Guild Wars 2

Yes I do know the difference between ping and download speed. I have a high download speed with a TERRIBLE ping. I can barely play this game because there’s a 700 ms delay between everything. :B I used to have a 93.3 kbps download speed with 100 ping. Game was very playable.

I’m pretty positive though that the FPS can reach as high as 60 FPS. A got two buddies who play the game sometimes on laptops with third generation i3 and i5 processors both sporting the HD 4000 and on auto detect (wich usually gives them medium settings,) their fps on the dual core processors with hyper threading are pushing kitten in most areas with the usual drops in wvw, cities, etc. That’s the laptop ivybridge, though. Desktop haswell should do somewhat better which is why I say my numbers haha.

loseridoit.2756:

OP. Are you sure you are using the discrete graphic card. Not the internal intel card?

Because it sound like a severe gpu bottleneck in your case

If you had taken the time to read the thread, you would have read over that he cleaned his laptop’s heatsink and it’s no longer overheating and throttling his processor.

On medium settings (auto detect but turn off reflections, can leave shadows on if you want,) you should get around pretty darn good FPS. Maybe 60 fps in a lot of places excluding wvw.

200 KBPS? Most likely have a ping lower than 200 or even lower than 150? I’m instantly jealous.

Dehuang.2053:

notice my FPS in LA, of course it’s still at lowest settings, but yesterday it was 15fps max, and now i’m running at 3ghz (weird tho, because it’s a 2.2ghz.. oh well)

an i5 and i7 processor will always run at it’s max turbo frequency depending on how many cores are being used which in your case is 3 GHz sa the i7 2670QM boosts to 3.2 GHz on single core turbo. quad turbo is 3 GHz. As long as turbo boost is enabled, it will do this.

In my experience coretemp lies about the CPU temps and my temperatures were at the most ten degrees lower than Core Temp’s post.

Check that you’re not playing in power save mode and are in high performance.

Flatley.1620:

And yet, a new GPU solved my FPS issues. And that’s odd to me; if the game is so CPU bound, why would a new GPU solve it?

Because your old GPU, a Radeon HD 5970, was a dual chip meaning it had crossfire always enabled. Some games perform like absolute crap with it enabled, and Guild Wars 2 is one of them.

The clock of your 8320 might be higher than the 955 but putting cor beside core, the 8320 is half as fast. It’s kindasorta like taking the 955 and cutting each core in half and then calling it an 8 core. For Guild Wars it’s total crap though because hurrdurr game runs like beta and so far nothing’s been done about it. I got tired of it and just bought an i7 4770K and saving for the board still. I get playable and enjoyable fps for what I do which does not include wvw or lots of world boss events anyway. AMD FX-8350 at 4.1 turboing and 7970 crossfire (disabled for gw2)

Pro tip: Turn off shadows and reflections.

The shelves are a bit bare because they removed idk all of the town clothes.

that might be because your laptop does not meet minimum requirements. You should play on the lowest settings.

sirsquishy.8531:

If you cant put 400~ into a new MB+CPU+Cooler for an Intel swap, I would just look into upgrading to a FX8350 and OC that to about 4.1Ghz (you can push more, but heat becomes an issue). That would be the most cost effective route.

FX-8350 runs at 4.1 full load turbo. OC-ing to even 5 GHz would get maybe 4 more frames. I hardly had any noticeable difference when I hit 4.7 GHz. Not worth wasting money for this CPU for this game specifically. Any game that actually uses it as well as software outside of this game, sure. But for Guild Wars 2? That’d be like shooting yourself in the leg and then entering a marathon.

On air cooling it should take 4.5 easily though. Heat’s not an issue for me granted I use an H100 on it.

locx.6412:

Broadwell (aka. the 5th gen i-series processors) that’s probably coming out next year will introduce a new chipset, the 9-series, instead of the 8-series Haswell brought. What this means is that although they both are 1150 Socket, those new Broadwell CPUs most likely won’t work on current motherboards. This means that a 1155 Socket mobo+CPU combo is just as dead as an upgrade to Haswell.

I personally disbelieve that it’s a waste to upgrade to Haswell unless it’s a couple months (2-3) until the new generation Broadwell comes out. It’s a long ways off anyway.

I went to Kessex Hills yesterday just to watch it. (And to listen to Terra Strong voice that quaggan. Not sure if it is Terra Strong voicing the quaggan but it sounds JUST LIKE HER.)

Keep your current processor and learn overclocking on it if it’s able to and you can keep it cooled.

I personally recommend leaving FXAA off. The further away you are from an object, the uglier and blurrier it looks with it on.

Server traffic does not effect game FPS.
Check that your CPU is running at 3.6 GHz while playing the game. Check that your graphics card is performing as it should be.

Only two generations of processors were made for the LGA 1155 chipset which include certain Intel Xeon products as well as Sandybridge and Ivybridge. Intel core is on Haswell now which is LGA 1150. It’s not necessarily a dead chipset just there’s no more CPUs being made for it. No more new ones anyway. You can still use it but you’d be better off getting the LGA 1150 socket.

your GPU is not ‘meant’ for PCIe 3.0. It’s just supported. In real world performance testing, there’s only a couple frames of difference. As for your CPU question, you’d want an i5 3570K. Or just an overclockable i5, period. 2500K, 2550K, 3570K, or 4670K. Then youd probably want to try and push it to 4.4 GHz to get the most out of it for guild wars 2 (keep in mind that even then you’d still see like uh, 20-30 fps.) AMD FX-8350 is horrible for wvw. I have one and ran around a lot with it. You can maybe gain a bit more performance if you jump to an i7 3770K or 4770K (can go with 2600K or 2700K too if you want. I hear there’s a bit more overclocking headroom but that’s two generations old)

But yes i5 3570K will fit your needs. If you’d be willing to you could get the 3770K for that additional 20 or 30% boost I hear people saying about. That’s if budget is nothing to worry about but eh it’s like 100 bucks more for it.

Traveller.7496:

I’m all for same-sex relationships in gaming, but here the level of subtlety is like hitting us in the head with a hammer. It’s purely meant as fanservice for gamers (=men).

Fan service or not, they still did it.

Glad to hear

Copy it via external hard drive? Network? 32 GB USB?

I don’t know. I don’t do WVW at all anymore. Given though that it’s an intel processor that runs at 3.2 GHz turboed on guild wars 2, I wouldn’t doubt that it would run much better than my AMD FX-8350 can do. The revamped Tequatl fight is like a gigantic zerg fight and it plays that well enough that it is not slideshow.

The only issue the graphics chip has is that whenever particle effects like Warrior’s Death From Above trait are in action, the spawned particles make the FPS tank slightly. If I could increase the shader speed I doubt this would be much of a problem.

TPiW.3710:

If your graphic card is an OC version, try set it to normal core and ram settings as it’s specified by it’s manufacturer. I’ve had the same problem and it helped me to maintain higher frame rates than it was OC’ed.
The same issue might happen when you have OC’ed CPU.

Good luck!

This is a good suggestion. Back in the days of Radeon HD 5000 series graphics chips, Radeon HD 5770 would refuse all overclocks. Juniper XT chips were very horrible on anything over a very VERY slight overclock. Even all the factory overclocked versions of the graphics card performed like crap until owners reduced frequency to original OEM spec. My Radeon HD 5770 was no different (even though it kicked the crap out of the 4870 so I wasn’t complaining! Haha)

The first thing I’d like to say is that you do not buy a laptop that you can upgrade a great deal. Those kinds of laptop units cost way too much money. The most you’ll do is upgrade something like the RAM or the internal storage after initial purchase. Before purchase you’ll get all those good customization options.

However looking at that there laptop, you’d get pretty top notch gaming out of it. World Versus World may be a slight pain if the battles are Tier 1 WVW massive but smallerlarge skirmishes won’t be much of a problem.

I’d have to say that the i7 4700MQ + Radeon HD 8970M is a good combo. Not the best but should be more than enough for Guild Wars 2. Given that the Radeon HD 8970M is AMD’s highest end mobile GPU chip, it would more than likely handle all of GW2’s visuals on highest settings. My Asus’ GTX 670MX does.

If anything, I’d look at the GTX 770M on that laptop too and see the price differences. I like that machine though. If it has to be a laptop I think the base specs of the i7 and the 8970M will be adequate. Otherwise, you could get a desktop that would be better performing than the laptop for the same price not including Windows.

knbBlackTemplar.3059:

Did you hear this dialogue? That was amazing.. And Marjory like it, huehuehuehue

LMAO omg I loved that part. It was so totally unexpected and I laughed a lot.
Thumbs up for ANet to be breaking such boundaries. Being brave.

I have an idea Superriki. Copy the installation from your girlfriend’s computer to your computer and then click the Gw2.exe and see if it opens.

PVStar.3658:

Of course it won, there’s was no competition in 2013 for MMOs.

There was Defiance. But that game is a joke though…

Those laptops actually do get fairly hot. A friend of mine has the same one but with a GT525M graphics chip in it. It was able to play guild wars 2 for prolonged periods of time but I’m surprised it’s even still alive considering how hot my friend let’s it get. He limits how much he takes care of it. The air intake vents are on the bottom like most other laptops but they are so small.

Is your GPU a GT 525M?

Thinking on this some more the only thing I could recommend is updating your GPU driver and possibly playing on auto detect settings.

make it so

please

maybe your GPU throttling itself or something. Happens sometimes in some games.

Feirlista is incorrectt on the FPS part. Intel HD 4000 will play this game on medium-low with good FPS as since the i5 will turbo to around 3.2. Since the game is CPU bound morethan graphically, it should run fine. The good FPS will stop around world versus world and large population centers.

The game should run on that laptop but I haven’t any idea why it would not. I have a friend with an Asus laptop and an Intel HD 4000 chip on an i3 and it plays no problem.

Oh good that gives me a lot of time to do it then. Thanks for the info!

So yeah my question is exactly the topic because I have been rather unable to do much of it because of my new craptastic internet and would like to know how long it will be staying.

To install the game with the disks, you insert disk one and then install and then insert disk 2 when requested. Then the game updates to latest version.

Fermi.2409:

@Avelos
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2mxLs

Comparable, and new.

I will applaud you for that. Only real difference I’m seeing though is a 1 TB instead of 2 TB but this is comparing new to open box

Enter your product key on your account on the website

I delete them whenever I get them now lmao. Post them for 8c and people will buy them in a week or so

sirsquishy.8531:

that computer is soo over priced for whats in it.

I’m sorry I had to stop reading the thread here and respond to this.

The linked computer is so UNDERPRICED compared to what it would be brand new and of the same parts. Sure it’s not an overclockable processor but if OP is not going to be doing that, then there’s no harm. It comes with the best selling GPU, a higher end i5 haswell and a 2 TB hard drive

I actually dare you to build something of the same performing specs for less.
Operating system included with purchase.

As far as I’m concerned, I would buy this PC because I don’t find any potentially bad pieces of hardware in it.

Not to mention, the low price on this unit, OP could buy an SSD if they so wanted to and pair it up with the HDD.

Festive hats

The only recommendation I can make is grabbing the new driver specifically made for all of the R7 and R9 cards (excluding 290 and 290X) and using that. Found on AMD website. I never install from the CDs anymore. Waste of time and almost always a year old. The cards are still new, only have one driver, and I doubt that it’s a defective card since I haven’t seen anyone report of good play with a new R7 or R9 chip on this game specifically.

Crossfire reduces performance slightly on this game but I think it likes SLI. If you’re powering something like a 7970 or better or a 670 or better then I think you’d be fine.

Much like the Mad King’s Outfit that I decided to make a thank you letter forum post, I wanted to make one for the Fancy Winter Outfit because I really wanted that too and I bought one as soon as I saw it. I really do like it a lot so, thank you, very much

May your Winter’s Day be happy and warm!

Sincerely, Avelos. (Again)

lmao. Well either way, glad to see your FPS is good. I’m waiting to buy a board for my i7 4770K here that I finally a few days ago so my FPS will go up too.

Aww. I would have wanted that 5970 had it still been alive.

That super computer is named Titan.
Fun fact: It’s powered by AMD processors.
It uses 18,688 AMD Opteron 6274 16-core CPUs,
and 18,688 Nvidia Tesla K20X GPUs.

Being realistic I think you’d need an intel i7 4960X clocked at 5.4 GHz with other respective parts to go with it to maintain 40+ FPS.

I think for WVW if you wanted 30 FPS in large conflict and on a laptop, you’d want a machine featuring an i7 3940XM or 4930XM or another Extreme Edition i7 processor from the Ivybridge and Haswell line because then you’d have the 3 GHz base clock and then the 3.7 GHz quad turbo, 3.8 dual and 3.9 single core turbo. Although some custom laptop builders offer overclocking on the Extreme Processors but the CPU alone starts at $1,049 dollars. I know Origin PC does this.

Mobile i7 processors clocked at 2.7 and 2.8 as well as 2.9 though could offer almost the same performance while being a third of the price tag.

But I doubt you’ll shell out the cash for a laptop with an Extreme Edition i7 when you could just get a desktop for similar or better performance for HMMM… $1,300, easily.

i5 2500K/2550K/3570K/4670K + overclock will do better for less.

The laptop CPUs I just described though before the i5 spot, that’s for people who want a desktop replacing laptop. Those kinds of machines would be armed with at least, SLI GTX 580M (GTX 675M), GTX 670MX SLI, 675MX SLI, 680M SLI, 770M SLI, and finally, 780M SLI, the fastest GPU solution on a mobile platform. Again though, these kinds of laptops cost a fortune and a half.

As far as I know, DX is just a graphics API and will do very little for CPU use. I’m probably wrong so don’t quote me on that.

Not to mention, I’d rather that programming went towards making the game run better instead of looking better. In my opinion, the game’s gorgeous enough as it is. Make it run better than beta as some people have told me it runs like. Run like beta for almost a year and a half, where brute forcing CPU for frames per second is the only way to get maximum enjoyment out of the game? That’s just wrong.

I don’t know how much of a performance increase I get with my 8350 compared to an 8120 but if you’re able to, I’d push it to 4 GHz and see what happens but other than that there’s not really much you can do unless you wanted to shell out the cash for an i5.