nothing more than trolling with it at this point. If it does not match how you feel the guardian plays, why do you even go into threads like this? You seem so adamant against them, why bother with them?

Actually I do, in no way am i a bunker build lol its a “balanced” build which is a lot more effective. More crit damage? congrats, Lemme just add on the food and nourishment and all other things like you do (easily putting me to 80% crit damage and 40+ crit chance kitten . You run a lot of crit chance to no point other then the fact it heals you through food. Brb putting on full berserk and acting like you wouldn’t die in 2 hits. There is absolutely no reason to play a dps orientated guardian when warriors fill the role better. I realize that a lot of people will be disgruntled after putting so much effort into their guardian only to realize that we were not ment for DPS. Thanks for playing.

Sorem.9157:

^ Frustrated player because he can’t play Guardian right. Don’t hate at the profession, really. Guardian does provide awesome support, i’d say go for it.

Yeah don’t listen to me OP.

Guardian healing is more effective in FOTM. As for WvW and sPvP it’s rather hit and miss.

Bakitten291:

Archer.1658:

Too much focus on DPS. You would get 2 shot by any glass cannon thief and 1 shot by any glass cannon warrior. You shouldn’t be playing guardian as a warrior. I also see a huge lack of condition removal.

Actually you are wrong, love getting jumped by thieves since I can 2 shot them, also I have never been one shot by a warrior even when eating a full 100b. And how about we let people play the class how they want to. Instead of telling people what they should or should not do with the class.

Annnnnyways. I should update that guide some. I switched some sigils and went to omnomberry pies to complement the monks focus on the build. I run accuracy/generosity on sword/focus and run generosity on my GS as well. I dropped contemplation of purity for bane signet, and switched my valor traits to condition removal, toughness to perc and kept monk’s focus.

Also i dropped the sword damage trait for signet cooldown, but could also replace it with signet removes condition if you still feel you suffer conditions too much. Also i switched to straight beryl orbs in my armor, since i wanted the added vit/crit damage. And finally I moved to sharpening stones because it was an overall damage increase over the oil.

So now the build has 3 forms of condition removal (2 every 10 seconds and a 20 second on demand, 2 healing sources (food/ meditations) and added passive power with an on use CC that does decent damage (crits for about 1.5k for me) I sit around 70% crit with 1hand sword and about 45 ish with the GS. 3k attack with 1h, 3.1 with gs, 2800ish armor and 13.5k health with 1h and around 15k with GS (gs is valk, cant rember if i mentioned that in the build)

By all means play the class the way you want. Just note that it isn’t going to be effective. No matter how good a “dps” guardian seems, a balance will always outshine it. My Stats just to brag: 3050 Attack, 3100 Armor, 70% Crit Damage, 31% Crit Chance, 17k Life. No Food either. Not only am I more “tanky” but I dish out practically dish out the same dps. But again, its impossible to impose the way you play on others. So go ahead and play a guardian like a warrior.

Too much focus on DPS. You would get 2 shot by any glass cannon thief and 1 shot by any glass cannon warrior. You shouldn’t be playing guardian as a warrior. I also see a huge lack of condition removal.

I don’t think so. While they were fun, they also were extremely overpowered when all 3 where in the hands of 1 server. In addition, it invited a lot of hackers and exploiters.

shield for team support, focus for self support (roaming or duels).

Sorem.9157:

Archer.1658:

Warrior is better in every aspect besides FOTM. Prove me wrong.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/This-is-why-your-WARRIOR-SUCK-Part-1/

That guy is just ranting about how he sucks.

Warriors:
Amazing Burst
Capability of being an awesome team support through shouts/banners
Range Options

Guardian:
Self Healing through AH, MH or stacking clerics with staff
Medicare Damage at best
No Range Options
Usually playstyle as team support

Do go on.

I like using Prayer to Dwayana as my heal because it’s sexy. I only play for style
#swag

Warrior is better in every aspect besides FOTM. Prove me wrong.

I’m getting this too lately..for example right now.. i get up to 100~ish kb/s then it drops to 0.00 kb/s..

We are used for healing and meatshield (pushing the front line), if you don’t like that, then I suggest Warrior which is better in every aspect.

Thing is..your stacking boon duration and as result you will have less raw stats, so the boons are suppose to make up for it. Your trait lines seem a bit awkward too..and your attack is ridiculously low. Please post all your armor/weapons + jewelery and current build.

When transmuting the skin to an ascended, it would that render it unable to be upgraded to infused etc?

They were pretty OP. They increased my damage 10 fold. Im glad they nerfed them, now I might lose.

Forget swords. I rather have them focus on GS and Hammer and stabilize them. GS + Hammer is the best combo for cc + dps.

I agree only in the situation you are being ganked. No matter how much “skill” or abilities you have, with lets say 5+ ganking you, you will be cc’d a lot or instantly dead.

I can’t even take this thread seriously. The amount of complaining people do over nothing. ._.

I predict they will become another HoD or ET or SBI. As far as their “skills” lets just say that everyone they have faced has said “below average individual skills”. Great for Zerging though when you outnumber people 5 to 1.

Gab Superstar.4059:

Wizardauz.3761:

Oozo.7856:

Tons of fun fights tonight regardless of the PPT. Thank you for not being Kaineng, EB. Feeling bad for you IoJ. Hang in there.

Hey man we we’re just thinking that we dont want to be that way.

Btw had some fun fights with you earlier in the day i got you once but i remember your group steamrolled us that one time near the ruins.

Looking forward forward to more during the week.

Dear FTF, these fights would be better if your people didn’t /dance and /laugh on our corpses when you wipe us 10v3. I am saying 10v3 because we killed 5 of you already.

Sincerely,
Miss Winters.

How about no, next time i’ll be sure to dance on your 3 bodies with 20 people.

Dear half of Devona’s Rest, when you send a 20+ man zerg to kill my lvl 65 Mesmer, you shouldn’t /laugh when you win.

Yes, because we are amazing healers..?

Still trying to play guardian like a warrior..

This thread is hilarious.

Kaineing : Respect us, just because we had like 8 guilds bandwagon over, doesn’t mean we are winning because of that! Oh and we so have individual skill!
Ebay: Not a chance in hell
Devonas: Pfft, we were the best t8 server..

Ulion.5476:

It is difficult to judge the skill of a total server, especially when the only things you have to take are camps on random maps. We have alot of pvper that are not doing much WvW because of that. The first 24hrs of this match only showed you the coverage that our server has. The majority of the pvpers were doing WvW during that time. Now it is just about going to random camps, stopping breakouts or retaking towers making sure we are at 695 during varies times of the day.

How ironic, maybe if you didn’t run in zergs, you could test those supposed “skills” you have.

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

saiyr.3071:

Dhampyr.2104:

Oozo.7856:

Acelerion.6820:

Does kaining run any small group stuff or is it all for the realm business?

Kaineng on an individual basis is one of the least skilled servers we have gone up against. Maguuma is much better in terms of individual skill overall.

But, what Kaineng has that Maguuma doesn’t are multiple no-skill 30-40 mobile guild zergballs. And, they’ve picked up even more of this cheese in the last couple of days.

Your face. No U.

Good one

Sorry, deleted the original. Started to type a response, then realized I’m tired of responding to “Kaineng sucks” posts. So, it turned into that. ;-)

Ha, fair enough. I’ll admit I chuckled a little.

Archer.1658:

Kaineing has a lot more people, but Maguuma has the a good amount of numbers + good open combat skills which Kaineing lacks.

I find it a little offputting that Ehmry Bay has found a server that they would bet against vs Maguuma. :P

Heres the deal. Ehmry Bay has always shined when it comes to individual skill and open combat. We have just always lacked the numbers. I may dislike Maguuma, but I admit out of any server I’ve faced they have have some great skills. Now that you guys have even more people, I am sure you’d put Kaineing into the ground given the chance. Let me reiterate the past couple days vs Kaineing.

Me: Strolling, killing off bad kaineing lalalala
Me: Shrieks KAINEING ZERG OF 40+ INC RUN RUN RUn (impossible im a guardian)
Kaineing: Hey we killed you 40v1 but will still laugh and dance on your body. (true story, even got screenshots and I invited a one of them to party).
Me: Afk eating dinner.

Kaineing has a lot more people, but Maguuma has the a good amount of numbers + good open combat skills which Kaineing lacks.

For Ehmry Bay! (cue awesome music of your choice)

Ranger DPS is cool if you like standing behind a zerg. Warriors have the option to survive the front lines as a glass cannon or just in the back and range it with rifle. Guardian has no DPS (see sig).

Dhampyr.2104:

ShadowSoljer.6524:

Zatria.5783:

Everyone HAS seen what Kaineng is made of. When the numbers are fairly even, you get pushed back and rolled over. When you have more than 2x more players than your enemy, you win. This is no big secret. We have all had enough battles to know exactly what type of server Kaineng is, over populated for the tiers it has been in. There is very little skill in anything you guys do. Zerg, zerg, and zerg.

Winning by shear numbers, is that what your goal is? Good. You have succeeded. You have not won one battle I have witnessed where we had within a 10 count of your total. Not one.

I have a feeling Mags is going to show you for who you really are, unorganized and non-skilled.

Look at all those FACTS you used. You got rolled by numbers less than yours multiple times, I know this because I was in the group that did it. If you say I’m wrong, you are proving yourself wrong as well. Tread carefully on your whining rampage.

Hey Shadow – let it go, dude. Shaka brought up a good point earlier – why are we even biting on the trolling? Let ‘em troll. Folks are angry because their server’s spine is broken and they’re in a downward spiral. It’s scary, and they need to lash out at someone. Let ‘em blame us – because honestly, it really doesn’t matter and feeding them only gives troll gratification.

Besides, is there anything at all new or original in the post you’re responding to? We’ve seen all of that hooey over the past month or so. Nothing new, yawn.

We’ll find our tier, we’ll find our competition, and WvW will be fun again. Don’t get dragged down to the haters’ level in the meantime.

Yeah our “servers spine is broken”. That’s a good way to beat around the bush in saying that you out number us, and act as if it wasn’t so. Please do not regale me with you’re tales of amazing sieging tactics, because it never happened, I was there, it was pure numbers. I will also be laughing when all the bandwagoners eventually leave just like they did to HoD and ET and SBI.

Amins.3710:

I posted a couple video’s. take a look at them.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/guardian/New-1-19-Videos-WvW-DPS-builds/first#post1246428

There’s a couple different builds in there, and as much as I Completely Disagree w/ Archer 99% of the time…. here’s the 1% I agree w/ him: 30 Valor… not just for AH but more importantly, Toughness and 30% Crit Damage.

Everything else is playstyle and supported by gear/food.

Amins, you forget I not only match your DPS (if not only ~1000 less), but also survive much better.

Yeah Armor/Toughness scales terribly vs burst DPS. With our already low hp pool, you have to constantly be on your toes in WvW, which sucks.