Sorry Deso golem rushers on EB, we were supposed to be asleep.
And we were wondering why we can’t make any siege, then someone said “we can make golems”… So you know the rest
Not any serious try (however it may have looked like). More like “for lulz” cause no other siege worked and ppl started throwing all their golems on the floor – not much to do with them in the end
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And just like that another sigil going to be nerfed
Farewell to Viz (at least for some time). Was quite a thing to fight your numbers again and again. After some time, our ppl got bored and tired of it, especially loosing all at night times. However some of our determined players decided to stay no matter what and fight, if we can’t win in “who holds the most of the map for most of time wins” game then let’s show them what we’re made of and play our “zombie apocalypse” game with hordes of enemies all around and pack of brave soldiers still standing (especially at EB, our last bastion ). In the end we will never give up, always ready to fight and not loose faith in ourself no matter how many enemies we face
With the new matchmaking system coming with next week update some kind of WvW era ends. No more fighting the same servers over and over again, not seeing the same enemies every day – for some it was giving more motivation to stand up to the challenge and fight “that deadly enemy” no matter what, for others quite the opposite – loosing interest and fun by being outnumbered most of the time. It was fun to be in this train, especially during evenings, when sometimes it even arrived at “Vizunah Keep” station at EB
Time will show if the new changes are good or bad idea. I think it depends a lot on the players, if they choose to stack up on 1 server just to have the endless winning spree by simply outnumbering the enemy, or if they decide to spread around all the servers and create more balance and winning with good fights and greater tactics on the battlefield (no more coverage wars). With the random matchmaking we won’t know with who we will fight till the actual reset. Some will like it, especially those looking for more fights – finally able to fight with more enemies every week, learn new tactics and so on; and some will not – I guess those who were fighting so much to be in highest tier for so long and now it all get’s randomized, why were they fighting so long for that then? Or maybe it wasn’t the real goal of the game to be #1 in the end? Time will show…
Good luck to all in future matchups.
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Vizu congratulations to your new alliance.
Vizu gonna lose and immediately after that creating a alliance with Jade?
How pathetic are you really? xDHaha, you should be desperate to go on french forums and use google translate
But if you are going to lose in future, it’s not because of an alliance, but because Desolation would be gone, it will mean you’ll have to fight against two others servers and not only Vizunah. Because, let’s be honest, Desolation are just spectators and ain’t doing anything.
Lols, if we don’t do anything then it’s 1 on 1 and you’re still loosing
They should put 3 FR servers in T1 and lock it forever, I would give all my coppers to see that
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Hey all.
Request to SFR and Kodash : pls let JS win and go T1, then we’re all happy and frenchies can nightcap each other. Sorry Elona, I like you, but not that much
~Deso
The cure for all could be to put 3 FR servers in T1 and let them fight for gold medals while rest of the world enjoys the normal gaming
Hey, it was me
Was funny indeed. I didn’t know what to expect at first, but you guys didn’t atk me after seeing my “sweet dance moves” so I think to myself – this can’t end in a bad way :P Some little asura cricket >_> Not nice! Anyway…
“Structural integrity: compromised” – not this time
edit: oh and I didn’t notice party inv on time, maybe friend cancelled it quicker ^^
Here is how it looked from my side:
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Brace yourself Vizunah, I’m coming
Alright! Time to spend my 150 badges + 5250 karma! 10 thieves sure are worth it!
>_>Really?
You only have 150 badges and 5250 karma? Did you just start wvw yesterday?
I have over 1000 badges and 927000 karma.
Seriously, this trap cost 15 badges and 500 karma. It’s cheap as anything.
I could accept that argument if the trap itself cost 150 badges and 5000 karma for just one trap.
I’m pretty sure classes like ele and engi can easily set these by casting the trap first then hitting elixir S or mist form or whatever invuln they have to avoid damage. Warriors can pop endure pain. Avoid all damage while setting this trap.
This is going to get stupid fast IMO.
I used to have a lot of badges and karma, but made some alt’s which needed to be geared up, and last time I’m just buying siege which gets used up very fast
So yea, 1k badges and 1m karma is not much of what I would have, if I sticked to 1 class and /care about sieging up our towers. Even if I had 10k badges and 5m karma I wouldn’t give a crap about making some traps to catch some stupid thief
Sure, there will be some players with lot of badges/karma saved up, who will want to do some thief hunting/trolling, but you guys make it sound like you were falling into that trap at every few steps
Another lesson for our guys to REFRESH THE SIEGE or you won’t be able to defend against golems
Oh, and in case anyone is interested, Vizunah is losing at the moment over in EU. http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#EU
Yep Viz seems asleep but also Elona doing very good at day and has some ppl to stay over to do night watch. Being away from Viz for so long gave them nice refreshment Wish we had more ppl on Deso, but it’s still fun in the evenings :P
That Viz guy mad for having someone stand between him and doors?
Nice going Elona. Good to see you back, fresh and strong, not afraid to fight zombi hordes Yep, maybe lack of competition during last weeks put Viz in some kind of sleepmode, but it’s also weekend, they never were scoring as much as during week days.
Logged in now and seeing that their morning force started to do their job
Few days of ban for forums trollers OPening threads “xxxxx is OP” will be OP
Nice goodbye from SFR on EB.
Funny as we were fighting Viz and they jumped out of nowhere with a lot of ppl, first on our towers and then on Viz ones Hope it continues tommorow also and you make Viz never forget you
Even WL guys who came to Deso didn’t have much chance with Viz :P
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Elona must be so upset that they’re coming back up to tier 1. Poor guys, but at least we get a different opponent. Do wonder if we’ll see the same tactics by Vizunah as the last time Elona were in tier 1…..
Yep, brings back memories
I think Deso is too weak for a 2v1 to be viable this time, which is good in a weird sort of way
Let them come! We know no fear!
Elona must be so upset that they’re coming back up to tier 1. Poor guys, but at least we get a different opponent. Do wonder if we’ll see the same tactics by Vizunah as the last time Elona were in tier 1…..
Yep, brings back memories
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In 1 post some days ago I said that our performance doesn’t depend much on SFR performance, but I was wrong, didn’t expect that you guys would stop playing to this extent
Well, GZ to SFR, mission accomplished… ^^
Last fights taking place in EB keep’s, ours or SFR, during the nights vs dozens of Viz. It would need a miracle to somehow make them go sleep instead playing nightcap game…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHKulXRLpAw
Also nice to see Elona finally back in T1, wonder if I’ll meet some of the guys I used to fight there (Viz must be a little happy too I guess, finally not only doors on their way to gold medal) :P Maybe we will have some more competition and pressure on Viz during day now, not only evenings and last stand in eb, before map turns green
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I think Viz guys were in heaven this night, so much to cap and almost no resistance We even stayed a few min longer after you took all on EB and we capped some camps on other maps, just so that you don’t get bored or fell asleep (it’s probably late night hours now in Can… ups, France)
As always, your beloved enemy players with [Outmanned] icon <3
I think it’s rather normal that if they buffed the power of siege (ac’s dmg, treb’s unblockable etc) then they would have to also limit the amount of siege that you can obtain and make ppl think a bit more where and how much is needed, instead of spamming it everywhere The despawn timer also has it’s part in it, and as a whole it makes quite significant change in gameplay.
… However the “amount” of players still wins
4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.
Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…
But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever
This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.
I really expect Desolation and SFR to fall in T2, to give us some fresh air.
Yes, Deso/SFR will eventually fall in a few weeks, until that happens, wvw will be boring except for the lucky few of Viz who get into EBG.
When the one server drops you can expect the upgoing server to try their best to DROP right again, means not fighting, more boredom.
Some ppl already checking out other games, not even bothering to log in…
4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.
Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…
But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever
This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.
I talked to some vizunah guys when I was guesting on their serv during my search for uncontested temples in orr few days ago. They said “Yea we have 4 hr queues” so I ask why don’t you guys split to other FR servers then? It would be more balanced competition and you wouln’t have to play at nights and no queues, win-win for you and for us also. And he say “Oh we tried but it’s no fun”.. Now I see ^^ Not being on server that is not winning is no fun? Geeez x_x Like you get anything for winning..
Or you misunderstood him… With only this sentence, you cannot conclude anything actually. I went to a low tier server, and yes, it was no fun. Not because we were not winning (we were), but because the tactics/strategies were terribad, noone was listening, it was basically anarchy.
We were winning, but it was no fun.
QED !
I think seeing strategies as good or bad depends on players point of view. And like in this thread there is many “points of view” then, one prefers open field fights and other prefers bunker himself in tower and fight with siege, you know who is who.
Still I think most ppl would prefer going to different server than waiting long hours of queue, so I was a bit surprised/shocked when I heard that (but like said above, every person has his point of view). Also you guys on viz must see for sure that you outnumber other 2 servers at most times at every map (except evenings – so called prime time) and your guys still prefer this outnumbering the enemy and sitting in queue, so maybe it would be your turn to tone it down a bit, it’s out of question anyway that you win week by week, but by spreading to other servers you wouldn’t have to wait and the servers (deso/sfr now, whoever else in future) would have much more balanced gameplay – that’s all there is needed atm.
4 hours queue. Haha don’t you realize it vizunah? You are so indestructible everyone bandwagoned to you (every guildless t1 person). You own fault. Hihi t1 super queue karma punishment for not wanting to quit the blobbing/morning capping.
Sorry i have nothing against the minor core of vizunah, but it get’s frustrating vizunah never seems to have drama. So yes i can’t help but smile drama should come soon with 4 hour EB queue =D. Finally I can dream vizunah will break down…
But there’s troma… Crap, nope it won’t work. Ok vizunah stays t1 forever
This was by no means a flame, but rather a sarcastic post trying to make the more ‘open minded’ ppl of vizunah showing how SFR/deso feels.
I talked to some vizunah guys when I was guesting on their serv during my search for uncontested temples in orr few days ago. They said “Yea we have 4 hr queues” so I ask why don’t you guys split to other FR servers then? It would be more balanced competition and you wouln’t have to play at nights and no queues, win-win for you and for us also. And he say “Oh we tried but it’s no fun”.. Now I see ^^ Not being on server that is not winning is no fun? Geeez x_x Like you get anything for winning..
Guys, pls, anyone, push for points Get us out of T1 plsss xD
I think Vizunah golems melted at outer EB keep door tonight thx to arrowcarts
Don’t worry, in next patch they will nerf this also
Some nice post from MagnusLL earlier – have to agree with it. Probably any server being in Viz position would play similiar in style. Look at Sfr some weeks ago, they had many guilds which could cover all maps and then some staying for nights to counter Viz night teams, isn’t it the same thing? If you have coverage then you use it to fullest extent and try get all you can. Simple.
As for Deso, sometimes we have little night team but it can’t be compared with any Viz forces and it usually ends with golems at EB keep at early morning hours. That made people to prefer fights more than capturing towers and not sitting inside them, because they see it pointless to upgrade everything but not having anyone keep an eye on it during night when it all gets taken away. Kinda frustrating to see something you watch over for so long being lost just because there is not enough ppl to defend it, isn’t it?
Like MagnusLL said, there is need for Anet to make it’s move to balancing few things here, mostly the highest and lowest tiers cause there are the biggest differences. 1 dominating server seeing that it can keep going like this, has their players happy, no matter if they play at night or day, if they win they look happy just with that and keeping their spirit high having easy victory over 2 weaker servers with lower population. Kinda the same thing in lowest tier, 1 strong server that keeps going up/down every week and 2 weak with no ppl who cant compete much with the dominating one.
What could Anet do about this?
- limit the amount of players to +/-X players compared to enemy team – that would balance the forces more than the outmanned buff – which is kinda useless except showing the enemy that 1 side is weaker and can be smashed (should not be visible to enemies in the 1st place), the no repair cost is maybe ok but not bringing anything into the “balance”. That would prevent some ppl from joining WvW at certain hours, but the balance would be back for sure. The other thing would be “What if both sides have 50 players on the field and then 40 from 1 side goes sleep? What do we do with the 40 players from other team?” which is a bit more troublesome to solve, but here could come the “improved outmanned buff”
- improve the outmanned buff – now it’s kinda joke (even though it was changed not long ago), with no repair cost being the only good thing about it (in most players opinion i think). Some real stats and power boost would be a real solution here. What are those 10 guys supposed to do seeing 40-50 players taking their towers 1 by 1? Log off? Come on, that’s not the way… But if they had some nice improvement in stats they could hold on somehow – I think not really offensive boost is needed, I would prefer to get some real def abilities pop up in place of the outmanned buff – giving players more HP, more DEF or/and more resist to Siege dmg (some kind of Last Stand buff) – that would really help at least to save some last towers/keep that these guys were trying to protect during the whole day.
As opposed to the above (which I think and hope could see 1 day being implemented to the game, the following 3 are probably not going to happen, but I’ll post them just as they might point out on some source of unbalance in WvW:
- lock the server transfers (or limit it a lot) – the communities tends to break easily (look Sfr) when the problems show up instead of taking a bit of breath and solving them over time. Also would prevent ppl hopping to the “winning side”, who wouldn’t like to be on “the best” server who holds highest place on the ladder? With ppl staying in the server they choose from start to end (or for longer periods of time) it could help to actually create some stronger bonds between ppl and make them overcome the problems. However – it could create stagnancy and make ppl bored of standing in the same place for long time, also server transfer = gems = $$
- limit the times during which WvW is played – another solution which is unlikely to happen. WvW was designed as 24/7 battlefield which makes it a lot of fun but at times also unhealthy for some players – some that can stay and play during nights and some that decide to stay to prevent the 1st ones from taking their towers etc.. Also players from different time zones have their big part in this, which leads to the last one…
- lock IP so that EU servers = EU players (or at least EU and close to EU timezone), same for NA (if they want ). Dedicated players playing overnight is 1 thing, but players from different time zones make even more problem, because the server who has them has a lot easier way to victory than server without them. In the end – not gonna happen imo.
Well that’s it, didn’t expect I’ll end up with so long post, just wanted to share few things that I had on my mind.
Man the fun today
But honestly double teaming us again at 11 cet pm. I thought deso dont do this… now.. and play for fun not the points …. was hilarious and yeah the skill lag in garrison was epicly badIron had 35 members in wvw when we hopped borders. Anyway pot kettle black typical sfr attitude that you don’t blob. Maybe I should of taken some screenshots inside garrison..
As for double teaming you, what are you on about we had taken hills, so choice was bay or garrison.
Sfr attitude we only die if enemy blob, we never blob and we are always being double teamed. Stop embarrassing yourselves.
We were just looking for fun tonight and found it on the viz border, then eb. Would like to thank Viz for fighting tonight on Sfr border and not making any stupid excuses on here. Especially HUP who kicked our butts a couple of times.
Nothing like facts, last night around 10:30 when I entered EB, the usual, our map attacked by both sides, VS started to try our keep, they are around 50, we are “buffed” (ok outmanned), but keep was T3, and we repelled the attack, and start doing repairs, and flipped again the towers, VS attacked again, they didn’t go to the towers, but they did go directly to our keep, Deso did the same, they didn’t flip any of our paper towers, but they go to our keep and attacked other door.
Deso break in, VS leave (they just want to downgrade our keep, later they will take it more easy), and the glorious army of Deso took our keep.
Comments to Deso: Desolation.
PS: You still don’t get our attention because you don’t deserve it.
If you mean about yesterday: we made kind of little event, took garri on sfr or viz, not sure which map was it, then we decided to go to EB and after some queue when enough of us got in we went straight to SM (Viz was on your keep at that time probably, they were later to save SM ^^) and after taking it – for your keep. Don’t know what was happening in meantime, only saw that viz was at your Langor when we went to keep – they even tried to attack us from behind while we facerub inner door but in the end they had no options left except run or waypoint :P Later some of our sneaky players managed to get inside Viz keep also but it was way too late and no numbers from our side to finish it, gg to those guys for nice attempt
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Every engineer should know this one
Noone makes you do them in these 3 days, that’s why it’s called monthly Noones fault that people just want to do it right away the 1st day the new monthly comes up.
Viz is aaaalmost there! (look attachment)
I made this little post on our priv forums but don’t mind sharing for further discussion
Sooo, let’s add even more fun to this and make it so that viz won’t be able to get any karma, any wexp or anything at all in WvW
How do you guys think, what would happen if they had everything on every border for a whole week, even every sentry lol? They would die starving in their T3 towers sitting by ac’s, ballistas and trebs, don’t you think? A whole week without seeing any single deso guy (ofc some cooperation from Sfr would be needed)
Week off from WvW would be pain for some of you but.. It’s nice weather here starting, winter going away finally so time to go back to some outdoor activities also
What do you think? Could this ever happen?
Cause the only way, that I see, to change current state of EU T1 would be to get 2 strong servers make Viz kick the bucket or leave them alone like said above hoping they will go extinct Some may say “there was sfr, should have worked with them” or like that, well maybe we should have helped a bit, but deso decision was to keep it 1v1v1… And it all ended like it was before.
Let the zombi apocalypse begin:
http://tinyurl.com/cfx9fcg :P
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It’s not any hate or like that towards Viz, it’s just the neverending story of outnumbering and nightcapping pla pla pla – in general killing healthy competition. Also winning or loosing doesn’t give any real rewards besides maybe satisfaction and growing your kitten, so you can treat this as a “theoretical discussion”.
No trolling and constructive replies pls if you have any thoughts Thanks!
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Please have the foresight NOT to reward for taking supplies from Keep or Tower… just saying
I’ll do no such thing!
Building random siege inside keep would be kinda annoying also >_> It already happens sometimes, for different reasons though – trolling, sabotaging by siege capping. If Wexp would be added, I wonder how it would end.
After reading some of the above posts I had to think for a while about some constructive reply, but then it came to me that no matter what I would write here, someone would find a way to troll it and the flaming will just continue…
Naah, thx
This is VS blobing is getting seriously insane, it sucks the fun out of this game.
I hope we drop Tiers soon, this is just no fun.With VS blobbing taken to a next level, Deso being unable to counter and SFR trying to rebuild and stay alive after the damage inflicted by Anet inane decision …
…next week will be a rather boring matchup.
Let’s see how Deso can handle VS now without SFR standing in their way.
Sounds like Deso performance depends on SFR performance lul.. Don’t worry, we will have fun with or without you guys, gl on rebuilding though
I was trying to run in smaller groups and it brings a lot of refresh to the game. Unfortunately a lot of Viz players jumped on us 2 times when trying to take hills (sfr bl). We haven’t given up and 3rd time was success
Nice
Staff is good if you play good, but if you play bad then no wonder you get 1-2 shotted. Tanky D/D is easy mode and you see how many ppl choose it :P