Guild Wars 2

Getting hard to read you man.

You say, that perfect timing jump is a bug and not proper running jump. Yet, game forces you to do it once (in normal mode, after last checkpoint in 1-1) and it’s encouraged to do on hidden, difficult area. This should lead to conclusion that it’s a feature, not bug, and something you’re supposed to master to try master SAB.

Then you complain that targeting system doesn’t work. You say that you’ve wrong target (amulet or king) when you should have other of those too. I tell you that you cannot have wrong target and suggest you to use call target feature to see and test it this yourself. Instead you call this (testing, to show you’re wrong) dumb and continue demanding them to fix targeting. Targeting, that is working properly just btw.

Amulet can be damaged in phases where you’re supposed to damage it (left stomp, right stomp) and it’s immune in other phases (lick, eating, big stomp – with exception that you can target it in eating phase’s beginning, if eating follows left or right stomp and not big stomp.)

Frog King can be targeted in eating phase, and damaged afterwards in smashing phase. Autotarget works perfectly. Please, don’t call something I offer you to help to see that you’re wrong, a dumb thing before you at least try comprehend what I actually said; Please – try use call target function to see, that what you complained, cannot really happen. If you still manage to do this, please video it and I’ll write a letter of apology.

Then, to my great surprise as well, you continue telling how you understand boss mechanics exactly. Yet, against those mechanics, you want to dodge instead of using safe spot (the boss tactic that’s supposed to be used, the one I mentioned in my first post and the one you ignored untill now).
You want to dodge agony in Fractal Maw @ 50 as well? Instead of using proper tactic (Agony resistance) and then suggest to change it when dodging doesn’t work? This can be forgiven, I guess, because you cleary now stated that you don’t like undodgable attacks. You think undodgeable attacks shouldn’t exist. It’s ok to have opinion, we all have them. Just don’t say along lines “it’s frustrating that I cannot dodge something, that I know is coming, because I’m too lazy to jump three jumps to safe zone when I’ve time to do it twice” without at least mentioning that you know this being against the “how it’s supposed to be done” in first place. You just sounded like “I don’t know how to do this” instead of “I know how to do this, but I want to do it against the way it’s supposed to be done”. Same stands for “I failed to feed him jewel and I died because he made tongue attack”. Why don’t just say “I failed to feed him jewel, and I died when he made tongue attack because I failed to make dodge in time” if that’s what you meant. You sounded, once again, like you don’t know how to do it at all instead of knowing how to do it, and still doing against that on your own free will.

You’re entitled to your opinions, but because you fail to give good arguments without loop holes, your opinions sound more of complaining of someone who doesn’t know what he’s doing. Like people crying that they die on Lupicus’s aoe circles even if they’re not inside the circles when they’re in fact killed by projectiles aiming to circles behind them.

For easily rejoining bossfight – I presume that’s done (also) to prevent speed farming. With team of 6-7 you could have one or two running map and others just joining in in last 15 seconds for chest. This’d drop speedfarming from 5~minutes per level to 1 minute per level. Sure, it still can be done – but it ain’t that easy. Requires coordinated team. =)

You wanted to say that you don’t like the way it’s done, guess that’s ok. (Jumping, safe spot, dodging) It’s just your opinion. You say target system is kittened up between frog and his amulet, I tell you to test and see that it ain’t kittened up and give your means to do so, you either test and give opposite proof or admit that maybe I was right on it. You just don’t tell it’s dumb – that’s too easy solution to forgive.

Meh, too much time spend here. It’s just bit hard for me to not reply – part of my silly human nature and personal preferences. I like it hard and the way it is, you prefer easier solutions. Were you to be troll, I’d be trolled bad.

I had trouble grabbing that last orb first time as well, but that’s only when I had not grabbed everything before bossroom. Tried to replicate it few times as well (on new toons).

I couldn’t grab the orb if I had slacked grabbing orbs before, but if I had been taking ‘em vigilenty, then the worm’s orb was no problem at all. Strange behaviour none the less – not sure if intented.

..? So running and jumping, at the exact moment, is not normal running jump? I actually thought you really had to use dodgeflipjump or something to succeed, but you’re just talking about bad timing..

I still have to disagree with your problems on Frog King. You can ask a guildie to join you to create party (no need to be inside with you) so you can use call target function to help seeing how targeting phases go.

Only managed to aim the amulet during certain phases that I could aim it earlier as well, only could target to frog king in certain phases I could aim earlier as well – and that was by using called target – also tried to remove autotargeting feature and mouse target without any luck at all. Only even remotely close to what you describe, that I managed to replicate, was that you can aim amulet shortly when he starts his “let’s open mouth soon!” animation – and that was if he used left/right stop before – not if he used big stomp. During open mouth, however, cannot aim.

Hence, by wasting that hour, I came to conlclusion that at least I cannot target amulet during open mouth phase thus I cannot blame amulet for failed throw. IF such behaviour happens, then you should file bug report and think how it’ll be possible to replicate it. I didn’t manage, and trust me, I tried.

Even further more, his tongue attack is easily dodged. I don’t see the problem? After he closes his mouth, he’ll turn his head – that’s the moment when you’ve to dodge. It’ll work, but maybe you’ve to practise it few times.

Telling me you understand boss exactly, yet forcing me to (so far) a) tell that you can use safe spot b) tell how to time your dodge for tongue attack. -_- I’m out, no idea why I even tried.

Dissapointing when you realize you missed one? I spent 6 hours to get all those maps right. Maybe that just means you wanted it more casual, easier, without challenge and so forth. Guess that’s ok too, but I personally like it way it is. Made succeeding actually feel like it means something. Made it feel like succeeding like on games of old days instead of all carebear stuff you’ll find nowadays. ^^ This is where we differ. And a lot of your arguments are more on lines “it’s so hard this way” where I prefer this difficulty.

More from Frog King’s amulet; Autotargeting is golden there – up to you if you don’t want to use it. I forgot to point this out first time around.

And I did write that you cannot damage amulet in all phases. I also did check it too, you cannot target it either in all phases. Just because you can and are supposed to target and damage it while he kicks with his left/right kick doesn’t mean you can target and damage the amulet while he does big jump nor while he turns his head before big attack. You just failed to understand boss mechanic and his phases, that’s ok, – but you’ll get it with practise.

And the waterfall jump is doable, trust me. All you have to do is know when to jump – and that’s not too early. In fact, there is various jumps you’ve to jump “almost too late”, because this’ll make jump longer. On other side of coin, jump is not as high and you’ll find at least one jump in world 1-1 where you’d fail if waited to maxium distance prior jumping. With little practise, you’ll learn the timing.

Have fun, don’t feel insulted. I’d love to correct you more in SAB (or at least disagree), but it’d end up sounding bitter, so I’ll let you to find the answers yourself. It’ll feel more rewarding, if/when you find them. I like SAB, wish there were more of it.

Just to fix few of your assumptions, or at least, to give counter opinions.

1 There are hidden spots that grant nice amount of baubels when dug – it’s not entirely random. You just find the secret locations! (I know 2 of them in map 1-2, first gives 2×20 and second one, iirc, 2×10)

2 Hard jumps are made hard to be hard? Especially when they’re in hidden rooms.

3 Dodge Frog King..? Why, my good friend, would you do that? Just jump away from his range to the safe spot. I’m sure you’ll find them. They’re really visible.

(4 Bauble tracking? That’d have to reset every time you re-enter instance. Also, just for you to know, you won’t be told wether or not you’ve all of them gathered prior slaughtering the boss! Makes it bit harder – but more so rewarding. Ofcourse you can choose to cheat.)

(5 I didn’t have any problems with camera, but then again, I use mouse to rotate camera. I also tried every race for this.)

6 Frog King’s amulet cannot be damaged in all phases, that much I’m certain.

Skipping and speeding up moto, guess that’d save 1 minute from my speedruns. After all, it takes some 90 seconds between entering SAB from Rata sum and actually starting gaming (in lv1-1).

+1, love it. Don’t let it go.

I’m kittened because I couldn’t receive extra 10+1 laurels. I had done my sPvP monthly and daily before patch, and thus, were unable to complete them after patch and missed extra laurels.

I’ve numerous reports from guildmates receiving extra laurels after patch from completing their (sPvP) monthly. Ofcourse those of us who did it before patch have no other choise but come to cry here over spilled milk.

I’m kittened because I couldn’t receive extra 10+1 laurels. I had done my sPvP monthly and daily before patch, and thus, were unable to complete them after patch and missed extra laurels.

I’ve numerous reports from guildmates receiving extra laurels after patch from completing their (sPvP) monthly. Ofcourse those of us who did it before patch have no other choise but come to cry here over spilled milk.

Not before yesterday.

For those of you who post and delete your posts .

Problem is sPvP monthly, not PvE monthly.

I write it more simplistic way.

1. Do PvE Monthly prior patch (10 laurels)
   #2a Do sPvP Monthly after patch (10+10 laurels)
   #2b Do SPvP Monhtly before patch (only 10 laurels)

After patch, there was 1 free laurel form sPvP daily (if you hadn’t done it yet) and 10 free from sPvP monhtly (for those of you who hadn’t done that already).

So, all of us who did our sPvP monthly in time did not receive (extra) laurels.
However, those who did their PvE monthly earlier (for 10) and waited untill this patch gained another set of 10 laurels from both monthlies.

I tought that such “unfairness” was what you guys tried to avoid when laurels were initially launched and january (pve) monthly didn’t give laurels – just because some ppl had it done before that.

Just saying.

Viking Jorun.5413:

Coming from a background of doing competitive WvW since the Pre-release I see WvW players getting snuffed out again. I have 106 achievement point in my WvW category and though I play PvE a lot I know that many people in my guild do nothing more than WvW, and miss out on being top leaders of things like this. I notice that nobody who’s got more than 7,000 achievement points and has posted their account screens has had anything more in the realm avenger achievement than the tier 1 shield. I’m severely disappointed yet again that ANet’s design for another newly implemented game system has turned it’s back on fellow DubvDubers.

I’m sorry to hear this.

So… How many rare back items you hoarded in hope of turning them to ecto? 5000 +/- ?

(3) Play the game instead of just camping that dragon(/metaevent).

Honestly, while it’s fun to do once for achievement, twice mayhaps for loot, trice to show for your kid brother. It’s not that fun to do 875th time for that 1 rare item.

After all, you are camping that dragon for chest, either hoping for that rare->ecto or jackpot with (named) exotic. You’re not forced to camp that dragon – there’s other activities going on all around the game. You could, idk, mayhaps group up to do a dungeon? SE paths 1&3 are doable 12-16 minutes, cof1 7-15 minutes, half dozen dungeon paths take >30 minutes and all those would net you 60-69 dungeon tokens (which, in some cases, turns out to be 2 rare->ectoplasma) in addition to all that silver from dungeon bosses.

However, it’s you yourself who makes that choise.
edited spelling tiny bit

Data? Allright.

BLSK 1,261 (recorded sample size 306)
(34+134+122+35+61)

(25+100+100+31+50)

Mystic 0,911 (recorded sample size 6295)
(94+134+228+222+241+182+44+234+201+219+214+254+216+222+218+105+277+250+212+220+237+4+464+467+218+244+9+19+7+11+1+10+10+17+1+2+14+15)

(100+139+250+250+250+200+50+250+250+250+250+250+250+250+250+125+285+250+250+250+250+4+500+500+250+250+13+20+7+14+2+9+16+16+5+3+19+18)

Master 0,892 (recorded sample size 43,485)
(218+214+227+224+101+214+221+352+62+149+514+205+184+213+492+376+679+649+698+448+217+245+26+137+218+630+2955+1575+223+2860+1250+230+652+293+3641+1774+2599+1635+69+108+3399+3652+3942)

(250+250+250+250+110+250+250+375+75+175+550+250+250+250+550+450+750+750+750+500+250+250+25+175+250+725+3350+1750+250+3250+1350+250+750+300+4000+2000+2925+1900+75+125+3825+4000+4425)

Additionally; I seem to have 2860/3250 + 1116/1275 for master salvage kit that weren’t in larger table.

Naturally it’s not sample size large enough, as everyone likes to point out, but would be in line with “BLTC gives more ecto than master/mystic”.

I used only crafted lv 80 rares for these figures. Also, it did take bit longer than weekend or two. I didn’t track down invidual ecto per salvage, since that’d been too much work.

I could also tell that salvaging lv 80 whites with basic salvage kits produces more t6 mats than crude, enough more actually to cover price difference in kits few times.

In case you weren’t aware, and you’re not doing quiver mainly because of the looks, there’s fractal relic-version of item. With mere 1850 fractal relics you can replace requirement of 250x t6 material and 50 ecto.

Because they forgot them when extra tab for shinies was added. Like they forgot Mystic Clovers

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/bltc/These-forums-are-not-a-grey-market/first#post913290

That’s what he said.

Using sigil is not dangerous. Transmuting, however, is.

0.9 would be figure for master/mystic salvage kit averange return.
1.25 is closer for bltc salvage kit.

(0,911 mystic, 0,892 master and 1,261 bltc for my personal data)

haviz.1340:

Usually more than one guardian means twice as long bosses fights.

Hmm. Tanky guardian + berserker warrior/thief + 3 afk players.
Berserker warrior changes to tank guardian, fight duration doubles.
3 afk players stay afk?

Sounds reasonable.

That being said and letting (her/)him to think about what (s)he – both of them are nice. Mesmers bring their utility to group and shine in some areas, but guardians stack way better and have their own pros (and cons too, like every class should have). That being said, you’ll probably find guardian easier to play and level – maybe even master – and will find yourself welcome pretty much everywhere at any time.

The real question is, why not level both of them? You have 5+ character slots. Artificier/Cooking/Jewelry will give you 30 levels to both of them fast, cheap and easily while going trough skill challenges(160+ of them at least, orr and WvWvW can be troublesome) alone will net 10-15 extra levels. That’s over halfway to levelcap and can be done in single day (per character).

RedSpectrum.1975:

Yeah it hurts. Thief was my first class so i can safely say ive learned the ins and outs so i dont fold easy, and I can say ive brought more to the table than guardians, not in the form of buffs but in flat out making a dungeon easier. COF Path 3, I can stealth everyone past the bombs. COE I can Infil Arrow across the lasers making it so thats one less you have to worry about. COF Path 1, I can shadow step past the flaming boulders. I can rez when most cant thanks to shadow refuge. I dont need a stealth kit for hacking making me favored amongst my friends for those objectives. The dredge boss in FOTM, I can literally pull him into the oil aoe with scorpion wire making the fight 5x easier for you. when played well, we can make dungeons easy.

While I personally love having thief in my group, just like I love having good elementalist, ranger, warrior, mesmer, engineer, necromancer or even guardian , and while I do play with guardian -not thief- as my main, I still need to point out something here.

1. You can stealth, granted.
2. No need to Infil Arrow. Everyone should be able to do little jumping, even backwards.
3. No need to shadow step, it’s should be easily doable by any player worth their salt no matter the class.
4. Yes – you can stealth, granted.
5. Yes, you can still stealth.
6. Isn’t scorpion wire under same (defiant) rules as every other pull? Such as guardian GS#5 (guardian, who’s bringing way less to table)? But yeah, you’ve 1200 range instead of mere 600. Then again, its rare to see failure here simply because mining suit was moved too slow..

Anyway, don’t get me wrong. I love having thief in my group – you just had bad arguments. I love praising (good) thieves for their clusterbomb-spam on (water)fields, their large arsenal of blind and the damage they bring to the table – compared to poor little guardian-fellah.

Have fun

Orichalcum nodes have 23 hour spawntimer. Without server reset, locations will be the same. You cannot mine more by server swapping, and nodes are in different locations on different servers (but on same maps, naturally). WvWvW also has few nodes.

I’d like to mention fractals as well, since maw-level tends to drop t5/t6 venom sacs. If you farm instead of skipping.

Craft+replace.
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Sir, you might have been mistaken. We’ve had 20 laurels for a while, and some people in town have also this magical thing called ascended triforge pendant. That being said, I don’t see reason why it would not work. Gold drop is a gold drop.

Actually, far from useless. In case you haven’t noticed, they’re account bound – not soulbound on use.

Any of your (fresh) 80ies can use them. Awesomeness +1

Yes.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/news/Game-Update-Notes-January-28-2013/first#post1336820

BLACK LION TRADING COMPANY GEM STORE
[…]
Improvements
[…]
All weapon and armor skins now have the option to be converted to PvP skins. When activating a skin you will be given the choice to either apply the skin to a PvE item or convert the skin to a PvP-only item. Either action will consume the skin. This change applies to all unused weapon and armor skins in the game, regardless of when the skin was first released.

BLTC needs to be cleared from buy/sell offers that have been there for ages and cannot be fulfilled. You know, those same orders you’re complaining about? You are aware that such orders cannot be posted anymore?

It’s not because they would impact trading at all. I’m just tired of seeing 120th topic about this.

Hence it’s demand that skyrocketed thus effecting price. Ofc there are market speculators who try to play the game, but they’re not necessarily market manipulators.

Just go check from spidy how price of gold ore, ruby/sapphire/emerald orb shifted when patch became live. Same for orichalcum too, since there was nerf in supply.
In 2 weeks from this price of these goods should fall down again when people have enough laurels for their necklaces. Sell now, sell high!

(Man, should have bought more dust when it still was ~1s each.)

They used to have more goods for sale, but back then it was too easy to cook yourself up to 400 by karma and gain 10 free levels and “some” of them were removed.
Few of those removed items became quite rare hitting multiple silver price each providing fortune for those who accidentaly or purposefully invested in them – but that’s an another story.

Not like it’d be hard to cook 400 nowadays, it just used to be even easier.

Etien.4601:

So it just hit 700g and rising!

So it just hit 690g and falling!

You know, falling, since it “was” 990g. Price has gone down to 69,7% of what it was! Like loss of one third in price! Omg soon precursors won’t be worth anything at all and then we will all …

Find equilibrium around comfortable price for both parties – those of selling and those of buying.

I’d think more likely that your “personal reward level” is one causing the “problem”. While you did 32 your personal reward level was sub 30, thus giving sub 30 daily chest. Doing 28 after that would have meant second dailychest in 20-29 range.

(Unless your personal reward level was sub 20 and both meaning sub 20 chests, but I’m willing to bet that that’s not the case.)

Were you do 20-29 daily first, then progress to 30 and grab that, you would have gained both chests.

Bartas.4908:

Thanks for the replies, however seing massive drop in prices of ori ore and supposedly bugged DR mechanic I wondered if those are somehow connected.

Dum dam.
Ban wave – > rare prices spike → normal mats crash due reduced demand.

You might be confused by jeweler, which requires 1 ecto per rare 80. and other (equipment) crafting professions, that do not require ecto for rare 80ies.

And about buying smart or so, you seem to get your rare t5 ~93c a pop while rest of us pay 1s10c~ Or just forget to count something. (Some 23s per rare, to put price on safe side, and some 26s per ecto crafted on yday prices.)

I don’t know for sure, but I’d suggest clearing all those “not mails” from your mailbox. I recall it doing miracles for me..

Same is ok, in fact, just by doing difficulties 1 and 2 (3+3+bonus) you’ll get your monthly done. Could be over in less than 2 hours =)

It works. My ranger uses precision+speed with axe/warhorn.

1 minute cap on swiftness tho, it seems.

Are you looking for ascended back-slot item?
Nobody forces you to use t6 mats and ecto. You could just as well use Fractal Relics if you master your wiki abilities for recipie.

For legendary hunt, meh people. It’s not job to be done in a week, but it’s not that difficult.

Actually, what’s offical cap of character slots I can (am allowed) to have..?

I tought it was 8 but just bought 9th slot(4th upgrade) while trying the system.

Well, I’ve to point out one thing about Nageling giant.
He’s a giant, and I’m having hard time to find easy giants to kill for my 1000 kills. (Giant Slayer)

1) chance for exotic (20%?)
2) not legendary, but people do this to obtain precursor (specific exotic)
3) .. t6 items? If you meanto define t6 by crafting (exotic lv 80ies) then best option is to use 3x rare 80+1x mystic forge stone (beware rng). If you mean t6 crafting materials, ones that require crafting level 400, then you can upgrade t5 materials. wiki has recipie ^^ Ectoplasma however is gained from salvaging high level rare and exotic items(68+). I recommend master or mystic salvage kit for bulk, and bltc salvage kit if you happen to have them prior salvaging.
4) Upgrading sigils and runes works same way; chance for same or higher tier result but not tied to specific rune (ie, varmpirism, dolyak, etc)

Edit I’d also salvage white items, always, with crude salvage kit and sell/store mats. IIRC majority of 75+ blue/white are better to be salvaged for chance at t6 basic materials (gossamer, orichalcum) but I’m not yet sure if one should use fine or basic toolkits for that. (“rarer materials”)

/wiki precision
So 2100 or 2116, by formula, is needed for 100% critical chance.

And ofcourse there’s difference between classes, and more importantly difference between builds.

To point out someones err; Master is 25% for rarers.

That being said; some data for you.
Lv 80 crafted rare item.
3364 salvages – 3028 ectoplasma (0,90) with mystic salvage kit (“25%”)
306 salvages – 386 ectoplasma (1,26) with BLTC salvage kit (“50%”)

For profit side; 1-3 silver per ectoplasma depending on price shifts.

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Oh yeah, BLTC is good, if you get it for free, otherwise go for master, unless you want bulk and create few mystic salvage kits.

I’d love to be sarcastic about difference between crafted exotic and “huge boss drop”-exotic, but that’d be rather rude.

To op, sure you can make money. It’s not always fast, nor 100%s of profit per item crafted but about patience and homework (when to buy materials, what to pay, what to craft, when to sell, what price to ask, how much time it takes to sell etc etc.)

Not really game of instant returns.

That being said, got some 800g out from bltc this weekend because items I had in stock became suddenly cheap in comparison to new prices of rare raw materials. And I started with less than 3g inventory a month ago.

From wiki;
Though Claw Island is an instance accessibly only through the personal story, exploration of it counts for both the Explorer achievement and world completion.

Ones in WvWvW Borderland maps do, 3 of them for 5 to 8 characters a day. Plenty of badges.

Not sure if eternal battleground jumping puzzle also gives badges, “but it has been always too contested for my taste to actually complete it.”

cooking, sun beads, tools&salvage kits

quick ones to come my mind.

salvage kits for ecto business..?

I’d say it counts as rare®.
Mystic salvage kit 3364 salvages and 3028 ectoplasma (0,9 per salvage) “25% chance”
BLTC salvage kit 306 salvages and 386 extoplasma (1,2614 per salvage) “50% chance”

I used crafted items. Sets of 250 salvages with Mystic salvage kit gave results between 201 and 254.

It’s ofcourse best to use BLTC when you have them, but if you’re looking for cost effective solution for mass production then go for Mystic salvage kit. If gem<→ gold ration goes over 1g for 100 then you might want to start looking at master’s salvage kit instead due increased price of Mystic Forge stone. Point worth noting, as well, is that MFS are best to buy in sets of 10, naturally, but this leaves 1 unused so you’d need 2500 salvages for “optimal” solution x)

Or play Mystic Forge and convert cheap rares to exotic with extra MFS.

Have fun! (Sharing this, well, because I shared it before at gw2’s irc channel in qnet and anyone can easily get these results.)